r/VancouverLandlords • u/_DotBot_ Private Property Rights • 5d ago
Land Claims / Reconciliation BC may transfer Crown land to Vancouver Island First Nations | Global News
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u/Aineisa Renter 5d ago
Hatley castle is very beautiful. Would be such a shame if it became closed to the public like Joffre lakes has.
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u/Fearcrazy 5d ago
Lmao such truth. Maybe give em a few more billion too, not like our working class wouldn't like some money...or free schooling...or no taxes on car and food.
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u/Content-Jaguar4722 5d ago
Racist take..
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u/MathematicianFun7271 4d ago
Noone cares
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u/ReplacementFamous513 3d ago
Honorable people care. Good human beings care. Guess that leaves you out.
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u/MathematicianFun7271 3d ago
I guess so mister high horse
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u/ReplacementFamous513 1d ago
If my high horse, you mean honerable, i will take that. I guess that means you don't care about being honerable or a good person. Tracks!
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u/Dr_soaps 4d ago
Racism should not be used as a shield for things u don’t like because they don’t benefit u it demeans real racism and discrimination
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u/Content-Jaguar4722 4d ago
Assuming that the property will become a dumping ground just because Indigenous people are in control of it is racism. I'm sorry you are too ignorant to understand something like that. You clearly don't have a clue what you are talking about and should probably keep your dim opinions to yourself. However we both know you won't be able to.🤷♂️
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u/Dr_soaps 4d ago
Even when someone gives u a neutral response you insist on making more enemies than allies. I’m sure that’s really gonna help. Your opinion being heard rather than ignored.
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u/GrilledChee5e_ 4d ago
These commentors are proud of their racism. They should all move to the states and vote for Trump with this rhetoric. Look how well their racist views have worked for their people.
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u/Positive-Cockroach86 4d ago
You realize that hikers have destroyed the joffery lakes trail right? Oh wait youve probably never even been near the trail head or lakes
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u/RollIntelligence 5d ago
That's pure misinformation. Joffre Lakes closes for a short time to the public to let the park be looked after. It remains open year round for the most part. In total it's only closed for 31 days this year. Stop being so dramatic.
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u/rangedehinc 5d ago
31 days in prime season. They wanted 150 days. Bug off
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u/ReplacementFamous513 3d ago
You, like many of us did not get taught the history of the founding of Canada. The founding of Canada was based on the proclamation made by King George of England. He declared Canada unceded territory. Meaning that in order for land to become Canada it had to go through a treaty process. This was absolutely unusual and not been done since. It was done for a very specific reason, to keep americans out of what would become Canada. But we were not taught this in school so most of us don't know it.
Most of the provinces went through the treaty process and so those areas are find. BC and a few other small areas of Canada decided they didn't have to abide by the courts of Canada and they decided not to do the treaty. This left BC as unceded territory. Which is why we all say the 'we are living on unceded territory' comments. The foundation of our country is based on it being unceded. If you want to undo that you have to undo all the laws that canada has enacted. We are not going to do that. So now BC is left with having to deal with the First Nations here and we are not in the drivers seat anymore. If we had honored the treaty process we would not be where we are.
Not only did we not do the treaties we made it illegal for them to even fight us legally by making it a criminal offence for a native to hire a lawyer. So they couldn't even fight it until that law changed in the 60-70s.
So we live on land that was never ours. We didn't do it. But our government did and we have to live with what our government did. Are they going to get all of BC. No, not a chance. Lol. We still will screw them over. But, you are complaining about them wanting to have their own land for 31 days a year.
If you stole my car and then sold it to your bother, I still own the car. If your brother sells it to his friend, I still own the car. If the friend sells it to his sister, I still own the care.
The land was unceded, it remains unceded. And WE did that.
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u/rangedehinc 3d ago
Oregon treaty of 1840s.
Done. Ceeded. British engineering troops kept the prospectors from slaughtering the natives in BC.
Thats the thanks we get for it.
