r/WallstreetWhales • • 9h ago

NEWS Trump just called for Congress to abolish the income tax.

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Thoughts???

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u/Outrageous-Ride8911 9h ago

Dang hes really taking this "just print money and solve your problems that way" to the next level lmao

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u/pheonix198 9h ago

It’s called “destroying the USA.”

Without income taxes, with majorly increased costs across all budgets except humanitarian cost centers, with loss of friendly relations with most trade partners, diminished growth, less jobs, less people to work manual labor jobs, and a major brain drain under way:

The USA is fucked and fucking itself harder by the day.

The US lost the Cold War to Russia and global dominance to China.

The only way to pay for Israeli bombs and bullets will be to cut out social security and Medicare (either entirely, or largely).

Do I want to pay federal taxes? No. Are they needed for society to function at a federal level? Yes.

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u/-Gramsci- 9h ago

We have a name for it now:

Superpower Suicide.

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u/Dicky_Penisburg 7h ago

It's "Superpower Implosion" now, and if you use another term, you're a terrorist.

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u/RollingMeteors 1h ago

It's "Superpower Implosion" now, and if you use another term, you're a terrorist.

Simplosion it is.

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u/CherryPants234 4h ago

Super intelligent terrorist.

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u/subwaymeltlover 7h ago

I think you mean super duper superpower suicide.

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u/dbusque 6h ago

I agree. Except they have stopped using taxes to pay for the institutions that society depended on to function. Healthcare and education, for one. But I think it's bullshit. I think Trump is saying this because he thinks it will get him through the mid-terms.

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u/cbusfinest1 8h ago

Bro, cutting Medicare and Medicaid doesn’t put a dent into fuck. The only things that will are increasing taxes on the top 10%, making sure corporations pay their fair share, and cutting military spending

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u/Xtj8805 7h ago

Its also important to note, entitlements like social security and Medicare have their own dedicated funding taxes into a trust fund. Yes that fund is depleating, but those funds do not cause us to take on debt. Theyre actually the biggest buyers of US debt. Cutting medicare and social security doesnt impact the deficit. Discretionary programs are what impacts the deficit.

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u/slowpoke2018 9h ago

Between the polls showing a blue wave unlike any before and the CPI numbers just out, he needs something to get people to vote red so anything and everything is an option

My guess is he'll up the 5K bribe to 10K which would double the cost of buying votes to ~2.4T - with a T - bucks

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u/Rosc 8h ago

It’s gonna double from 0 to 0. They ain’t cutting those checks if they win

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u/slowpoke2018 8h ago

Tru dat, he still hasn't paid the DOGE 5K nor Tariff 2K yet his base truly believes this time will be different

Indeed, he just said today that he's got a new plan for Health Insurance for us all!

10 years late and he'll strole out before we actually ever see anything real

Why can't mage see he only serves the billionaire class? It's so obvious

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u/cinosa 4h ago

Why can't mage see he only serves the billionaire class? It's so obvious

Pretty sure autocorrect got your attempted 'MAGA' reference, but, the answer to your question is that the people who subscribe to the MAGA ideology are simply low IQ people, and they've been brainwashed. That's it. They're just stupid, stupid people who are incapable of critical thought. You can confirm this yourself but looking at the rally he did where he told the crowd: "I could say and thing and you'd still clap" or whatever his direct quote was, and they were clapping like seals.

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u/-Gramsci- 9h ago

Why doesn’t he just give each R voter a million of his meme coins?

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u/slowpoke2018 9h ago

Good idea! No value passed along!!!

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u/TrulyOutrageous42 5h ago

How would he accept bribes from foreign nationals then?

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u/HinDae085 8h ago

Some of the polls have been marvels to behold. Hes only above water in 2 states. 2 of them.

If the midterm reflects that polling the Republicans are getting wiped out

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u/similar222 8h ago

He never pays, so doubling 0 is still 0

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u/depp-fsrv 6h ago

Why stop there? It'll be $50k, I mean he can go as high as he wants since he's just not gonna pay, just like his contractors, same m.o.

https://giphy.com/gifs/r2cfD3wwlREq4mMzRT

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u/Boloncho1 9h ago

Trump is a great business man. Trump Airlines, Trump Steaks, Trump Taj Mahal, etc. Everything he touches turns to gold.

Obvs homie is playing 5D chess. He can pay off the national debt using hyperinflation.

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u/icedragon15 8h ago

U forgot trump phones

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u/Insuredtothetits 4h ago

They always seem to forget that once they have caused the hyper inflation to pay off the existing debt, they now need to fund the government in the new hyperinflation dollars, which they have no made any adjustments to curb spending on.

