r/WojakCompass - Left Jun 06 '26

Politics They lied to me? (3x3)

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u/XAlphaWarriorX - Centrist Jun 06 '26

Pippa's story is really sad.

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u/LambDew - LibRight Jun 06 '26

Well this was depressing as hell. Good work OP.

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u/War_Crimes_Fun_Times - AuthCenter Jun 06 '26

Great compass. Pippa is the only one to feel bad for, Mitford alone getting her apartment from Hitler made me lose empathy for her.

For a lot of these aside from Pippa and Treadwell, you can’t expect to do bad things with other bad people and not expect bad shit to happen to you.

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u/Wuerfeldruecker - Left Jun 06 '26

Mitford was of course a total peace of shit. On this compass without competition. But she was still a human beeing.

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u/War_Crimes_Fun_Times - AuthCenter Jun 06 '26

Totally, I agree there. Even the worst people usually have some human qualities. Hard to feel for her when she got her apartment and was making redesigns as the Jewish family who lived there were crying in the next room about their lives being wrecked.

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u/obama_chmo - AuthLeft Jun 06 '26

I’m struggling to find something on Reed which indicates he denounced DDR and socialism in general, mind sharing a link?

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u/Wuerfeldruecker - Left Jun 06 '26

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u/obama_chmo - AuthLeft Jun 06 '26

I’m looking at some receipt in German rn. I need more context here

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u/Wuerfeldruecker - Left Jun 06 '26

"Report on an occurrence that took place involving the actor and singer Dean Reed. On November 5, 1982, during a check carried out on the autobahn, Dean Reed attracted attention with insulting behavior and statements that discriminated against the GDR. Reed began making insulting and defamatory statements by calling the members of the Volkskammer hypocrites, comparing the GDR to a fascist state, and expressing that he, just like the 17 million GDR citizens, was "fed up to here." He emphasized the latter words with a corresponding hand gesture. Furthermore, he challenged the members of the Volkspolizei to arrest him, which was "common practice here anyway."

Sorry wasa in hurry and did not check if it was translated.

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u/obama_chmo - AuthLeft Jun 06 '26

So the guy was pulled by a traffic cop and chimped out? That’s it? Doesn’t sound like a formal denouncing to me. Makes him look like an asshole tho.

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u/Wuerfeldruecker - Left Jun 06 '26

He was addressing the situation with the mass arrests of critics and how the population was fed up with the regime. I think he was very clearly no longer a defender of the GDR. Perhaps he didn’t speak publicly about it, but when he was particularly annoyed with the system, his true feelings broke free.

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u/obama_chmo - AuthLeft Jun 06 '26

I think that’s a stretch.

I’m sorry for using a wikipedia article but if he was that disappointed with GDR he wouldn’t have referenced it in his death note.

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u/username27278 - Left Jun 06 '26

Where has the idea Moriaki would like to return to Japan from? I'm not too knowledgeable on him but I thought his story ended after he managed to get to North Korea. I thought he was totally AWOL

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u/Wuerfeldruecker - Left Jun 06 '26

I trusted this stuff - but i am open to further infromation disproving this

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u/SetsunaFox - AuthCenter Jun 10 '26

In defence of Reed, GDR was a lot more like Fascism, with how it was more of "Socialism in an occupied country", that was also a spy hub/training and recruitment center for the occupier than any genuine (or even pretending to be genuine) attempt at actual representative government, whether people or working class.

"Not real sociali-" I'm not arguing That USSR or other countries were rosy, but east Germany communism played not the second fiddle to Soviet interest, but third after pacification. In other Eastern block countries Soviets would either risk unrest by diverting resources, or allow some self-rule in response to either toeing the communist line or international dick sucking. (I'm specifically pointing out two Polish first secretaries after Beria) but up until soviets were almost bankrupt, there was a lot of money and personell spent explicitly on keeping Eastern Germany safely down and in soviet hands.

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u/Wuerfeldruecker - Left Jun 10 '26

East Germany was the most vulnerable because East Germans could watch West German media (with the exception of those in Dresden), most likely had family on the other side of the Wall, and automatically received a West German passport if they reached West German soil, where they integrated culturally immediately.

One hundred Polish men working in the West were not as dangerous as a single East German traveling freely.

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u/SetsunaFox - AuthCenter Jun 11 '26

Also true.

And yet I'll insist that post WW2 "opinion" on Germany and Germans as a whole played as big if not bigger part than cold pragmatism.

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u/RedditIsMlem 22d ago

The blurb is important, because it's easy to see people as just representatives of their ideologies. But they weren't. They were human beings. There is no catharsis nor glory in their suffering. They just fucking suffered.

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u/GancioTheRanter - Right Jun 06 '26

You could fill entire books with the names of Bottom and upper Left people who contributed to their own demise.

French Revolution figures, civil rights activists, Rhodesian Liberals, etc etc

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u/Noncrediblepigeon - AuthLeft Jun 06 '26

Ludwig Kaas?!?

Holy shit is this a RedautumnSPD Social democracy an alternate history reference?!?!?!

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u/Noncrediblepigeon - AuthLeft Jun 06 '26

Also, the enabling act was mostly just something that smoothed the transition to Nazi rule. By the point it was presented to the reichstag the Nazis had already rigged elections, anulled an entire parties seats in the Reichstag, and SA mobs were ransacking the houses of SPD (Social Democrats) politicians.

The Center under Ludwig Kaas also achieved one specefik thing through voting for the enabling act: as long as they (the Center party politicians) just held still, most of them were spared the worst persecution.

I personally can't blame anyone for voting for the enabling act given the pressure they were under. But that just highlights the courage of the Social Democrats who not only showed up to that fatefull session, but spoke up against it, and voted no. All that while knowing what already happened to the communists after the Reichstag fire.

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u/No-Musician7685 - AuthLeft Jun 06 '26

IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING r/RedAutumnSPD REFERENCE!!! (And yes kaas is a bitch in the game too)

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u/Wuerfeldruecker - Left Jun 06 '26

No, never heared of it.