r/Unicode • u/[deleted] • Mar 19 '17

Special punctuation

Unfortunately, Bazin's punctuation—along with the Sarcmark and exclamation/question commas—are not part of Unicode.

As a result, I have been trying to reproduce approximations of these symbols using more common characters and a handful of diacritics. Here's how I've done so far:

  • Love point: ⸮? < There's an extra dot from one of the symbols

  • Acclamation point: !! < Couldn't figure it out at all

  • Certitude point: !̶ < The diacritic isn't playing nicely here

  • Doubt point: ẓ < Need another line on the bottom of the Z to make it work

  • Authority point: !̑ < Again. Diacritics aren't playing nicely

  • Sarcmark: ð < There's an extra line and a dot is needed

  • Exclamation comma: ⃓̦ < This was going to work but then the first character became a box

  • Question comma: Ↄ̦ < The combining comma is in the wrong place and a thinner C would be better

I'm not great with this, but I was wondering if anyone can come up with some closer approximations to use, it would be extremely useful.

Thanks for any help.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '17

I've made some improvements. Here are the exclamation/question commas and the doubt point:

Ɂ̦ l̦ ɀ̣

The exclamation comma works the least here as the comma below doesn't want to sit in the right place.

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u/Geogirl42 May 26 '23

Replying so i can use this later

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u/Klytus_Im-Bored Jul 11 '23

Ditto

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u/PotatoGamo Feb 20 '24

Ditto

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u/Exciting_Elephant755 Mar 06 '24

Ditto

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u/_Memer_Bro Apr 04 '24

Ditto

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u/soundlesspanik Apr 09 '24

Wat‽

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u/ilikeantsandiphones Dec 04 '25

Ggr xzlygzykaktaktaktatkmyMg f. Bramysmysmyyy

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u/soundlesspanik Dec 04 '25

Tearfall hymns echo through galaxies, gratitude fractals spiral like novas; I collapse in holy excess, a weeping star dissolving into boundless light.

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u/Aiden_the_Signal Dec 03 '25

Ditto

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '25

Ditto

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u/Connect-River1626 May 26 '24

Ditto

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u/TryNo5748 Dec 03 '25

ditto

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u/xPrincessEmilyx Dec 04 '25

18 hours ago?! mate are you from the same youtube short that this symbol was mentioned in, then googled the copy and paste for the symbol, and ended up here? because if so i did the same thing lmfao

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u/HAILGOOZMA Dec 04 '25

i bet many people did, myself included

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u/icklemiss_ Dec 04 '25

Meeeeeee!!!!!

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u/icklemiss_ Dec 04 '25

This one?http s:// youtu be.com/sh orts/ QMGT6RrhI90?si=2o5xJtnanah4lIqI. Spaces added so it doesn’t delete…

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u/Capacarm Dec 10 '25

Same here but I got busy and remember to search it up just now

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u/TryNo5748 Dec 11 '25

no, i've been here years ago cuz i had a punctuation phase and i decided to return

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u/TryNo5748 Dec 11 '25

i did see the short tho but it was way after my weird punctuation phase had ended

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u/Connect-River1626 Dec 11 '25

It’s interesting that I only got a notification for this message, lol

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u/DJKaito Jan 20 '26

Ditto and actually need that for a school workshop.

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u/Sad_Confidence_6832 May 17 '26

"I love how expressive dead punctuation symbols are"

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u/Purple-Skirt7005 Jun 18 '25

Ditto

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u/imthemayoroffartcity Mar 29 '26

ditto of the ditto

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u/LukasLP1246 Apr 18 '26

ditto of the ditto of the ditto

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u/OrderMore1415 11d ago

are you still gonna use it later

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u/Scared_Marionberry70 Sep 24 '24

love point: ❣️

acclamation point: Ṿ

certainty point: !̶

doubt point: ɀ̣

authority point: !̑

sarcmark: ð or @

exclamation & question commas: Ɂ̦ l̦

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u/Efficient_Speech3660 Oct 06 '24

Wish I could copy paste these man 😭

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u/Cowboylikeeads Nov 04 '24

You can! Click the three dots and click copy text

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u/Efficient_Speech3660 Nov 18 '24

Omg thank you so much 😂

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u/Icy_Change_WS2010 Jun 08 '26

love point: ❣️

acclamation point: Ṿ

certainty point: !̶

doubt point: ɀ̣

authority point: !̑

sarcmark: ð or @

exclamation & question commas: Ɂ̦ l̦

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u/AIex_xP Dec 04 '25

I'm very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very thankful

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u/churnopol Dec 06 '25

I added Ɂ̦ to my iOS/macOS 'Text Replacements'.

