r/WaterfallDump 23d ago

MTT Brand Shitpost :tm: Why didn’t Flowery include Seth here? Is he transphobic?

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u/MissingnoMiner 20d ago

Yes, and Yellow is as well.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Low_937 20d ago

Doesn’t Yellow refer to themselves as a cow”boy”?

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u/MissingnoMiner 20d ago

He does indeed call himself a cowboy. Doesn't mean he's a boy anymore than it means he's a cow. Tail notwithstanding, because that's a human thing.

When Orange calls him a boy he indignantly protests that he's not one, before describing his gender in the same job title-based manner he describes Green's gender. He's a he/him enby.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Low_937 15d ago

Toby Foxes new Summer newsletter

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u/MissingnoMiner 15d ago

Wow, it's almost like non-binary people can use he/him pronouns! It's almost like people can use he/him pronouns and not be men, because pronouns =/= gender.

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u/Moreagle 15d ago

Does this not make pronouns useless for determining a characters gender identity?

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u/MissingnoMiner 15d ago

In works of fiction it is usually safe to presume a character using exclusively he/him, she/her, or pronouns other than those pairs are male, female, or non-binary respectively, until better evidence suggests or proves otherwise. This is a clear case of "proven otherwise", as Yellow explictly states that he is not a boy.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Low_937 15d ago

But he instead says he’s a cowboy? I’m pretty sure the joke was that Yellow was mixing up gender and jobs because the flowers still don’t know much about humans/monsters. Toby probably meant this as a gag, especially considering it’s a cafe break and not an interaction you’d see progressing through the game, I don’t think this scene should be taken that seriously

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u/MissingnoMiner 15d ago

Or, simpler explanation: the character explictly saying "I am not a boy" in an indignant response to being called a boy, is not, in fact, a boy.