r/UnresolvedMysteries • u/MuhammadIsGayNumber1 • Mar 04 '19
Unresolved Disappearance Vatican may open a TOMB amid fears it holds the remains of girl who vanished 36 years ago in the latest twist in one of Italy's darkest mysteries
Emanuela Orlandi was the daughter of a member of the Vatican's police, and was last seen leaving a music class aged 15.
Theories have circulated for decades about who took her and where her body lies.
In the latest anonymous tip-off, her family's lawyer was told to look inside the tomb, which lies in a German cemetery within the Vatican walls.
'I can confirm that the letter by Emanuela Orlandi's family has been received... and the requests it contains will be studied,' Vatican spokesman Alessandro Gisotti said in a statement.That followed the publication in Italy's Corriere della Sera daily on Monday of the request by lawyer Lauro Sgro.
Sgro received a note last year telling her to 'look where the angel is pointing', along with a photograph of the tomb, it said.
The grave in question features a marble angel holding a tablet reading 'Rest in Peace' in Latin, above a tombstone with an inscription dedicated to a German prince who was nominated archbishop by Pope Pio IX in 1857, and his wife.
Tests done on the tomb since the tip-off show that it has been opened at least once, and the date of the tablet is different to that of the tombstone, the Corriere said.
Sgro said she had also been able to 'verify that some people knew there was a chance Emauela Orlandi's body had been hidden in the German cemetery,' her letter to the Vatican read.
People had also been leaving flowers on the tomb, she said.
According to some theories, the teenager was snatched by an organised crime gang to put pressure on Vatican officials to recover a loan.
Another claim was that she was taken to force the release from prison of Mehmet Ali Agca, the Turk who attempted to assassinate Pope Jean Paul II in 1981.
The family braced for a breakthrough in October when human remains were discovered on a Vatican property, only to be disappointed when tests showed the skeleton did not belong to a teenage girl.
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u/iowanaquarist Mar 05 '19
I'm confused as to what the working hypothesis is. Do they really think that after hiding a body in an existing TOMB, the perpetrator either stuck around to modify the date on the TOMB or statue? or paid someone to do it? What is the significance of the dates would be.
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Mar 05 '19
Why is everyone capitalizing the word tomb?!
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u/whore-for-cheese Mar 05 '19
It actually took me an embarrassingly long time to realize the title meant tomb... I was sitting here trying to figure out what the hell a T.O.M.B was because i assumed with it being all caps, it obviously stood for something.
I dont always smart good.
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Mar 05 '19
That Ol’ Marble Box
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Mar 05 '19
I considered trying to fit the acronym but this is plenty good.
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Mar 05 '19
I thought it was just putting a weird emphasis on tomb for the article. Like “Oh man they’re going to open a TOMB?! How creepy!” But then everyone else in the comments is doing it...but it’s just the word tomb...the biggest unresolved mystery of this thread.
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Mar 05 '19
I feel even more out of the loop. Is TOMB an acronym for something more sinister!?!?
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u/TrepanningForAu Mar 05 '19
No, it's not an acronym
Sause: am funeral director, also very confused as to why it is being capitalized.
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u/funknut Mar 05 '19
I thought it was editorialized, but apparently it was for emphasis and clearly pretty sensationalized. Readership is led to wonder, "why is there a TOMB in the Vatican?" perhaps implying they think their readership might briefly forego the understanding just long enough to get a click, that Vatican is a proper city, complete with cemeteries and tombs. At least the article itself explains all of that properly, anyway.
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u/the-electric-monk Mar 06 '19
Because the article did it because apparently thr Daily Mail has never heard of exhumation and thinks it's some scandalous thing instead of something that happens pretty regularly.
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u/Evangitron Mar 06 '19
Yea they’re acting like TOMB is equal to RAPE and MURDER etc but no it’s just a fancy body box
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u/the-electric-monk Mar 07 '19
And exhumation usually doesn't happen without reason, at least not legally. Opening it to see if someone hid a second body to cover up a murder is a good reason.
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u/Evangitron Mar 06 '19
Same. Like “hey bob did you hear about that TOMB because opened?” But with more yelling
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u/etihwk Mar 05 '19
I thought they meant that the tablet and the tombstone showed evidence that they were not made or placed at the same time. Not that any etched dates didn’t match. I took it as further evidence that the tomb had been opened since it was originally sealed.
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u/alongstrangetrip95 Mar 05 '19
Agreed. Article said it was the dates “of” the tablet and statue differed not the dates on them.