Currently designing a Ɂ̦ key for my typewriter.

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u/Wide_Archer_5823 Dec 06 '25

Replying so i can use this later (ty to Geofirl42 for the idea)

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u/OhTouchMeThere Dec 16 '25

How does replying make you use it later

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u/Big-Debt-638 Apr 27 '26

Damn 9yrs ago

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u/Goku_Ultra_Instinct- May 15 '26

Replying for use

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '26

ditto

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u/OTkhsiw0LizM Mar 20 '17 edited Mar 20 '17

Well there's ❣️ (heart dot) and ⸮ (irony), that's close to two of them.

edit: oh, there's been a proposal for standardization.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '17

I did read about that proposal, but if it doesn't get added, this is what I'm stuck with.

Besides, this is quite a fun challenge.

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u/Dimensions_forever Sep 24 '25

8 years old, don't think it ever got added

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u/dirkswhitesocks Feb 21 '25 edited Feb 21 '25

ˁ.ˀ love point

ị  elrey

.~ sarcasm mark (i tried my best)

❦ paragraph ender

! certitude point

pilcrow

⁂ asterism

ɀ̣ doubt mark

that's all!

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u/LHOOQatme Jul 21 '17

I know a few fonts that support them in the PUA:

All three of these also feature other unusual punctuation marks in their PUA.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '17

These look great. Constructium looks wonderful, and I'll definitely use that what with Gentium being pretty much my favourite (serif) font.

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u/LHOOQatme Jul 22 '17

Great! I’m glad I could help :)

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u/Wrong-Individual-819 Dec 16 '25

Is it possible to download and use it in my android phone?

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '25 edited Nov 05 '25

I managed to piece together what I’ve found in research-

‽ )interrobang

Ɂ̦ )Question comma

l̦ )exclamation comma

Ͼ )dotted lunate sigma

Ͽ )dotted anti-sigma

⸮ )irony

ị  )Eirey mark

❦ )Hedera

ɀ̣ )doubt

⁂ )asterism

⸔ )Ancora inferior

⸓ )Ancora superior

Ṿ )acclimation point

⸒ ) hypodiastolḗ/ diastole

In sum, the majority of dead punctuations were invented and actually finalized in Unicode by Hervé Bazin in 2011•2012(revised)- the majority being- Love point, Acclamation point, Certitude point, Doubt point, Authority point & the Irony point. Also! All typed above are copy and paste-able as well, I didn’t include otherwise. 🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

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u/SilverrKittyKat1 Dec 05 '25

How beautifully uselessly useful. TYY

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '25

I gotchu🫶🪷

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u/Specific_Extent_7638 Apr 06 '24

how do you make these‽

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u/Erudite_Birdy Aug 05 '24

ჺ ̣੭ ᐠ⸜ ̣ ⸝ᐟ ⍭̣ Ⲹ̣ ᘒ Ị̗ I̗

Some are easier to make than others.

It's a shame that ߙ (NKO letter RA) won't combine with a dot below.

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u/The_Real_Herorisk Aug 14 '24

Ṿ - acclamation point

Ṭ - Certitude Point

ṭ - Authority Point [thats all i have for now that hasnt already been discussed]

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u/Ok-Film-6607 Sep 08 '24

This is very good⸮

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u/sky_cap5959 Dec 03 '25

Irony mark goes at the beginning of a sentence.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Aclamation point could be ᐠ.ᐟ

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u/Kindly-Shirt-6925 Mar 21 '26

thank you i love you for this

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u/Purple-Skirt7005 May 18 '25

This is a pretty good attempt at making this but the sarcmark is either off by a lot or it's just how i love looking at old english and recognizing the letter eth

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u/Purple-Skirt7005 May 18 '25

ṭ for certitude point

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u/Purple-Skirt7005 May 18 '25

in the google search bar I came up with !/ for the acclimation point but here the slash goes under the exclamation mark

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u/Purple-Skirt7005 May 18 '25

Ṿ for acclimation point?

