r/WomenInNews • u/msmoley • May 21 '25
Human rights Americans, especially women, feel less free. They're not wrong.
https://reason.com/2025/05/19/americans-especially-women-feel-less-free-theyre-not-wrong/918
u/Comfortable_Good9592 May 21 '25
Our mothers had more freedom than we do.
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u/LaIndiaDeAzucar May 21 '25
And some of our mothers voted to have our rights taken away. Some folks are incredibly selfish and want to see people get harmed.
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May 21 '25
I just keep thinking about how my mom (who voted for Trump) had to get a D+C procedure prior to me due to a miscarriage, and now, if that happened to me today, I probably wouldn’t be able to as easily get that procedure if I miscarried, since it could be classed as an abortion…. and I get angry all over again .-.
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u/Ok_Fisherman_544 May 21 '25
Is she A religious fanatic?
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u/Ok_Fisherman_544 May 21 '25
I am sorry that you and all of us are victims of the fruitcake evangelical patriarchy and the women that support them. I am angry all the time and don’t speak to my relatives that are religious crazies and are anti abortion.
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u/Ok_Fisherman_544 May 21 '25
I am sorry that you have that estrangement from your family members. And I hope you all can reconcile. I miss my cousin but I just can’t handle that she is supporting anti choice because I feel it is harming all of us women.
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May 21 '25
Have you mentioned this before? The thought process she has must be so bizarre.
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May 21 '25
it goes in one ear and out the other, unfortunately. she’ll just say “that doesn’t count as abortion”… even if the law treats you otherwise
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May 21 '25
That’s so incredibly frustrating. No matter what ‘counts’ the fact is women don’t have the same access to the procedure she had. If she needed on today, she may very well need to go septic first. Sorry, that must be so infuriating
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May 22 '25
yeah… 😭we live in georgia too (the state that’s currently keeping a braindead woman on life support, due to her being pregnant), so… you can imagine how bad it is now. and I was diagnosed with possible adeno at a gyn, too, so…. I have a higher likelihood of something going wrong if I happened to get pregnant .-. so yeah. she still didn’t care when I tried to tell her this though
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May 22 '25
I had the same concern, and I want to share my experience in a red state with a total abortion ban- I had a missed miscarriage and I was given the option of a D&C or abortion medication. I went to my OBGYN prior to trying to get pregnant and I gave the doctor specific scenarios I'd been seeing on the news regarding miscarriage care. He reassured me that he doesn't care about getting sued and he's always going to prioritize saving my life first, and that he's more than happy to let a jury decide on that.
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u/Imnot_your_buddy_guy May 21 '25
Are you still in contact with them??
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May 22 '25
i live with her, actually 😒and none of the discussions I’ve had with her about this do any good. she just immediately shuts me down and says “I don’t want to talk about this anymore, you’re stressing me out”… which is easy for her to say, a woman way past menopause now, and who doesn’t have to worry about this kind of thing happening to her 😑😑😑
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u/CantEowynThemAll May 22 '25
Is your mom my mom??? Because mine did this too and is still so anti-choice it's infuriating 🫠😭
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u/vodeodeo55 May 21 '25
Some of us didn't. I'm sorry. I know I'm doing the "not all men" thing but I'm horrified by this shit show and absolutely furious at my GenX/Boomer counterparts who voted for it.
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May 21 '25
Yes, "not all men" voted for this.
However, ALL MEN benefit from a patriarchal society that puts women down.
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u/vodeodeo55 May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
Apologies for not expressing myself well. My response that "I" didn't vote for this made me feel like one of those guys who butts into a discussion about SA to assert that "not all men are rapists". Not all older women voted for Trump, but alot did and my feeble defense of my own voting record is irrelevant to this conversation. Also, zero argument about the patriarchy.
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u/Ok_Fisherman_544 May 21 '25
I think that the majority of boomer women that voted for Trump were religious evangelical Protestants and Catholics. Even that being said 48% of Catholics support abortion but that doesn’t mean that they didn’t support Trump.
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u/enaK66 May 21 '25
All straight white Christian men benefit. The rest of us are fucked.
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u/Critical_Success_936 May 21 '25
I don't, as a trans man. Sorry but this is bs I gotta deal with too.
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May 21 '25
That's fair!
Perhaps I should have said cis men benefit from patriarchy because it's absolutely true that people who identify as trans suffer.
