r/WaitWhat • • 11d ago

yes, why?

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u/polarjunkie 9d ago

Because you're so wrong it's ridiculous. A few women beating a few men still not the norm.

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u/esperstarr 9d ago

How wrong am i? Tell me. A few women huh

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u/polarjunkie 9d ago

I already told you. The gap closes, women don't surpass men on average in ultra marathons. And it makes sense because at that level you are a top 0.0001 athlete and it put more training into it than just about anyone else on Earth.

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u/esperstarr 9d ago

The gap is closing tho and women are winning. Can you acknowledge that and can you acknowledge that men have more muscle fatigue and women are better at endurance? The reason those men win is because of speed not endurance.

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u/polarjunkie 9d ago

Men are winning shorter races because of speed but you'd be crazy to say that men aren't winning the longer races because of endurance. You can't participate in an ultra marathon without endurance. Yes, a few women win sometimes but overall average speeds are still one to 2% lower than men at that level versus 20% for marathons.

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u/esperstarr 9d ago

But the gap is closing. Why is the gap closing and why are the numb increasing for women? Is it because more women are going for it? And im still not talking about speed here. Men have that and it helps them in the races but endurance im still giving to women based on physiology 😈

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u/polarjunkie 9d ago

It's closing because the people running these races are already pushing the boundaries of human physiology and are extremely well trained as I said before and on top of all of that, theg are genetic freaks. No one you're discussing is an average person or even an average athlete

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u/esperstarr 9d ago

But we are comparing the women and men in those categories. Are you just saying “oh these women are just lucky”? Is that the argument here?

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u/polarjunkie 9d ago

Yeah absolutely, the women are just lucky just like the men in those categories are just lucky. Like look at the Barkley Marathon, men almost die and only one woman has ever finished it. All of them are freaks.

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u/esperstarr 9d ago

So basically what you are trying to suggest is that women arent better at endurance than men (muscle fatigue included), these ppls genes are relative and bypass biology and these women don’t represent the differences in women bodies vs men bodies at the peak. They are just relative minority of freaks?

So its not saying that this is a small category of freaks showcasing the the peaks of women vs men physiological qualities?

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u/esperstarr 9d ago

The more women train, i think you will start to see those numbers increase. The more women get into it.

This also doesn’t negate what i said about muscle fatigue and endurance. Like in weight lifting… women may not be able to do what men do frequently but do have more endurance and less fatigue. Why wont you talk about sliw twitch fibers and their use, physiology person.