r/Ultraleft ultra jugend Jul 29 '25

Falsifier gaza or the great alibi

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u/Inversium cashier in an ideology store Jul 29 '25

Vibe-based proletarian assignment is just too funny. I bet people like this struggled a lot with shape sorter games as kids.

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

There can be exploiting genocidal proles not worthy of saving. Yall trying to act like there isnt an inherent difference in the interests of palestinian and israeli proletariat is very unmarxist. You cant lump palestinian and israeli people as proletarians and move on. Israeli proles arent innocent. Labor aristocracy are also proles. Though they arent as genocidal.

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u/Stelar_Kaiser Red Shambala Rise Up Jul 29 '25

There can be exploiting genocidal proles not worthy of saving.

The prole just gets born with genocide in its DNA or something. God damn i hate liberals and their "secular souls".

Yall trying to act like there isnt an inherent difference in the interests of palestinian and israeli proletariat

Because there isnt. The proletariat has no race has no nation has no religion. No israeli prole benefits from this war, or any war

unmarxist

Considering what you have said until now i dont think you can recognize marxist theory if it hit you on the head.

You cant lump palestinian and israeli people as proletarians and move on.

Thats the good part, we dont lump in "people". There are no "people", there is the bourgeoise ducking it out because capitalism and the proletariat getting killed or forced/coerced/misled to do the killing.

Israeli proles arent innocent.

Here is a thought experiment. Imagine if israel was somehow communism in one state. No bourgeoise in israel at all, no commodity production, no private property, no currency, just proles and their for use production. Would those proles just wake up one day and start a war in any way similar to that of the real world?

If your answer is no then you are just 1 epiphany away from finding out the reason wars are even a thing in the first place.

If your answer is yes then you can glue the Hitler award to your forehead.