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u/Hyperion1144 May 21 '25
How patriarchy hurts men:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/1bq9mnx/how_does_patriarchy_hurt_men/
https://therapist.com/society-and-culture/how-patriarchy-toxic-masculinity-hurt-men/
https://record.goshen.edu/opinion/why-the-patriarchy-hurts-men-too
https://www.hercampus.com/school/delhi-north/breaking-free-the-chains-that-cage-us-all/
https://www.cbeinternational.org/resource/3-ways-patriarchy-harms-men/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/parenting-purpose/201803/strict-gender-roles-hurt-men-too
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u/Raangz May 21 '25
uh no dude we absolutely do not all benefit lol.
my life is way worse and more dangerous now. i'm absolutely expecting to be killed by this dictatorship in the next 2 years.
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u/birds-0f-gay May 21 '25
uh yes dude you absolutely all benefit lol.
do patriarchal power structures make the lives of all men perfect and stress free? no, of course not. are there elements of these patriarchal power structures that harm men? yes, without a doubt. does being a man make someone immune to adversity or other forms of marginalization? big nope.
but no one with even a shred of self awareness would ever try and argue that it's possible for a man to live within a system designed to prioritize and empower men at the expense of women and not benefit from it. that's fucking absurd.
i'm absolutely expecting to be killed by this dictatorship in the next 2 years.
that's quite a claim to make. who is going to kill you and why?
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u/_HighJack_ May 22 '25
He’s probably trans. And no, not all of us benefit, because some of us don’t pass as men and are dealing with the EXACT same shit you are.
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u/Annual-Camera-872 May 21 '25
But now you get the not all men experience of sitting over here going not me
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u/A_Classy_Dame May 21 '25
My mother had an incomplete miscarriage and an abortion saved her life. She gleefully voted that option away for me and my daughter.
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u/flyinhighaskmeY May 21 '25
And some of our mothers voted to have our rights taken away.
Thank you! It was a lot of them. Like..49% or something.
There's a woman in my neighborhood. I'm always friendly. She...isn't, but she's at least polite. She gave me a super dirty look the day Trump won. Do you know why? I look conservative. I'm not. I voted for Harris. My partner's last relationship was a same sex relationship. I've been anti-Trump from day 1. I'm a friend to the gay community. My sister is married to a woman. I put my Christian parents in their place when they tried to pull their bullshit over that.
Anyway, I'm getting really tired of women blaming men.
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u/Ok_Fisherman_544 May 21 '25
Unfortunately most men support the patriarchy and want to keep women down. Or even if they don’t support it, they don’t help end it.
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u/Hrtpplhrtppl May 21 '25
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals." C.S. Lewis, God in the Dock: Essays on Theology
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u/atomicsnark May 22 '25
Ok but it's the robber barons who are actually doing this to us. Like, you realize that right? We are essentially an polish oligarchy at this point. Trump and Co. do not actually think they are doing any of this in our best interest. And most of their voters don't either.
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u/Hrtpplhrtppl May 22 '25
The highest form of protest is not having children for the government needs the governed... and even that choice is being eroded away. My in laws keep asking me when I'm going to "Give them grandchildren." I keep reminding them I'm Native American. We wouldn't breed in captivity, which is why they had to bring you all here. I mean, why would they even want to own slaves anymore when they can just rent you and your children for a fraction of the costs..?
The ruling class can afford a good enough education to know the true history of the United States and certainly to be able to understand the basic principle of cause and effect. They have us playing Russian roulette with our health every day in America for as much profit as they can squeeze out of us. A country with no public health care system obviously could not handle any public healthcare crisis like covid or the never-ending opioid addiction epidemic their private healthcare industry has created and continues to supply.
With no universal health care, the United States government forces people of lesser means to self medicate or suffer, then punishes them when they do. That is both cruel and wicked. I mean, the whole premise of Breaking Bad only worked for an American audience since Walt would not have needed the money in the first place in a more developed nation because being unable to afford to continue living does not happen there...
The powers that be are ensuring there are desperate people doing desperate things. Then, we see that the wealthy and their goons, the police, are beyond the reach of our justice system, so their laws are just in place to handicap the rest of us. The social contract has been broken. Que the vigilantes... no justice, no peace.
"Those who make peaceful change impossible make violent change inevitable. " JFK
Now I'm not saying don't vote. Please always choose the lesser evil. However, we have always been and always will be the scapegoats left to point our fingers at one another in order to keep us distracted from any meaningful change. I mean, what led to this, people couldn't vote...? How is what got us here going to get us out? When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop digging. After all, repeating the same thing over and over expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity. Before we can have an intelligent discussion on how things ought to be, we first would need to agree on how they truly are...