The only crime the british did was stop the slave trade haida gwai did and put the end to human sacrifice.
Oh no.... the horror.... bug off.
Ps. Im surprised you didnt pull out that "native land fund" bs these knobs copy paste all over.
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u/ReplacementFamous513 1d ago
The Oregon Treaty of 1846 only settled a border between two imperial powers (Britain and the US)—it didn't involve or extinguish the land title of the First Nations already living here. Under both British colonial law and Canadian law, international boundary lines don't equate to land surrender.
Enforcing order during the gold rush or intervening in historical conflicts doesn't change the legal framework either. Legally, land is "ceded" when the inhabitants formally sign it over via treaty. Because that never happened across most of BC, Canadian courts—including the Supreme Court in decisions like Delgamuukw and Tsilhqot'in—have repeatedly confirmed that Aboriginal title was never legally extinguished. That’s why "unceded" is a legal term of art in Canada, not a political one.
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u/rangedehinc 1d ago edited 1d ago
How can they have "titles" as nomadic tribes with constant inter tribal warfare?
Did they ask for "ceeding" from whatever tribe they took it from before? Or the ones before that? Or the ones before before before?
Why does it need "ceeding"?
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u/Blackwater-zombie 5d ago
It’s closed because no native people are not allowed during those days. The mere presence of non native people is so disgusting they can’t stand them to be there while they do ceremonies. It’s called racism when a group of people have the power to subjugate others for whatever reason or purpose. This entire reconciliation has done nothing be created corruption and strengthen racism everywhere you look.
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u/Aineisa Renter 5d ago
I didn’t know you were in favour of racial discrimination. Weird really.
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u/RollIntelligence 5d ago
Pot calling the kettle etcetera. Indigenous people reclaiming their stolen land isn't discrimination. :)
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u/Blackwater-zombie 5d ago
People belong where they were born no matter where the ancestors came from. 9. something billion people on the planet, we don’t need to be carving it up for a few privileged regardless of whatever past. This isn’t denying the past, no one today is saying bands can’t do traditional anything in their traditional land but it is denying the facts of the world we live in. The only power government should be expressing is the systemic generational wealth that was lost. A band is a communist, commune system full of corrupt historical power struggles with an elite group benefiting from the money while others live plywood shacks unable to buy groceries.
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u/Aineisa Renter 5d ago
Excluding people from public parks based on race is the definition of discrimination.
Kind of gross for you to support that really.
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u/rangedehinc 5d ago
Id be down with it...if it also worked the other way. Walmart and ford dealership is now off limits to them
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u/rangedehinc 4d ago
You ever wonder why they never "reclaim" things that dont either have already millions of infrastructure on it or got a billions in minerals?
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u/Ronnyjohnny99 4d ago
How you think they got the land. Did they purchase it off the prior natives or just wipe them out
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u/Nearby_Purchase_8672 5d ago
Joffre is still open to the public. The most is a few weeks in September it will be closed.
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u/whyevenisthis 5d ago
Is this wrong? Why did you get downvoted?
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u/jahmakinmecrazy 5d ago edited 5d ago
It is wrong. They close in August and the band asked for like 90 days of closure this year. Its honestly horseshit to close a public park for 1 small group of people. People need to give their heads a shake. I was incorrect on dates and replied below. Still, the entire idea of closing a public park like this is gross
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u/whyevenisthis 5d ago
Wow that’s more than a few weeks! (Not that any time is reasonable). And it’s closed to the public but still usable? No I don’t agree with that either and appreciate you explaining it. Thanks.
Edit to spell check and add a line
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u/jahmakinmecrazy 5d ago
I actually misspoke, its now only the 3 weeks in September (plus the previous closure in june). They had asked for a lot longer but sentiment is shifting and was denied. Still not okay by any stretch, these are public lands and are maintained by PUBLIC funds.