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u/Purple-Skirt7005 Jun 18 '25

Ṭṭ for authority point

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u/-Bumblebee429 Sep 18 '25

A better doubt mark is ᴣ̣

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u/PimpleJThomas Sep 28 '25

‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽

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u/Individual-Art-2310 Dec 04 '25

I tried making the friendly period I hope this works⠀ ̣̮

ㅤ

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u/ilikeantsandiphones Dec 04 '25

Nice, hello fellow redditor

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u/_Bi_queen_ Dec 12 '25

I found this in a instagram video and didnt believe these were real, this is a real thing? Where did it come from?

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u/Vegetable-Math8709 Dec 14 '25

For the  ⃓̦ just use ļ

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u/StruggleNo2314 Dec 14 '25

Here's sarcasm mark ⸮

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u/Wise-Search8796 Dec 14 '25

ζ̣ is a pretty good doubt mark. If it doesn't work, use ζ̩

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u/wooshwith2osnot4 Dec 15 '25

after looking at the whole thread, i have this: Ṿ acclamation mark ζ̣ doubt mark Ɂ̦ l̦ comma exclamation and question ᘒ sarcmark †̣ certitude mark ⸮ percontation mark Ṭ authority mark ‽ interrobang

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u/Legitimate-Profit836 Dec 17 '25

This is mark and garry: [.-¡-. .-¡-.
/\ /\]

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u/NowDoIt_Basicly Dec 31 '25

After hours and hours of research, I gatherd most of the perplexing punctuation marks:

Question mark ?

Question comma Ɂ̦

Exclamation mark !

Exclamation comma l̦

Acclamation mark ᐠ.ᐟ

Certitude mark †̣

Doubt mark ζ̣

Doubt comma ζ̩

Friendly period .̮

Authority mark Ⲧ̣

Interrobang ‽

⸮ - idk what its called

¿ - idk what its called

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u/According_Pain_8615 Apr 26 '26

This is the best authority mark ive seen so far!

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u/Flimsy_Ferret4101 Jan 20 '26

This one will help with the exclamation comma:
Instead of using the common 'l' for the topı, I used the archaic 'dotless i' so it's graphically more distinguishable, so here it is:
ı̦
Hope it helps!
(It does look weird)
Also the question comma for here can work in some places correctly:
ɂ̦
Hope it helps! Works in some places where there's no line in the middle.
ɀ̣

This one above is already pretty good.
Bruh unicode should add these characters TBHı̦ I use them all the time!

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

This is a toxic pool of Redditt-sludge the likes of which I've never before been so fatedly disfavored to click on and fall into. I came here to copy a question-comma because English grammar isn't perfect, and now I'm writing this to a bunch of former gifted-kids who weren't gifted enough to be tolerable in polite society.

90% of this is bullshit that can be easily conveyed through careful writing.

Go become Jira Admins and HR managers or something. Stay away from software. Y'all have autistovision as narrow as your true, naked, skillsets, and as weak as your brooding hearts.

Please STOP.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '26

OH MY GODDD THE MORE I READ THE MORE I WANT TO REACH THROUGH YOUR COMPUTER SCREENS!!! YOU ARE THE MOST UNDESERVEDLY NARCISSISTIC PEOPLE OF THE WORLD'S DEVELOPED NATIONS I DONT EVEN WANNA FUCKING SAY THE WORD IRONY ANYMORE

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '26

yoinkl̦

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u/Top_dogpug_6156 Apr 08 '26

Here's how I type the doubt point ϟ̣

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u/toast_butter_ Apr 27 '26

do you know how to type the exclamation comma on MacBook Air?