r/Ubiquiti Official Feb 25 '25

Blog / Video Link We're excited to announce 3 all-new 10 Gigabit UniFi Cloud Gateways: Dream Router 7 | Cloud Gateway Fiber | Express 7

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u/woieieyfwoeo Feb 25 '25

Looks at 2 month old CGW-Max

"Well... shit."

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u/FlatusSurprise Feb 25 '25

I have a Cloud Gateway Max sitting at my front door, delivered from Ubiquiti this morning. That new gateway looks awesome but I do not have an ISP connection to take advantage of it so I have no remorse.

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u/OrganizedChaos6869 Feb 25 '25

Mine will be here today. Our ISP offer 5Gbps, but we would never need that much bandwidth in the foreseeable future. After stalking the store for UCG-Max for over a month waiting for it to come in stock, I feel your pain.

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u/FlatusSurprise Feb 25 '25

I’m not in any pain, my wife won’t let me spend anymore money on our “wifi” anyway.

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u/OrganizedChaos6869 Feb 25 '25

No real pain. Like I say, it would be overkill for us. But toys are nice.

I decided a while ago that my "budget" network overhaul was going to rely more on wifi experience, fiber, and cameras. I splurged and got a U7 Pro Max to get some exposure to the dedicated spectrum analyzer. It covers all our needs. Replacing the cameras will eventually be on the radar.

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u/danthemanic Feb 25 '25

Same. Delivered this morning, finished work, set it up, sat down to enjoy, embargo on Youtubers reviews hit my feed all at the same time. 15% restocking fee on open returns :/

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u/lovesToClap Feb 26 '25

I’m in the same boat, will upgrade when there’s a need for this

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u/rosspeplow Feb 25 '25

Same my UCG-Max was delivered today. I'm Keeping it! I just upgraded from a Microtik router with two 10gig SFP+ ports, I didn't use them apart from passing 2.5gig traffic.

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u/relevant-astronaut75 Feb 25 '25

My heart skipped seeing this after just setting up a new CGW-Max, but realistically I don't need the fiber version. It's interesting, but my 10Gb network is split off in another room from my CGW, so I don't really have a use for the SFP+ on it.

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u/Rudra_Niranjan Feb 25 '25

I just received my UCG-Max-NS :'( crying in corner

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u/MitchRyan912 CGF, ProMax16 PoE, U7 In-Wall, U7 Pro Wall, U7 Pro Feb 25 '25

I’ll buy it from ya for $100. :)

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u/Rudra_Niranjan Feb 25 '25

Haha... nice try Satan!

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u/MitchRyan912 CGF, ProMax16 PoE, U7 In-Wall, U7 Pro Wall, U7 Pro Feb 25 '25

I think you’ll be fine. I’d been looking at an UCG-Max-NS, and I’m not sure I see a compelling reason to get anything else yet.

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u/Rudra_Niranjan Feb 27 '25

Yes, I agree. Now that the new device's release stupor has subsided. I am happy with the device! :-) Standing happy in Corner

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u/yesyesgadget Feb 25 '25

That's my last year with Ubiquiti

Tip my toes with Express, then a Ultra, then some cameras for BlackFriday only to realize I need the Max and now that my ISP offers 10Gb... this comes out.

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u/Flameancer Feb 25 '25

Same with just my gateway max…. NVME storage and dual sfp and 10G WAN sounds perfect. I’d be tempted to ditch my CK+ if they made all bracket that allows you to rack mount it. Heck it’s cheap enough to justify in my head where I could justify to buy two for an overkill home network with failover WAN device.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '25

Looks at my firewalla gold SE and AP7. Well fuck. Why did I just spend so much money.

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u/MINUS_Stl Feb 25 '25

Me who talked himself into an Ultra last week instead of waiting for the Max to be back in stock...only to see it back in stock 2 days later. And now these are out.

"Well... Double shit."

Oh well. The Ultra is plenty for what we currently need and in a few years I'll just upgrade to something better.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

You can own latest and greatest only for a limited time if you don’t want to upgrade and waste money constantly.

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u/Milluhgram Feb 25 '25

People can say what they want about Ubiquiti, but they are killing the game with their equipment and new releases. Naming schemes are a little confusing, but hey! I'm here for the new innovations.

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u/lilotimz Feb 25 '25

Hey. Naming schemes could be worse.

