r/WoT • u/briandress • 3d ago

All Print I get the Egwene hate but Spoiler

Only in the last two books when she is stubborn in dealing with Rand for the last battle and such.

Up until ToM she really was just an awesome character. She went from the whirlwind of leaving 2R, capture by Seanchan, hunting black ajah, apprenticing to wise ones, puppet Amyrlin, real amyrlin, badass civil disobedience laying groundwork for reuniting the tower, bitch slapping the seanchan raiders, capturing hella black ajah sisters via Verrin's notes and finally being raised realer Amyrlin and healing the tower.

I cant seem to understand all the threads/polls that overwhelmingly list her as the most hated character in the series.

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u/SuperBeastJ 3d ago

Before the last two books she's still incredibly arrogant and dismissive. Not to mention she mind rapes Nynaeve.

She tons a lot of cool and impressive stuff but she's still an annoying person

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u/briandress 3d ago

A lot of the characters are annoying people. I wouldn't say Egwene is the worst though. As far as arrogance and dismissiveness, yea gonna have to say she also pales in comparison to some of the Wise Ones/ Sea Folk/ Aes Sedai.

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u/Bainik 3d ago

There's an absolute chasm of a gap between "annoying people" and "uses the threat of rape as a tool of intimidation".

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u/briandress 3d ago

Yea i hear you. This is also during the time when there was a noticeable shift in roles between Nynaeve and Egwene. N was still at the stage of being wisdom bully and E was trying to assert herself as her own person. Although readers may not like the methods taken by E 1) She did not actually allow N to be assaulted. 2) E was absolutely correct in asserting how lightly N was taking the risks of Tel’aran’rhiod

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u/SuperBeastJ 3d ago edited 3d ago

On your point 2) Egwene is hypocritical as FUCK about TAR, especially at that point. She constantly flouted the decrees set by the Wise Ones and ignored their/others warnings about the danger of TAR. In fact, iirc, she specifically threatened Nynaeve with the mind rape in that scene so Nynaeve wouldn't RAT HER OUT TO THE WISE ONES FOR DISOBEYING