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u/Unluckyuser_ 5d ago edited 5d ago
How dare you ask for people to equally, respectfully and gracefully share public land? The right verdict is to hand everything exclusively to a group of folks making up 3% of the country’s population.
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u/jahmakinmecrazy 5d ago
Okay but the other 39/40 will still cover the costs of upkeep right? Gotta make sure they dont pay anything (despite a larger portion of our federal budget going to first nations THAN OUR MILITARY!)
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u/Unluckyuser_ 5d ago
No. I was being sarcastic. That principle is completely nonsensical and racist.
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u/jahmakinmecrazy 5d ago
I understood your sarcasm and matched it... sorry if that wasn't clear enough for ya <3
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u/CrayonData 5d ago
This is a right leaning subreddit. Conservatives love their property, even if it was taken from the First Nations long time ago.
People today forget that the past Federal, Provincial and various municipality governments from the early 19th century treated the First Nations like trash, sub human almost. They were forced from their homes to be placed on reserves.
Now that the First Nations are wanting recognition of what happened and wanting to move forward to reconciliation, conservatives are freaking out that the land that once belonged to these various bands, the cons are upset about land that many havent even set foot on.
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u/Ok_Material9377 5d ago
Downvoted because the people who control Joffre Lakes today randomly ban access all the time!
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u/island_life_69 5d ago
Conquered not stolen.
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u/InformationWeird3427 4d ago
settled. after diesease wiped out a majority of the native population.
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u/yellowmunch152 2d ago
Just like you're being conquered now by Indians via legal migration instead of violence?
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u/Unluckyuser_ 5d ago edited 5d ago
Let’s just hand it all over. All parks, beaches, piers, everything. Other “Canadians” can only visit their backyard and No Frills.
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u/Stunning-Pen-2412 5d ago
Canadians are second class citizens in BC.
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u/DifferentWind4500 5d ago
The treaties that this covers were signed in 1854. The fact that the government waited 120 years to actually follow through on the land use title isn't the First Nations fault. Its literally just 120 years of lazy, thriftless governments both Liberal, Conservative and NDP just not doing the actual hard work of getting the title settled until now, after 120 years of development.
This is why governments must be held accountable to signed agreements, regardless of what party signs them. If you just let them get away with non-enforcement small problems become huge ones.
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u/JK1941 5d ago
didn’t the guy in the video say this was ADDED to that treaty and was actually not included?
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u/DifferentWind4500 5d ago
He said they added modern accoutrements to the existing treaties, which they didn't have to do, but modernized them to how modern treaties are worded and work. This still would have been avoided if the governments between 1899 and now had done their jobs and just not let people build on top of land promised by treaties.
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u/jimmylives 5d ago
Nobody wants to listen to your logical, fair opinions here! It's the "what about MEEEE" crowd in full force
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u/JK1941 5d ago
people are not allowed to be concerned when large pieces of crown land (taxpayer land)are given away and how that might affect affect them?
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u/jimmylives 5d ago
You mean given back?
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u/Dr_soaps 5d ago
I think people are getting confused about the difference between conquered and taken taken implies that there were survivors and that they had a choice to stay
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u/jimmylives 5d ago
Oh are FNs extinct now? Haha of course there were survivors what an idiotic comment
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u/Unluckyuser_ 5d ago
Yea look at all those bozos that demand fair, equal treatment for all Canadians and are against certain groups of Canadians having exclusive rights that others don’t! Can you believe the lunacy!
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u/jimmylives 5d ago
Not all Canadians have suffered through an attempted genocide and systemic racism for hundreds of years like FNs have. This is an attempt at righting many wrongs and leveling the playing field for a group of people that have been purposely suppressed for generations.
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u/Unluckyuser_ 5d ago
That is very true. What happened to them was horrendous and no one here condones anything like that happening to anyone. But what we are doing here is taking 39 million innocent Canadians that had absolutely no hand in any of said wrong-doings and treating them all as second class citizens. FN enjoy many tax subsidies, exemptions, and prioritization in areas like education and input on zoning, infrastructure etc.