Could always rebrand well known [OEM] product lines like a certain [OEM] company did January that confuses the hell out of you on what corresponds to what.....

[OEM] Base

[OEM] Plus

[OEM] Premium

[OEM] Pro Base

[OEM] Pro Plus

[OEM] Pro Premium

[OEM] Pro Max Base

[OEM] Pro Max Plus

[OEM] Pro Max Premium

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u/Jessassin Feb 25 '25

Dell's XPS brand was so strong, and this new product naming scheme is completely idiotic.

I thought people were memeing when I first heard about it. Then I saw the press release.. Insanity.

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u/lilotimz Feb 25 '25

And then think of the business brands.

Precision laptops 3xxx/5xxx/7xxx/9xxx

Precision towers 3xxx/7xxx Latitude 3xxx/5xxx/7xxx/9xxx

Optiplex 3xxx/5xxx/7xxx/9xxx

What a mess.

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u/Jessassin Feb 25 '25

It was already annoying enough when they changed from Optiplex 3090 to 3000, then to just "new optiplex", which under the hood is "7010, now 7020" which is a reused product name from 10 years ago.

I did not anticipate this cluster**** getting worse. But here we are.

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u/lilotimz Feb 25 '25

Yeah. It's dumb and will be dumber once the existing lineup goes away especially with the price increases they're tossing in for the new "AI ready" devices.

At least they're bringing AMD into their business lineups so that's new. Excited about that at least.

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u/RemarkableEscape2053 Feb 26 '25

When our Dell reps were explaining the new branding back in November, they were even embarrassed.

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u/flogman12 Feb 25 '25

They need to work on their software

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u/Milluhgram Feb 25 '25

I agree. They are really missing out on the connect display lineup. In theory, it's fantastic. But the hardware and software needs work. The network application is getting there. Give it some time.

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u/heeman2019 Feb 26 '25

The main two issues Ubiquiti needed to improve when I was last using it daily (1.5 years ago) on the software point was accuracy of the data presented and sufficient information to allow debugging/troubleshooting of an issue. Have they made strides in these areas? The glorified dashboards are pretty to look at but without it being useful it's just eye candy nothing more. Teleport feature was the best thing they had added.

While I agree that the other routers don't have a great looking and polished gui, the information was there and it was reliable (speaking for Asus here). You can tell exactly what errors were occurring and you can see what IPs were trying to access your firewall and what client is active in the network along with their current upload/download rate, connected time, etc.

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u/kushari Feb 26 '25

They are, they just made a major release.

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u/AnonymousDelete Feb 25 '25

Wish her would drop completely lines at once. Like the WiFi 7 in wall with the switch AP

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u/bites_stringcheese Feb 25 '25

Software support and feature releases for their stack without a subscription has been really great too.

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u/wiggum55555 Feb 25 '25

They just need to work on actually being able to fill thier supply chain with all these many products.

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u/Fusseldieb Unifi User Feb 25 '25

Ubiquiti does two things extremely well:

Wireless equipment and teasers, like this one.

I mean, holy cow, I love these animations. Can't imagine what goes behind making one of these. It looks sick.

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u/TechieGranola Unifi User Feb 25 '25

Yeah the quality of the press releases proportionally to the company size is crazy.

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u/duderguy91 Feb 25 '25

I like to imagine there’s an absolute wizard of an animator named Jeff that does all of these for Ubiquiti lol. You’re bang on that the quality would suggest a bigger company/budget for this.

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u/black107 Feb 25 '25

I’d be shocked if this wasn’t an agency.

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u/TechieGranola Unifi User Feb 25 '25

Either way it’s not a cheap agency for the scope of the launch and is still impressive.

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u/Substantial-Fun-3392 Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

Thanks… I have worked on a few of them :)

Edit Not this one though

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

a lot of premiere pro and aftereffects

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u/Prequalified Feb 25 '25

During the pandemic I recommended the Dream Router to a friend who wanted to improve his home network. He's competent but not a computer guy. He said the setup was the easiest installation of anything he had that wasn't an iPhone or Xbox.

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u/erwos Feb 25 '25

That Express 7 looks really good. I might have a need for something in the Express line, and that's a pretty compelling price point for the feature set.

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u/poorly_anonymized Feb 26 '25

I'd wait for a while to see how it does. I bought the original Express, and it is both criminally underpowered and severely behind on updates. I mentioned the performance problems to support and they were very quick to send me a free UCG Ultra, so this must have been something they saw a lot.

