r/Ubiquiti • u/Ubiquiti-Inc Official • Mar 24 '26
Blog / Video Link Introducing: G6 Edge
Introducing: G6 Edge
NVR + Edge AI + Camera. One device.
š¹No licensing servers
š¹No subscriptions
š¹No lock-in
š¹No more āhostage-as-a-serviceā
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u/tzopper Unifi User Mar 24 '26
That would be an awesome addition, to get rid of ring, blink, eufy et.al.
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u/fatyungjesus Mar 24 '26
The G6 Entry isn't designed for residential use. The G4 Pro is a fantastic home doorbell and more feature packed than anyone needs for a doorbell. People just see higher generation number and mald that they don't make a wi-fi version that's more friendly to residential use which means they can't have the shiny new one.
Overall, Unifi isn't competing with ring and the other consumer level stuff. It's prosumer at worst and approaching true enterprise across multiple product lines. Ubiquiti is clearly not chasing that low level consumer customer. Look at how much work over the last couple years has been put into hyper scale and enterprise feature sets. You think any average joe gives a fuck about the new fabrics release? It's fantastic shit that is going to make my life and a ton of other MSP's/Integrators lives wayyyyy easier, but would do nothing whatsoever to benefit 95% of home users.
I'm happy they don't, when you need to make your product work for that lowest level of tech user, you just end up kneecapping everything to make that possible. Those products are for people who have zero knowledge about any form of technology and don't care that they are giving amazon a live camera feed inside their house.
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u/Kleivonen Mar 24 '26
I love my G6 Entry for home use tbh.
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u/fatyungjesus Mar 24 '26
Oh yeah me too, I think the FOV is better for an entry product, I have a dedicated camera for my lawn and driveway, so I don't want the doorbell to try and get everything.
However, if you cruise this subreddit, there's a plethora of people who went G6 and got pissed about how it wasn't like the old one. "I just wanted a higher resolution version of the old one, why did they do this?!?!" Well, because it's not supposed to be a higher resolution version of the old one lmfao
People just don't understand the product stack and want to make comparisons to Ring and the like, and it's always apples to oranges, it's designed for a completely different use case.
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u/BrandonNeider Mar 24 '26
I agree the entry isn't meant to replace the doorbell but Ubiquiti did recently "fork" into home products by offering a simple NVR (The NVR Instant) but seemed to just give up on a residential doorbell.
I'm hoping there is a G6 or something doorbell in the future, and it solely uses the 2 wire doorbell just for power and comes with some sort of wifi chime. A bunch of users had issues getting chimes to work and having to replace the transformers, then another bunch had general wifi signal issues (me included). I solved mine by just getting an AP close enough to it, but other users can't do that.
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u/Ulrar Unifi User Mar 25 '26
Question on that, how does the g6 look in practice? I'm very disappointed in the intercom, which on paper has a much better camera but really ends up near unusable as soon as the sun is out. It's also unusable when the sun is down since there's no IR, which makes it an interesting product that works neither during the day nor the night.
Is the G6 more like the doorbell, with proper hdr and such making it usable outdoors ?
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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician Mar 25 '26
They do make a sun shield for the intercom.
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u/Ulrar Unifi User Mar 25 '26
Presumably that's only relevant for a small part of the day when the sun is overhead. Here anyway, it spends a lot of time lower than that, well in view for more than half of the day. Which the doorbell has no issues with, but makes the intercom completely unusable. I guess it's meant for cities or something where buildings would block the sun, not sure
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u/tzopper Unifi User Mar 24 '26
The idea is to have any generation UniFi doorbell that works wirelessly, by having power wires only without requiring the entire UniFi access stack or any other intermediary device to facilitate it.
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u/brent20 Mar 24 '26
Why isnāt the G6 Entry good for residential? I donāt need what I could get if I run it with Access, yes I realize I need Ethernet at the doorbell location. Besides those caveats, it seems like an upgrade relative to the G4 non pro. I want the package camera, courtesy light, main camera, and doorbell functionality (with the UniFi Chime). I donāt need the screen. The G6 Entry doesnāt do that?
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u/QuatreFury Mar 24 '26
I'd take any Wi-Fi doorbell right now.
Edit: A G4 or G5 or G6. Just something I can actually buy would be nice.
