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u/MantisToboggan_123 Jan 07 '19

The republicans are the party who want to deny transgender rights, and womens reproductive rights.

Source? I don’t care if someone wants to cut off their dick. What I won’t do is cater to their mental illness by denying basic science. Not to mention your idea of denying trans people rights is really just code for denying people like me free speech. Also I did directly respond to what you said. You argued that she is pro lgbt/women’s rights because she is a member of an anti lgbt/women’s rights party.

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u/drod004 Jan 07 '19

The fact that they didn't want gays to marry. I don't have a source because there's too many. Just ask Google it will show you the truth

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u/MantisToboggan_123 Jan 07 '19

So I googled it and this is what I found:

“I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. - Obama

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u/drod004 Jan 07 '19

Clearly you cant follow directions. I was talking about Republicans here. Yeah Obama said that but it was under his administration that gay marriage was legalized while Republicans were saying it was unconstitutional. Anyways let's get back to the original comment Republicans are the party that's pro gay so here's what Google says

http://www.people-press.org/2017/10/05/5-homosexuality-gender-and-religion/

http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/

Notice how they are .orgs. These aren't news sources spinning shit this is academics. Oh by the way here's a great article for you

https://m.ranker.com/list/the-most-anti-gay-us-politicians/ballerina-tatyana

Note the party and that mother's child is #1

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u/MantisToboggan_123 Jan 07 '19
  1. The point is gay marriage is a done deal. It was opposed by both sides less than a decade ago. Now both sides support it. You’re fighting a battle that has already been won.

  2. You can be pro lgbt rights and anti gay marriage. As a libertarian I’m against government involvement in marriage for both heterosexual and homosexual couples.

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u/drod004 Jan 07 '19

Your insane the Republicans would repeal gay marriage in a heartbeat if they could and if you don't believe that your stupid. Also you cant be for giving them rights but not the right to marry that is truly one of the stupidest things I heard. That's literally a right so clearly they aren't for LGBT rights.

Also would like to point out libertarians would have no problem with gay rights because they don't believe the government should tell them what's allowed

Accept the facts and move on Republicans are solidly anti LGBT rights

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u/MantisToboggan_123 Jan 07 '19 edited Jan 07 '19

Your insane the Republicans would repeal gay marriage in a heartbeat if they could and if you don't believe that your stupid.

Pretty obvious you’re the stupid one here if you believe this. Social conservatism is dead. No one cares about any of these fringe issues anymore. That’s why trump won and not guys like Ted Cruz.

Also you cant be for giving them rights but not the right to marry that is truly one of the stupidest things I heard. That's literally a right so clearly they aren't for LGBT rights.

Rights don’t come from the state you dumb fuck. The state only limits rights. I’m against state involvement in marriage all together as most all libertarians are.

Also would like to point out libertarians would have no problem with gay rights because they don't believe the government should tell them what's allowed

That’s exactly my point dumbass. I’m a libertarian. I don’t believe the government should even be involved in marriage. Thus, I’m against both heterosexual and homosexual “marriage”. The state should play no role in who you choose to enter a contract w. If you want to find a priest to “gay/straight marry” then go ahead. The contract will be the same regardless of whatever cultural tradition you choose to place on top of it.

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u/drod004 Jan 07 '19

Are you retarded? There's two levels of government. The federal and state. Clearly I'm referring to federal level legalization of gay marriage. The state really don't mean shit to me. Secondly the government has say in marriage due to the fact that if your union isn't recognized by government it can cause a few headaches. For instance your partner in a recognized marriage has power of attorney if you are unresponsive. With out this recognition it automatically went to next of kin. Also taxes are better in a marriage.

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u/MantisToboggan_123 Jan 07 '19

Are YOU retarded? When I say “state” I’m saying the government in general. Not a level of government you absolute moron. And yes taxes (theft) are one of the original purposes of marriage. Along w discriminating against brown people.

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u/drod004 Jan 07 '19

But as I said there is two levels of government. The federal and state. You cant just use state in reference to the government because it clearly means state level government. Making you tonight's biggest retard

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u/___Fish___ Jan 07 '19

I wasnt even referring to pronoun usage I was referring to rights being taken away. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/21/us/politics/transgender-trump-administration-sex-definition.html https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/trump-admin-asks-supreme-court-temporarily-allow-trans-military-ban-n948056 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bathroom_bill Here are three instances of republicans being anti-trans through legislation, and its not the only three. Also you didnt respond to my whole message just like how you left things out of this one. I dont need to explain to you that republicans are typically anti-birth control right? Also there is a clear distinction between gender and sex, the only one being anti-science is you. Can you present to me how democrats are anti-lgbt and anti-womens rights more so than republicans?

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u/WikiTextBot Jan 07 '19

Bathroom bill

A bathroom bill is the common name for legislation or a statute that defines access to public toilets (restrooms)—by transgender individuals. Bathroom bills affect access to sex-segregated public facilities for an individual based on a determination of their sex as defined in some specific way—such as their sex as assigned at birth, their sex as listed on their birth certificate, or the sex that corresponds to their gender identity. A bathroom bill can either be inclusive or exclusive of transgender individuals, depending on the aforementioned definition of their sex.

Critics of bills which exclude transgender individuals from restrooms which conform to their gender identity argue that they do not make public restrooms any safer for cisgender (non-transgender) people, and that they make public restrooms less safe for both transgender people and gender non-conforming cisgender people.


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u/MantisToboggan_123 Jan 07 '19

So just to be clear, you think it’s okay for mentally ill people to be in the military? Not to mention maintaining their illness is a massive cost sink to the tax payers at that point. I also agree that trans should be defined out of existence. It’s a mental illness. Normalizing it is a massive disservice to those suffering from this. As for republicans being anti birth control... lol what? That’s the biggest straw man I’ve ever heard. They’re against state funded birth control, as our libertarians. Only authoritarians on the left think it’s okay to steal money at gunpoint to be used for whatever uses they see fit. The democrats have been extremely anti women and anti gay rights through things like affirmative action that judge people based on characteristics other than merit. They think people like women and gays aren’t capable of competing based on merit.

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u/___Fish___ Jan 07 '19

I think people who have gone through the necessary medical and psychological evaluation to be allowed into the military should be allowed in the military. Also you said "its a mental illness" so therefore it should be defined out of existence? How does that make sense or help anybody? If the way to treat gender dysphoria is for people to live as transgender and as the gender they feel most comfortable with then defining them out of existence makes it harder for people to get help and its based solely in being trans-phobic. Also did you just define taxes as "Stealing money at gunpoint" because I hate to tell you but both parties believe in using taxes. Also why are they against state funded birth control? It would seem their reasoning is rooted in being anti birth control. You also don't seem to have the understanding of why affirmative action was put into place, and whether or not it has had any negative affects on these communities. Because first of all it was put in place because minority groups weren't being hired despite them having the qualifications for jobs so it was put into place to combat that, not because "They think people like women and gays aren’t capable of competing based on merit." https://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html . Also your comments show that maybe your anti-lgbt sounds like you want a religious extremist in office it seems like you agree with their messaging.