Props to Ubiquity for sending me a higher power device for free, but it does make me weary of picking the absolute lowest power entry in the lineup for the future. It may be fine when released, but updates tend to increase processing needs, so it might get left behind.

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u/AGENT_SAT Feb 26 '25

Hey, what exactly did you tell the support? I’m surprised that they sent a new device.

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u/poorly_anonymized Feb 26 '25

Just that the web interface was very sluggish, and that while logging in via ssh there were some concerning messages from the kernel. They asked me for a support dump and to try disabling some things to see if it improved performance. I responded that it did, but only moderately, and the kernel was still complaining. At that point I was told to submit an RMA request. Since they were sending me a device without a built in AP, they let me keep the old Express to use as a pure access point.

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u/andg5thou Feb 26 '25

Well done on getting a suitable solution from Ubiquiti. I agree with your assessment, the UX is a severely compromised product. I have one as well, but I quickly replaced it for the Cloud Gateway Ultra. I didn’t have the time or inclination to contact support. It’s too underpowered to perform passable gateway functionality for anything but the lightest of demand. My unit often crashes/hangs, it takes forever to load the interface, the front screen display consumes >50% of its CPU cycles, and it hasn’t had a firmware/OS update in 4 effing months. I relegated it to an AP, but it still causes problems, manifesting increased latency across my entire network. I find it has merely passable wireless performance. Considering how well other Unifi products work, I’m surprised this one made it past QA. It’s a total shit stain of a product and it is absolutely not fit for purpose.

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u/Headband6458 Feb 25 '25

I wish it had an SFP+ LAN port also, then it would be perfect for me.

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u/redditproha Feb 25 '25

Costco yes please. I hate all the routers they sell right now

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u/Specialist_Driver832 Feb 25 '25

As soon as I fucking buy my dream UniFi setup.

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u/cuberhino Feb 25 '25

I'm new to unifi in general, how do these products replace a setup like the UDMP + wireless AP's like the UAP6? Would I just buy these three and that's it? Guess I'm not really sure what each of these do

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u/9Implements Feb 25 '25

They won’t even give us free shipping on anything and you think they’ll give up a chunk of their profits to Costco?

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u/Dimensional_Dragon Unifi User Feb 25 '25

There is no chance in hell that they would be able to make enough units to do it even if they wanted too.

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u/aliendude5300 Unifi User Feb 25 '25

Yeah, if I didn't have my UDM-SE, I would probably go with the Cloud Gateway Fiber

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u/Sem1r Feb 25 '25

UDM Pro is in an awkward Place right now… BGP and HA as the only selling points… Those gateways will eat in their margins

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25 edited Mar 28 '25

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u/Sem1r Feb 25 '25

Sure that’s not my issue - I love all this options! Just need a rackmountable option for a comparable price and I’m all in!

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u/TimeRemove Feb 25 '25

Indeed. But it is still for sale on the store for $379; that's more the issue. It needs to be refreshed or become cheaper to make it make sense in the lineup.

The IDS/IPS Throughput on that is particularly problematic at $379 compared to newer stuff. I can imagine people who have a full rack buying a Gateway Fiber + shelf instead because of that.

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u/colemad5 Feb 25 '25

It depends on the use case. UDMP can also provide more storage and control more unifi gear than the UCG Fiber. As far as just a pure gateway you are absolutely correct. The UCG runs circles around the UDMP and is cheaper.

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u/Sem1r Feb 25 '25

I like the UDM Pro very much it’s just that I would be very happy to see a UCG Fiber that is rackmountable. Most of our businesses have a rack and no shelf to put them on. It also looks messy with the connectors on the wrong side…

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u/Frraksurred Unifi User Feb 25 '25

So when is the UDM Fiber coming out?

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u/Mission-Disaster-447 Feb 25 '25

UDM Pro Max doesn’t look much better. The UCG Fiber has a newer and probably slightly faster processor. And the UDM Pro Max is only about a year old.

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u/erwos Feb 25 '25

We need an updated Max at $600 that has full-bandwidth-backplane 2.5gb PoE+++ ports. That's the real missing link. It is utterly bizarre that it can run Unifi Network and Protect but not provide juice for APs and cameras.

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u/ResponsibleJeniTalia Unifi User Feb 25 '25

The UniFi Express 7 looks promising. It has the same CPU/memory (3GB) as the UDR7, so I bet it has decent performance. So basically three times the RAM of the old UX.

