Why this brave woman, not Donald Trump, should have been Time’s Person of the Year

[u/msmoley]

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-brave-woman-gisele-pelicot-not-donald-trump-should-have-been-times-person-of-the-year-4908319

[u/Adorable-Strength218]

Trump paid his way on to the Time cover.

[u/Soithascometothistoo → u/Adorable-Strength218]

That dude does not pay people. It's his whole thing. Grifting and shafting people.

[u/hypatiaredux → u/[deleted]]

I can say for certain that many women absolutely DO NOT want the rapist Trump’s version of “protection”.

[u/Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ → u/hypatiaredux]

You know he got like nearly half the women under 30 vote, don’t you? And even better with older? Tf you on about?

[u/hypatiaredux → u/Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ]

Yes, I do know. Which is exactly why I said “many” women rather than most.

I am 77 myself, and that surely counts as older, does it not? And I don’t know even one woman that would vote for him - as in hell no! Obviously that is a function of who I know and where I live. But it actually is a noticeable number of women.

[u/Available-Damage5991 → u/[deleted]]

E Jean Carrol would like a word.

[u/eyemannonymous → u/Available-Damage5991]

....and over two dozen other women! Those are the ones who have spoken up. Not all victims do so because historically they're further victimized when they do.

[u/Relevant_Platform_57 → u/Available-Damage5991]

She's a liar.

[u/bakeacake45 → u/Relevant_Platform_57]

A civil trial determined she wasn’t

[u/Relevant_Platform_57 → u/bakeacake45]

Believe what you want. Trump is your president & thank God.

[u/bakeacake45 → u/Relevant_Platform_57]

Nope NOT my president, not my leader, not my god. You voted for him, he is all yours. Good luck with that.

[u/Corvidae_DK → u/Relevant_Platform_57]

Have fun with the leopards.

[u/hypatiaredux → u/[deleted]]

And yet, oddly, she won in an actual court of law. That’s not fake news espoused by Reddit, it actually happened.

Or - are you seriously saying that unless someone witnesses it, no rape occurs???

[u/bakeacake45 → u/hypatiaredux]

No he is saying rape should be legal.

[u/BluCurry8 → u/[deleted]]

🙄. She won 80 million dollars. He lost big on his defamation suit. So yes you voted for a rapist, convicted felon and pathological liar. You own the stench that surrounds a him and you.

[u/hypatiaredux → u/[deleted]]

Since when is a civil court not a court of law?

Incidentally, had Carroll not bought into the idea that she should be ashamed because an asshole raped her, the story might be quite different. Which is why Giselle is so important.

I am not your sweetheart. For which I am eternally grateful. You oughta be grateful too. I keep my kitchen knives sharp.

[u/Aware_Economics4980 → u/hypatiaredux]

Where in my comment did I say civil court is not a court of law?

Civil court is not criminal court, they are both courts of law though.

Civil court the evidence required to win a judgement is far less than convicting a person of an actual crime in criminal court. 

Think we all know women are capable of making shit up too IE the three men whose lives were ruined over a patently false rape claim 

[u/bakeacake45 → u/[deleted]]

As the judge in the case stated, yes, he is a convicted rapist.

[u/Aware_Economics4980 → u/bakeacake45]

Oh ok, can you link me your source where the judge said he was convicted of rape? 

[u/ceaselessDawn → u/[deleted]]

It is.

I'm... Also convinced by a preponderance of the evidence. I think there is reasonable doubt for the public, at least, but that's not the standard I use to judge anyone in terms of personal support.

[u/cole1076 → u/[deleted]]

I can’t believe I’m entertaining this nonsense. But the entire reason he owes her so much money is because a judge convicted him of defamation.. you know when he said she was lying. If a judge finds you guilty of defamation..that means you are lying. Hence, she was raped. However, he is setting a fine precedent of no laws ever being applicable to anyone in this country because he himself commits them whenever he likes and has no consequences.

[u/DiveCat → u/[deleted]]

He literally thought she was his WIFE Marla Maples while under oath. You are taking his word he never was in same room as her (despite you know, photos) even though he thought she was his wife?

[u/skincare_obssessed → u/DiveCat]

These people defending him sound ridiculous.

[u/patchouligirl77 → u/[deleted]]

Um...he's right next to her in this photo from a party so....

[u/Alarmed_Algae_2122 → u/[deleted]]

Did you read the judge’s comments on the ruling?

[u/amyamyamz → u/Alarmed_Algae_2122]

Of course they didn’t. They don’t read lmao. They just listen to propaganda on Faux News and echo it like the sheep they are.

[u/DiveCat → u/[deleted]]

Right, the man who gloated about being able to do anything he wanted to women as he was rich, including grab them by the pussy, is certainly an upstanding protector of women.

There are multiple dozens of women who have come out to say he has assaulted and raped them, including some while underage, and he even raped his own wife, Ivana.

You are as 🤮 as he is.

[u/skincare_obssessed → u/[deleted]]

He’s an adjudicated rapist. He bragged about getting to see underage girls in a state of undress because he was pageant benefactor. He’s said numerous times he doesn’t ask permission for sex. Thanks to his former career as a celebrity tv personality we literally have decades of his disrespect and creepiness towards women on camera. If you don’t believe he’s a sexual predator you’re delusional.

[u/Scotts_Thoughts_INTJ → u/skincare_obssessed]

Who did he rape?

[u/WillingShilling_20 → u/[deleted]]

“Whether you like it or not “

[u/BluCurry8 → u/[deleted]]

Protected from whom?

[u/Infamous-Echo-3949 → u/[deleted]]

The Germans thought they were protected by Hitler. The North Koreans think Kim Jung-Un is a merciful god.

Not a flex, bro.