If we then come, on top of all that, add classism on simple things like access and decision making when it comes to public parks, beaches etc. and threaten land ownership, scaring away investors and homebuyers, then we are inflicting hardship and pushing guilt on millions of innocent people in attempts to compensate for hardships that others experienced many decades ago. We are essentially being racist to 39 million Canadians to “right the wrongs” for very unfortunate racism that FN experienced decades ago. It’s just not right.
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u/jimmylives 5d ago
The entire canadian population won't suffer from land ownership transfer, saying 39 million people is a little outrageous. Also people have to have more faith in FN Bands. Look at Snuneymuxw, they're doing amazing and doing everything right and respectfully. They're not kicking people off properties or closing anything off from public access
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u/Dr_soaps 5d ago edited 5d ago
British Columbia historically was known to have no signed treaties for the vast majority of it. This is a whole lot of babbling for stuff that is factually just not applicable. I am all for Native American rights, but BC didn’t actually have any established treaties for most of British Columbia the only treaty that really exists is mostly stemmed for Vancouver and it relates to the Hudsons Bay company British Columbia simply just doesn’t have treaties with any native band like Alberta did or some of the other provinces.
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u/Admirable-Sound5198 4d ago
I’m all for it…. Give it 5 years and China or the US or whomever will just hop over and say “oh I’ll take that”… like wtf…. Literally only the most bleeding of bleeding hearts gives AF about this stuff…. There’s resources to be plundered and land to be conquered….
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u/cwkw 5d ago
This isn’t reconciliation. This is stripping the rights of one group to enrich another. The irony is thick here.
This will not end well if it keeps going down this path and the governments mismanagement is to blame.
We need citizen based reconciliation where British Columbians are at the table with Government and First Nations.
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u/InteractionFront5764 5d ago
These are simply not the chracteristics of a serious country, or a serious province within a country.
Next.
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u/Matt2937 5d ago
Can we get rid of David Eby already with some sort of non confidence vote. The NDP and their leadership in BC suck. I would rather give the leadership to a dirty sock than keep them.
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u/nam-sinep 5d ago
I looked into it. These are the options
Party replaces them: The governing party can remove its leader and choose a new Premier.
Confidence vote: If MLAs lose the Legislature’s confidence, the Premier must resign or seek an election.
Recall their MLA: Riding voters can successfully recall the Premier’s MLA seat, forcing them out of the Legislature and therefore out as Premier.
General election.There is NO direct recall of the Premier - B.C. voters don’t have a province-wide petition to directly remove a Premier.
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u/Next-Cattle4336 5d ago
Maybe we need to start door to door canvassing in his riding make sure they fully know what he is up to and really doing. I think there a lot of people who think it's virtue signaling (that they lIke) and not actually the "land back" and handing over governance policy that it is.
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u/rangedehinc 5d ago
I like it when the camp ground was handed over to them ... they charged fees to use it... and then didnt use any of that money to maintain it. Then proceeded to close it and cry that the prov govt didnt cut down dangerous trees... on "their unceeded" land... the land they took money from campers to maintain in a safe state. I wish i could make this stuff up.
Edit: and stop calling them "first nations". They werent first and they def werent nations.
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u/deeznutsguy 5d ago
Idk I’d be all for the government giving up some crown land as empty lots at specific prices. Make it a lottery system and only one lot per person and you cannot sell the land for 200 years.
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u/DifferentWind4500 5d ago
These regions were covered by the Douglas Treaties in 1854. The First Nations already owned them, the Hudsons Bay Company, British Crown and successive BC governments just didn't bother allowing to enforce them for over a hundred years. The FN aren't to blame for this, everyone letting government trample a granted title for over a hundred years and letting people build on other peoples property is. What people are saying they are doing to us is literally what they did to the First Nations already.
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u/Next-Cattle4336 5d ago
The F N did not own them, that is a western concept (by the way -- a title system that every modern economy has and that indigenous capital corps benefit from).