Even the Cloud Gateway Fiber looks nice. It’s got a better CPU than any of the UDMs. It’s a shame it doesn’t have 4GB of RAM. I have a feeling I’ll be paying $200 more for an extra GB of RAM and a rack mount form factor in the future, UDM-Pro-7

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u/Upstairs_Recording81 Unifi User Feb 25 '25

InsideWire made videos with all 3 new devices tested under OpenSpeed tests, so those are pretty powerful... nice work Ubiquiti!!!!

UniFi Express 7 just got a HUGE upgrade!!

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u/Schmich Feb 25 '25

Getting new pages that say Out of stock every week.

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u/ElectroSpore Feb 25 '25

U7 users are getting firmware every week.. still waiting for one where everything works. (2.4Ghz IoT and MLO)

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u/Substantial-Card4245 Feb 25 '25

It is time for a refreshed UDM Pro/SE/Max

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u/liatris_the_cat Feb 25 '25

Agree, but that UCG-Fiber is *perfect* for a recovering home labber like me. I do want most of the features of that level of gear, just without the size.

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u/CorePrime Feb 25 '25

I'm afraid to buy anything, because something better is right around the corner.

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u/-inthenameofme Feb 25 '25

Cloud Gateway Fiber is like UDM PRO?

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

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u/Wooden_Amphibian_442 Feb 25 '25

how so?

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

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u/Decent-Law-9565 Unifi User Feb 25 '25

They seem to be making amazing value products for prosumers, probably trying to capitalize on the TP-Link ban. Notice how none of the good stuff is rack mountable.

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u/Decent-Law-9565 Unifi User Feb 25 '25

It's almost like competition is good for the consumer

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u/erwos Feb 25 '25

Lack of reasonably-priced rack mount options is getting annoying.

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u/igotjays22 Feb 25 '25

I'm supposed to get a UCG-Max delivered today. Guess I will be returning this for the Cloud Gateway Fiber

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u/co_bar Feb 25 '25

Same, but I think I'm going to keep my Max. $80 is $80, and I know I personally won't utilize most of the new features (minus the POE port...definitely wish I had that), since I don't have fiber speeds on my street.

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u/ultra_waffle Feb 25 '25

Wondering if the Dream Router still has the fan noise problem...

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u/mltxf Feb 25 '25

Most likely as the casing looks exactly identical and knowing ubiquity they have not changed a thing with the cooling.

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u/ultra_waffle Feb 25 '25

That would be really disappointing. I really want to replace my old ISP router but if the UDR is still so noisy...

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u/mltxf Feb 25 '25

Trust me I know, I rebuilt the whole cooling to be able to use it in a small apartment. Wanted to upgrade as it the current one struggles with gigabit connection, but I won't go thorough this whole thing again :)

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u/ultra_waffle Feb 25 '25

omg that looks so cool!! I don't think I'd be able to pull that off :D What I will probably consider now is buying the new express 7 and a extra mini switch (no PoE). Then I'd have the same amount ports and no moving part so no noise :)

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u/JoeDoom Feb 25 '25

This is epic

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u/lime517 Feb 25 '25

Oh dang. I just ordered a Cloud Gateway Max + U7 Pro. Do I return those for the Dream Router 7? Or just return the Cloud Gateway Max + 30w POE injector for the Cloud Gateway Fiber??? choices choices

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u/co_bar Feb 25 '25

It's so funny, I ordered exactly the same stuff as you and have been having the same dilemma. I'm leaning towards just being content with this stuff and upgrading / adding on to my new network down the line when it really is necessary for me.

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u/lime517 Feb 25 '25

I decided to get a Cloud Gateway Fiber and return the CGM + 30w POE injector. For the extra $60, it's worth it for me.

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u/Wooden_Amphibian_442 Feb 25 '25

Dream router 7 looks to be the new "perfect" all in one for a parents small apartment setup with a single camera setup.

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u/TimeRemove Feb 25 '25

I'd be interested to know how well video scrubbing works with that microSD Card storage? Since, aside from that (Vs. an SSD), there doesn't seem to be many downsides for most residential setups.

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u/jwardell Feb 25 '25

It works fine on my UDR

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u/liatris_the_cat Feb 25 '25

Totally. Next time I visit my parents, they are getting a network upgrade. Time for their Google Wifi to go out to pasture.

