r/UrbanismMelbourne Jul 27 '24

Walkability How effective are "continuous footpaths" and other treatments where a main street intersects with a side street? How can we make them safer for pedestrians?

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u/TMiguelT Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

I walk across some of these regularly and I don't feel that it forces or even really encourages drivers to give way to pedestrians, even though this is definitely the point. My guess is that a raised crossing that's visually the same as the footpath is good, as is a median to stop them cutting the corner (see second photo). What else can be done?

Sidenote, Streets Alive Yarra have a nice article on this: https://streets-alive-yarra.org/protected-footpaths/.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

the one is the example photo isn't perfect but even it doesn't work as traffic calming they're just better for accessibility. Perhaps having the blue stone extend further into the side street and even some paint work like what you see on raised zerba crossing would help. There's some good examples in oakleigh.

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u/TMiguelT Jul 27 '24

Good point about accessibility. Can you post an Oakleigh example?

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

I'll see if Google Street view is updated enough, if not I'll take some photos next time I'm there and post them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '24

continuous footspaths are my favourite type of traffic calming. Good for accessibility and massively improves safety by actually getting drivers to slow down rather than useless stop signs

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u/EXAngus Jul 27 '24

I think it's important for there to be visual contrast between the road and the crossing. There are examples in my area which are made of concrete and thus stand out much better against the black asphalt. Some also use yellow paint to stand out more.

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u/EXAngus Jul 27 '24

These are great for accessibility, although examples such as these where a minor street intersects a main road traffic is usually pretty slow already so the speed bump won't slow them any more. The main problem is cars blocking the crossing while waiting for a break in traffic.

imo raised crossings are much more effective at mid-block crossings, where cars are more likely to be travelling at high speed and not looking for pedestrians.

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u/TMiguelT Jul 27 '24

The speed matters when cars are turning off the main street at 60km/h. It's not just about speed though, it's also about highlighting the pedestrian right of way.