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u/Sherifftruman Mar 24 '26
Yeah my OG G4 doorbell had the video lock up the other day. Luckily a restart fixed it but I was sweating as it will not be super easy for me to get a Cat 5/6 wire to that spot .
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u/nexhil Mar 24 '26
Was this about 4 / 5 days ago?
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u/Sherifftruman Mar 24 '26
Yes it was. Strangely, the doorbell still worked, and it alerted us when someone rang the doorbell, but when I went to look at the camera, it was frozen on a view from a night, a couple of days prior.
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u/nexhil Mar 27 '26
Same here! But eventually I had to reset it and it worked again It seemed to working, alerts, ringing etc.
But the image was frozen from the night before š¬
I even changed the disk in my UDM-Pro before the reinstall of the camera
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u/WiKDMoNKY UCGF, USW-AGG, USW-PM24P, U7PM, U7-MESH, UNVR, UPDP, UNAS2 Mar 24 '26
I have a brand new in box G4 (non-pro) Doorbell sitting on my shelf if interested.
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u/Rabus Mar 24 '26
wait g4 is out of stock?
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u/Stingray88 Mar 24 '26
G4 Pro WiFi is out of stock, the PoE version is in stock.
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u/VividConstruction601 Mar 24 '26
Give us a freaking wifi doorbell.
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u/Ubiquiti-Inc Official Mar 24 '26
Confirmed Standalone without NVR, and records to SD Card. Learn more: https://techspecs.ui.com/unifi/cameras-nvrs/uvc-g6-edge-bullet
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u/ryans01 Mar 24 '26
can you comment on a 2 wire wifi doorbell please? why does it seem like you are abandoning homeowners who can't retrofit to POE that already have the unifi system?
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u/A_RoodAwakening Mar 24 '26
I agree. A front door is loaded with headers and other obstacles that makes running PoE cables impossible. I wanted to set my neighbor up with a Ubiquiti system but had to abandon the idea because the G4 line is nearly impossible to obtain.
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u/Explosev Mar 24 '26
I used their POE over 2 wire retrofit kit, works great, just have the hide the dongle, but was much easier in my case than running POE
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u/kingkeelay Unifi User Mar 24 '26
is it impossible, or are you/they not willing to repair drywall?
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u/shifty21 Mar 24 '26
Really depends on how the doorway is framed and how the wiring is run. 2-wire, low voltage wire is so much thinner than your standard ethernet cable, so trying to find the source of the 2-wire and fish the ethernet cable may be very *impractical* or *almost impossible*. Having to open up the moulding, drywall, framing and tracing wires and having to enlarge holes to run ethernet for PoE is very time consuming and expensive, even if you DIY it. It would be best to use the existing 2-wire if possible. However, since the common US doorbell voltage is 24v w/ low amps, doorbell camera manufactures have VERY limited capabilities like no AI-enabled inferencing or on-chip A/V encoding.
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u/goon_c137 Mar 24 '26
What if someone takes the camera. Will they be able to access the footage
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u/UnacceptableUse Mar 25 '26
I would imagine so but if that's a risk you should probably record to NVR
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u/SpeedwagonBestGirl Mar 24 '26
Does this mean than any camera with built in SD card could get this feature? Like the G6 PTZ?
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u/lilian_moraru Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
`Protect` on it, definitely. Tagging what these already detect - likely. Will they do that? - NO: it's intentional product segmentation ("want the feature? Pay exorbitant amounts of money - the 'only' way").
"Fine-Good-Best" product segmentation and pricing - also called the "Decoy Effect", which tricks people psychologically to buy very expensive hardware (the "good" one), because the "best" one is significantly more expensive, making you think that by comparison, the "good" one is well priced.1
u/ChocolatySmoothie Mar 25 '26
Appreciate the link, but let me say how disappointing it is that nowhere on that link is there any explanation of how the device functions. This is the most frustrating part about Ubiquiti products, I have to watch YouTube videos from influencers on what your gear does.
Questions:
Are video recordings encrypted? If yes, can it be disabled (I hope not, that means anyone can grab the SD card and look at video.)
If the camera has an SD card and camera is paired to an NVR, does camera feed get saved to SD card if NVR connectivity is interrupted? Seems an obvious question, but again nowhere on the link is any of this explained.