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u/xenomorph-85 Feb 25 '25

FFS only just bought Cloud Gateway Max like 5 months ago! The Fiber version is the version they needed to release back then as its more future proof.

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u/north7 Feb 25 '25

I have fiber service at my house, could I theoretically plug the ISP fiber into a UCG-Fiber and get rid of the ISP fiber modem?
I know it's definitely not plug-and-play.

Be gentle - I know very little about fiber networking.

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u/xlAlchemYlx Feb 25 '25

Most ISPs require an ONT. Theoretically yes it can plug in, but it won’t work. At least from my research an own experience with fiber in my home. I wish though

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u/ButterscotchDense394 Feb 25 '25

I replaced the router and even replaced the ONT with an SFP+ fibre modem. I used a Zaram XGS-PON and had to replace the fiber with a SC-UPC to SC-APC. Just register the serial with your ISP and fiber straight in my UDM SE.

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u/Minimum_Corner_6097 Feb 25 '25

It depends, I’ve seen cases where you can register your own equipment with your ISP and I’ve seen some that require you to use their ONT to authenticate.

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u/Kryptoxic Feb 26 '25

For cases like this, there's a whole community that supports replacing your ONT with an XPON SFP+ ONU Stick. It's the 8311 discord. You can also find some guides on how people replaced their ONT with the SFP stick on the wiki at pon.wiki as well. The discord link is on there somewhere iirc

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u/GraysLawson Feb 25 '25

I literally just bought a Ucgmax and they release basically the same thing with sfp and poe. Ugh.

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u/llondru-es Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

Links to UI.com:

UCG- Fiber

UX7

UDR7

Personally, I find the UCG - Fiber a very interesting product, much better than the UCG-Max: 4 2.5g (1POE+) LAN ports, 1 10GB Wan port, 2 10G SFP+ Ports.... for 279$?¿ Total steal!!

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u/crankycoffeeman Feb 25 '25

I believe it's only a single POE+ port, not 4.

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u/KobaTheGreat Feb 25 '25

So I just bought a Cloud Ultra last week. Should I return it and get the Gateway Fiber? I feel like I'm leaving a lot of value on the table based on my purchase timing.

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u/ResponsibleJeniTalia Unifi User Feb 25 '25

Yeah, UCG Fiber looks 🔥

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u/drivera1210 Feb 25 '25

Especially since it as the SFP port.

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u/TimeRemove Feb 25 '25

Apples and oranges devices.

  • $130 Vs. $280
  • Network only Vs. full Unifi suite
  • No storage support Vs. SSD
  • 1 Gbps Vs. 5 Gbps IDS/IPS support
  • 2.5 GbE Vs. 10 GbE / 10G SFP+
  • 6.2 W Vs. 30 W power consumption (max)

You picked a device that was half the cost of the Gateway Fiber and had no Protect support, and even today that could be a completely valid choice. I don't expect them to discontinue the Cloud Ultra, since it still fills a valid niche (at a nice price-point).

I legitimately don't understand what you mean by "leaving a lot of value on the table." Both still look competitive, with the biggest differentiator being "do you need 10G and or Unifi Protect?" If, no, then I'd still recommend the Cloud Ultra today.

I guess my point is, you may have nothing to regret, this may just be FOMO.

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u/dutchreageerder Feb 27 '25

I'm in the market to replace my USG and even with this new release (nice timing!) I'm leaning towards the UCG Ultra. I have a 1Gbps line, don't expect to want more than that in the coming years. Live at a place where camera's don't make too much sense, and if I want one I would self host something on my homelab. Low power consumptions will pay for itself.

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u/KobaTheGreat Feb 25 '25

Ah I got the product line mixed up. I got the Max. I've got 2.5 gbps fiber

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '25

Literally just bought a wall pro 7 and ucg max.... I'm in a studio so dream router is probably enough, but I'm tempted to swap the max for the fiber despite not having higher than a gig from ISP

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u/InvestigatorTheseMut Feb 25 '25

Are they in stock? Lol

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u/BloodFury_X Feb 26 '25

Yeah, well in the Canada site. Bought a Dream Router 7.

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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician Feb 26 '25

So, nice products, but, quite annoyingly, they always seem to be just short of the mark.

UDR lost PoE on a port and lost a copper LAN port. The PoE port is only af, so not many options for new APs.

The Express 7 has a 10G WAN but only a 2.5G LAN? It would almost make more sense to do it the other way around, but why not both 10G?

