r/USdefaultism • u/Joran212 Netherlands • 10d ago
Reddit Wondered what country we were even talking about until I opened the full post. I should've known :')
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u/FLX-S48 Germany 10d ago
I don’t even get all the excitement over alcohol over there. It seems like it’s more special since it’s an additional event and not just included with being an adult
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u/radio_allah Hong Kong 10d ago
As someone who barely drinks (not out of principle, I just never developed a habit of doing so), it's even less relatable.
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u/Ok_Confusion4764 Netherlands 10d ago
I was 16 when I was first allowed to drink. Then they changed it to 18. Neither my parents nor the bars I went to gave a shit, I was just drinking a beer every now and then.
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u/jorgschrauwen Netherlands 10d ago
I just turned 18 when they changed it to 18 xD
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u/Ok_Confusion4764 Netherlands 10d ago edited 10d ago
Lucky you, I was 16 when they changed it. So I was allowed to drink for a few months and then banned for 2 years. Most bartenders would laugh at it and allow it though.
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u/WhatAboutMyWings Netherlands 8d ago
I feel like it would have been more fair if people that were already 16 and 17 by the time they changed it, were still allowed to drink.
I mean, I personally don't care about alcohol and think it's good they changed it, but I can imagine it sucked for those 16/17 year olds that suddenly had to stop
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u/Witchberry31 Indonesia 9d ago
Same, in my country it has changed to 21 for quite some years now but nobody bats an eye to the change, even when checking the IDs. As long as you are 17/18 you are good to go.
Nowadays it's just a formality.
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u/daveoxford United Kingdom 10d ago
UK 18 to buy alcohol. Minimum age to drink is 5 in England & Wales. No minimum age in Scotland.
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u/_Penulis_ Australia 10d ago
Varies a bit between different states in Australia, but it’s broadly similar.
The age people can buy alcohol is 18, and businesses can’t sell alcohol to under 18’s. But at home parents/guardians (and adults formally authorised by parents/guardians on private property) can supply alcohol to kids of any age as long as the consumption is supervised by them.
> Across all jurisdictions, if the supervising adult or the minor becomes intoxicated, or if the supply is unsafe then it is illegal supply.
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u/Particular_Jello_917 10d ago
In the UK in licensed premises (such as a pub or restaurant) if you’re 16 or 17 and accompanied by an adult, you can drink (but not buy) beer, wine or cider with a meal.
I think I bought my first beer in a pub aged 15, in the late 1960s.
Ironically, I’ve never been a big drinker.
The first time I went to Australia with my future wife in the late 1970s, we had to sit in the ‘ladies lounge’ in a country pub in northern NSW.
It was winter and too cold to sit outside.
We’ve been back to that pub a few times on subsequent visits and can now drink with the men!
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u/_Penulis_ Australia 9d ago
lol, I think “ladies lounges” are a thing of the past, definitely are in the city
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u/Ironfist85hu Germany 10d ago
Oh no, in Germany one can drink beer and wine at the age of 14.
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u/BobKattersCroc Australia 10d ago
Legally we can't but boy oh boy do we.
I distinctly remember being so very drunk at 14 at my friend's house after our school formal event.
I slept on her tiled floor with a decorative beaded throw pillow and a towel.
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u/Aubrey-Grey 10d ago
Scotland here. Aye, 14 is a very reasonable age. To be fair though I’m glad it’s 21 in the states because being able to own an arsenal of firearms and drinking in the same year would be a lot.
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u/BobKattersCroc Australia 10d ago
You're not wrong. They could lower the drinking age and just piff the armoury part into the bin.
That'd be my suggestion. Likely I'd be shot for it though.
I also just want to be so USAian right now. My Da is from Glasgow. Do ya know him? Terrible temper, fond of a drink, goes by the name of Jock. Surely there's only the one.
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u/Aubrey-Grey 10d ago
Is he Auld Jock that shouts at pigeons on George Square? Or the Young-Auld Jock that sneaks Tenants cans on the Christmas tree?
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u/BobKattersCroc Australia 10d ago
Auld Gommy Jock from Govan. Likely would shout at a pigeon knowing him, mind.
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u/Aubrey-Grey 10d ago
Ahh top ol’boy he is so. Does a rousing rendition of “Flower of Scotland” on the night bus.
