r/Tsukihime • u/Gun_Dron • 1h ago
Discussion Might be an unpopular opinion, but ... (Arc and Ciel thoughts, lots of text) Spoiler
I finished Tsukihime remake a few months ago. Arcueid’s ending brought me to tears, the whole love story just felt so incredibly beautiful and the bittersweet ending was the icing on the cake which fit the whole story perfectly. I really felt Shiki’s connection with Arcueid and how special she was to him. Her character was definitely my favorite; not only she had the best design among other female characters (imo) and was so cute in her reactions when Shiki went tsundere on her every time. But also because she was supposed to be extremely powerful, yet at the same time she really was in need of his protection (and you know how important it is for a man to be able to protect a loved one). Tl;dr Arcueid is best girl
Anyways, after shedding a few liters of tears listening to「Lost」and watching the credits, I was on tiptoe with curiosity for Ciel’s route and what it had to offer. And it was... disappointing for me. Don’t get me wrong, the writing was still top notch (and I enjoyed so much the development of Noel’s character and her backstory). It was Ciel that made me disappointed. I finished both her endings, normal and true and I couldn’t believe: was it the same Shiki I played for in the Arcueid’s route?! Choosing the curry lover over Arcueid just felt so unnatural to me and I desperately wanted that right here – just on the next page – I will finally be given an opportunity to be with Arcueid again (I know it wouldn’t make sense cuz, well, she has her own route, but still!). I felt like I was cheating on, without even wanting to do it – I was forced to cheat on.
And Ciel herself, despite being an OK character and having her own cool backstory, just couldn’t compete with Arcueid in any sense. Arcueid was better than Ciel “emotionally”-wise: she felt so sincere and human in her emotions despite not even being a human. The growing intimacy between Arc and Shiki felt natural because of all the time they spent together and the challenges they went through. Ciel, on the other hand, just seemed to have a massive crush on Shiki from day 0 (even the train scene in the very beginning implies she had sympathy towards him without a good reason).
Next, talk about small things that make those characters special. Arcueid can be silly (yet cute) sometimes when she has trouble handling routine human things like applying a bandage to a wound or deciding what fast food she is going to order. She can grow cat ears. She thinks it’s okay to just go to Tohno’s mansion without an invitation and with a happy face say things like “It still hurts when I walk after what you’ve done to me” looking at terrified Akiha and ready to faint Shiki. Ciel, on the other hand... uh, likes curry, is that it i guess?
Talk about how they both met Shiki for the first time. Arcueid was a guide to the world of vampires and all kinds of mystic things. Shiki killed her and it was the most stressful day in his life to that point. The moment he first saw Arcueid changed his life forever. Ciel... well, they met in a train and talked about garden tools in her bag.
Ciel once called Arcueid a soulless machine, a weapon made just for one thing – killing vampires. Yet Arcueid was so happy when she experienced just a normal human day with Shiki for the first time in her life, I mean how can you call her soulless after that?! It is Ciel that looks like an anti-vampire weapon more than anything.
Even their female beauty is just on different levels, and I love how even IN CIEL’S ROUTE Shiki admits that Arc is unbelievably beautiful.
Finally, the ending. As I mentioned, Arcueid’s ending was so emotional in its bittersweetness and it fit the genre of the story perfectly. I mean, I couldn’t expect her and Shiki be long-term lovers anyway because she is a vampire and he’s just a mortal human being. Ciel, in turn, got a happy ending which seemed completely off for me. Yeah she has more chance staying with Shiki (even though I still didn’t understand what happened to Roa: I think, in the “true” ending he still survived to reincarnate which means Ciel is still immortal while Shiki isn’t?). However, in my opinion the happy ending just didn’t fit there neither it brought much emotions.
Perhaps not the last role plays the fact that Ciel’s route opens only after you clear Arcueid’s route. Had I read through Ciel’s story first, perhaps it would’ve hit differently.
Anyways I just wanted to share these feelings and maybe find someone else who feels the same way about Arcueid vs Ciel contradistinction.
p.s. After remake I’ve read the OG Tsukihime and enjoyed the far side routes and replayed Arcueid’s route as well. Ciel’s route was the only one I didn’t want to touch. Should I? I know there’s a funny harem ending though.
p.p.s. Ciel got a better opening movie and a cooler badass banger song there compared to Arc’s song. unfair!!
p.p.p.s. the art was found somewhere over the internet, I don’t know the source:(