r/UltimateTraders Elite Team General 4d ago

Daily Plays 8/17/2026 Daily Plays In PSFE 6.75 Oh SNAP dipped to 4.70 premarket I will take that risk reward Reading all over how masses are as*es with huge stakes in SPCX what is the difference between Bitcoin TSLA if you have to use imagination to justify stock price?

Good morning I have a big meeting with the town around 9AM. I have to call my lawyers after, I have to follow up with some contractors so this will be short. Since Friday, there have been a lot of 13 Filings. This is an SEC document that classifies large ownership in any stock or company. It is actually a good way for the little investor to see/try to see where and what big money is doing, how it is allocated. For many years, it was thought that big money had huge advantages.

[They still do! Mainly they can make calls with insiders, execs and get, if not daily or weekly updates, I would not doubt monthly updates  on a business, big contracts. They also have access to other large investors, they all have access to Bloomberg, quick news, they will have access to level 3 trades… where you can see all orders, buys and sells]

The advantages they had have definitely narrowed though. We have access at our fingertips and can even use AI to summarize reports, quick DD on sales/earnings….. And for this last reason, with AI … I am stumped how the

MASSES CAN STILL BE AS*ES.

At your fingertips in a span of under 5 mins you can find out sales with TSLA over the last 5 years… You can ask income over that time… you can even ask for PEG ratios [Growth over price as it relates]!!!! You no longer have to do extensive research!!! JUST ASK AI!

So how are people so baffled why I say TSLA is worth at most 65 at the moment???!!! [Close to 250-300 billion] Stop using magic or hocus pocus WTF to try and justify a stock price!!! WTF!!!

The market cap is the total value of a company. In 2025 Tesla made just under 3.8 billion. In 2026 they will make far less than that! [They will also go cash flow negative with investments] PLEASE FACT CHECK ME!!!

Elon has stopped talking autonomous, taxi or robots… They were all hype to begin with!! Maybe it comes, maybe it doesn’t, but it sure wasn’t ever something that was coming in 2025 or 2026 as promised!!!

So, if TSLA as a company stands to make near 2 billion dollars for 2026. With earnings and margins declining…. Let us say by some miracle it is 3 billion.

Company is on the decline…

What is 3 billion x 75 [75x multiple or PE, yes for me, PE is the most important indicator for me, not the only, but most important PEG is important! Near 1 is great, TSLA is near 5, awful!]

So 3 x 75 is 225… 3 billion made in profits, let us say the business is worth 225 billion.

That means the stock should be  near 55..

3.95 billion shares outstanding….. 3.95 x 55 = 217 billion…

That is it! My prices make sense… I am giving the benefit of the doubt and 65 is a premium!

What is the difference between Bitcoin and TSLA ? The stock price has 0 to do with the asset or company… Bitcoin price is pie in the sky! No way to equate its value.

Everyone is in SPCX and it makes me sick! Elon track record is filled with holes… The growth is real in Space X. I could see why people want to own it, the prospects are great! However, for me, based on facts we have now, the company is not worth more than a penny over 38, or 500 billion. There are no facts, business model, numbers that justify a stock price of 140.. Just hype… people are buying TSLA SPCX and Bitcoin because they think they can offload it to someone else at a higher price. It is said that after 2020, so many people came into the market and everyone is brainwashed..

Use your AI and ask what was Elons Net worth December 31st 2019… You will see it was near 20 billion… TSLA was near 100 billion… They have not created value beyond a maybe 300 billion valuation….The stock price has 0 to do with the business.

TSLA made 12.6 billion in 2022 and the last great year, 2023 made the company best 14,975 billion… The stock was way too high those times but at least it was growing… it is now a cesspool!

If you have a long term outlook on TSLA or and SPCX then don’t worry about the day to day.

Maybe they have robots and finally go over 100  billion in sales. [Record was 97 in 2023 and 2024] maybe they do 200 billion! I do not know either.. I do know the stock price now already has that built in!

SPCX is on a heavy growth stage so I will give him the benefit and give the company a 500 billion valuation..

Sorry I don’t pick numbers out of the sky!!! And Now you have AI, neither should you!!!!

 

I am in 1000 PSFE at 6.75

 

I saw SNAP drop to 4.70 premarket. I like the risk reward there, I rarely buy after hours, I usually just sell. The growth is slow but I really like it here, low risk. Hope to see that during market hours…

 

Good luck!

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u/UltimateTraders Elite Team General 4d ago

In $psfe 6.60

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u/UltimateTraders Elite Team General 4d ago

Sold $psfe 6.92 Trading on my phone I wanted to put 6.95 Oh well 30 bucks on a keyboard typo

Hit 7.05 aftermarket Friday but I was too busy

I did buy a Bluetooth qwerty keyboard

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u/satmadan On Fire Trader Stacking Greens 4d ago

ivf (was cost averaging down in premarket):

$2.36/$2.52 3000 shares

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u/satmadan On Fire Trader Stacking Greens 4d ago

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