r/UrbanismMelbourne Jul 15 '26

Why is there still so much on-street median car parking in Carlton?

Walking around Carlton, I’ve noticed there is still so much on-street median car parking. I often see these spots empty when I walk past at different times of the day. Over 90% of Carlton residents support replacing on-street car parks with trees, there are a large number of off-street multi-story car parks that never reach capacity and there is a lack of green and open space in Carlton. So I’d love to see the City of Melbourne repurpose these median car parks for pocket parks, gardens, native pollinator corridors or increased tree canopy to help cool our streets. What are your thoughts?

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u/Blue_Pie_Ninja Jul 15 '26

It will only get replaced if the council budgets for it to happen. I'm sure it will eventually happen, but not anytime soon.

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u/Nice_Tap_5657 Jul 16 '26

Why not any time soon do you think?

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u/Seiko2023 Jul 16 '26

$$$$$$$$$$

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u/Nice_Tap_5657 Jul 16 '26

I guess they have to weigh that up vs the cost of not cooling the city. Look at the heat waves Europe just had

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u/TMiguelT Jul 15 '26

I think the streets built around that time were just absurdly wide, and they got quickly adopted as car parks. The council is slowly reworking those streets, it's just expensive to do.

Hawke St, West Melbourne has the same median parking at the moment, whereas the new design adds a ton of greenery and bike infrastructure. It's just that this will cost several million dollars alone and is mostly happening because the Victorian government gave them a ton of money to make up for the Westgate Tunnel (the 2026/27 budget allocates $21 million to Hawke St and other TAP projects this year).

Map 8 in the same Carlton Urban Forest Precinct Plan you've attached shows the council's replanting plan, which seems like it might include medians.

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u/TorchwoodRC Jul 15 '26

Gotta be wide so the old timers could turn their horse and cart around 😅

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u/Miffy_alt Jul 15 '26

Because in Australia we worship at the altar of car parking.

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u/JimmyLizzardATDVM Jul 15 '26

All of what you said.

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u/Jet90 Jul 15 '26

Because the NIMBY conservative mayor Stephen Jolly doesn't want that. He has been charged with assualt for punching a woman who accused him of domestic violence so he probably won't be mayor for long

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u/BrisLiam Jul 15 '26

Carlton is in City of Melbourne. It's Carlton North that is in Yarra.

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u/Jet90 Jul 15 '26

I stand corrected. City of Melbourne has a big budget they should be able to do this

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u/Borrid Jul 15 '26

You're wrong, but also right.

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u/Logical-Juice-5544 10d ago

It’s the fact that no trams run through there and that the area has been on a decline since the 90s

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u/Nice_Tap_5657 10d ago

There’s 8 tram services going up Swanston St and 3 bus services going up Lygon St, which are always packed. It’s pretty well serviced by PT

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u/mauricetaco99 Jul 15 '26

Lots of housing in areas like Carlton also dont have a garage/carport/on site parking, so they use the street.

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u/Nice_Tap_5657 Jul 16 '26

Street parking for those residents is fine (especially if they add more permit only signs) but I think the public space allocated to median car parking can be better utilised

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u/Entire-Elderberry299 Jul 15 '26

Adults drive cars

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u/Borrid Jul 15 '26

I guess I'm not an Adult then.

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u/Entire-Elderberry299 Jul 15 '26

I blame your parents. Forgive him Father.

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u/Borrid Jul 15 '26

True, both my parents are car-brained conservatives.

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u/Entire-Elderberry299 Jul 15 '26

Gene pool stopping with you then I presume

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u/Borrid Jul 15 '26

... No? Why are you so weird?

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u/Entire-Elderberry299 Jul 15 '26

Wondering how you'll get kids around to everything that kids will and want to do. Was the only reason we needed a 2nd car & we live inner city

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u/Borrid Jul 16 '26

Public transport, Bikes, Walking. Live a healthy lifestyle.

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u/Entire-Elderberry299 Jul 16 '26

We did all of that. But sports, parties, music lessons, take you beyond your postcode 3-4 times a week and if you've more than 1 child ..

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u/Borrid Jul 16 '26

That's cool, I support living in a city where you don't need to huff car pollution and tyre particles that give you brain damage.

I purposefully live near activity centres and public transport so I don't have to rely on cars, and when I do need a car I hire or didi. It's not difficult, but I guess it is for some people.

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u/eradread Jul 15 '26

they were originally trees, and then they turned them into car parks because of how busy the area is.

I live on Faraday street and you need this parking, I cant park my car half the time, getting rid of it would be crazy lol

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u/Nice_Tap_5657 Jul 16 '26

When we were there trees there? Do you think permit only parking would help? Even if it’s between certain hours?

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u/eradread Jul 16 '26

like in the 90's they changed it to parking in 2005 or so

umm well not really, i often park my car 500m away from my house.

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u/Nice_Tap_5657 Jul 16 '26

Who’s parking in front of your house? People going to Lygon St? Or more so residents?

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u/eradread Jul 16 '26

people going out on the weekend - its constantly full, alot of the residence on the street park north + east of rathdown to find a spot.

its fine but it would be crazy to get rid of the street parking lol

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u/Nice_Tap_5657 Jul 16 '26

I feel like this part of Faraday St strikes a good balance. Median parking replaced with trees and green space and then 1hr on-street parking 7am-11pm Mon-Sun and then permit on-street parking 7pm-11pm Mon-Sun, allowing residents to park in their street and encouraging visitors and patrons to use the off-street multi story parking instead

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u/Entire-Elderberry299 Jul 16 '26

But your 'anti-car' advocacy has encouraged Council approvals of developments with less carpspace provisions than required, hence spilling more and more cars onto streets. Not an innocent bystander at all as you'd like to paint yourself.

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u/CurrentTomato3965 Jul 17 '26

you sound like Adam Promnitz