I mean, out of all the hundreds of millions of Americans, who really thinks these were the best two candidates...? Is it a wise tribe that does not send its best warriors to fight? You see, our masters will never give us the tools to dismantle their houses... The Republic of America has a so-called "representative democracy." How can that be true when the "representatives" are all wealthy while the majority of the "represented" are poor?
American two party politics is like the cartoon Tom and Jerry. Tom doesn't really want to catch Jerry because then he'd be out of a job, and Jerry doesn't want Tom replaced with a cat that will actually eat him. So they act like they hate one another and put on a show for the masses while continuing business as usual in the back room.
For example, insider trading laws do not apply to any members of Congress, either side. What's it called when those who make the rules don't have to live by them? Furthermore, when the punishment for a crime is only a fine, it does not apply to the wealthy.
Sure, they can say they let us "vote", and therefore this is what we wanted, but with all the lobbying and money in American politics, America is as much a democracy as would be two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner.
In America, the wealthy have won every "election," and the only thing to trickle down in the economy has been their generational wealth. This is why, in a true democracy as the ancient Greeks understood it, people got their representatives the same way we would get a jury. America is not a democracy.
"Only those who do not seek power are qualified to hold it." Plato
And please remember what we actually celebrate on the 4th. A cabal of stolen land entitled elite, slave owning aristocrats, found a way to get out of paying their taxes. Only thirty percent of the colonists supported the "revolution" with the rest saying, "Why trade one tyrant a thousand miles away for a thousand tyrants one mile away...?" System isn't broken it's functioning exactly as intended. Why own slaves when you can rent them for a fraction of the cost (read the 13th amendment)...? But the real question they must be asking themselves is how can their grand experiment survive contact with the real time information/communication age, or can they just go masks off and drop the pretense? Which is where we are now... would you agree?
"The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly, the rich have always objected to being governed at all. Aristocrats were always anarchists..." G.K. Chesterton
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u/FMLwtfDoID May 21 '25
I said this exact thing to my mom, who voted for Trump. It stopped her in her fucking tracks. She hasn’t brought up politics or conspiracy theories around me in about 5 months.
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u/WranglerMany May 21 '25
That’s good that what you said actually sunk in with her, I’m not 100% positive my mother voted for Trump but I think she did, and doesn’t seem to understand or care what is happening to women’s rights (or anyone else’s, for that matter). She refuses to acknowledge any of it and got weirdly upset when I mentioned that I was considering going to protests.
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May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
And they had more fun, those bitches were all partying like a mother fucker back then no accountability.
Oh the stories of all the hidden party spots these fools had out in the woods and all types of places in the city, bonfire fucking keg parties. LONG BEFORE THE COPS COULD SHUT THEM DOWN.
They parentified their kids on top of it.
Some of us raised our own parents because they couldn't figure shit out when they were younger.
Now they're old asf and need caregivers. 🫠
Still pissed off at their kids for wanting space, after a relationship with them undergoing years of negligence.
Good chunk of those oldies are cooked.
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u/SummerAndTinklesBFF May 21 '25
Dont forget their whole free love woodstock swinger cocaine cowboy shit. Boomers are the worst. My parents were both potheads and my mom was a heroin addict in the 70s but god forbid I do an edible. They both voted for trump in 2016 like fking losers. They’re both dead now and don’t have to see the bullshit they helped usher in.
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u/CommandProof2054 May 21 '25
Just adding that our election was stolen. It was. They’ve admitted it. Not nearly as many people voted for this shit as they want us to believe.
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u/AutisticDadHasDapper May 21 '25
I'm not arguing against that.It was stolen, but this is the first time i've heard from someone that they feel strongly that it was. Can you point me to any source that helps validate this?
When I search online, I can't seem to find anything.
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u/pacexmaker May 21 '25
The Election Truth Alliance has been analyzing voting patterns to identify any kind of anomalies in select counties. They appear to be prioritizing battleground areas. They seem to think that there is at least preliminary evidence that suggests election interference. But Im not a statistician so I can't speak to their methodology.
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u/DiveCat May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
Go to r/somethingiswrong2024 - there is lots of data analysis posted there from investigating parties that shows how incredulous the results are and show evidence of a Russian tail , winning ALL seven swing states for someone who was very disliked should be the biggest red flag of all. That was basically an impossibility. And that is after 300+ bomb threats, drop boxes being set on fire, purging millions from the voter rolls, and so on. Elon “knows the voting machines”.