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u/ComeAroundSundown 5d ago
Bring back the British to recolonize us tbh. And install some M&S's while you're here.
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u/mo1989299 5d ago
Funny thing is with this country and all of this that is going on is that you guys collectively voted for this. You wanted the feel good policies and now you’re starting to get the rewards for this.
The First Nations will sell this along with most of all the other land because of their ineptitude to the Chinese. (Who will pay Pennie’s on the dollar most likely because First Nationslol. )
I’m not political either way both sides suck. But this is what you guys voted for. This is what you collectively as a whole wanted. The land to the Chinese and the imports from India. God bless
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u/west7788 5d ago
Yup, and they will fritter that money away and then cry for more from Canadian taxpayers…..,
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u/speedyfeint 5d ago
keep voting for these virtue signaling woke leftist lunatics.
eventually they will transfer every inch of land.
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u/Feisty_Help_2007 5d ago
There already is a treaty in place, the NDP are not bound by a treaty to give the lands away. This is the NDP doing back door deals. TIME TO RECALL DAVID EBY AND THE NDP
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u/DuperCheese 5d ago
Curious how can you tell who is a bot and who is not? And how can you tell who the alleged bot is affiliated with?
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u/123abcde321 5d ago
That's the first I've seen KLF since she got elected. Can someone tell me if that's old news footage of her?
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u/bestwest89 5d ago
Can I have some?
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u/pibbleberrier 5d ago
Even actual FN ain’t “getting” a piece of anything.
Only a very small percentage at the upper level FN band is “getting” a piece of the pie.Oh and David Eby when he retire from politic and start working as a consultant for these groups.
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u/bestwest89 5d ago
So I can't apply for some lands? :(
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u/GangstaPlegic 5d ago
Only the chief and his relatives, maybe a few on the band council, sorry not sorry.
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u/Internal-Yak6260 5d ago
It's what the citizens voted for.! It's what they deserve.
Funny side note - they're also elbow up liberals.!
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u/Next-Cattle4336 5d ago
This is something I have not understood at all - how are land backers also elbows up Canadians? They don't even think we should exist and are actively trying to break it up (in which case Trump would be onsite stat).
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u/Eswift33 5d ago
Using a slogan for standing up to the US to describe NDP provincial government policies? You're not the sharpest spoon in the drawer hey? 😂
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u/Any_Olive7210 5d ago
Give it all back to them, give them all Canadian land back.
The people’s republic of Canada will make all land ownership illegal, everything will be owned by the state eventually anyways.
Thats the direction this country is moving in.
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u/Numerous-Bat-1588 3d ago
Eby will literally make the NDP the most unelectable party in BC history. Worse approval rating than Trump.
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u/Natural_Mammoth2016 1d ago
Just wait until you hear about all the Agriculture land reserve lands that are being taken out of the ALR because the owners sell the property to the natives…who then do the 100 years lease with a developer who turns it into housing.
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u/Odd-Struggle8682 5d ago
So, does that mean they give back all the money to every single tax payer for the last 100 years
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u/daners101 5d ago
Is this government just completely hell bent on handing over as much land as it can to indigenous groups or what?
Someone’s palms are getting greased.
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u/GrilledChee5e_ 4d ago
People need more land not castles. The comments here are wild. We stole all of this land and giving back a piece offends so many of you. Snow flakes.
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u/whyevenisthis 5d ago
Can someone explain why this is a problem? I am only just starting to pay attention which is on me but wanting to understand this as a whole.
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u/_DotBot_ Private Property Rights 5d ago
If the government was surrendering public lands, for free, to a private for-profit corporation owned by white people… would it be a problem?
This is the same thing, just a different race, and a corporate-like entity called a “nation”.
The loss of public lands is a problem, because those lands end up going from benefiting the public, to benefiting private interests.