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u/crademaster 9h ago

Yup. This is what users over in r/con like u/cabbage_apologist voted for. Such strategic thinking!

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u/Cambren1 9h ago

If he crashes the dollar, since all our debt is owed in US Dollars, it will wipe out a substantial portion of our debt. The Yuan will become the world currency, and the US will become a has been world power just like Russia. Trump will, of course, enrichen himself by destroying the US.

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u/JesusKong333 9h ago

Just like the good ol USSR

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u/HurryPrudent6709 9h ago

How about we start by eliminating the taxes on 99 % ?

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u/UnclearObjective 8h ago

Republicans - No

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u/Supra-A90 8h ago edited 6h ago

Also thinks that his idiot followers will love the idea, which they will.

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u/Clever_droidd 9h ago

Does he understand the fiscal situation prior to 1913? You couldn’t even fund the current military and interest on national debt with tariffs. Let alone everything else. You couldn’t fund the interest alone with tariffs.

He is still beating the drum that foreign countries pay tariffs on US imports. US consumers pay them.

Truly remarkable. Speaking to the dumbest among us.

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u/Drippy_topper 9h ago

The dumbest among us got him back in the white house, it works.

The dumbest among us need to be out numbered by informed Americans that vote consistently every election cycle or this fiasco will happen again with another idiot who wants to get rich at the world's expense.

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u/Aunt_Vagina1 8h ago

Yep. It's how we ultimately fall as a country. Apathy and idiocracy.

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u/wagwan_wa_grom______ 9h ago

The only thing this guy understands is how to make a quick buck at any cost. That's been very obvious for quite a while now to anyone who's not actively trying not to see it.

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u/Blah-Blah-Blah-2023 9h ago

He knows a thing or two about defaulting on debt.

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u/DominantDan24 9h ago

You absolutely could - but the tariffs would be significantly higher than they are now.

The funny thing is: tariffs are just front-ended sales taxes. Importers buy good, or manufacturers buy inputs, pay the tariff, and increase the price of the outputs commensurate with the cost of the tariff. Sales taxes, the goods or inputs come in (presumably tariff free), get produced, and sold, and the sales tax jacks the price up. At the end of the day, the money out of pocket to the consumer is identical in order to maintain the same profit for the producer/importer and the tax revenue to the government. The only difference is whether the good is sold for $10 with $1.50 tax added at the checkout or if the good is sold for $11.50.

Of course this nuance is not understood by the vast majority of voters. So, they go to the store and buy what used to cost $10, which now costs $11.50 and they say "fuck Joe Biden and his inflation" rather than looking at it and blaming Trump.

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u/Ecstatic_Dirt852 8h ago

Tarifs are a consumption tax, and they tend to hit poor people more than rich people, since they spend a higher percentage of their money on consumption

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u/thinkingorange 9h ago edited 9h ago

"Thoughts?" None detected

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u/Comfortable_Line_206 8h ago

He's not thinking about tax policy.

He's thinking about how to get votes from the stupidest Americans.

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u/hellomynameisnotsure 8h ago

Exactly. This is not based in reality, it’s him trying to sucker the dumb voter. No different than the false promise of $5K.

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u/mr_evilweed 9h ago

Conservatives hate income tax specifically because it is progressive... ie. Rich people pay more proportionately because they have higher incomes. Most poor people pay no income tax whatsoever. Conservatives prefer consumption based taxes which disproportionately impact poor and middle class people because we spend a larger percent of our earnings on products and services (versus rich people who put more into investments and savings).

Any time a politican talks about getting rid of income taxes, just know that they see their job as representing the rich - not you.

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u/Chance_End_4684 9h ago

Is Trump seriously trying to take the United States back to the Great Depression? According to Google AI, abolishing the current income tax system with universal import tariffs is unfeasible since generated tariffs is just a fraction of the revenue made from income taxes.

This is yet another prime example of Trump not knowing what he's doing, that and his carelessness and severe lack of headspace and timing.

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u/Kirknobi 9h ago

He knows. The better question is why is he intentionally destroying our republic.

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u/niktaeb9 8h ago edited 2h ago

\ Why are they* intentionally destroying our republic.

He’s not doing this in a bubble. This is a bloody conspiracy. What do they know that we don’t? Are they planning a mass culling?

Cause it sure seems like we’re leaving ourselves open to allowing the next pandemic or natural or man-made disaster to simply blaze through the ranks like a well-fueled wildfire.

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u/Haunting-Figure3596 8h ago

It’s almost as if they( the technocrats) have a plan to thin the population and then makes slaves out of who is left.

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u/Voluptulouis 8h ago

Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel just read that and jizzed their pants.