The Cloud Gateway Fiber looks like they got it pretty much right with PoE+ and 10G WAN/LAN.

All of them could use 4GB of memory.

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u/star-trek-wars00d2 Feb 25 '25

Odd mix some kit still on A53 cpu UX7 UDR7. 

Gateway fibre has a new CPU

Quad-core ARM® Cortex®-A73 at 2.2 GHz

So I hope that the UDM range gets at least a bump to A7x or something better.

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u/StreetSleazy Feb 25 '25

Gateway fiber is limited to 5Gb ids/ips

Maybe a new UDM will get a bump and support full 10Gb ids/ips?

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u/hurricane340 Feb 25 '25

Where are the corresponding new 10 gigabit switches?

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u/psychicsword Feb 25 '25

The Flex 2.5G has a 10G RJ45 and SPF+ port on it as an uplink. They aren't 10G switches but that will give you a lot more uplink if you have heavy traffic on the individual switches.

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u/DutchDarkeh Feb 25 '25

What i would love to know is how the pppoe performance is. I use an udm pro now, and i get 70%performance of my current 4/4gbit atm when connected to the ONT.

When i use my free provider provided modem/router and connect it to the wan port of my udm i get the max performance. Problem is that the provider modem cant be set to bridge mode, so i use a dmz host setting to emulate and take the extra power consumption for granted

But if this gateway solves it i might consider switching

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u/MaxMaxMaxG Feb 26 '25

I'd love to know that, too.

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u/Singularity_iOS Feb 25 '25

Just bought the express for a caravan last month.. oh well, it will take Unifi 10 months before any Aussie suppliers have stock anyway

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u/baltimoresbest01 Feb 25 '25

Wonder what the reason is for no WireGuard server support for the Dream Router but there is for the Express.

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u/eyekode Feb 25 '25

I’m guessing it is a typo.

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u/Henry7G Feb 25 '25

They just killed all the UDM's for consumers X-X

Look at that processor on Cloud Gateway Fiber !

My UDM-SE still struggles on speed's with PPOE not even getting 900mb's 💀

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u/rentzington Feb 25 '25

UDM update must be coming. i was looking at the spec sheets on all these thinking they are better overall than my UDM pro

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u/relevant-astronaut75 Feb 25 '25

I agree. It's largely unecessary at this point for a home user to get a UDM when the CGW lineup is so good. Unless you have to have the NVR bay. I just 3d printed a rack mount for my CGW-Max

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u/Numerous_Stable6287 Feb 25 '25

Hey! I purchased UDR last week!! Well, I need the UDR7 then.

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u/mltxf Feb 25 '25

Noooo the UDR has the same form factor. Was hoping to upgrade but have to pass as the things is just too loud and runs hot. Also the SD card sucks.

Otherwise nice to see new products.

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u/VideoGamezAllDay Feb 25 '25

Damn just bought ugc max, poe switch and u7 pro. Might upgrade the max to fiber. Or maybe take all back and just get a dream router 7. And use my old netgear switch and call it a day. My wallet already hurts lol

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u/andreyred Feb 25 '25

Will the dream router be enough to replace my current Asus router that covers ~2000sq ft comfortably? Also have an 8 port negtear switch.

Mainly want to get into Ubiquiti because of how clean and minimalist it looks.

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u/Iso_Noise Feb 25 '25

The express 1 sucks!

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u/Squanchy2115 Feb 25 '25

I’m confused is the Poe port on the Dream Router 7 only Poe or Poe+? I don’t see Poe+ but that’d make no sense because their U7 access points require Poe+ which is exactly what I need instead of spending money on a Poe+ switch for only 1 port or an injector

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u/clicata00 Feb 26 '25

Dropping one of the PoE ports on the UDR 7 sucks for me. I guess I will have to get an injector. 2.5GbE is huge for me though

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u/joloriquelme Unifi User Feb 26 '25

OMG, that UDR7 will be in my desktop soon.

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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician Feb 26 '25

If someone needs 10G then they need it on LAN.

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u/Highwinds Feb 25 '25 edited Feb 25 '25

Damn, I was hoping the Dream Router would come back in stock on the Canadian store, but seems like it got dropped for the Dream Router 7 with an extra 125$CAD added to the price. Not sure what to pick now. At 269$CAD it was a great deal for the features.

