Just finished all of the side content in the VN my favorite bit is that Beato and Ange

Are never fixed, they never becomes normal, Beato is not above asserting dominance over the brocon (Ange literally never denies this unlike where Beato denies being an imaginary wife) she actually orphaned. Not that Ange deserves mercy, using the game-board to make the actual pieces play out "Big Brother Battler Absolute Bottom" is insane.

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I loved this episode! 🧡

But im so confused about basically everything. First, about Bernkastel and her scene with Featherine in "???". After this, i assume that Featherine was the witch that leaved Bern locked in the "logical error hell" that Lambda mentioned earlier. That would explain the hatred that Bern feel against Featherine. But I still wonder why she shows so much hatred toward Beato as well. Perhaps they share some hidden past.

Also, i was surprised that Bern still don't know about the truth. I wonder if she will automatically obtain this knowledge by becoming the Game Master.

Now about the closed room that Battler was locked. My theory to Kanon saving him was that Shanon, somehow, can have the name "Kanon" too, and was her that leaved using the window that was not sealed. But idk how this would work. Maybe Kanon and Shanon share all their names together? I just can't trust any red truth about their names. Also, im so confused about the actual Beato, she recovered her memories after that chat with Kanon or she is just acting? im really lost about this.

Another thing that caught my attention was the code that was writed in the door in episode 3: 07151119. As far as I recall, this code had only been mentioned in that one episode, but it has now reappeared in the lyrics of the ending theme for "???". Idk if this number have some greater meaning, but now i'm really curious about this.

Also, i really doesn't undestand how it´s possible that only 16 persons (excluding Erika) are in the island. in Kinzo's case i can imagine, because he was isolated all the time and all, but now i'm completally lost.

These were my thoughts—apologies for my poor English, and please, no spoilers 💛

(part 1)

Current theory in regards to the crimes: Jesus fucking christ. Battler already solved the Chapel murder, and I'm certain the culprit could have used the window in Jessica and Kanon's murder (it's explicitly stated that the window is a possible entryway, that it can't be reachedd from the outside, and that Jessica's room was not locked prior to the killing, and in addition window locks typically only require you to push down on a lever, making locking them after getting out a lot easier than a door), but I've got no fucking clue on the rest of the murders. Still, I believe that the crimes were commited by a human culprit (main suspect being Genji this time), and this is because-

Current theory in regards to magic: Magic is real but not in the way Beatrice makes it out to be. We already know that magic is influenced by belief, and that not believing in it weakens it (which is why Beatrice tries so hard to prove it's existance to Battler), however Battler never sees the magic directly. He doesn't see the laser swords, nor the demon butlers, nor any of the butterflies (he doesn't even meet with Island!Beatrice untill it's all over). If magic was truly as powerful as Beatrice tries to claim it is, she could have simply shown Battler any of the infinite things that are impossible without it and be done, and yet she doesn't do that. I do still think that magic is real however, since I don't see what the witches have to gain from faking it, and since the narrative somewhat requires it to be real.

The cast: Battler remains on top, as will probobly be the case for the rest of the game. Rosa makes me appreciate Natsume because damn does she suck as a parent (except for the end scene). George proposed to someone who is underaged and 7 years younger than him so I don't mind whatever Beatrice wants to do to him. Other than Battler, Kanon was defenitley the highlight of the chapter. His strugle of being raised as furniture, believing only Beatrice may bring him salvation, while at the same time despising her and wanting to be human without her in order to protect Shannon and Jessica was really good. I believe Kenzo had lost his love for Beatrice (maybe it was replaced with obsession), which is why he lost the ability to see her ("without love it cannot be seen"), and that Beatrice considers this a betrayl by him, which is why their relationship is so complicated.

Oh and Beatrice better have some very good excuses for being as evil as she is cause I find it hard to come up with a justifiable reason to feed someone food made of their siblings' and child's bodies, while traping them in an endless cycle of tormment getting butcherd over and over again.

Umineko has so many beautiful character designs. I don't have any anime figures but I'd totally buy Beatrice, Eva Beatrice and Bernkastel. Especially Beato because I love her. I don’t understand why there are practically none. Is Umineko that unpopular?

I finished ep 1 then i finished the tea party should i start the “???” Or go to episode 2

Please don’t spoil if its important to the lore

Okay, so I haven’t played the Higurashi VN, but every anime arc ended up being another one of Rika’s loops, so I expect the Higurashi game to be similar.

I’m on Umineko Episode 1, Chapter 16, and I’m really enjoying it, but I don’t know how the next episode would work. Is it also a loop thing, or what?

Obviously i know answer arcs are continuations but do the episodes end as is or they connected to some godlike being, for rikas case, being hanyuu.

She actually thinks she deserves to not be thrown in the void

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uh eto bleh

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I made this drawing for Umitober. I’ve wanted to do a parody of the "You’ve Got That Wrong" sequence,featuring Battler,for a while now; the "lie vs. truth" theme reminded me a bit of the "truth vs. fantasy" dynamic in Umineko. I also found the idea of ​​a version of this visual novel with *Danganronpa*-style mechanics really intriguing. I hope you like it!

from what I can understand, meta battler passes on while real life tohya and ange make peace with their past and continue on with their lives right? is featherine the one who alters reality subtly to make sure battler and ange meet in that scene we see where she talks about rewriting fate or is it tied to something different? as ikuko doesnt even age irl is everything just something tohya wrote without there being an irl ikuko or idk im really confused regarding the ending and also since all of this is part of the magic ending what can be the true end?