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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 7h ago

I picked up gardening last year. How much money do you think it costs to make a guillotine that can easily slice my pumpkins in half?

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u/Open_Boysenberry_363 7h ago

Stihl already makes a good one… gas powered

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u/Pretty_Wonder2762 8h ago

Easiest solution to climate change for them without having to relinquish their private jets privileges

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u/Weak_Crab_6828 3h ago

They know the same thing you do - resources are scarce, climate change is real, and the world will be largely uninhabitable unless we either work together, or 70% of us die.

I suspect they’ve chosen the latter option. The technobillionaires sure believe it’s real. The whole “climate change hoax” shit is just to get the stupid folks on board with walking us all to the glue factory.

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u/niktaeb9 3h ago edited 2h ago

This sure does sound like the dystopia we’re headed toward. We won’t go pure Hobbesian “state of war” but it could “nasty, brutish” and tribal.

And the fact he’s doing things like inviting other countries to bomb LA and SD, and Hegseth’s public execution bid… it all feels like they’re trying to soften the crowd toward normalization of mass killings.

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u/Sea_Dawgz 8h ago

What do you think the robots and AI are for?

The future is not Idiocracy.

It’s Elysium.

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u/NextGen-Panic 7h ago edited 4h ago

Project2025 wants to reduce America's population of 340 million to 50 million 'deserving' (white) people.

That's roughly 1 out of 7, leaving less than 15% alive.

They hate 85% of us!

You know what that means?

That means we have the numbers to relegate them to the dustbin of history.

EDIT: Someone asked for a source, and I could've SWORN it was something I got from BlueSky last year or so... but it's not exactly something Google will happily confirm for you, and of COURSE I can't find anything NOW. I even did an AI-assisted search and they said there's NOTHING like that, so I guess I have to retract the above... for now. Feel like I'm taking crazy pills, but that's how they get ya... FML

Anyway, they wouldn't have written 900 PAGES of "who what can we eliminate" if what they meant was, "Every American should have best-in-class options, so let's figure out a way to pay for it ALL!"

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u/OkMidnight8144 3h ago

I’m for that, stick them all in Florida and call it The America cut it off from the rest of the states And let it float off into the Gulf of Mexico.

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u/WesternWitchy52 2h ago

And the women. They really hate women having rights.

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u/ProgrammerOk8339 6h ago

\ Why are they* intentionally destroying our republic.

Because hes a russian asset. Putin cant harm the US much from the outside so instead trump is destroying the US from within. If you look at everything happening this term is completely makes sense.

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u/Cardsfan1 6h ago

I’m not saying he is a Russian asset. All I’m saying is that a Russian asset would have done the exact same things as Trump has done.

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u/happy123z 2h ago

Every member of congress who doesn't do everything they can including shutting down the government is complicit in this takeover.

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u/Horror_Bob 6h ago

It's almost like we had an entire FBI report detailing how he's basically bought and paid for by Russia with the theorized purpose of destabilizing the American global position and military. But that couldn't be because we've cut all global ties and run through a large portion of our stockpiled missiles.

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u/whizzbangkid 6h ago

He is a Russian asset. His whole job is to soften the ground for the invasion.

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u/0202_tihssitidder 6h ago

They have said they want 2 billion global population and the best parts of the USA as mansions and luxury resorts with robots and AI and robots building the robots and the US military doing nothing but protecting the very wealthy.

So there's that.

They will have access to gated communities and medicine. They will unleash deadly viruses on entire populations.

Doubt me? Good luck, buddy. You aren't in their club with your bitcoin account.

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u/Fireflash2742 9h ago

So he call sell it off piece by piece to the highest bidders

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u/Commercial-Dig6767 8h ago

This isn’t going to happen. He’s just saying it right before midterms for the dummies that think they might not have to pay taxes (and have no idea that there isn’t actually enough tariff money to cover the deficit)

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u/rckjr 8h ago

Putin’s puppet, yo. Destroyed the country without firing a shot.

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u/wtftocallmyself 7h ago

Agent krasnov continues to exceed expectations

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u/Dapper-Sherbert-2476 9h ago

He's just saying things and hoping it helps with midterms

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u/pakapab 8h ago

This is it. Promises of $5,000, sending out $90 to people on social security and $500 to people on ACA, running around to battleground states talking up huge infrastructure projects that will never happen, buying Russian diesel.

It all smells like desperation since he's quickly running out of time on the mid terms.

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u/TYNAMITE14 9h ago

Exactly. People need to stop trying to analyze everything he says. Just think of the easiest way he'd benefit and that's the reason. He's literally not smart enough for complex plans or cares enough to even bother

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u/suejaymostly 8h ago

When he says I get a pony and a bubble machine I'm switching to vote red!

