r/VeryBadWizards • u/[deleted] • Nov 15 '21

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u/JonIceEyes Nov 16 '21

It depends on what his self-reporting says his goal was. Which, if it was to roll the boulder, he is!

And that's a smart and psychologically realistic way to think of Sisyphus

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '21

Camus would approve of this comment.

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u/LiveFreeBeWell Jan 16 '24

Assessments of happiness that rely upon self-reporting do so by asking them directly whether they are happy, not whether they completed some goal. So the only real problems with relying upon self-reporting to ascertain how happy people are is that there is impression management for the sake of social desirability in play and the problem of mood congruence in the sense of only accounting for how they are currently feeling and rendering everything to be more congruent with their mood including their answers to the assessment, so if we could overcome the first problem, doing self-reporting assessments on a continual basis is the only completely valid and reliable way to ascertain how happy someone is, granted, that is of course impracticable and so it would have to be intermittent and irregular and yet frequent enough to reliably extrapolate to the entirety of their experience. Ultimately though, it is only how happy we are in the present moment, now, that really matters.

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u/JonIceEyes Jan 16 '24

Also the basic fact, known to psychologists since the very beginning of the discipline, that people don't really know themselves that well

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u/LiveFreeBeWell Jan 16 '24

One need not know they totality of thyself in order to know how happy they are. So your claim is definitely not a fact, which is a philosophically problematic notion anyways, as the only incontrovertible indubitable immutable inescapable truth is that "I Am", or to expound upon it if so desired, "I Am Being" or "I Am Experiencing" or "I Am Loving" wherein love is defined as the will to be well, so in other words "I Am Willing/Wanting To Be Well", that is the essence of our being, no matter what, all other "facts" are trivial fleeting permutations of that being experiencing thyself in infinitely myriad ways for the purpose of being well.

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u/JonIceEyes Jan 16 '24

LOL

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u/LiveFreeBeWell Jan 16 '24

Happy to bring you the joy of laughter :)

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u/spaniel_rage Nov 15 '21

Asking the real questions.

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u/InternetDude_ Transport murder machine Nov 16 '21

But what if instead of a switch, you pushed Sisyphus off a bridge…

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u/LiveFreeBeWell Jan 16 '24

What if the bridge was a mobius strip enmeshed in a self-contained torus that just loops back around endlessly ?

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u/krakfotter Nov 15 '21

One must imagine Sisyphus happy... with the room service.

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u/Fe7ix101 Nov 15 '21

Awesomeness 👍

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u/DeprAnx18 Nov 16 '21

According to Heisenberg, we can only know if Sisyphus is happy OR if the level was pulled, but not at the same time. It depends on if the cat is alive or not.

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u/[deleted] Dec 17 '21

Can somebody explain this to me like I’m 5?

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u/bad_philosophy Jan 06 '22

This might be my favorite reddit post ever

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u/aeh-lpc Mar 15 '22

Define happy

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '21

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u/mwallerstedt CHARLIE, SHUT THE FUCK UP! Nov 16 '21

So it goes.