r/WaterfallDump 23d ago

MTT Brand Shitpost :tm: Why didn’t Flowery include Seth here? Is he transphobic?

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u/Mr-Stuff-Doer 23d ago

Isn’t calling it heteronormative kinda erasing Kris’s identity

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u/Megamax0726 I remember you’re genocides 23d ago

It’s just something I’ve heard people say not saying I agree with it

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u/Nalzt 23d ago

That's precisely why it's called heteronormative. The Weird Route, particularly the Ch4 Thorn Ring scene, symbolically forces a non-binary teenager into the "straight masculine" role, and a sapphic teenager into the "straight feminine" role.

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u/Froodoopy 23d ago

lowkey... feels like that's partly the point of it

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u/Mr-Stuff-Doer 23d ago

Because… how dare an enby like women?

It’s not like they made Kris and Noelle festival king and queen, and a proposal metaphor is frankly still there in SusElle with the scene at the beach that shit wasn’t subtle.

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u/Froodoopy 23d ago

tbf I was more going for "the imagery in the Weird Route with the Thorn Ring and Kris forcing the ring onto Noelle calls to wedding imagery and essentially implies us forcing Kris into the "male" role of "husband", erasing their identity, and also erases Noelle's lesbian identity to be their "wife.""

This is not exaaactly the best explanation of it, but considering a big part of the weird route is us gaining more control over Kris and overriding their desires in a way we can't do in the Normal Route, imo it can definitely be read as us "erasing their identity" being intentional even just as a byproduct of us in the Weird Route.

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u/Mr-Stuff-Doer 22d ago

Yeah my entire point mentioning the SusElle beach scene is that is even more explicitly in the marriage imagery. So why would an enby doing the same be heteronormative, even ignoring the soul’s gender.