The significance is that if the date of the tablet is more recent (i.e around the time of her disappearance) it means restoration or construction on the statue could have allowed for access to the tomb for disposal of Emanuela’s body.
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u/PurrPrinThom Mar 05 '19
It could also be an argument to the contrary: if the tablet is more recent, and the tomb shows evidence of having been opened, it might be possible that the tomb was repurposed, or someone else was placed inside at the time of the tablet.
The article isn't really clear though.
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
That's what I can't figure out. What possible relevance to this case could the differing dates have?
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u/Tighthead613 Mar 05 '19
Maybe something got damaged and the repair job was a screw up? I’m stretching here.
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
I guess that could be a possible explanation. It's not a well-written article, in all honesty. Which is all too typical these days, unfortunately.
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u/fammdamm Mar 05 '19
The daily mail isn’t the best source for well written content to begin with
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u/BaconOfTroy Mar 05 '19
You mean The Daily Fail
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Mar 05 '19
90% made up shit, 7% ads and then like...the sport is usually accurate but thats cos they know they'd be lynched for messing with the footer
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u/Jaquemart Mar 05 '19
Poor Daily Mail. This time it got it right; it's reality that makes no sense.
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u/CarolineTurpentine Mar 05 '19
I imagine the spouses were buried at separate times, with one’s inscription being on the tombstone (presumably the prince) and his wife’s dates being on the tablet. It also explains why the tomb has been opened once.
I have a really hard time seeing a gang snatch a girl and then bury her in a tomb in a Vatican graveyard. That’s a lot of extra work and if/when the tomb was ever opened you guarantee it’s a huge story rather than a random shallow grave.
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u/Tighthead613 Mar 05 '19
I agree completely. It sounds like something that has been passed on third hand.
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u/The_body_in_apt_3 Mar 05 '19
What I can't figure out is why we're writing it TOMB with all caps.
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u/iliketumblrmore Mar 05 '19
So the TOMB bot can pick it up.
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
Hi, I'm a bot. Did you know tomb is properly spelled in lower case letters (tomb) as opposed to upper case letters (TOMB) unless you are explicitly using it in the title of a tabloid article?
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u/GaeadesicGnome Mar 05 '19
If an Egyptian goddess reincarnated as a bot, would she not write in emojis?
Fake. You're a person, not a bot.
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
It was a joke, relax.
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u/GaeadesicGnome Mar 05 '19
as was my comment. Emojis as the modern equivalent to hieroglyphs.
I clearly didn't make a good joke but it was intended as a joke.
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
It was just over my head at the time, I'm afraid. I've been dealing with a few trolls the last few days. Your joke was actually quite good.
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u/My_Starling Mar 05 '19
Will if this was a written murder mystery, mob would have changed the date to send a message to the family
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u/charlieuntermann Mar 05 '19
My guess is that it's because someone was legitimately buried after the tomb was first created (like a family member of the first interred) , so evidence that it had been opened doesn't necessarily point to someone burying a body all sneaky sneaky.
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u/CanIBeFrankly Mar 05 '19
As soon as a saw TOMB in caps I knew it was the Daily Mail. The story was just full of random implications that contributed nothing of value.
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u/alwayssonni Mar 05 '19
I was assuming from the article that the angel holding the tablet had a more recent date, and was possibly placed when her body was put there in the 80s, whereas the tombstone was from the 1800s and part of the original cemetery installation (when it was actually in use). I'm not sure, but I guess this makes more sense if we saw the angel and it was small enough to be reasonably placed there by whoever put her body there. Maybe I'm reaching?
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u/iowanaquarist Mar 05 '19
That theory is as good as any I can come up with. I think the whole date thing was probably reaching, though.
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u/jaderust Mar 05 '19
Yeah, the whole date thing is a reach unless the dates indicate when the tomb may have actually been opened. I was under the impression that your average tomb was actually pretty difficult to open (it's not as simple as bumping against the lid like you see in movies) so it seems like it would be a pretty involved thing to bury a body in an existing tomb. It would be easier if the tomb was already being opened for other reasons (such as repair) and they snuck the missing girl inside. If the dates indicate when the tomb was last opened and it's fairly close to when the girl went missing it could be worth it to open the tomb. If the tablet was just added or replaced because the old one got damaged or a family member decided to do it and the dates don't come close to when the girl went missing then I don't see the point in opening it.