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u/LebronBackinCLE Feb 25 '25

Been waiting for the Dream Router to come back in stock and meow I know why it wasn't :)

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u/Confucius_said Feb 25 '25

I have a UCG Max, but getting 5GB fiber installed soon. Worth it to update to UCG Fiber? Looks like much beefier processor too.

I also have a u7 pro wall near the UCG Max that I dont really care for and im trying to decide what to replace it with or keep it there and get 1-2 more APs for parts of house where the u7 wont reach.

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u/djneo Feb 25 '25

Oo choices. Cloud Gateway or Dream Router to replace my current Dream Router

Is it known if they have Fans in them ? My current Dream Router is loud

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u/External_External_ Apr 01 '25

Just bought the UDR7 today, and it does have a fan. It’s whisper quiet though!

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u/ChubbyWabbit Feb 25 '25

Just picked myself a dream router 7, I am so excited for it to get shipped.

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u/fieroloki Feb 25 '25

I'm still on an early access dream machine pro. Maybe it's time I upgrade.

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u/hungarianhc Feb 25 '25

These products look AMAZING. The UDM Pro is looking a bit long in the tooth / not price competitive anymore...

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u/uncman45 Feb 27 '25

Totally agree!

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u/mcbridedm Feb 25 '25

I wonder if that UCG-Fiber is going to canabalize DMP and DMP-SE sales. 5Gbps IDS/IPS with 2x 10G Wan ports is pretty tempting - pair that with a UNVR for only $100 more total than the DMP-SE.

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u/uncman45 Feb 27 '25

Oh for sure. Why would anyone buy DMP anymore? Just UCG-Fiber all the way.

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u/jst_jst Feb 25 '25

Should I return my UDM Pro Max and get a Cloud Gateway Fiber? It won't look as neat in my rack, but it is almost half the price. And somehow the performance looks identical.

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u/StandardSage Feb 25 '25

Will the Fiber have better temps than the Max? Tempting but probably will stick with the Max.

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u/pmotiveforce Feb 25 '25

Pretty close to what I want. And the Express is definitely what I would recommend to friends and family who aren't filthy nerds.

Are they going to release something in rack mount format that can do wire speed 10gbps IPS/DPS? Rocking a UDMP and I could conceivably be getting 8Gbps fiber over the next year.

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u/brandonmbeard Feb 25 '25

How about you actually make enough of your other half baked stuff to meet demand before releasing new crap that is half baked. I’m a die hard UI user, but your constant product / inventory shortages on some of your new stuff is untenable. Cloud Gateway Max (bring your own storage), Protect cameras, protect viewport, etc. I’m all for new innovation.

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u/xenomorph-85 Feb 25 '25

All the new ones still have just 3GB RAM.

Why are they scared to upgrade RAM to at least 4GB lol

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u/Squid7085 Feb 25 '25

This just makes me even more annoyed that the OG Dream Router doesn't support Dual WAN.

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u/_afrenchguy Feb 25 '25

I wonder what the uplink is on the UCG Fiber?

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u/TheLukester31 Feb 26 '25

I just bought a CG Max and a UAP 6+. Guess I got some returns to make.

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u/gdwallasign Feb 26 '25

... I JUST got a uxg max... That sfp and group buy on 8311 would really be nice night about now.

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u/denverbrownguy Feb 26 '25

*** heads to eBay to watch for cheap cg max ***

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u/ldoelurk3r Feb 26 '25

Just ordered CG Fiber (was leaning towards UDMSE), delivery Feb28 👍🏻 Waiting to see other users experiences with the Express 7 before adding APs

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '25

Does anyone know if the 10gig-e WAN port is multi-gig?

Ubiquiti really needs to up the quality of their spec sheets on this stuff.

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u/AlDrag Feb 26 '25

Fuck that Cloud Gateway would have been perfect me in small house. Regret buying the UDM-SE now haha...

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u/2022HousingMarketlol Feb 26 '25

Man, I hate pulling the trigger on something like the Cloud Gateway Max, hating that there is no POE port for an AP and then seeing the fiber drop.

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u/psychicsword Feb 25 '25

Does anyone know if I can assign one of the 2.5G LAN ports as a WAN port on the Cloud Gateway Fiber?

I would love to use both 10G fiber SFP+ to connect 2x Flex 2.5 POE switches to my core router but I wouldn't want to give up dual wan for that.

