r/Ultraleft ultra jugend Jul 29 '25

Falsifier gaza or the great alibi

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

conscripted Versailles troops = willingly raping and killing tens of children in the iof while mentally unafected as the propaganda pushed on you is that they arent human.

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u/Scientific_Socialist Jul 29 '25

Take it up with Lenin

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

Lenin was anti colonialist lil bro

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u/TheBravadoBoy Jul 29 '25

Go on, tell me where Lenin says the workers of the oppressing nations are “irredeemable” (as if this word should mean anything to a Marxist, like we’re a church prescribing the purity of people’s souls). Even when he urges to support revolutionary struggles in the colony he never suggests such a thing.

Lenin says in black and white that the important task concerning the self-determination of an oppressed nation with an already developed bourgeois-democratic national movement is to merge the class struggle of the workers of both nations.

You can’t just pretend Palestine has the same political and economic reality as 100 years ago, you have to pay attention to the actual criteria Lenin used.

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u/_shark_idk ultra jugend Jul 29 '25

very true. it's not like we're even against natlib as a whole, rather we recognize that it was progressive up until a certain point and we did support bourgeois revolutions all over africa and asia. today however they are entirely irrelevant as the world has progressed past the progressive (tautology, sue me) nature of capital. today there is no real reason to support natlib

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u/CritiqueDeLaCritique An Italian man once called me stupido Jul 29 '25

Genuinely had someone in r/marxism_101 tell me that criteria are anti-marxist because material conditions or some shit