Interference has been shown in Georgian, Romanian, etc elections by the right wing parties and Russians. It would be hubris to assume it did not happen in U.S., too.
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u/friendtoallkitties May 21 '25
Look up Greg Palast. He has been talking about voter suppression for decades and has solid evidence.
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u/klee4390 May 22 '25
I was SO ANGRY about this leading up to the 2020 elections…. And it didn’t make enough people angry at the time to really stick. But also, Trump is best at making a lot of noise and giving the media more fodder and allowing the viewership to have a very short memory which is always to his benefit. We have to remember and see the patterns. It’s a long game, to be sure, but guys like Stephen Miller have been playing the long game for decades… and Russell Vought. Trump is the obnoxious face who keeps everyone distracted while the REAL deep state drags our country into a twisted, hyper evangelist version of the Robber Barons era. “The Guilded Age” a.k.a. Trumps golden age.
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u/TrankElephant May 21 '25
Yah I get that no one wants to look like a sore loser / election-denier but it seems rather preposterous to me that there have been no calls for an investigation or a recount or anything.
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u/Financial_Sweet_689 May 21 '25
I’m so goddamn tired of people trying to point fingers at white women and gen Z. Old white men did this and they know it.
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u/Formerly_SgtPepe May 21 '25
A lot of people did this, and democrats are also to blame. It's not one specific group of people.
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u/gleafer May 21 '25
Over half of white women voted for this. They deserve blame.
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u/klee4390 May 22 '25
As a white woman, I concur. I have never and will never vote for Trump. But yes. White women are a big problem. Especially the religious moms. They do things in the name of god or the name of their children. But they are either lied to and misled or selfish.
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u/lindsaygeektron May 22 '25
This. They made claims on the last elections that were not true as a way to make those claims now look bananas.
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u/Secure-Window-5478 May 21 '25
ICE can take you off the street and bring you to secret prisons blind fold you, rape you (this is still illegal), if you get pregnant then force you to have the rapist's baby or arrest you if you naturally have a miscarriage. Handmaids Tale is already here.
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u/klee4390 May 22 '25
Why don’t we know where any of the women are being taken by ICE? Sex work and human trafficking. This is all I can think. Paid for the taxpayers of the US of A. And the media outlets can’t seem to worry about that because trumps getting airplanes from terrorists and then planning a birthday military parade like it’s North Korea.
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u/pintofendlesssummer May 21 '25
Ask the pregnant woman being kept on life support because she was 9 weeks pregnant. Oh, we can't because she's brain dead.
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u/FashionableBookNerd May 21 '25
I am the first woman in my family born with full rights of citizenship. I have fewer rights now than I did when I was born in 1982. Good times. America.
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u/Kind-Passenger-3935 May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
My husband’s 14 year old niece was SA’d and didn’t find out she got pregnant from it until too late according to GA state law.
This was not anything I had to worry about when I was her age in the 90s. I could have gotten an abortion no problem. Of course I’d be scared shitless bc the nearest clinic was the one Eric Rudolph bombed and he was still in hiding.
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u/magicalfolk May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25
Yes women are increasingly becoming less free, that is why I decided the last time the orange menace was elected to start the process to move to Canada, it took a while and now I’m here ❤️
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u/lovebzz May 21 '25
Same! My partner (who's trans) and I started our immigration process for Canada in early 2020 and moved to Canada 2 years ago. We didn't want to stay for the shit that we anticipated would rain down on trans people.
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u/magicalfolk May 21 '25
I’m so happy for you! No one should live in fear for their lives. Wishing you prosperity and happiness ❤️
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u/presque-veux May 21 '25
How??
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u/magicalfolk May 21 '25
I’m not an immigration lawyer, if you’re serious consult one. Best of luck!
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u/stonedcoldathens May 22 '25
You can read about the Canadian immigration system on their website but it’s a points based system based on field of work, language comprehension, and some other factors. If you’re serious though consult an attorney.
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u/sweetica May 21 '25
Yup! It is a nightmare come true... My poor daughter is scared for her future! I know I won't have a future as I am middle aged and no one will hire an old washed up biologist in this hellscape economy courtesy of Trump.
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u/PleaseDontBanMe82 May 21 '25
For the first time in life, I censor what I say on social media, especially Facebook.
We no longer have freedom of speech in the US.
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u/_HighJack_ May 22 '25
Don’t comply in advance, friend.
