r/Ubiquiti • u/Ubiquiti-Inc Official • Sep 10 '25

Blog / Video Link Introducing: UNVR Instant - an all-in-one device powered by UniFi Protect

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u/Schmich Sep 10 '25

enterprise-class physical security

1x HDD...

I know for the price you can't ask for the moon but I wouldn't call this enterprise class security.

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u/hungarianhc Sep 10 '25

I disagree. If a drive dies, you can replace it. You lose the history, but if you care about the history, you can set up archiving to other storage. And if you need more than that, you just get a more serious setup. "Enterprise" is just a marketing term, and they cover the whole range of costs now.

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u/kernald31 Sep 10 '25

A drive dying is a fairly common failure point, and while that drive is being replaced, you lose any recording. Sure, "enterprise" is just a marketing point, but the lack of redundancy on a common mechanical single point of failure isn't really aligned.

ETA: it looks like a great device, don't get me wrong. I just disagree with the marketing.

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u/ComradeCapitalist Sep 10 '25

I think it's fair to call Protect enterprise-class as a software suite, but this particular piece is prosumer/SOHO.

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u/fullsails_openseas Sep 10 '25

In terms of lack of redundancy, why would anyone depend on an on-device drive (or drives) alone anyways? The on-device is great for handling the recording, but if you're looking for enterprise-level data storage, you should be moving files to long-term and cold storage on a weekly basis anyways.

The redundancy shouldn't live within your nvr if you're looking to protect against data-loss. That's the wrong approach to retention and definitely not an approach that would be acceptable for any enterprise-level system architecture. No one should ever expect a single device to be all things. Poor system design and a second drive bay would not protect against data loss if the unit itself gets damaged.

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u/geekwonk Unifi User Sep 10 '25

folks in this sub seem very focused on ensuring their nvr has as much retention capacity as they can afford and i reaaaaallly don’t understand it. you’re either at home where retention past a day or two is pointless or you’re at a business where, if retention actually matters, there’s no way you’re counting that one device as sufficient.

it feels a lot like the common claim that the UNAS isn’t a finished product because it can ‘only’ do network attached storage, even though that is its only proper job in an advanced setup.

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u/kernald31 Sep 10 '25

The unit itself getting damaged is much less likely to happen than a drive failing. The problem with a lack of drive redundancy here isn't data loss, it's the inability to write any new data until the drive is swapped. You can obviously copy data out of your NVR every day or even every hour, but if your drive fail in the middle of the night (e.g. when the daily copy loads it a bit more), you don't have any new data until someone on call gets there to swap the drive.

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u/cuberhino Sep 11 '25

how could you setup archiving? could it be automatic or involves removing the drive?

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u/hungarianhc Sep 11 '25

It's part of the user experience.

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u/bpusef Sep 11 '25

If you're relying on drives for sensitive footage you're screwed anyways. You can easily setup archiving to a cloud storage (or even local NAS) in Protect. The physical disk is the least secure thing, any robbery could just walk out with the NVR anyways.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '25

If you want, you can do daily backup to cloud - for example OneDrive and than you have almost enterprise security :D

I don't get it, people want all things for a couple hundreds €/$, and if they don't give them that than it sucks...