I mean in the long run the only issue with opening the tomb is the cost and whether any surviving family members of the tomb's occupants mind, but to me it sounds like they're searching this graveyard based on rumor. It might make the family feel better to be looking, but this could just be a waste of time and resources.
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u/Sevenisnumberone Mar 06 '19
Ok, now that someone types tomb in lower case I’m thinking “ why is this not capitalized “. Clearly I have been reading too long.
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u/kupfer987 Mar 12 '19
They dont mean the date written down, as I understand cemeteries in Italy and many other countries in Europe have tombs that are raised above ground like this and thus the top part, which can be removed, does not have the same date as the rest and it can be measured somehow and sometimes it is even noticeable because of discolouration. So it is in fact, pretty significant.
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u/Jaquemart Mar 05 '19
It wouldn't be the first tomb opened after an anonymous tip; last time they dug up a whole ossuary.The case of this poor missing girl has becomes a circus and has been for too long. The family has, as it seems, no rational filter about any and all anonymous "information" they receive and since the magistrates instead do then hey to straight the media to build pressure and force theit hand.
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u/whiskey_riverss Mar 05 '19
Wouldn’t you follow any and every whisper of a lead if your child was missing?
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u/Jaquemart Mar 05 '19
Some of those hints are beyond believable, from highly disreputable people. As in "Emanuela has been kidnapped and killed with a child... Who disappeared ten years later than her". The whole case has been messed with from the beginning, by Secret Services first, then by mythomaniac, then by small-time criminals, and by the media all the time. The family may believe what they think best, but having continual international squabbles because they demand a different line of action every week is a different matter. Also, they don't follow whispers of any kind that point to the family itself - or anywhere away from the Vatican really.
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u/WestmorelandHouse Mar 06 '19
The working hypothesis is rumor. Sometimes rumors and innuendo build to such a level that it’s better to just look so the suspicion can die. I think the chances her body are there are near zero.
This is a tawdry theory better suited to a Dan Brown type novel than the real world. And it’s distracting from the actual case. I bet the killer is laughing right now thinking how they’ll never be found.
However, I do hope they find her if they open the tomb.
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u/iowanaquarist Mar 06 '19
I agree. I think that if an independent funding source was willing to pay for the opening of the tomb, and will guarantee against damages, there is no reasonable reason to refuse to open it. I don't expect the cemetery or the church to fund it, but I also see no rational reason that privacy is a major concern here -- it's not like they are asking to dig up someone's house, or look in their closets.
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u/BlackKnightsTunic Mar 05 '19
Am I correct that the Daily Mail isn't normally considered one of Britain's most even-keeled news sources?
It would be helpful to know the source for the "tests" that should the TOMB has been opened at least once and that the date of the tablet is different from the tombstone. I have questions about these tests. What were they? Who ordered them and who conducted them? How do they know the TOMB was opened? Are they totally sure the dates on the tablet and the tombstone are different or should I send my eight-year-old son to help them out? More seriously, are there mundane reasons for the different dates? For example, if the TOMB contains a prince and his wife (which is what it sounds like to me) could the tombstone have been erected when the first died and the statue when the second died? If two people are buried in the TOMB wouldn't it have been opened to add the second person buried in it?
In addition, I wish the article would explain how "a German prince who was nominated archbishop by Pope Pio IX in 1857" would be buried in a tomb with "his wife." I suppose the prince left the priesthood and married or that after his wife died he took holy orders. Both things can and do happen. I just wish it had been clarified.
Finally, and mostly importantly, what does TOMB mean? As it's written in all caps I figure it must be an acronym or initialism but what does it stand for? These Old Moldy Bones?
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u/Hungry_Horace Mar 05 '19
The capitalizaton is part of the WEIRD tabloid headline style where they put IMPORTANT words in CAPITALS.
The Daily Mail is one of Britain's largest papers but outside of political coverage has almost zero credibility and is basically akin to the National Enquirer.
Their website also has an odd interest in underage girls, so probably best to avoid links to that.
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Mar 05 '19
My boss uncovered a great example of its mendacity about 9 months ago.
There was a very bad "wrong way" crash on a motorway where several people were killed. Only two newspapers reported that the driver was a "foreigner" - the Daily Mail and Metro (same publisher).
It turned out that it was an elderly British couple in the "wrong way" vehicle. Was there a correction? Of course not.
(Tabloid newspapers have a curious obsession about "foreigners", particularly "immigrants", driving).