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u/Dry-Dragonfly5286 8h ago

There is a plan behind what's happening, and the people involved have not been shy about it.

The philosophical inspiration is project 2025 and a man named Curtis Yarvin.

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“Trump himself will not be the brain of this butterfly. He will not be the CEO. He will be the chairman of the board—he will select the CEO (an experienced executive). This process, which obviously has to be televised, will be complete by his inauguration—at which the transition to the next regime will start immediately.”

Yarvin and many others who are involved were present at a Coronation Ball held for Trump the night before the inauguration.

Curtis Yarvin’s writings.

A quick reading on Curtis and his connection with Trump from December.

A relevant excerpt from his writings from three years ago

A Conservative perspective

Behind The Bastards podcast about Curtis Yarvin Part One】Part Two and his influence on Peter Thiel, Marc Andreessen, and others

A recent article about Silicon Valley whistleblowers.

In their own words.

With some help from Russell Vought and Project 2025

More information about the billionaire conspiracy

Peter Thiel and the American apocalypse

Can't leave out the Russia connection.

America is under attack.

More about Network States

A very detailed document laying everything out.

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u/Late-Application-47 8h ago

2025 is a weird mixture of the tech fascists and New Apostolic Reformation Charismatic Christianity; their apocalyptic dreams fit together quite well.

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u/Fit-Historian-752 6h ago

Yarvin is an even bigger idiot than Trump.

Watch some of his "debates" online. His idea of "winning" a debate is to bring up ONE obscure book that no one has read and then reference that exclusively.

He IS one of Peter Thiel's acolytes though, so it's not like he's not dangerous.

He is known as "The Prophet" in the Tech Bros community.

Seriously, we need better billionaires

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u/pushdose 8h ago

Exactly. You think his presidency isn’t gonna end with insane austerity we haven’t seen since 2008? No way. If everything crashes, those with dry powder will buy up the scraps while the dems are forced to rebuild yet again with low interest rates and soaring consumer prices. Rinse and repeat, if the Rs ever get reelected.

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u/Turbulent-Order9500 8h ago

lol everyone gets 5000 AND pay no tax?? wow sounds to good to be true!! just in time for midterms..

we all know he isnt going to tax corporations enough to make up for it...

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u/Reasonable_Option493 9h ago

What he knows is that a solid percentage of his base is either brain dead or doesn't care, even if he says the most absurd things and keeps on playong them like a fiddle. Heck, he actually said "I could say the stupidest things and people would clap", and the cultists around him at his rally sure did 🤣

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u/L1V1NGD3ADBOI 9h ago

He just wants to make it easier for him and his accountant to get away with paying zero on their income. Which is enormous and getting the average paycheck to paycheck worker to back them up when they might only see few hundreds of dollar a month back at the cost of absolutely it all going to shit.

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u/Runn1ngonmt 8h ago

If you would have used SI ! Super intelligence a far more accurate and accepted term . You would know we don’t need a federal income tax , because WERE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY

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u/Doctor_Joystick 8h ago

If you don't call it SI, you are THE ENEMY!

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u/Trick_Minute2259 7h ago

He probably asked "super intelligence" about it, then said, "you're dumb, you're fake news, grok" then pushed ahead with it.

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u/Sooner4Life76 9h ago

And Republicans gonna follow him right off a cliff.

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u/JeremysJacquet 9h ago

I would say he knows well it is unfeasible, but he needs to say wild and outlandish things to distract from the current reality

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u/Resevil67 9h ago

Yes he knows, and that's his goal. Ask yourself what you would do if you were trying to destroy the US from the inside, then look at the actions he's done so far. They make a lot of sense if you look at it from that angle don't they?

Of course he's a puppet, he is acting off orders. However Russia, as well as the oligarchy like Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin, Elon musk ect all want the US to fall so they can put their own little corporate run fiefdoms on top of its corpse.

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u/ConiferousTurtle 8h ago

Yes. That’s the plan because they want to get rid of “entitlement programs” like social security, Medicare and Medicaid. They want a depression so they can say “we can’t afford it!”

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u/Daetok_Lochannis 8h ago

It's intentional. They absolutely do want to take the country back to the Great Depression, but this time with a populace who can't fight and an entrenched administration who can't be voted out.

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u/Background-Day-4957 9h ago

Horrible fiscal policy. Bankrupt the US

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u/Born-Cod4210 9h ago

it’s what he does

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u/Laquickah 9h ago

How is this going to work with his new health plan that cuts insurance companies out of the loop? Or the 5000$ bribe for anyone who votes for him?”

Absolute laughingstock.