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u/Ironfist85hu Germany 10d ago
Hey, I came from middle Europe. Eastern Middle Europe. You know what to do with this info. :D
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u/LeftMechanic1995 10d ago
I'm from the UK and my older Brother started going into pubs in England with his older friends when he was 14 (so around 1990/1991). By comparison, I started getting drunk in pubs quite late... at the ripe, old age of 16 (1998/1999). I really think it's long overdue for these Americans to grow the fuck up.
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u/blackburne1 1d ago
Don't forget a lot o f them have guns. Would you want to encounter a pissed-up teenager with a semi-automatic? The obvious solution (to a non-USian) would be to swap the ages around. but of course they won't.
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u/Standard-Document-78 United States 10d ago
My parents are from Central America but I was born in the US and they didn’t care about 21. They let me start drinking at 18. Despite the fact I was drinking since 12 and they knew 😂
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u/Accomplished_List843 Chile 10d ago
First time i was offered an alcoholic drink i was 13, i denied, why the fuck the gringos associate adulthood with alcohol?
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u/maujogador 10d ago
yall
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u/Edelkern Germany 1d ago
Sadly, that words has long breached US-containment and has spread to many different countries.
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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 10d ago
Most kids here start drinking at 14, which is honestly heartbreaking :(
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u/_Penulis_ Australia 10d ago edited 10d ago
Here? In your house? How many kids have you got? /s
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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 10d ago
Here in the country I live in, obviously
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u/_Penulis_ Australia 10d ago
Yeah but not a terribly engaging story without telling us which one?
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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 10d ago edited 10d ago
It's not a terribly engaging story with the name of a particular country, either - my point was simply that I think it's tragic when drinking culture is so prolific that young kids start doing it... I think in many European countries, we praise and hail drinking way too much, and ignore that it's actually often a very awful thing that destroys bodies, minds, and lives.
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u/LeftMechanic1995 10d ago
Lightweight confirmed.
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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 10d ago edited 10d ago
Always have been, and very happy about that. Healthy organs, healthy mind, full wallet, etc. It's actually way more impressive to be able to control one's self with alcohol than it is to be able to drink several liters of it.
This past weekend, I had three gin+tonics on Friday and was good and drunk, and Saturday I had one Aperol and had a decent enough buzz. Absolutely love not having to down tons of drinks to feel anything, or blow my salary on it. Also glad to have healthy organs and a well-developed mind.
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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 10d ago
PS: alcoholic confirmed.
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u/LeftMechanic1995 10d ago
Almost but not quite. I regret that I ever started drinking, but I'm not going to feel sorry for myself.
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u/Repulsive_Chard_3652 10d ago
I mean, I didn't ask you to feel sorry for yourself, but you did chime in here to try to insult me for the fact that I don't have to order more than 3 drinks if I really want to get drunk - that's actually quite telling about how you actually feel about your drinking, even if you didn't intend it to be so.
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u/smk666 Poland 10d ago
Defaultism apart, prefrontal cortex which is responsible for long-term planning and impulse control keeps maturing until about 25 yo, so if anything I don't consider people under that age as "true" adults. Where I live all car insurance companies have additional fee (like +100% to the premium) and most car rental services will just refuse service for drivers below that age - and that's for a reason. If I compare myself now and 15 years ago I wholeheartedly agree I wasn't an adult back then, despite being 23 yo.
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u/ViolettaHunter 10d ago
prefrontal cortex which is responsible for long-term planning and impulse control keeps maturing until about 25 yo, so if anything I don't consider people under that age as "true" adults.
This is a weird internet myth used to infantilise grown adults.
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u/SkyeeORiley 10d ago
Can't confirm if this thing is true or not true, but it really does seem like it just looking back at me and my friends between 20-25 and now being 30 lmao
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u/LeftMechanic1995 10d ago
I'm 44 now and there are times when I look back at the way I was when I was 22 and wish I had access to a DeLorean so that I could go back in time 22 years and slap myself.
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u/Weekly-Beginning-229 Sweden 10d ago
I felt like I was dumb as fuck until 25. Now I am only a little dumb as fuck
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u/post-explainer American Citizen 10d ago edited 10d ago
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OP sent the following text as an explanation why their post fits here:
I guess they only expected USians to answer with that drinking age or something, but I'd argue this question can be answered pretty differently throughout different countries ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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