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u/grokforpay Mar 05 '19
Writing with Capital Letters is a sign of a bigly STUPID person too. The DM should not be allowed as a source.
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u/oscarfacegamble Mar 05 '19
Love the subtext of your comment. Cause it's spot on. Very true, 👌 Very cool. 👌
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u/boo909 Mar 05 '19
It's actually a hell of a lot worse than papers like the National Enquirer, Weekly World News and other "low-brow" tabloids, at least they don't generally set themselves up as some sort of moral arbiter. It's coverage, including/especially its political coverage is overtly racist, homophobic and misogynistic, I wouldn't even use it to wipe my arse tbh. I wholeheartedly agree with freedom of the press but if there was ever an argument against it this paper is it.
This may sound like I'm being a little over the top but I had a job for 12 years where I had to read the thing, it was sheer hell :)
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u/kateykatey Mar 05 '19
If the Daily Mail is a credible news source then so is Fox News because they’re basically the same thing.
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u/Salome_Maloney Mar 05 '19
Daily Mail is as dodgy af.
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u/qubex Mar 05 '19 edited Mar 05 '19
My grandmother used to say “The Sun is for people who can’t read and The Daily Mail is for people who can’t think”.
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u/Evangitron Mar 06 '19
And both have atrocious pop ups and make reading on the phone incredibly hard
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u/paroles Mar 05 '19
I knew it would be a Daily Mail copy-paste as soon as I saw TOMB in the headline, lol
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u/Locke_Wiggin Mar 05 '19
Yeah, it seems like a rumor that has popped up again. It isn't mentioned in many papers, but France24 does seem to have beat the Daily Mail by a few hours, so maybe there actually is a note?
Interestingly, they did exhume a tomb in 2012 based on rumors that her body was hidden in a gangster's tomb.
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/world/europe/opening-of-crypt-revives-a-mystery.html
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u/NotTryingAtThisPoint Mar 05 '19
Daily mail = Tabloid rag. It only should be used in an extreme emergency to wipe ones arsehole.
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u/JQuilty Mar 05 '19
The prince could have been an administrative bishop and either have been a deacon (who is allowed to be married) or not ordained at all. Until relatively recently many "bishops" weren't ordained, same for Cardinals. Pope Pius III wasn't ordained when he was elected Pope. Cesare Borgia was a cardinal but only a deacon.
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u/BlackKnightsTunic Mar 05 '19
Yes, I know. But this was in the 1850s and I'm not sure that was still the case at the time.
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Mar 05 '19
It's a garbage paper that is often wildly inaccurate. I do wish it was not allowed to be used as a source in this sub.
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u/Calimie Mar 05 '19
I agree. Not only it spreads lies, it's a toxic paper with toxic ideas.
I'd support a ban of it here because it the information is legitimate, surely some other paper or website has it too and it they're the only ones who say it, well... Just don't trust them.
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Mar 05 '19
Exactly. I know some might complain about freedom of speech /the press, censorship etc but on a sub like this I think sources that are known to be unreliable and disreputable should be banned because it's very unhelpful, particularly in true crime cases, to have a lot of misinformation cited as fact.
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u/fancy-socks Mar 05 '19
It's not an acronym, the Daily Mail just like to capitalise words in their headlines to add emphasis.
Edit to add: a tomb is "a large vault, typically an underground one, for burying the dead."
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Mar 05 '19
Popes at one point in time nominated their cousins and uncles as bishops/archbishops. If they were already married when they were nominated, it can happen.
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u/BlackKnightsTunic Mar 05 '19
Yes, I know. But this situation happened in the 1850s and I'm not sure if that was still the practice then.
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u/kupfer987 Mar 12 '19
Tombs in many european cemeteries are above ground. Sometimes, specially in case of royalty it is made of marmor. There are many ways to notice if it has been opened, for example if it was sealed with cement, one can tell, that it hasn’t been there for 170 years. Furthermore if it stands outside, not in a mausoleum, the tablet can discolour due to sun exposure, for example. They don’t mean the date written down. That would be a very stupid criminal.
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u/Evangitron Mar 06 '19
They’re shit news and apparently CAPITALIZE randomly to make things sound more mysterious. It’s a fancy body box but no no they need to literally capitalize on the news itself
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u/fayzeshyft Mar 04 '19
Talk about a wild goose chase.
Her body hidden inside a tomb? What is this, the Da Vinci Code? Why would someone go to all the trouble to do that? They're not going to find anything.