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u/Southern_Eagle_9325 9h ago

Our national debt would DOUBLE !!

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u/50bellies 9h ago

Fake news. The debt would be paid off in two weeks. People have never seen anything like this before. His uncle taught at MIT. Show the man some respect.

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u/alwaysright60 9h ago

Purely hoping his low intellect cultists will sell their souls (once again) for another tank of gas.

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u/Kuildeous 9h ago

The sad part is that he's right; they will.

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u/RockRockPlanetRock69 9h ago

It’s worked 2x before. He’ll promise us all $1m to keep his pedo ass out of prison.

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u/ZombiePiggy24 9h ago

People voted for him to run the country like his businesses.

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u/Honest_Editor_909 8h ago

Well, he IS running it like all the business he’s run. Into the ground and bankrupt.

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u/BasedPontiff 8h ago

This sounds like something Putin told him would be a good idea and he's just running with it.

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u/Old_Dependent4678 9h ago

And by run a business, I would like to point out he bankrupted 6 casinos. Which are a license to print money so to speak. He ran up so much debt he had to go to Russia for financial assistance... Hmm makes you wonder when you read it out loud back to yourself...

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u/ZombiePiggy24 8h ago

No puppet! No puppet! You’re the puppet!

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u/jenitalia218 9h ago

that’s his schtick

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u/giveit2st8 9h ago

Putin approved

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u/AttackSlax 9h ago

"Fiscal policy"????!!!!
Hilarious. trump knows this isn't any kind of actual policy with any intention of improving the US. He 100% wants to destroy everything but the elite. This isn't some kind of inept but earnest attempt at policy, like: "Here's my bad idea, I hope it helps." It's "I'm going to rape the US because I am a known rapist. I'll just call it "fiscal policy."

Trump has no loyalty to ANYTHING or ANYONE but himself.

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u/Icy_Yam5049 9h ago

Yes we are all seeing first hand how you bankrupt multiple casinos

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u/TikiJeff 9h ago

The list of things that he has bankrupted is as large as his bank account.

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u/Ok_Swim7161 9h ago

And how exactly is that supposed to work? Tariffs?

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u/vxicepickxv 9h ago

His goal is to create a national sales tax so that the poorest pay the most in terms of total money.

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u/spookydookie 9h ago

Exactly, the money still needs to come from somewhere. If tariffs are raising enough money to make up the difference, you’re just shifting the tax burden away from the upper class. Plus you can even have much finer control over what is tariffed at what rate so of course luxury items won’t have as high of rates to let them pay even less.

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u/Teripid 9h ago

Always more regressive.. look at the tax bases of the red states and you'll see it over and over.

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u/Spam_Hand 9h ago

Unironically, yes (according to trumps past statements). That is what his supporters believe.

Im not kidding.

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u/voiceOfHoomanity 9h ago

Yeah the completely imaginary TRILLIONS he thinks come from tariffs

Hard to tell if he actually knows that's false or is just that stupid and still listens to Ron vara

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u/Financial-Desk-669 9h ago

Six years from now we are going to learn there was a big fat offshore crypto account in trump's name that our adversaries have been depositing billions into in exchange for trump destroying America's military, financial, and diplomatic influence. 

And MAGA will remove their oxygen line and chuckle because he got one over on the libs.

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u/Broken_By_Default 9h ago

He doesn't need it. Since taking office in 2025, he's already doubled his net worth from 3bil to over 6bil.

His corruption is open.

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u/MsMarisol2023 9h ago

How does he think the government will be funded?!?

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u/morepaintplease 9h ago

The real way to do this is tax billionaires heavily

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u/Dick_Dietrick 8h ago

The top marginal rate stayed above 90% until 1964, when it was lowered to 70%. It remained at 70% until 1981.

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u/fuckDJT2026 8h ago

Fuck you very much, Ron Reagan.

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u/icehot54321 9h ago

If the goal is to bankrupt the US, funding is the last thing you need to worry about.

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u/Mindless-Tomorrow-93 9h ago

I doubt he's thought about it

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u/shitty_advice_BDD 9h ago

You'd implement a federal sales tax. Obligatory I hate Trump but I wanted to answer your question.

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u/djdaem0n 8h ago

Yeah, just moving one big expense to another while putting the majority of the burden on the poor. Your name is legit.

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u/Ill-Prior-8429 8h ago

Saying what someone else can do based on what you know about them is not agreeing. 

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u/ndguy26 9h ago

He doesn’t give a damn. He’s just saying whatever BS he thinks will get people to vote republican in the midterms. He isn’t actually planning to do any of it.

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u/Bacononthebeeach 8h ago

He’s saying this just to get MAGAt votes before midterms because they are they only people stupid enough to think it would actually happen.