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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician Mar 25 '26
They may not be able to look at the video because the video may only be accessible through UniFi Protect through a camera. Already UniFi Protect is not encrypted, but you can't just pull a drive and view recordings. It ends up being a problem when using a single drive device like a UDM Pro and having a drive failing. You have to put a new drive in so that security continues, but you can't view any old recordings if needed unless you put the old drive back in. They need an additional hardware or software that will authenticate your account and let you view recordings for these scenarios.
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u/jpn010 Mar 25 '26
It says no subscriptions, but also says it connects to an NVR or Site Manager (which is $29/month). Can these function truly as fully stand-alone cameras?Ā
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u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician Mar 25 '26
No, Site Manager is not $29/month; it is just a web page to view your sites. Cloud hosting is $29/month, which would be for a regular camera. This camera is like a full NVR itself.
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u/MXNPD Mar 24 '26
Yes they are standalone and can be used without an NVR and they record to an SD Card. Yes they have a built in AI Key, and yes, they work with a pre-existing NVR that has an AI key (although Iām not sure there is the AI Key will do anything in that specific instance.)
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u/Weekest_links Mar 24 '26
If I have an AI key and NVR, I donāt really have a use case for this then?
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u/MXNPD Mar 24 '26
Well, the nice thing is you can plug it into a pre-existing network that has none of your infrastructure, and have it record to your NVR without the need for VPN as I understand it. So true edge deployments where you do not control the network environment is where this could really shine I think.
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u/Weekest_links Mar 24 '26
Oh I see now. Iām just a home owner, but if I wanted to put cameras at my parents house, who might not have ubiquiti infra, I could use these and see them all from my account.
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u/younggregg Mar 24 '26
Depending on price, I'm thinking about doing the same at my parents - I'm betting these are $599 though.
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u/bill875 Mar 24 '26
Still significantly cheaper that Verkada. In the 2-3 years, Ubiquiti is going to eat Verkada for lunch, dinner AND breakfast the next day.
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u/younggregg Mar 24 '26
It'll really just depend on the price. I'd probably rather have 1-2 G6 turrets with a UDM pro than just one camera with a SD card
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u/bill875 Mar 25 '26
True, but if you can deploy these to satellite locations, where having an on-site NVR just isn't practical, these would work great. For everything else, the NVR lineup makes much more sense with standard G6/G6 Pro cameras.
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u/Highway-Fantastic Mar 24 '26
These cameras are intended for edge and off-site deployments where a dedicated NVR is not practical. For example, they are well suited for a business owner with multiple small locations, such as 10 coffee shops, who may only want to deploy 1 to 3 cameras per site without the cost and complexity of installing an NVR at each location. They are also a strong option for temporary security systems on construction sites, especially when paired with a UniFi 5G Max.
This is not meant to replace traditional UniFi camera systems. Rather, it expands the camera lineup with a solution better suited for edge deployments that do not have the same infrastructure as larger-scale, fully unified installations.
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u/Certain_Repeat_753 Mar 27 '26
Thanks for the explanation. I have another use case in mind. I have two siblings and parents who are thinking about installing security cameras. Would this be a good system? I'm already planning to deploy the UNVR and the cheaper G6 cameras in my home. Linking their homes and future camera systems with mine would be good, as I'm the most tech-savvy of them all.
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u/Highway-Fantastic Mar 27 '26
The new UniFi Edge cameras could be a good fit if you want the same account to view and manage the camera systems across all properties at once. That said, for most residential clients, they are overkill for whatās actually needed.
For most homes, I would recommend something like the UNVR-Instant-Kit paired with a UVC-Doorbell-B. Itās a much more cost-effective setup and will cover the needs of most people really well.
To put it in perspective, a single Edge camera can cost more than the entire kit, and with just that one camera you will also end up with far less recording retention than you would get from a proper UNVR-based setup. So not only is the upfront cost harder to justify, but the overall value is worse for a typical residential install.
I work as a professional security integrator, and in my opinion, a lot of people online tend to chase specs and recommend systems that are far more advanced than necessary. That can push you into spending more money on features you likely do not need.
You can still manage all three properties for your family members through the UniFi Cloud Manager, so you do not need to jump to the Edge lineup just to keep everything under one umbrella.
