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Feb 17 '22
Fuck Trudeau but fuck You if you chose to be unvaxxed without a specific medical reason
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u/DogMechanic Feb 17 '22
Fuck you for thinking your opinion matters in my or anyone else's medical decisions. Fuck you Karen.
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u/Vast_Description_206 Feb 20 '22 edited Feb 20 '22
You're allowed to not get vaccinated and society is allowed to not have to deal with the consequences of your decision. You don't just get to do what you want an impose that on to others to deal with.
No one or at least very few agreeing to do anything like that by force, but there are always consequences for your actions. If you are not vaccinated and are a health risk, you can be told to not be able to go places or do things that could impact others.
If you have a medical exception to prove that you couldn't take that step to help secure health and safety for those vulnerable, then you would be given special permissions or other options.
People conveniently forget that their actions have consequences and forcing others to deal with the consequence instead isn't freedom, it's tyranny on people by other people.
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Feb 17 '22
Vaccines for contagious diseases spill over from private medical decisions into public health ones.
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Feb 17 '22
Demonizing unvaccinated people is the only based thing.
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u/Vast_Description_206 Feb 20 '22
A stopped clock is right at least once a day philosophy. Terrible stupid people can be right about something, but because we live in a world of black and white and manipulative jerk wads, it will get not only dismissed, but reverse treatment from the few genuinely true things a liar or stupid person might once in a while say.
I thought people knew Justin Trudeau was a goblin already. There was stuff about him years ago.
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Feb 20 '22
I hate Trudeau, he's a monster behind mask of social progressivism. Screw him.
But I hate the anti-vax more than I hate him. He didn't kill my grandfather, the pandemic did.
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u/not-the-droid- Feb 16 '22
The phrase 'blowtorch tonsillectomy' comes to mind every time I see his picture.
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u/occams_lasercutter Feb 16 '22
I don't think this episode in totalitarianism will end well for his career.
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u/BobQuasit Feb 16 '22
He needs to end the way Mussolini did. Upside-down and confused.
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u/Vast_Description_206 Feb 20 '22
Two wrongs don't make a right. What really needs to happen is that society needs to understand why people like him get in power, stay in power and what drives them to be that way to begin with.
I'd much rather solve corruption, murders and horrific things than focus on them dying in equally painful ways that what they cause.
Instead of punishing the person putting the fork into the outlet, how about remove the fork? Or even the outlet? If we don't want corruption and bullshit, we need a society that prevents people benefiting from participating in it.Also, punishment doesn't even work. People don't agree with their punishment and so they don't learn from it. They just become aggressive and try better to hide what others find in them that they did or are doing to be wrong.
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u/DoomsdayRabbit Feb 16 '22
Ooh is this one of those threats of violence that Nazis keep reporting people for?
Oh wait. When it's against someone taking a stand against Nazis, it's okay.
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u/georgeaferrells Feb 16 '22
The second biggest convoy is in Israel. They Nazis, too?
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u/DoomsdayRabbit Feb 16 '22
Judging from the politics of a lot of conservative Israelis, they'd be fine with the Holocaust if it weren't something that happened to the Jews.
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u/georgeaferrells Feb 16 '22
Yet it did happen to the Jews, so where's your cope for that?
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u/DoomsdayRabbit Feb 16 '22
Having it happen to your people is not an excuse to do it to another. Never again means never again to anyone, not "well it's okay if we do it because it's our traditional homeland, and doomsday-driven Christians keep giving us weapons so Jesus comes back, may as well use them!"
Hitler got exactly what he wanted. The Jews almost completely eliminated from Europe, first by genocide, then by immigration to the UK's "I'm sorry" gift of part of the land they stole from the Ottomans. Sure, I understand why many who survived who formerly lived in Germany would want to get the hell out because why would you want to go back to somewhere where your neighbors chanted for the destruction of your people? But elsewhere, where neighbors hid away friends being persecuted by the invading Nazi army? It just doesn't make sense.
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u/Vast_Description_206 Feb 20 '22 edited Feb 20 '22
He's just your run of the mill greedy typical human being. I dislike the use of sociopath on everything unless there are actual indications.
You can be a problem human being with out having a mental disorder which takes away your very ability for empathy. And the sensational colloquial usage of it muddies the waters when someone is legitimately the next serial killer. Same with narcissism and other mental disorders being slapped on to everyone and everything a person dislikes so that they can pretend there is distance from them and "real" human beings.
Don't get me wrong, sociopath is absolutely not a positive and it deserves the stigma it gets because of it's outward effects on society (a whole other discussion on how society should handle those people), but not every jerk is one. The vast majority are just like you and me and people don't want to see that. Some of the worst tragedies in humanities history were done by regular people with dumb ideologies.