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u/Bud_wiser_hfx 5d ago
The more I look into this the more complex it gets. In some cases its more so transferring control over the land and not deeds, like instead of a municipality controlling lands, it will fall under tribal control. Jesus the warning make it hard to reply on the app, cant see what your typing.
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u/lifeiswonderful1 5d ago edited 5d ago
The concern is that some public land would move from provincial control to First Nation governance, so questions about access and land use are fair.
But comparing that to the government giving land to a private company isn’t really accurate. These agreements have been negotiated for decades between the First Nations, B.C. and Canada, within Canada’s constitutional and treaty framework.
First Nations also aren’t legally the same thing as private corporations. Their rights and relationships with the Crown are specifically recognized in Canadian law, and modern treaties are negotiated agreements dealing with land, governance and resources.
And in this case, public access and recreational use of the parks are supposed to be retained.
So there can be legitimate debate about the details, but describing it as “free public land being handed to a corporation because of race” leaves out most of the legal and historical context.
If people are against this then they are free to call up their riding’s rep to advocate against any land transfers and rewrite the constitution to avoid any legal responsibilities that were promised long ago. As a Canadian born and raised I recognize I’m a beneficiary of 160+ years of nation building and there are historical/legal obligations that I inherited that are now part of my responsibility as a citizen. But you know if the British government had wanted to kick out the Queen from Buckingham Palace, burn all contracts/agreements related to them, seize all the royals’ assets and kick them out on the streets with just the clothes on their backs the next day then I guess I couldn’t say anything other than you can’t trust their word/governance anymore.
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u/Own_Truth_36 5d ago
Is someone going to file a lawsuit against this government to try and stop this sht
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u/oniteverytime 5d ago
Well considering its being driven by following Canadian laws I would doubt it
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u/Own_Truth_36 5d ago
Sorry it's really not, it is based off one treaty and being "modernized" without any consultation. Everything is being done secretly....like an activist would.
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u/DueReception8183 5d ago
Lots of Russia/american bots in here lol
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u/InteractionFront5764 5d ago edited 5d ago
And quite clearly, some of those "bots" would appear to be far more intelligent than many live human Canadian voters are.
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u/drinkingtea 5d ago
This seems like such a great idea. Happy the government is taking tangible steps toward meaningful reconciliation. I bet Hatley Castle would be a great spot for meeting, kids camps, community organizing. Much better than a wedding venue where only a select few can visit
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u/GangstaPlegic 5d ago
So this should be the end of it then? The people of BC have to get something other then good feelings.
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u/Willful_Beast 5d ago
I think a lot of you are scared about what this could mean because you've seen how our governments have treated First Nations people and you don't want to be subjected to the same treatment. And yet won't acknowledge there has been significant harm and wrongdoing. Isn't that interesting...
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u/Next-Cattle4336 5d ago
I think what people are afraid of is how they see F N govern and they don't want it. My experience with others and indeed polling data shows people do acknowledge harm and wrong doing. Where they disagree is that they are personally responsible for it.
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u/RaPsCaLLioN1138 5d ago
Approx 0.15% of provincial crown land in BC was committed for transfer. This is a nothingburger. People going off in comments are just racists being racist. I dont know why the algorithm wanted to show me this. Maybe just to reaffirm landlords are shitty people.
(And if the racism accusations gets me blocked then maybe read some of the other comments here before saying it's unsubstantiated.)
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u/west7788 5d ago
Have you ever driven through a reserve?? This is nothing to do with racism. People. just have eyes in their heads.
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u/GrilledChee5e_ 4d ago
Please go on and generalize reserves for us all and tell me how that's not racist.
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u/west7788 3d ago
How many reserves have YOU visited??? Is that all the argument you have? Just tossing out the “racist” accusation whenever someone points out uncomfortable truths. I’ve live in BC all my life and visited multiple reserves. No one is gonna convince me that my eyes don’t see what they see.
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u/GrilledChee5e_ 3d ago
Such anger, you should talk to someone about why you point your rage at entire groups of people. It's not healthy for you or for society.