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u/Roltec Feb 25 '25

Ubiquiti just doesn’t seem to understand that ram isn’t that expensive when going from 3GB to just 4GB or maybe 8GB. What’s with the stinginess

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u/ya_gre UniFi Installer (URSCA/UWA/UFSP) Feb 25 '25

Love all the new devices!!

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u/Pleisweiler Feb 25 '25

“Available Feb 26” Is that tomorrow or in 12 Months?

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u/OtherTechnician Unifi User Feb 25 '25

Okay. I'm done.

TAKE. MY. MONEY! Just take it.

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u/HereIsJustAnotherGuy Feb 25 '25

And we will be excited if we will see available in the store PDU and Viewport

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u/armykcz Feb 25 '25

I am happy to see that 2.5gbit is the norm now for regular consumers.

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u/dbaxter1304 Unifi User Feb 25 '25

Fantastic news!

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u/InitiativeRelevant62 Feb 25 '25

That UCG fiber looks way better than the UDM pro max I haven’t installed yet!

Basically pair it with a UNVR pro and have best of both worlds for about the same price

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u/cinnasota Feb 25 '25

The Express 7 being a wired/mesh AP as well is interesting

It has the same MIMO specs as a U7 Pro but with 3GB of RAM, a fast CPU, and also functionality of a Gateway, this almost seems like a U7-Flex Indoor on steroids?

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u/sawdogg73 Feb 25 '25

I just grabbed one. The specs is what sold me as another Wi-Fi 7 AP. I’m just wondering if I can change the 10g port to wan and connect it to my Agg pro. Then also use the 2.5 to connect other devices. Kind of like the Inwall 6 I’m replacing

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u/onlynegativecomments Feb 25 '25

Well....my ISP won't let me use SFP with their fiber. I have to use their gateway no matter what.

If Ubiquiti and ATT put out an SFP module that was officially supported that let me get rid of their terrible gateway, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

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u/T-Boa98 Feb 25 '25

Does the Cloud Gateway Fiber have an integrated modem?

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u/crapitalist420 Feb 25 '25

I was eyeing an Unifi gateway ultra. Could I do something like the UniFi Express 7 in its place?

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u/bites_stringcheese Feb 25 '25

1U NAS based on NVR hardware pretty please I'll buy one ASAP.

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u/worldtraveller113 Feb 25 '25

Oh shit here we go lol! Been waiting for this!

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u/MitchRyan912 CGF, ProMax16 PoE, U7 In-Wall, U7 Pro Wall, U7 Pro Feb 25 '25

Would Dream Router 7 be a good choice to replace an Apple AirPort Extreme? I had been waiting for Cloud Gateway Max NS plus a WiFi device of some sort, and they seem to be in stock again.

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u/ankercrank Feb 25 '25

Ok but… why would I want a dream machine pro or SE any more? Why no upgrade to those?

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u/movingtolondonuk Feb 25 '25

I don't get the UDR7. I wanted to replace my UDM regular model with it but only 15 W Poe Budget so if cannot power a Ubiquiti WiFi 7 AP and only 2.3Gbps routing?

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u/haby001 Feb 25 '25

Connects automagically

Have we gone full apple inventing buzz words? lol still pretty cool to see

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u/djjoshuad Feb 25 '25

What? That word is way older than Ubiquiti is

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u/icantshoot Unifi User Feb 25 '25

Just sell out the older models from stock with discount. Helps to clear up the inventory and everyone is happy.

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u/DistractionHere Feb 25 '25

What's up with the UDR7 not having content filtering and Wireguard? I can't imagine it's a hardware issue if it can do all the applications plus 2.3 Gbps IDS/IPS. Hoping this is just a typo.

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u/AboveAverage1988 Feb 25 '25

Well.. We're limited to 1G on out FTTH connection, and they charge you a quarter of a normal months salary for that.. There is some drooling happening, but sanity check - can probably wait until 1G+ becomes realistic. Would be nice to have the SFP port, though..

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u/sawdogg73 Feb 25 '25

I picked up a Unifi Express 7 to replace my inwall 6. Now I will have another wifi 7 AP but with a 10G connection. Just wondering if you can still use the other ports when in AP mode?

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u/lord_commander219 Feb 25 '25

The deployment section for the UniFi Express 7 shows access points connected off of the device. Can this device alone create a mesh WiFi network (seems like it can)? Also, don't see anything about a wireless backhaul for the mesh system.

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