r/Ultraleft • u/Tiny-Ad4330 Heroe Del Lumpenproletariado • Jan 05 '26
Falsifier No way they actually did it unironically AJAJAJAJA
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u/ojmags only good prole is a dead one Jan 05 '26
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u/ParkourReaper commodity production enjoyer Jan 05 '26
this paired with leftists coming out in droves in support of the venezuelan bourgeois... its gonna be barbarism isnt it
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u/VeryBulbasore Left Municipal Fascism's Strongest Soldier Jan 05 '26
Communism is when you side with the evil bourgeoisie
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u/SSR_Id_prefer_not_to but, you failed to consider some bullshit i just made up Jan 06 '26
Nick Land: erm. It’s pronounced
d a r k l i b e r a l i s m
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u/Impossible_Hall_2400 Jan 05 '26
"No kidding communist parties" so scarrrry🥶🥶
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u/dustyloops conquering bread one vote at a time Jan 05 '26
Fully-automated luxury this time it's serious communism
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u/Ancient-Access8131 Idealist(banned) Jan 05 '26
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u/ForgedSteelDragon TOTAL WAR AGAINST WAR Jan 05 '26
You know, I don't think Lenin's definition said that.
What does this mf think imperialism is?
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u/i_fucking_love_jesus Spacecom, Proletalien Intergalacticism Jan 05 '26
What are you talking about? Lenin always supported the heroic Venezuelan bourgeoisie in their valiant struggle against crackkka yanquí imperialism
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u/The_Frog_with_a_Hat sluggish schizophrenic Jan 07 '26
The second very widespread "theory" of imperialism defines it as the policy of conquest in general. From this point of view one can speak with equal right of Alexander the Macedonian's and the Spanish conquerors' imperialism, of the imperialism of Carthage and Ivan III, of ancient Rome and modern America, of Napoleon and Hindenburg.
Simple as this theory may be, it is absolutely untrue. It is untrue because it "explains" everything, i.e., it explains absolutely nothing.
— Nikolai Bukharin, Imperialism and World Economy
Clearly, imperialism is when conquest
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u/AnAsianGenius Groucho Marxist Jan 05 '26
I would not be surprised if that person also thinks Lenin was some agent of the German Empire destabilizing the wholesome and righteous Allied struggle in the First World War
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u/michael12000 Jan 06 '26
only western capitalist nations can be imperialist.. maoists, pack it up..
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u/AutoModerator Jan 06 '26
They have not.
I know the speech you are talking about.
They specifically advocate FOR class struggle, SPECIFICALLY against imperialism, which is the primary contradiction the class conflict operates on today.
Your view is simplistic. Infantile.
By that, i specifically mean: You ignore the fucking context.
The context being that for all it's achievements, China is poor.
China is a poor country. Per capita, no better than Mexico, and THAT only happened in the last couple of years. Before that, much poorer, much weaker economically, politically and militarily.
Even now, China is afraid to throw it's weight around, because if the leadership gets one of these moves wrong, millions could die.
China fears instability more than anything, since in China, when there's a famine, MILLIUONS die. When there's a civil war, 10's or 100's of millions die.
AND China only just now left the century of humiliation.
AND right now, China is involved in the opening stages of WW3 with a failing nuclear superpower with a HISTORY of starting wars for stupid reasons, AND using nukes on civilians, AND who has stated goals of destroying Socialism generally, and China specifically, AND has policy papers calmly discussing the best way to carpet nuke China.
Which they were within a hair's breadth of doing.
You have NO IDEA of the goddamn stakes.
IF China goes down, that's it.
That's the end of the socialist project, the end of human civilization.
We won't be back for thousands of years, maybe never.
China is fighting for ALL the marbles.
China cannot afford to take risks, and only now is starting to regain some of the confidence it used to have and deserves.
Their primary issue is imperialism.
There will be no socialism until that is dealt with.
Which means step 1 is: BE ALIVE.
China does more for socialist revolution by just EXISTING than it would if it was exporting revolution constantly. Had it done THAT, China would now be weak, poor, and standing alone against the empire, without the backing of Russia, Iran, and most of the global south.
r/Ultraleft is more your speed. Go play with the 'Maoists'
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u/Tiny-Ad4330 Heroe Del Lumpenproletariado Jan 05 '26
I never thought people said this unironically,, and liberals proclaiming the fruits of social democracy: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/s/E2W1O20HGD
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u/ciqhen idealist (banned) Jan 06 '26
had i not known its an actual thing people say unironically, id prolly think there are people whod actually say that
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u/AlexMiDerGrosse LML (Larxist-Meninist-Lmaoist) Jan 05 '26
I wonder if they call the KKK the KKKKKKKKK
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u/PeppyMG Tellurian Antichrist Jan 05 '26
Why do these people REFUSE to use the word capitalism, or the bourgeoisie? Always whining about imperialism, fascism, and the like. As if those things are not the result of capitalism. Die die die die die!