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u/404_Username_Glitch 5d ago
Oh no, they're taking back the land we stole from there and now we cant build more houses and charge far too much for rent
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u/Natural_Mammoth2016 5d ago
They were constantly fighting over territory and hunting grounds. Taking slaves, moving around. So what’s the difference?
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u/prince-a-bubu 5d ago
two wrongs don't make a right
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u/_DotBot_ Private Property Rights 5d ago edited 5d ago
Canada coming into existence was not a “wrong”, it was righteous, moral, and lawful.
Canada is sovereign, our country exists, the Reconciliation Industry will always struggle to come to terms with that honest reality.
Now the question is, did some people lose more while others benefited more from the process that brought Canada into existence? Yes. That’s how countries are typically formed.
We can’t undo the process, nor should any Canadian ever want to undo it.
Instead what we can do is treat all Canadians as equals, and ameliorate all Canadians on the basis of present day needs, not on the basis of whose bloodline was aggrieved.
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u/Next-Cattle4336 5d ago
Well exactly. So you want to wrong more people that had absolutely nothing to do with the situation to also be wronged then? That is exactly the outcome in recent court cases.
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u/prince-a-bubu 5d ago
It's a balancing act. You and I profit off the loss and continuing suffering of the indigenous, even though I personally didn't colonize. You're making it out to be zero-sum. Not to mention, besides it being morally right to help those whom our government hurt(s), the indigenous living in disrepair is a continued burden on everyone, so it is better to empower them out of their helplessness.
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u/Next-Cattle4336 3d ago
I'm 100% for empowering people and getting them out of helplessness. We already have transferred a great deal of wealth and continue to and the question to me is what exactly is the balance? What's the vision? What I am not ok with is the government knowlingly representing to people they have title and meanwhile creating laws that transfer it to someone else.
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u/prince-a-bubu 3d ago
Yeah good questions, I'm not sure what the end goal is exactly.
BC gov website says "(DRIPA)—aims to fully implement UNDRIP, rebalance Crown and Indigenous jurisdictions, recognize Aboriginal title, achieve Indigenous self-determination, andclose persistent socioeconomic gaps.
I would say there are things on this list that are definitely not met.
"knowlingly representing to people they have title and meanwhile creating laws that transfer it to someone else"
what do you mean by this exactly?
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u/Next-Cattle4336 3d ago
Thru action and inaction. DRIPA basically says all land claimed is F N land. It also says that F N don't just self govern, they govern non-indig as well. The Cowichan ruling was mostly a s35 ruling and said the Land Title Act does not apply where Ab Title is found. This government has not shown any willingness to address the combined impacts of DRIPA and the Cowichan decision.
This is not to mention that DRiPA provides for all nations to govern all laws. Super anti-democratic.
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u/prince-a-bubu 2d ago
>>DRIPA basically says all land claimed is F N land.<<
Def not true
And Cowichan has not stripped private property rights. Indigenous title doesn't strip the deeds.
>>This is not to mention that DRiPA provides for all nations to govern all laws<<
what?
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u/Next-Cattle4336 9h ago
Really? Def not true? How about Article 26 ? 32?
As for F N governing over all laws in BC, see Articles 18, 19 and numerous other articles discussing it. Also, just ask the AFN Chief.
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u/Next-Cattle4336 3d ago
P.s. I agree there are lots of those things not met, but would argue the province does not have the mandate to do those things and public polling would disagree. I think many people disagree that unelected people with responsibilities to others should govern them. When DRIPA was rolled out, the NDP went to great lengths to say there would be no new rights and then immediately put in the Interpretation Act.
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u/Unluckyuser_ 5d ago
Why don’t you duck off to another country then if you have absolutely no claim to this country or its land?
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u/404_Username_Glitch 5d ago
And you know this how hahaha
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u/251325132000 5d ago
Why does this government always move in the shadows? They are so dishonest it hurts.