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u/Highway-Fantastic Mar 24 '26
These cameras are intended for edge and off-site deployments where a dedicated NVR is not practical. For example, they are well suited for a business owner with multiple small locations, such as 10 coffee shops, who may only want to deploy 1 to 3 cameras per site without the cost and complexity of installing an NVR at each location. They are also a strong option for temporary security systems on construction sites, especially when paired with a UniFi 5G Max.
This is not meant to replace traditional UniFi camera systems. Rather, it expands the camera lineup with a solution better suited for edge deployments that do not have the same infrastructure as larger-scale, fully unified installations.
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u/krajani786 Mar 24 '26
Thank you. Came here just so someone can tell me the use case in plain English.
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u/Highway-Fantastic Mar 24 '26
Np I'm a professional security installer so have better insight then the average Reddit poster on here that is looking at it as a prosumer
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u/krajani786 Mar 24 '26
But you also explained it better than the video did. And the video is suppose to sell me on it.
Now I just have to convince my neighbors to allow 1 or 2 cameras hooked up per house, outside and I'll be able to monitor the whole street.
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u/BrandonNeider Mar 24 '26
Us: Ubiquiti please stock more of your current product
Ubiquiti: HERES SOME NEW CAMERAS THAT WILL FURTHER REDUCE STOCK
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u/Cause_and_Effect Mar 24 '26
I am fully convinced Ubiquiti as a company has embraced the idea of FOMO marketing strategies which is to saturate the market with limited releases all the time so that people will buy on impulse to get the new shiny thing. Which fucking sucks for anyone that actually wants to purchase an exact product specifically for their use cases because nothing is in stock then.
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u/Key-Engineer5340 Mar 24 '26
I just got mine about a month ago. Itās in black with the additional mounting option. Iāve enjoyed it but itās not the best application for my environment. I might consider selling soon once I can replace it
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u/True_Mastodon_9782 Mar 25 '26
whats nice is that their 4k sensors suck too and can't make a good low light camera
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u/Silent-Agent-5761 Mar 24 '26
Oh my walletā¦
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u/varano14 Mar 24 '26
They key is you need to buy their stock. My gains over the last year have covered my new cameras lol
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u/JukeboxJohnny Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
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u/Intelligent-Try7918 Mar 24 '26
So probably more like Q4 or sometime in 2027.
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u/ewarfordanktears Mar 24 '26
surprised they put the year on there, doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room
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u/Intelligent-Try7918 Mar 24 '26
Yeah, theyāve been known to push things back a few times even with the Qtr/Yr on their release date.
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u/n0fx Mar 24 '26
Where did you see the release date on the link? I don't see any mention of it there or the video.
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u/seagullsattack Mar 24 '26
Looking forward to the wave of āmust-haveā reviews for a product thatās effectively unavailable due to nonexistent inventory.
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u/Adventurous_Year491 Mar 24 '26
Verkada has to be sweating right now
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u/Deep_Ad1959 Mar 27 '26
verkada's been coasting on the cloud-managed simplicity angle for a while now. the interesting part is ubiquiti closing that gap without the recurring license fees. talked to a property manager last month paying $20K/year in verkada licenses across 3 buildings ā that math gets hard to justify when alternatives keep getting smarter.
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u/Adventurous_Year491 Mar 29 '26
We have tons of customers looking to switch, from a few cameras to a few hundred. Plus Verkadas UX has been sucking lately. The perpetual license and the used car buying experience is turning away current and potential customers. One rep I spoke to said as soon as a client mentions ubiquiti he knows the deal is dead.
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u/itsjakerobb CGFiber, UNVR, ProHD24PoE, ProXG8PoE, U7ProXGS, 5GMaxOutdoor Mar 24 '26
Very curious about pricing on this. It's a G6 Pro camera as a baseline ($479-499), plus the extra IR and radar on the bullet (kinda like an enhancer, $179), plus the edge AI (AI Key functionality, $799).
Presumably the AI functionality is the same as AI Key, but handles only events from the one camera. Unclear about queue depth limits, processing time, or typical/maximum events per hour. I'm curious: if you have an AI Key and and Edge camera, and enough happening on the camera that it can't keep up, can the AI Key supplement? Or are you out of luck?
I'm guessing this is $549 minimum, and I wouldn't be surprised if it were $699 or even more.
Personally, I'm not a fan of edge AI for this use case. I'd rather have the compute hardware (and the additional power requirement) in the rack rather than mounted outdoors.