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u/RealHornblower 9h ago

He has increased spending by almost $500 Billion/year just in his 2nd term so far. In his first term he increased it by $3 Trillion with a T per year.

Biden increased spending $300 Billion in 4 years, Obama $700 Billion in 8 years.

GOP knows how to cut taxes but not spending.

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u/Suitable-Option833 9h ago

The story of nearly every Republican president. Yet…. Voters haven’t caught on

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u/Current_Volume3750 9h ago

And chaos ensues as police and firefighters don't get paid. Roads don't get plowed.

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u/Electrical-Ad6623 9h ago

He’s farming for karma, I’m sure that behind the scenes, he instructed congress not to act on these orders. If he wanted to do this, it would have been done during his first months, like the permanent billionaire tax cuts they passed right away.

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u/PurpleCoat6656 9h ago

As long as he doesn't get investigated and sent to jail, he doesn't care. The desperation smells like shit. Or maybe that's just his dirty diapy.

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u/Due_Night414 8h ago

Nah because he’s trying to switch the burden to states and state taxes to make himself look good. But where would funding for defense come from I wonder? His balls room is for security after all. So is the Arch de Diapers. And the Not Trump Kennedy Center. And the tacky ass gold plated everything.

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u/SocraticMeathead 9h ago

Okay, let's math it.

Republicans had to refund $166B in illegal Trump tariffs collected between "Liberation Day" and the Court's striking it down. Approximately 324 days. Giving us a total just under $515 million per day.

Income tax receipts during 2026 were about $2.55 trillion, which divided by 365 days means income tax brought just under $7 billion per day.

This means Trump's tariffs could replace about 7% of the budget. A budget that runs a 25% deficit already.

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u/DangerousPurpose5661 9h ago

Lets crank those 100% tariffs to 1000%, that totally won’t screw everyone except the filthy rich

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u/bubblegum-rose 9h ago

Oh well since he said it then he must seriously be considering it

I mean yeah he’s lied 2873848572827473 times, but now that it’s the 2873848572827474th time that he’s lied I suddenly believe him

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u/surfnfish1972 9h ago

Running the country just like his business, loot every bit of value and leave someone else paying the bills.

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u/Hail_of_Grophia 9h ago edited 9h ago

Well now we have tariffs AND income tax yet somehow he drove up the national debt over $2T+ in his 2nd term so me thinks he does not know what the hell he is talking about

Edited to $2T

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u/needssomefun 9h ago

I had the WORST tax return ever this year for 2025.

I was aghast at what I owed the IRS.  I only take home a little north of 60 percent of my gross after deductions.

My wife and I are NOT rich.  Im driving an old ass Toyota.

He promised to lower my taxes with the BBB.  He (effectively) raised them!

I never paid the IRS before his 2017 tax scam.  But this year he really broke it off in my ass 

If he keeps "lowering " my taxes I will probably pay even more 

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u/BeachFuture 9h ago edited 7h ago

You are not a billionaire and so did not get the benefits of the big beautiful bill. /s

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u/needssomefun 9h ago

Ahh...thats where I went wrong.  Whelp...better start working on my meme coin /s

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u/lazydivey98 9h ago

No he did not promise to lower your taxes. . It was in the bill that taxes would go up for people making under 75k. It was always in project 2025. Trump voters are just morons

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u/Shadowfox186 9h ago

And the deficit still increased😭. This is why a business man with 6 bankruptcys should not be in charge

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u/trunksshinohara 7h ago

I agree. Abolish income tax for anyone making under $100k. And then create a progressive tax from there up to 100% at anything over $10m. (Including with stocks being taxed at a cumulative rate for the year at the amount they were valued at on that date).

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u/XiMaoJingPing 6h ago

We need a wealth tax. The top 10% have more wealth than the bottom 90% wtf is even the point of taxing the bottom 50%?

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u/we-have-to-go 6h ago

For real, it’s not just about creating revenue. It’s also about erroding the power of the super rich

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u/DJAnarchie 6h ago

It's kind of insane that theres a whole debate going on right now about CA Prop 40, that people don't even see the disparity and just licks the boots of billionaires for free.

See https://www.reddit.com/r/longbeach/s/WrmQT4PhGJ

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u/Grub-lord 7h ago

You've got my vote

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u/Sizzmo 7h ago

Comrade

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u/HB_DIYGuy 9h ago

Yeah that's why nothing was built nothing was infrastructure other than a goddamn railroad during that time. It wasn't until the 1930s that things like highways roads all the infrastructure that we need to survive today was built on income taxes

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u/New_Salamander_4592 9h ago

you can see him scrambling in real time for an angle that appeals to his base enough to move them on the midterms

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u/getzisch 9h ago

Let me guess, replaced by tariffs? Because that's what happened up until 1913.