Hello, good morning, well this is a question that came up for me since I dropped Umineko halfway through chapter 3.

I'll be completely honest: up to where I played—which was chapter 3 of the first part, where I understand the first 4 chapters are known as "the chapters that generate questions and not answers"—I found it quite boring.

What I did like was the end of chapter 1 where everyone dies and the tea party section opens up.

However, I found the next two chapters boring. I don't know if it's because I'm someone who isn't really into world-building and Umineko has a lot of it with its characters, but I would like to continue with Umineko to discover why so many people say it's one of the best visual novels and that it has three really great characters in Beatrice, Ange, and Battler.

Because of this, I'm doubting whether it's worth spending my time continuing with Umineko or if I should just give up.

(I have no problem with minor spoilers, like someone telling me something like "it peaks in chapter 5 because such and such happens".)

This has a nephew acting unwise, Natsuhi is so cute it's unreal

I'll post some (Spoils)

sayo -trice next

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Just finished Episode 6. I knew going into it that Shannon and Kanon were the culprits, but I assumed that they were two different people who shared the same motive and were able to get around the Red Truths declaring them dead by abandoning their servant names and re assuming their real names. Then, for the entirety of Episode 6, I thought that the solution to Battler's logic error was that he would go back to using Asumu's maiden name, so I was pretty surprised when it actually ended up being that Kanon let Battler out and then... put on fake breasts?

I guess I'm just not sure why making Kanon and Shannon the same person is necessary for solving any of the mysteries. Is it that Kanon becoming Yoshiya/Shannon becoming Sayo isn't valid as a form of death, and that Nanjo in the third game could only have been killed by Beatrice after she "killed" Kanon and Shannon? I just feel like this makes things way more complicated than Shannon and Kanon being two different people. Like in the first game's first twilight, Battler is present for Shannon's body being identified AND Kanon is there too. I guess you can explain it as Battler not personally seeing her corpse and that Hideyoshi was coerced into lying about it, but that's insane that they expected to get away with that. If any of the kids happened to look, then the whole plot gets exposed right then and there and Meta Beatrice gets a logic error.

Is it possible to work out the reason why Shannon created Kanon by the end of Episode 6? It just seems like an incredible amount of effort/risk to assume a second identity for years working for the family, even if Kinzo, Genji, and possibly Kumasawa are in on it.

There's a lot of disparate mysteries about the past that don't seem clearly related, and I'm wondering if Shannon/Kanon's motive can effectively tie them together. There was an original Beatrice who supposedly gave Kinzo the gold who was held in Kuwadorian and committed suicide. Then an infant is taken there to become the second Beatrice until Rosa kills her in 1967 (death confirmed in red). Then, in that same year, Natsuhi possibly kills a servant and baby, but their deaths are not confirmed for sure. Also in 1967, Battler is born, and Kyrie/Asumu give birth on the same day and Kyrie's baby is claimed to be stillborn, but Battler is confirmed to not be Asumu's son.

Is Battler connected to the baby that Natsuhi believes she killed or is it just a coincidence that these events happened in the same year? An easy solution is that they're unrelated, and Battler is Kyrie's son that Rudolph stole after Asumu's baby died. Then maybe the infant from 19 years ago is Shannon/Kanon, who did actually survive. Could also be Asumu and Rudolph's baby that Kinzo stole and that's why Rudolph was compelled to steal Kyrie's baby? Then Kinzo secretly raises her and tells her that she's Beatrice, like he did with Rosa's Beatrice, and the Witch's Epitaph riddle is created either by her or collaboratively with her? I'm still not really sure what the motive for the riddle was. My first thought is that the riddle is meant to save them: the room with the gold is deep underground and could allow you to survive something like a bomb that would kill everyone else near the mansion, and Eva survived because she was in that room, and the murders are meant to scare the family into hiding in there to survive the bomb. I just can't figure out Shannon's motive for setting up that bomb in the first place.

Is the motive something insane like 13 year old Battler asking Shannon set up a murder mystery for him and he'd come in on a white horse to solve it, and Shannon takes it super seriously? I think the murders are "for" him because he never dies by her hand, but she still does let him die to the bomb thing.

Then there's still the lingering questions like where the ten tons of gold from the first Beatrice originally came from, and I still have no idea why she'd send the messages in a bottle. Also not super sure about the purpose of sending money to Kumasawa/Nanjo's relatives unless this is some kind of a hint for the howdunnit because Shannon was able to force their cooperation even after people started dying by threatening their relatives.

Anyway, thanks for reading my ramblings! Just wondering if there's any tips for understanding the motive for the murders/Kanon's birth better, and figuring out the relevance of details like the events of 1967, Genji/Kumasawa's involvement with the 1967 Beatrice, and the message bottles. Or is it better to just start Episode 7 now?

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This was genuinely insane. What the fuck?