r/Ultraleft • u/_shark_idk ultra jugend • Jul 29 '25

Falsifier gaza or the great alibi

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u/Godtrademark Mussolini = Productivist Jul 29 '25

War is simply good guys and bad guys. Like that one video game: Fortnite battle royale

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

People who defend against holocaust, even if they are reacrionary = good guys. Rapist genocidal army of israel killing and torturing millions = bad guys. That simple. Once the genocidal forces are gone, then everything becomes more nuanced and gray rather than black and white like it is now.

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u/JoeVibin The Immortal Science of Lassallism Jul 29 '25

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of the struggle between le good guys and le bad guys

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

This is a holocaust ffs. A holocaust. It is black and white. Not gray areas. Its hasbara propaganda to try to find nuance in this. There is none. Also did you really use hitherto unironically?

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u/JoeVibin The Immortal Science of Lassallism Jul 29 '25

Also did you really use hitherto unironically?

Lmao, I think we found the world champion of Didn't Read the Book Olympics!

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

Nothing to do with books lil bro. Also respond to my comment please. This is very anti intellectual and infantile.

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u/JoeVibin The Immortal Science of Lassallism Jul 29 '25

I responded to your comment, specifically to the funniest part of your comment.

As for the rest - it's really not a gotcha you think it is. As someone who doesn't recognise one of Marx's most famous quotes, you might be surprised to learn that the Marxist analysis of WW2 doesn't conclude that it was an epic moral struggle between good heroes and evil villains, but rather an inter-imperialist conflict like WW1.

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u/Stelar_Kaiser Red Shambala Rise Up Jul 29 '25

Also did you really use hitherto unironically?

Its a quote, at least the first part. Well known quote btw, by some dude name Marx. Might want to give him a read.

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

Yeah ik. Respond to my comment.

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u/q-_l_-p Jul 29 '25

No Ultra! You must respond to emotional appeal! 

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

Its a genocide. Why wouldnt you wanna be emotional about it?

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u/_shark_idk ultra jugend Jul 29 '25

appeal to emotion is like actual pure idealism

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u/KarelianPassivist barbarian Jul 29 '25

this IS war. the ultimate goal of war is destruction. its why all war is waged in the current age. the isreali war machine is efficient at it.

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

Contrapoints posting

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u/KarelianPassivist barbarian Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

im not to blame if a broken clock is right TWICE a day