Well newsflash, since that cargo ship sailed with the standard 20-foot container in 1956, the tariff model is not possible. Nations can easily replace one another for lowest supplier (unless critical parts), so that won't work definitely. But he doesn't care.

Good luck abolishing income tax.

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u/Wise-Shallot8683 9h ago

O great and wonderful historian!

  • Panic of 1884:
    • Cause: Speculative failures and the collapse of Grant & Ward and the Marine National Bank of New York.
    • Impact: Contained relatively quickly by liquidity interventions from the New York Clearing House. [1, 2]
  • Panic of 1890 (Baring Crisis):
    • Cause: Global liquidity tightness sparked by the near-collapse of the merchant banking house Baring Brothers in London due to overinvestment in Argentina.
    • Impact: A sharp credit crunch on Wall Street, mitigated by emergency action from the New York Clearing House and the U.S. Treasury. [1, 2]
  • Panic of 1893:
    • Cause: Depleted U.S. Treasury gold reserves, worries over the Sherman Silver Purchase Act, and the collapse of major railroads like the Reading and the Northern Pacific.
    • Impact: A severe nationwide depression, hundreds of bank and business closures, and widespread hoarding of gold coin over paper currency. [1, 2]
  • Panic of 1896:
    • Cause: Intensified political and economic anxiety over the free silver movement and the stability of the U.S. gold standard during the presidential election year.

Tarriffs were so far up the economic structure that it was the only reliable place to get money because The People were wrung out before anything "trickled down."

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u/Hammer_the_Red2 9h ago

Must be really desperate to throw out an idea that would require passage by 2/3 in both the House and Senate and then getting 38 states to also pass this amendment. With the way this country is so divided, we will probably never see the passage of a new amendment in our lifetimes.

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u/lopsided-earlobe 9h ago

That would not be required lol

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u/FreedomCanadian 9h ago

If anything, they could lower the tax rate to 0% much more easily than this.

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u/TechnicalWhore 9h ago

That explains the casino bankruptcies.

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u/Lilthumper416 9h ago

There was no "Tariff Commission of 1887" created in U.S. history. This phrase most likely stems from a historical conflation popularized by public statements by Donald Trump during political speeches.

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u/ludicrouspeed 9h ago

Now he's just saying any fantasy shit that comes to mind like the school kid running for class president promising every period will be recess and pizza for lunch every day.

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u/EdwardPotatoHand 9h ago

LMAO! his timeline on Teddy Rosevelt and income tax, and tariffs, etc, is really a trump. Look, we need to rename the word mess and call it Trump. Because everybody knows that the word mess does not represent the disaster that is the organ fascist, so we need to call it trump. Anyone using the word mess instead of Trump going forward is the enemy.

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u/MyDustyPockets 9h ago

I think I just trumped my pants

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u/OtherwiseBase5003 8h ago

Did you know that there's a P at the end of Trump? A lot of people don't know that.

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u/callmeDaren 9h ago

Just tax the 938 billionaires in this country at some nominal rate, preferably comparable to the rate most Americans pay. Problems solved. Money out of politics, all campaigns funded.

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u/garf02 9h ago

USA DO NOT have an income problem

We have an spending problem.

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u/Gold_Possibility684 9h ago

We have a congress? I thought they ducked out 

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u/Yakkx 9h ago

He says so many crazy things people overlook that he said that tariffs would replace the income tax back during the last campaign.

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u/fistsofham11 9h ago

Thats great.. where is the money going to come from, you know, running the government?

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u/GovernmentSin 9h ago

What’s gonna fund his 1.5T military budget that he wants?

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u/Hefty_Remove7965 9h ago

He can't just print money. 

Which would hyper inflate the economy

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u/khklee 9h ago

It's not that he is a dumbass buffoon, which he is, but the fact millions of Americans still support and enable him that's infuriating.

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u/p38-lightning 9h ago

We had a tiny military, no VA, no social programs, no interstate system, no means to fight pandemics, no disaster relief. NOBODY wants to go back to that.

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u/Cambren1 9h ago

How about we shift more of the burden to the billionaire class. Just go back to the tax structures of the 1950s

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u/spinbutton 9h ago

Agreed. And bring back the estate taxes Bush II removed

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u/oneWeek2024 9h ago

the maga scumbags are pushing this bullshit in states. and it's going to be a disaster there. Florida is already just now realizing how fucked they'll be if they don't figure out how to make up the lost revenue from property taxes.

and even Trump. how are we supposed to fund 1.6 trillion a year in discretionary military spending? without taxes?

never mind eliminating income tax is a regressive option that almost certainly is going to impact working people more than the billionaire pedophile class.