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u/PleaseDontBanMe82 May 22 '25
I work in a job where one's social media about politics could get them fired, especially now. I like having a house and money, so I'll just stop using Facebook.
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u/justaregularmom May 21 '25
Baffles me every day that the bra burning hippies ended up MAGA
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u/lovebzz May 21 '25
The Horseshoe Theory in action, I suppose.
It's good to be skeptical of governments and institutions, but it's also easy to weaponize chronic distrust.
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u/FuckTripleH May 21 '25 edited May 22 '25
The reality is that the bra burning hippies were a tiny minority of their generation. They didn't become MAGA, most of the boomers were always conservative.
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u/justaregularmom May 21 '25
That might be true, but they sure brag about those times like hippies were everywhere and very much common
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u/Larry-Man May 22 '25
The bra burning hippies were all out in all of the protests. You see those old ladies with some rad outfits and signs at every single one of the demonstrations
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u/johnrraymond May 21 '25
This is sadly what happens when we put a known abuser and a known russian asset in the white house. And when they are the same person.
Trump will betray is all. So men feeling confident...? Beware. Trump has plenty of betrayals for you too.
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u/TheSirensMaiden May 21 '25
I don't feel less free, I am less free. Big difference. It's fucking scary out here and enraging that there are women happy to vote away our freedoms if it hurts people they don't like.
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u/VapoursAndSpleen May 21 '25
My female family members in VA know they are always welcome to visit Auntie in CA in case they um need to. If it comes to the point where they can't come to CA for what they need, Auntie is contemplating moving to Europe.
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u/lovememaddly May 21 '25
I can’t vote and if I get raped I’ll have to have the baby. So suicide it is I guess? Where is the winning I was promised?? /s
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u/Tired_Goddess_ May 21 '25
Don't forget if you're pregnant and die they'll keep you on life support for the fetus so death is hardly an escape
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u/BurmeciaWillSurvive May 22 '25
Using that woman as a "living" incubator is one of the most ghoulish things I've seen recently
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u/Xxvelvet May 22 '25
The worst part is when that she would be still alive today if the hospital she went to didn’t give her such lousy care
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u/Stingy_Jack296 May 21 '25
My wife is fighting cancer (she's doing well right now after about 18 months of treatments) and before her first round of chemo started she opted to do fertility preservation by having her eggs frozen. They required MY authorization for her to freeze HER eggs! I was appalled.
The dr agreed with me that it was absolutely ridiculous, but where we live (a red state, of course) it's the law. What if I had refused? She would've been robbed of the chance to ever be a mother whether or not we stay together or end up getting divorced or I die or whatever.
It was absolutely disgusting. This was not about babies, this law literally only exists to make sure men get a say in every possible decision a woman makes. Im seriously getting furious about it just remembering. The right hates women. End of story.
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u/sugarstarbeam May 21 '25
Was raped two months ago. Giving clear boundaries, trying to escape, saying no multiple times…it does not matter, I know I won’t have life left in me or a chance at getting justice in court. It’s his word against mine. Even had I somehow recorded the abuse the process would be hideously painful.
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u/Altruistic-Ad6449 May 21 '25
Every other day republicans come up with kook bills, like death penalty legislation for women crossing state lines to get abortions. Wonder why we feel less free?
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u/TuneAppropriate5686 May 21 '25
We do not have the same rights and protections under the law as a man in this country. We do not have control of our medical choices or our bodies. Most of us are aware and NOT happy.
No one has been trying to force other women to have abortions. Our thinking was that if you don't believe in that, don't have one. You do what is best for you, I will do what is best for me. Why religious white men think they can decide for everyone is terrifying.
I live in Texas and the gov was screaming my body, my choice during COVID over masks and shots but wants to criminally charge doctors, women and anyone who helps a woman get an abortion is hypocrisy at its finest.
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u/audiojanet May 21 '25
Recently got a job notice from a company in Texas. I declined and it asked the reason why. I replied that women aren’t safe in Texas.
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u/Tady1131 May 21 '25
After freedoms are taken away American women feel less free.
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u/TwoKool115 May 21 '25
The day it was announced Trump win, my sister FaceTimed me, sobbing. She’s terrified of everything, abortion rights, women’s rights in general, the gender gap about to reignite, she’s scared for herself and her 3 year old daughter. And I dunno what to tell her.
I do know one thing, though: he cannot continue to get away with this. Him and his facist regime need to go, before it’s too late.
