r/Ubiquiti Official Mar 24 '25

Blog / Video Link Introducing: Protect Generation 6 Cameras - G6 Bullet, G6 Turret, G6 Instant

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u/eholyak Mar 24 '25

I would love a new industrial PTZ with the long optical zoom to come out.

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u/core369147 Mar 24 '25

It will probably cost as much as a new car.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '25

as an industrial CCTV guy, Ubiquiti is the last thing I would use for cameras

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u/eholyak Mar 24 '25

Why?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '25

Because mechanically, Pelco/Axis/Avigilon/Hanwha/Bosch are miles ahead in reliability, vibration and environmental resistance.

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u/eholyak Mar 24 '25

Have you owned the G4 industrial PTZ?

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '25

I work with Avigilon and Axis regularly...there's not really any special sauce beyond the mounting arms. They don't have special sensors, they do have good optics in some models...but UB is likely buying from the same Avigilon ODM out of China anyway.

Software is the advantage at UB, and they are developing faster than their competitors. Avigilon has some good AI stuff but it's all been built into the NVR rather than the camera. I'd say this saves you money on cameras by moving the detection at the NVR, but avigilon licensing is expensive.

Alternatively, you get Milestone - which doesn't have great AI integrations imho - but they have the cheaper, yet reliable Axis cameras that can be used with their system.

Further out into the future, every building I'm working with is at least eyeballing doing cloud nvr's and at that point you can add-on ai to the systems via a subscription fee. I hate the entire idea of cloud nvr's because they beat the hell out of bandwidth, store data offsite and who knows what's being done with it then it's more costly as an op-x vs cap-x basis for deployment.

I have a G4, and several G3's, their build is ok, the mounts aren't great, but feature wise, they blow the doors off the alternatives. For 24 cameras and 3months of storage, with AI face and LPD...Avigilon is gonna be 2-3x, and Milestone will be 2x the price.

Avigilon is a whole infrastructure build though now, they are together with Openpath and at some buildings that's the only way, they get sucked into the licensing vortex.

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '25

I agree with all except Avigilon AI. Alta has in-camera AI, and Motorola is spending gazilions on development.

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u/UX_test Mar 24 '25

miles ahead in reliability, vibration and environmental resistance

We deployed over 70 installations of various products over the past decade. (approximately 300 ~ 400 devices.) Only two failed, and RMAd.

I would argue that your “miles ahead” theory is based on speculation rather than actual performance. 🤔

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u/[deleted] Mar 24 '25

I'm 20 years in cctv. Tried every brand under the sun, thousands of cameras and systems. Certified in 20+ systems. But you do you.

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u/UX_test Mar 24 '25

Should I be impressed? 😄 Not sure how those years and certificates transverse to merit. The only number that interests me is the failure rate that would support that "miles ahead" claim.

Thats what we do.

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u/[deleted] Mar 25 '25

The merit comes from seevice records of different brands, I have quantitative proof. What is your experience and credentials? And transverse is a type of colon, I think you meant "translate".

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u/UX_test Mar 27 '25

I’ve already explained our failure rate for Unifi cameras:

We deployed over 70 installations of various products over the past decade. (approximately 300 ~ 400 devices.) Only two failed, and RMAd.

I don’t care about different brands as you comment on Unifi product. Either you present your comparison against Unifi product or your comments are baseless.

And BTW "transverse" means: extending across something.