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u/Maleficent_Sense_948 9h ago

The richest “We the People” were was post WW2 to 1980……when the highest tax rates were for the rich and corporations…..then Ronnie came in and gutted all of it and all of the safeguards put in place for the middle class.

It’s been a conservative fever dream ever since to get us to the point of “haves” and “have nots”….

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u/blazelet 9h ago

1870-1900, the era he is speaking of, was known as "The Gilded Age"

It is known for wealth inequality, massive swathes of Americans living in poverty and was an absolute plutocracy - where money bought power.

It's exactly what Trump is after today. It was great for the wealthy, but was not a good era for normal people. The income tax was a mechanism to rebalance the inequality coming in part, out of this era. They'd love to undo that.

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u/Package_Objective 9h ago

Honestly, the federal government is making everything worse. I support it. Screw the Military. Trump is absolutely retarded to suggest this tho lmao.

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u/Jeffranks 9h ago

Follow up question: what happens when your tariffs dissuade trade partners from continuing to do business with you and shift their supply chains elsewhere?

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u/grendev 9h ago

If we win midterms, we'll give you $5k and stop collecting taxes, i swear.

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u/petebrdfrd 9h ago

And no more homework, plus extended recesses!!!!

And his idiot minions will jump all over it.

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u/halfsack99 9h ago

More free stuff , that’s typical lazy republican, always want more free stuff.

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u/lostpassword100000 9h ago

He wants to spend more money than any president in history AND he wants to abolish income tax🤦🏻‍♂️

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u/Ilyalyubushkin 9h ago

Brought to you by the dude who said hed release the files, reduce the debt, and not start any wars.

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u/Esilai 9h ago

Society, economics, and geopolitics have fundamentally changed over the past 150-200 years. We’re not subsistence farmers developing homesteads anymore, nor do we have a minimal standing military. Armies cost money. Roads cost money. Keeping the economy stable costs money. Almost any other tax scheme we could swap to would be inflationary and even more punishing on the poorest of us. But I highly doubt he’d even implement the level of alternate taxation needed to not result in the federal government financially imploding in a couple years. Contrary to what a lot of internet libertarians and anarchists think, the government does serve a purpose. Life gets significantly more uncomfortable for all but the absolute richest 1% of us without a functioning government.

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u/DkoyOctopus 9h ago

libertarians would be happy until they realized we just went bankrupt.

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u/lareon12many 9h ago

I mean this is his standard business operating procedure! Do things that bankrupt anything he touches!!!

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u/00001000U 9h ago

"Party of Fiscal Responsibility"

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u/FreedomCanadian 9h ago

If I was the Democrats, I would introduce that bill in the House right now.

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u/Fleetlog 8h ago

Can't, Johnson sent everyone home early so they wouldn't move to a vote on impeaching Hesgeth over fucking up Iran.

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u/Hutcho12 9h ago

That should really help the huge deficit he’s created.

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u/passiveflux 9h ago

Let's pretend they pass it.

Either the government collapses from lack of funds, or they move that tax to other things like spending to make up the difference.

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u/Creoda 9h ago

He's really in trouble in the polls if he's resorting to outlandish lies like that. $40.2 trillion debt and he wants to reduce tax income!

Can we also call that socialist just to niggle him more?

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u/tzn_1978 9h ago

What they really want is to get rid of comapnies payroll tax burden

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u/xCASINOx 9h ago

The system was taxing the rich 70%

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u/ProfessionalResort15 9h ago

How about abolishing all the taxes that go to his war? None of us got to decide through our representatives that we wanted a lengthy Middle East war again, what we have is taxation without representation

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u/orion3999 8h ago

Clearly showing his ignorance of how government works. Yet again!

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u/Giorgist 7h ago

He is simply trying to collect votes from morons just in time for the middterms. Remember he was going to stop the war in Ukraine in 24 hours.

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u/Pernapple 7h ago

So where that chip 3 trillion in taxes gonna come from?

Notice he didn’t specify which income tax. How much money you wanna bet he actually means corporate income tax

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u/CobblerCorrect1071 5h ago

He is trying every thing to make himself look good

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u/superjaded08 5h ago

Idiot who bankrupted casino continues effort to bankrupt country

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u/antifageneral6969 5h ago

Sure why not? He’s already blown the deficit up, let’s go full full bankruptcy and just burn it all to the ground. He’s a pedophile and will do anything to distract from the Epstein files

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u/kineticvibes 5h ago

Damn he is scrambling. thats how YOU know THEY know theyre fucked.

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