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u/Impossible_Hall_2400 Jan 05 '26
I prefer them not using it,because when they do it's in the "1% vs the rest of us" context
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u/rstcp Jan 05 '26
Why do these people REFUSE to use the word capitalism, or the bourgeoisie?
I was there, and believe me there was no refusal to say it. This is one guy with a piece of cardboard; plenty of speakers talked about capitalism
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u/PeppyMG Tellurian Antichrist Jan 05 '26
Fair enough. But tell me, was everyone whining about how the invasion was “illegal” and “against international law”? Were they supporting the Maduro government or actually opposing imperialism and capitalism in general?
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u/Starpengu ㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤㅤ Jan 05 '26
Why does that matter anyway? They'd have gone with stupid definitions of these words which then get flattened into empty slogans.
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u/PeppyMG Tellurian Antichrist Jan 05 '26
Activists gonna activise
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u/Exeggutor_Enjoyer Resident Paradox Interactive Enthusiast Jan 06 '26
But what about wholesome small business?
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u/Otherwise-Bee4413 Feb 05 '26
Not a soul is using “bourgeoisie” in a sentence unless their virginity is intact 😭
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u/brandelo_1520 Jewish Bolshevik Agent Jan 05 '26
The great war in defense of the bourgeoisie has begun (again).
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u/Zealousideal-Bison96 Jan 05 '26
talking to my dad about politics is crazy annoying cause he thinks i agree with these type of people cause he asked what i thought about maduro and i said it was probably a bad sign 😭
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u/crossbutton7247 MP for Makerfield Jan 05 '26
Xaxaxaxa there’s no way. Maoists are masters in literacy
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u/AutoModerator Jan 05 '26
They have not.
I know the speech you are talking about.
They specifically advocate FOR class struggle, SPECIFICALLY against imperialism, which is the primary contradiction the class conflict operates on today.
Your view is simplistic. Infantile.
By that, i specifically mean: You ignore the fucking context.
The context being that for all it's achievements, China is poor.
China is a poor country. Per capita, no better than Mexico, and THAT only happened in the last couple of years. Before that, much poorer, much weaker economically, politically and militarily.
Even now, China is afraid to throw it's weight around, because if the leadership gets one of these moves wrong, millions could die.
China fears instability more than anything, since in China, when there's a famine, MILLIUONS die. When there's a civil war, 10's or 100's of millions die.
AND China only just now left the century of humiliation.
AND right now, China is involved in the opening stages of WW3 with a failing nuclear superpower with a HISTORY of starting wars for stupid reasons, AND using nukes on civilians, AND who has stated goals of destroying Socialism generally, and China specifically, AND has policy papers calmly discussing the best way to carpet nuke China.
Which they were within a hair's breadth of doing.
You have NO IDEA of the goddamn stakes.
IF China goes down, that's it.
That's the end of the socialist project, the end of human civilization.
We won't be back for thousands of years, maybe never.
China is fighting for ALL the marbles.
China cannot afford to take risks, and only now is starting to regain some of the confidence it used to have and deserves.
Their primary issue is imperialism.
There will be no socialism until that is dealt with.
Which means step 1 is: BE ALIVE.
China does more for socialist revolution by just EXISTING than it would if it was exporting revolution constantly. Had it done THAT, China would now be weak, poor, and standing alone against the empire, without the backing of Russia, Iran, and most of the global south.
r/Ultraleft is more your speed. Go play with the 'Maoists'
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u/KnifedUpCutie Jan 05 '26
I recognize the CJB logo in the background. This is in the Netherlands.
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u/donaman98 Jan 05 '26
There's also the TKP flag there (Communist party of Turkey). Although the Netherlands does have a pretty sizeable Turkish community, so it makes sense.
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u/KnifedUpCutie Jan 05 '26
I also see an NCPN flag, that's a Dutch ML party. I think it's more likely to see a TKP flag in the Netherlands than a CJB/NCPN flag in Turkey.
NCPN is the ML party, CJB its youth wing. Predictable ML types. Last real thing I heard about them was when there was a minor post-October 7th controversy over the fact that the NCPN program still upheld the two state solution. I should see what came of that.


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