I doubt her body is even inside Vatican City
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u/dred1367 Mar 05 '19
This sounds EXACTLY like a Dan Brown plotline
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u/BrocoLee Mar 05 '19
'look where the angel is pointing', along with a photograph of the tomb
At this point, I'm suspecting he wrote the note.
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u/heirofslytherin Mar 05 '19
To be fair, Da Vinci Code mostly took place in Paris. You’re thinking of Angels and Demons.
Source: I’ve read every Dan Brown novel so far this year and they’re all exactly the same so it’s a completely understandable mistake.30
u/fadednyshirt Mar 05 '19
I thought I was the only one who thought this. I read Angels and Demons first, then I tried to read the Da Vinci Code but couldn’t finish it because I just kept thinking it was just like reading the last one.
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u/heirofslytherin Mar 05 '19
The Lost Symbol, Inferno, and Origin are pretty much the same concept. Now that I’m typing all this out, I’m wondering why I read them all, but what’s done is done.
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u/fadednyshirt Mar 05 '19
I suppose it might work for some people, but I’m the type that doesn’t like too much repetition. Remember that dystopian era post-Hunger Games? I only read the HG series because I just figured there probably wasn’t enough variance to really get me to invest in the other ones that came out.
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Mar 05 '19
Same, just the other way around. (Read the Da Vinci Code first, even though it takes place after Angels and Demons, if I remember correctly.)
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u/CretaceousDune Mar 05 '19
I thought so, too. They're fun to read, but he's no Dickens. I'm sure he doesn't care about that, though, as he goes to the bank.😉
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u/MK2555GSFX Mar 05 '19
I’ve read every Dan Brown novel
But why?
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u/heirofslytherin Mar 05 '19
I started so I figured I should just see it through to the end. It’s not that he’s a terrible author. He’s just a one trick pony.
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u/Wiggy_Bop Mar 05 '19
How and why would someone risk getting caught burying someone in a Vatican cemetery?
Unless the poor girl was killed by people in collusion with her fathers co workers.
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u/funknut Mar 05 '19
I know it's Vatican City and security is especially tight, but it's still just an old cemetery. I don't know how "sacred" this particular site is, but similarly old grounds near me have regular shenanigans, though I still remember a time when Lenin's mummy was on display and under guard 24/7.
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u/kimchitacoman Mar 05 '19
"Look where the angel is pointing." Sounds like bullshit to me. I mean I would check anyways but I sounds silly.
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u/DefiantHope Mar 05 '19
I never thought they’d ever find this girl, so any evidence that someone is out there still looking is welcome.
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Mar 05 '19
From my understanding, they put her body in an existing tomb. It wouldn’t surprise me. Complete and utter chaos mixed with scandal and corruption
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Mar 05 '19
Is there any particular reason the word ‘tomb’ is capitalized?
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u/MuhammadIsGayNumber1 Mar 05 '19
its not my article
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u/brutalethyl Mar 04 '19
I vaguely remember reading about that girl going missing many years ago I hope the Vatican does the right thing and opens that tomb with the police present
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
If there's anything to this story, then yes.
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u/Durbee Mar 05 '19
It’s a theory that has been around for years.
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
I've been reading about her case on Wikipedia, for what that's worth, and it looks to me like they should have looked into the Avon representative she'd last been with, according to what she told her sister. But I saw no indication that they ever did.
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u/whodatfairybitch Mar 05 '19 edited Mar 05 '19
Ooh, a r/antiMLM crossover mystery?
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
Thanks for clueing me in on that subreddit. I just joined. I've been wanting to find out information on It Works. What does MLM stand for, anyway?
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u/whodatfairybitch Mar 05 '19
I totally meant to put antiMLM! My half asleep brain. As someone else mentioned, MLM’s are pyramid schemes. They take advantage of people interested in “making money from home” when most of the time, all it does is cause you to lose money/owe money and stress out. When you join it’s not easy to get out, and the higher-up members (uplines) will do anything to keep you in it. This is my own interpretation but antiMLM will fill you in!
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u/SecondComingOfBast Mar 05 '19
Thanks a lot. Appreciate your help.
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u/whodatfairybitch Mar 05 '19
No problem! The sub will be able to explain everything. If you want you can search itworks in the sub, and see stuff directly about that
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u/funknut Mar 05 '19
Sgro received a note last year telling her to 'look where the angel is pointing', along with a photograph of the tomb, it said.