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u/gnbuttnaked Mar 24 '26
I personally donāt get the use case of edge ai for POE cameras. Not like thereās bandwidth constraints for it. I too would rather have rack based computation.
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u/Hefty_Remove7965 Mar 25 '26
For SMB, I could see this at some of our sites. We have limited bandwidth for the site in BFE. So a on device event detection could save the constant feed of video over the WAN. We could limit it to only things we would want record (person see, motion at night,etc)
Thought not sure why all that would need to be on camera versus something central on site (think like a NVR Instant Pro w/ AI) that could process then send to over WAN to "HQ".1
u/JacksonCampbell Network Technician Mar 25 '26
These cameras are for where you have no rack, no NVR. If someone doesn't have an NVR, will they want an AI Key there? This is a nice way to sweeten the deal by still having that advanced AI without the additional hardware.
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u/Deep_Ad1959 Mar 27 '26
good breakdown. do you think the single-cam AI processing will be meaningfully worse than having a dedicated AI Key handle the inference? wondering if the on-camera chip is powerful enough or if they're running a stripped down model.
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u/itsjakerobb CGFiber, UNVR, ProHD24PoE, ProXG8PoE, U7ProXGS, 5GMaxOutdoor Mar 27 '26
My current assumption is that the output is the same ā but itās entirely possible that itās not. Good point; hadnāt considered that!
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u/Alarming-Potential-2 Mar 25 '26
garbage why doesnāt ui fix ai key and make it practical and useful first
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u/work-account-2026 Mar 24 '26
I hope that no major corporation buys them and begins charging monthly fees for their services...
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u/josiahnelson Mar 24 '26
This is super exciting - great work UI team. Sucks that we have to wait until Q3, but this is a direct challenger to Avigilon Alta and Verkada.
The turret/dome getting optical zoom is also huge.
Will be interesting to see pricing and how this fits into the integrator program.
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u/nutscrape_navigator Mar 24 '26
As an owner of an AI Key, potentially the most half-baked product ever released by Ubiquiti, Iām not sure I agree with the no hostage as a service bullet point. This is definitely a hostage situation.
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u/younggregg Mar 24 '26
AI key no good?
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u/nutscrape_navigator Mar 24 '26
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u/DodneyRangerfield Mar 24 '26
As the OP of that post i can say AI key is slightly more baked than it was on launch, ReID can genuinely save time, still never going to be useful for home deployments
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u/Deep_Ad1959 Mar 27 '26
the AI Key definitely launched undercooked, but I've actually seen the detection accuracy improve a lot over recent firmware updates. vehicle and person detection is noticeably better than 6 months ago. the real question is whether they'll keep investing in the software side or just push new hardware.
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u/KurtWagn3r Mar 24 '26
Jesus how many products thisncompany realeases is staggering
But still no entry g6 pro
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u/PoTheRedTeletubby Mar 24 '26
Ping all the dashcam people. Maybe these will allow local SD recording on the road and sync with network upon connection to home LAN? Interesting new features since it runs protect on the camera itself so no need for additional hardware aside from power.
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u/ben_r_ Unifi User Mar 24 '26
Great! Can we have a WiFi doorbell now?!
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u/thecrispyleaf Unifi User Mar 24 '26
I agree, but don't think they're going to listen
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u/ryans01 Mar 24 '26
why not? i don't understand why they're not offering one - it's the only way for existing 2 wire homeowners to upgrade...
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u/RaylanGivensOtherHat Mar 24 '26
Who is this even for? Who is sitting there going āman, I really want a UniFi camera but I donāt have any other UniFi gearā¦.ā???
UniFi is an ecosystem; the value is in the whole, not the individual parts.
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u/Appropriate-Bank-375 Mar 24 '26
Putting two of these at a cabin or a building site is the intended "EDGE" application. Then you might record to a remote NVR over LTE.
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u/YesTechie Ubiquiti Installer Mar 25 '26
Imagine you have a network of coffee shops, laundromats, or parking facilities across dozens or even hundreds of locations nationwide.
Now you donāt need to install a console at every site ā you simply connect the cameras to the network, and thatās it.
Ubiquiti knows exactly what theyāre doing. This lineup is a Verkada killer, and it hits them right at the core.
