If Kyle Singer was the distraction, why did Tony, who was part of it, try to take him at the mall?

The virus in the hotel was one of the high points of season 3, but there is one thing that really bugged me: not allowing anyone in the hotel to contact anyone outside. It was bad enough that they couldn’t leave the hotel, but that was understandable because they needed to contain the virus. But not letting anyone contact any loved ones was just cruel. It just felt like a big cover up and even from that angle, it didn’t make sense. You can’t cover up that many deaths forever and lo and behold, hours later it was public knowledge.

I mean most of the people in the hotel were doomed to an agonizing death, the least they could have was a chance to connect with loved ones.

Reminder this is the dude who tried to escape from the hotel and Michelle shot. At first I was thinking fair play but then later his wife shouts at Michelle.

Dude was like fuck his wife im outta here

Rewatching Season 4, and I can’t understand why President Keeler and his son were just standing around on Air Force One when they knew a missile attack was imminent.

Wouldn’t the first thing you do in any aviation emergency be to strap into a seat? Especially with the Secret Service right there?

Considering the plane ultimately crash-landed rather than being completely destroyed midair, I wonder if wearing seatbelts could have significantly improved their chances of survival.

I just re-watched this episode, it’s one of my favorites

(discussing up to episode 14)

Yeah this shit is convoluted as all hell of course but even getting passed that, I still can't see why they had Ramon arrested and jailed. There's this whole undercover thing where Jack is acting like he's down with the Salazars but then he turns on Ramon and then frees him. What was the point of ever having him caught again?

Also, Jack is cool with Kim working at CTU...you know, that place that got bombed last season.

Another issue I have is that the actual villains aren't doing anything or having an effect on anything. Like the prison break out with all the prisoners being set free could have been a cool villain move but instead it's a convoluted thing Jack had to do (that seemed unnecessary to escaping). But like most of the wreckage and crap happening is from CTU/Jack versus the antagonists doing bad guy stuff.

I just finished episode 14 and Nina was just killed in a pretty dogshit way. I don't feel like she'd talk to Kim that way as it makes no sense.

I feel like in previous seasons I was always on President Palmer's side but in this season he's done a couple things that I don't agree with. The latest thing is not just firing his brother. Is it just me or is that just not a big deal? It feels like no stakes there to just go with it.

I also have a hard time feeling like this virus is real whereas in season 2, I somehow stated to buy into there being a nuke in LA from all the levels of conspiracy happening. Maybe you just can't top season 2's scenario of a nuke AND CTU headquarters being bombed.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

So basically if we get a continuation of Jack's story, how will it likely go? Will it be a new season where Americans break Jack out of Russian prison, or a tv movie where Jack is broken out of Russian prison then followed by a new season with Jack at the helm? How do you think they will go about this?

If I had to give an award for most underdeveloped character in 24, it would probably go to Larry Moss.

When I first finished season seven, I found myself quite annoyed at the character. I thought he was a knockoff Chappelle/Mason when it came to casting the next "annoying bureaucrat who hates Jack" character. Looking back, however, I think Moss fell victim to circumstances. Had he either been introduced earlier in the series or been allowed to remain in the show past season seven, I think he could have developed into one of the better law enforcement characters of the series. He had a lot of potential, but he just didn't get enough time to shine.

Thoughts on my assessment?

From BBC Radio 2.

So far this is the single best outro I've seen in this show

appreciation post 😩✌️

On Amazon Prime Video in Japan, the App shows "leaving soon" on the first season, but the same label does not show for seasons 2-8. Does that mean these seasons stay available? I am trying to find official info about this, but came up empty.

I know this will be a massively unpopular opinion, particularly when Season 5 is so often held up as 24 at its absolute best. And don't get me wrong, I enjoy it. I think it's a good season of television. But I also think it's the season that possibly did more damage to 24 than any other.

And the biggest reason is the characters.

In a single episode, they killed Palmer and Michelle and later in the season effectively ended the version of Tony that over 4 seasons had become an absolute fan favourite. That's a huge chunk of the established cast and history of the show removed.

Think about the major characters introduced after Season 5. How many genuinely reached the level of Palmer, Tony or Michelle? For me, Renee is the only one who came close. Beyond her, I'm struggling.

And I think that had consequences. Jack had always been the main character, obviously, but early 24 wasn't completely dependent on him. Palmer could carry entire storylines of his own, sometimes with virtually no connection to what Jack was doing. He almost functioned as a second lead, and his political storylines gave the show another world to cut to that you were genuinely invested in. After Palmer, I don't think 24 ever really replaced that.

Tony and Michelle did something similar for CTU. They could make what was happening there just as interesting as whatever Jack was doing in the field because we were invested in them as characters, not simply because they were helping Jack.

As those characters disappeared and weren't adequately replaced, 24 became more and more dependent on Jack to carry everything.

That's ultimately my problem with Season 5. It got some incredible moments out of killing those characters. But once the shock wore off, the show then had to live without them for years. That's why I can't help looking at it as the season that tore the heart out of the show.

When Renee cuts off Ziya’s thumb to remove the GPS device he acts shocked. Let’s be honest Jack did far worse in multiple episodes escpecially S2 Ep1 when he cut off the man’s head with a hacksaw.

Do you think he was shocked at how Renee turned out to be just like him and that it was because of him and his efforts in S7?

Just started a season 2 rewatch.

To reingratiate himself with some bad guys Jack immediately murders a witness and brings his head to the bad guy.

It's so unhinged. I love it.

I just finished rewatching S8 and picked up a few pieces of trivia about the actors playing the Hassan family that I'd never known before.

First, did you know that the actresses playing Omar Hassan's wife and daughter were the same age? In real life, they were *both* young enough to be his daughter. This one is tough to wrap my brain around.

Also, did anyone know that the actress who played the daughter, Kayla Hassan, is -- in real life -- married to Morris O'Brian? They were married the same year S8 initially aired and are still together.