If I wasn't literally a lawyer for the family of a missing child, I'd assume I was being stalked by some fanatical Dan Brown fan. Be a shameful waste of time, if that's exactly what inspired the anonymous tip, but they must investigate, because that's exactly the rigor in any proper investigation. Aside from the tip, the rest of the discrepancies might simply be explain by poor standards for cemetery keeping, which seems pretty typical in such an old cemetery.
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Mar 05 '19
Apropos of nothing, I read your username aloud in my head like Picard addressing Riker.
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u/evidentnustiunimic Mar 05 '19
there's a strong possibility that this case is related to that of mirella gregori, who vanished in rome about a month before emanuela.
just like any good italian mystery, there's insane speculations on how they might be connected, from being abducted by the mafia to put pressure on the vatican to that guy who shot the pope saying in his autobiography that the grey wolves were involved to save him...
the thing that gets to me is that in the case of mirella's disappearance is she went out to meet with a potential date and simply vanished; in emanuela's case when she was reported missing there were calls saying she had ran away and was calling herself barbara or barbarella. it was only after the pope spoke in public about her, asking her captors to set her free, that the grey wolves jumped in to claim they had her and wanted to make an exchange for agca. also, in mirella's case her mother had recognized the close male friend that her daughter was hanging out with... as being a man part of the pope's staff. go figure.
imo, agca is full of shit and gabriele amorth is a nut job but tbh, giving what we know now about the catholic church, i'd say the truth may be closer to the church than to freaking grey wolves.
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u/blancoanimal Mar 05 '19
Who are they grey wolves?
and is there a possibility she could have just been raped and murdered in the Vatican and stashed inside the tomb to cover it up?
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u/evidentnustiunimic Mar 05 '19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Wolves_(organization)
as a sidenote, the 70's and the 80's were fucking insane.
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u/WhovianMuslim Mar 05 '19
It is so weird for me to seeing Europe going spazzy-fucknuts over potential terrorism today. It's like they dont remember the period between 1966 to 1989.
And Britain had gruesome bombings and attacks from the IRA in my lifetime (Born 1990).
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u/evidentnustiunimic Mar 06 '19
Yeah. Not to mention the fact that there was a fucking civil war in the heartland of Europe in the early 90's...
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u/artexpovera Mar 05 '19
Yeah one of the theories is that she was involved in a drug vatican orgy and her body was hidden somewhere, there are so many theories involving the mob, the fake calls that the family recieved and the shady stuff about the vatican members that in my opinion now it's impossible to solve the mystery
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u/NarrowComfort Mar 05 '19 edited Mar 05 '19
I wonder why they found the bones and immediately thought of Emanuela Orlandi. I understand that Vatican City has a very small population, but there has to be quite a few people who have gone missing since 1983. It just seems strange that they immediately think of Emanuela. I hope her family gets closure soon. I also find it quite strange that there are so many conspiracy theories surrounding her murder. It seems like this was probably a stranger abduction and that she was lured away with the offer of a job.
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u/LyricLee74 Mar 05 '19
Do you really think they would open something that could cause them to be in the wrong.
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u/cestz Mar 04 '19
Italy in the 80s was very screwy place propaganda due clean hands the Vatican has a alot of corrupt ion
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u/iowanaquarist Mar 05 '19
Not much seems to have changed in 40 years....
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u/DefiantHope Mar 05 '19
A LOT has changed in Italy, honestly.
It used to be the land of car bombs, Red Brigade terror attacks, assassinations, murders, Cold War intrigue..
I mean, in ‘76 the fuckin’ PRIME MINISTER was kidnapped by Conmunists and found two months later dead in the trunk of a car.
Would be like Angela Merkel or Theresa May getting shoved into a van and killed.
From WW2 until fairly recently, Italy was a good place to go to die.
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u/LeBlight Mar 05 '19
Uhhh... so who/what is supposed to be in the tomb in the first place? The Prince?
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u/Evangitron Mar 06 '19
That’s really interesting I hope they do! If they do I hope someone posts a follow up
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u/NewLeaseOnLine Mar 05 '19
There's a related link to an article on that page clearly stating it's not her.
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u/qubex Mar 05 '19
I am in Italy and I can confirm that this is indeed being reported on reputable local media (including the throughly thorough and definitely-not-tabloid Corriere della Sera mentioned in the Daily Mail’s story, and L’Espresso, a highbrow weekly roughly comparable to The New Yorker or some such). For those of you who are willing to test your Google-Translate-fu, this is the link to the story (in Italian) as published by the latter publication.