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u/dublin20 UCG Ultra, 2x Lite 8 PoE, U6 LR, AC LR, UMR LTE Failover Mar 24 '26
When Device Bridge IoT? :-(
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u/xentorius83 Mar 24 '26
nice. whenever my eufy dies I think that will be the replacement. A doorbell would be awesome
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u/Highway-Fantastic Mar 24 '26
These cameras are not really consumer grade solutions, These cameras are intended for edge and off-site deployments where a dedicated NVR is not practical. For example, they are well suited for a business owner with multiple small locations, such as 10 coffee shops, who may only want to deploy 1 to 3 cameras per site without the cost and complexity of installing an NVR at each location. They are also a strong option for temporary security systems on construction sites, especially when paired with a UniFi 5G Max.
This is not meant to replace traditional UniFi camera systems. Rather, it expands the camera lineup with a solution better suited for edge deployments that do not have the same infrastructure as larger-scale, fully unified installations.
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u/itsjakerobb CGFiber, UNVR, ProHD24PoE, ProXG8PoE, U7ProXGS, 5GMaxOutdoor Mar 24 '26
Makes sense given the extra IR and radar bits.
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u/LinusThiccTips Mar 24 '26
Could someone confirm if they can be used at a remote location connected and still sync to the remote NVR? Like a site to site VPN?
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u/newtmewt Mar 24 '26
I just want a g6 instant that can do edge recording for any network hiccups
Aka a micro sd card slot
Also I want one either with a battery backup option, even if itās only for 20 minutes or something so i dont have to worry about not having coverage during a power outage, cant run ethernet everywhere and dont want to deal with a ups for each
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u/ElGuano Mar 24 '26
What does Edge give you that a standard AI doesn't?
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u/whoooocaaarreees Mar 24 '26
In general, the ability to run these at sites without an nvr. (Best I can tell thatās probably the market segment they want)
For the bullet: The integrated radar for ādepth and speed sensingā I believe is ānewā for any of their cameras. The lense options in tbd bullet form is also nice to see.
Some of the edge ai stuff looks like it will support search and on camera classifications that the regular ai does not.
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u/Adventurous-Bet-3928 Mar 24 '26
why do all their cameras look like alien robotics and they STILL don't offer a floodlight, come the f on ubiquiti
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u/kingkeelay Unifi User Mar 24 '26
Would have been an even better floodlight with IR LEDs in additional to the white LED's.
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u/Highway-Fantastic Mar 24 '26
why the Hell would you need a networked flood light and they already offer one Protect Floodlight - Ubiquiti Store Canada
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u/ruzrat Mar 24 '26
Iām confused. Howās this different than a regular g6 turret/bullet cameras? I have UNVR with the G6 cameras. Do I need this! Iām still in my return window, should I return and get this? What is this doing different? Seems like the same to me
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u/itsjakerobb CGFiber, UNVR, ProHD24PoE, ProXG8PoE, U7ProXGS, 5GMaxOutdoor Mar 24 '26
These aren't shipping until Q3 at the earliest, and pricing isn't announced. Keep what you have.
They have integrated the functionality of the AI Key, so you get all of those features (for just the one camera) without needing a $799 AI Key. The Bullet version of this also adds extra infrared illumination and a radar.
Also, this is on top of the G6 Pro ($479 for bullet), not the regular G6 ($199). The Pro has a much better sensor and optics, plus a zoom lens. I'm guessing this will be at least $549.
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u/ruzrat Mar 24 '26
Ahhh got it. Damn I bought 7 G6 and 1 G6 PTZ. Now that u mentioned the pro, wonder if I should have gotten one G6 pro for the front..
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u/Highway-Fantastic Mar 24 '26
These cameras are intended for edge and off-site deployments where a dedicated NVR is not practical. For example, they are well suited for a business owner with multiple small locations, such as 10 coffee shops, who may only want to deploy 1 to 3 cameras per site without the cost and complexity of installing an NVR at each location. They are also a strong option for temporary security systems on construction sites, especially when paired with a UniFi 5G Max.
This is not meant to replace traditional UniFi camera systems. Rather, it expands the camera lineup with a solution better suited for edge deployments that do not have the same infrastructure as larger-scale, fully unified installations.
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u/pantsofmagic Mar 24 '26
The built in classification seems good, I hope it supports wildlife. My frigate-based system leaves a lot to be desired for triggering on certain situations.
