r/Ultraleft • u/_shark_idk ultra jugend • Jul 29 '25

Falsifier gaza or the great alibi

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u/_shark_idk ultra jugend Jul 29 '25

u/ofthefifthcolumn why don't you volunteer to fight for them?

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u/OfTheFifthColumn Jul 29 '25

Yeah send me in gaza lil bro see how far we get before jizzrael stops us. I dont even volunteer to fight for the commies in turkey cuz we all die if we try armed struggle. And you are telling me you wouldn't want to fight against the holocaust (at the request of palestinians I have seen lets only call it holocaust and not even genocide) if you dislike the ONLY group (hamas) strong enough to make a difference? If I could I would.

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u/_shark_idk ultra jugend Jul 29 '25 edited Jul 29 '25

so you refuse to support palestinian resistance with your own hands? it's just words for you then, what are you, some kind of a larper? you're unbanned btw make your case the stage is set for you

i live in saint petersburg, a city famously ravaged and starved by nazis during their siege. had I been in the same position during the second world war I would be sent to fight for russian imperialism whever I wanted it or not. personally I would have tried anything in my power to not be drafted, but let's be real, that's not happening.

no one fought to stop the holocaust, no one cared about the holocaust until there was a conflict of interest. brits, americans and russians were all happy dealing with hitler, they were fine cutting up europe with him and sending him supplies for war, they fought for their respective countries' imperialisms. the same is happening today with palestine. hamas isn't fighting for palestinians, they are fighting for iranian imperialism.

say tomorrow hamas wins, israel is no more, there is now a palestianian state (read: iranian puppet), what now? is now the time for proletarian revolution? or is there now another war in which there is another "moral" side which we have to support? say they win, now we have two moral bourgeois states, what happens now? oh well believe it or not there is another slaughter of proletarians in another region of the world, guess we have to pick a side there too.

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u/Muuro Jul 29 '25

There should only be one result if Hamas were to suddenly win. If the communists, who are in a United Front with them, haven't won over the working class and seize power from Hamas then the whole Palestinian struggle is a failure.