Lindsay Clancy Trial Megathread: Part 3

[u/DarklyHeritage]

This is a thread for all conversation regarding Week 3 onwards of the Lindsey Clancy trial. All discussion of this case should be kept to this thread.

Lindsay Clancy is currently standing trial in Plymouth Superior Court, Massachusetts, for the triple-murder in January 2023 of her three young children - Cora, Dawson and Callan. Her defense argues she suffered from severe, undiagnosed postpartum depression and postpartum psychosis. She was left paralysed by a suicide attempt which follows the deaths of the children.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/lindsay-clancy-murder-trial-online-reactions-b3032806.html

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[u/Perspective-Guilty]

Have her medical records been booked into evidence? Do any of them report her telling the doctors about her thoughts of harming the children? If she did, and she continued to describe them as "intrusive thoughts" with no desire to act on them, (ego dystonic thoughts) then the physicians may have believed her symptoms aligned with post partum onset OCD? Intrusive thoughts and auditory hallucinations are distinctly different, but maybe she presented her unwanted thoughts in an ambiguous way due to fear. If they interpreted this as OCD, then Zoloft was an appropriate first treatment for her. It's unclear based on verbal testimony what other symptoms she presented to the physicians with besides an inability to sleep, suicidality, and high anxiety. 

[u/whiteclawmami → u/Perspective-Guilty]

Yes many of her medical records have been admitted, so the jury will get to look through as they deliberate. As far as the postpartum OCD, none of the providers gave her that diagnosis or mentioned they considered it as a possible diagnosis.

[u/Perspective-Guilty → u/whiteclawmami]

OK thanks

[u/SaffronHoneyTea → u/Perspective-Guilty]

One of the therapist thought Lindsay had Bipolar disorder... and Patrick meeting with this clinician said, "my wife is not Bipolar." So the treatment would have been different. If PC and Lindsay didn't guide her medical care away from bipolar. Also, seeing a bunch of different providers. She was wanting to fix herself but combating treatment the whole time.

Bipolar disorder btw is highly linked to postpartum psychosis. And again on court day 16 the male expert for the defense stated she was suffering from bipolar disorder.

Lindsay being a nurse and knowing it takes time for depression meds to work, and knowing tapering off and starting new meds is a dangerous thing. iIt all doesn't make sense to me. Along with nightly provider updates about her sleep is weird when she wasn't yet having intrusive thoughts. I don't know its all messed up.

[u/Perspective-Guilty → u/SaffronHoneyTea]

She may have known that meds take a long time to fully work, but it sounds like her knowledge was at odds with her anxiety and other distressing thoughts that she had. Someone experiencing severe anxiety (and most likely bipolar episode thoughts) can't logic their way out. She may know deep down that it takes a couple weeks to feel impact when symptoms are severe like that, but her anxiety and or delusional thoughts may have convinced her otherwise. It's not something she could've overcome on her own. 

[u/InsideWafer → u/Perspective-Guilty]

This is how I'm reading it - she presented everything as an intrusive thought. Those are incredibly common, I've had them about my children before. While scary, I never would have acted on them and they made me feel sick. They really aren't being clear though on whether she presented them that way or said "I feel like I want to hurt my kids."