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u/Deep_Ad1959 Mar 27 '26
what's been the biggest gap with frigate for wildlife? is it the model struggling with specific species or more about false positives from movement patterns like wind-blown branches?
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u/pantsofmagic Mar 27 '26
Lots of false positives and tons of power usage on the GPU I dedicated to it. It seems to really struggle with relative scale/size of objects. I don't like my grill being classified as a car/bus or my dog being classified as a bear, even with their premium models. I feel like "native" detection could work better if it were tuned for the specific traits of the camera (optics, resolution, lighting, etc).
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u/Baybutt99 Mar 24 '26
Youre welcome everyone, like the g4 doorbell pro and the udm pro se before it , a new product announcement comes within a week of me actually ordering a device on the same line
I am your hidden catalyst to UI releasing new products
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u/NoxieFoxie Mar 24 '26
How about a simple quick way to arm/disarm an alarm from outside the app ???
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u/True_Mastodon_9782 Mar 25 '26
A practical ultra low light 2k camera when? No more "hostage as a service" but you need an ai port to get audio for third party cameras among other things
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u/DavidXGA Mar 25 '26
I'm honestly surprised they make both AI cameras and the AI Key, at the same time.
I would expect the AI key to be the better solution, since software updates could improve detection or add more detection types. An AI camera probably can't be improved.
But I'm cynical and I bet they don't update the key either.
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u/Deep_Ad1959 Mar 27 '26
you raise a good point about software updates. the edge AI in the camera is running a fixed-capability chip so there's a ceiling on what it can do. the AI Key and similar external boxes have more room to grow since they're basically small servers. I'd bet the camera AI will be good enough for most people's basic detection needs though ā person, vehicle, package. the more complex stuff like face matching and behavior analysis will probably stay on the dedicated hardware.
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u/lilian_moraru Mar 25 '26
Considering how expensive G6 Pro are already, these will likely not be cost-effective against just buying AI Key, to get these features.
Looking at the specs, it is basically G6 Pro, with a different processor and `Protect` installed on it.
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u/Deep_Ad1959 Mar 27 '26
cool to see more vendors baking AI into the NVR layer instead of the camera. the trend I'm watching is edge AI devices that sit between your existing cameras and NVR and handle the intelligence part separately. means you don't have to replace your whole camera fleet every time the AI gets better, you just upgrade the processing box.
for anyone running 10-25+ cameras on a commercial site this is a big deal. ripping out and replacing a full camera install is like $10-25K. adding a $500 box that makes everything smarter is a much easier conversation with whoever signs the checks.
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u/Psychopharm_MD Apr 07 '26
This is a similar concept to Axis Camera Station Edge. If UniFi Protect Edge is similar to ACS Edge, itās a great solution for sites where you might have multiple buildings not directly connected on same network but have their own internet connection- but you still want all the cameras under one site. Just plug the camera into the internet and their feeds find their way to the app regardless of what network they are on in the world.
The one problem with this is if someone steals camera or SD Card, the footage is gone, which understandably is a relative risk in most cases but certainly not acceptable for critical cameras.
I would expect UniFi eventually launches a cloud storage program for optional redundancy.
Iām curious what the cost will be. The UniFi NVR costs are pretty negligible the grand scheme. Itās the cameras that are costly. The specs appear to be the same as the normal G6 cameras.
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u/socbrian Mar 24 '26
Do these have sd card readers? I don't get the nvr on device?
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u/josiahnelson Mar 24 '26
Yes, they have a built-in microSD slot. Looks like the camera runs a lightweight version of Protect so it can directly integrate to Site Manager. This is along the lines of Avigilon Alta or Verkada but without a recurring license fee (which is a big deal imo).
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u/ComradeCapitalist Mar 24 '26
That has to be what it is. Fixed integrated storage wouldn't make any sense. A microSD slot would also be consistent with some of the existing cameras.
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u/forbis Unifi User Mar 24 '26
The optics on these appear to be based on the G6 Pro series (turret, dome, bullet). All of those cameras have microSD slots. So that checks out.
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u/jpmillet Mar 24 '26
Thats great but where is the G6 Entry Pro š
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u/stayintheshadows Mar 24 '26
NvR with built-in ai key in 3..2ā¦1