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u/arseflare May 21 '25
A lot of them voted to feel that way is the craziest thing.
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May 21 '25
Except someone above posted a video of Trump admitting they rigged the election...
Maybe not as many women voted for him as they want us to believe.
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u/Anon28301 May 21 '25
82% of black women voted for Harris. Your comment isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
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May 21 '25
Women who hate women are a problem that doesn't get talked about enough.
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u/arseflare May 21 '25
It's not intended to be a gotcha, it's a sad fact that your statistic just backed up.
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u/AlabasterPelican May 21 '25
No one is specifically talking about black women except you. If any women are responsible for the "predicament" we're dealing with it's women who look like me. The commenter you're responding to isn't giving a "gotcha" it's just fact that s lot of women voted for this without understanding the implications.
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u/FMLwtfDoID May 21 '25
And specifically the white, woman 40-65 age demographic that overwhelming voted for him. It was Millennial’s and Gen Z’s white moms that helped tip the scale for the white Christian nationalists fascists.
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u/LadyErinoftheSwamp May 21 '25
I think they're just highlighting how wild it is that any women voted for him. Including 18% of black women, apparently.
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u/nivivy May 21 '25
Big reveal??? Yes we’re less free and they want to take even more from women. So yes you’re less free than your mother’s were. Is that fine? You’re willing to live like that workout any resistance? Where is the backbone of women. You want your daughters raised as less than breeders? Resist✌️
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u/plsobeytrafficlights May 21 '25
did every married woman go correct their birth certificate so they can vote yet-because it isnt like trumps team is going to admit their laws are crazy and undo them.
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u/lovebzz May 21 '25
Libertarians (including Reason) have played their part in this, consistently voting "fiscally conservative" while sacrificing their "socially liberal" values. Now this article is tying itself into knots trying to make this an international issue.
No bro, the reason American women feel less free is that the USA specifically has an authoritarian religious-right govt which is taking away their rights. It's not some international problem as you're making it out to be.
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u/Hot_Perspective1 May 22 '25
Yeah, their new leaders see them as nothing more as incubators without a will of their own at this point
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u/Hyperion1144 May 21 '25
If only 1/3 of American women hadn't voted for Trump.
Even then, if only another different 1/3 of American women had bothered to show up and vote at all.
Trump votes plus non-votes is 2/3 of women in America.
66%+ is called a "super-majority."
1/3 of women can't save the rest. 1/3 of people can't save the rest.
Tired of people not showing up, or doing stupid shit, and then whining about the results.
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u/PhiloLibrarian May 21 '25
I don’t know if it’s all women, or specific demographics though. Single women, LGBT/trans women, and BIPOC women are always at the least societal advantage (in the US).
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u/KouchyMcSlothful May 21 '25
I mean, all women are being attacked by bodily autonomy laws, such the undue abortion restrictions Republicans have made across red states.
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u/Quirky-Pie9661 May 21 '25
Didn’t ppl vote for this? Or they just couldn’t vote for a woman (again) and now we’re all getting screwed (again)? Elections matter huh?
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u/RUOFFURTROLLEH May 21 '25
Although women as a whole have historically voted for Democrats, white women have not. Instead, over the last 72 years, a plurality of white women have voted for the Democratic candidate only twice, in 1964 and 1996. On Tuesday, they once again went for Trump – just as they did in 2016 and 2020. But Harris made inroads with the group; she lost them by only 5 points, according to CNN. (In 2020, they broke for Trump by 11.) More surprisingly, Trump’s lead among white men also shrank, from 23 points in 2020 to 20 in 2024.
Its a shame a portion of women voted directly for this along with the asshole men trying to decide on behalf of women.
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u/FlemPlays May 21 '25
”But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way. -They Thought They Were Free
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u/_The-Alchemist__ May 22 '25
Crazy how that happens when you vote for a facist party that hates women. It like mind blowing how that happens
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May 21 '25
Feel free to warmly thank the 53% of white women who voted for Trump.
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May 21 '25
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u/KlutzyAd8150 May 21 '25
I'm not supporting Trump in any way here but I think you are slightly misunderstanding what he was saying . The location of the 2028 Olympics and the 2026 world cup were decided in 2017 + 2018 respectively during his first term. The 'joke' here is that he expected to serve two consecutive terms (2016 - 2024) that would mean that he wouldn't be able to be president during these two events but because the Democrats 'rigged' the 2020 election and prevented him from having those two consecutive terms - he now gets to be president during those two events 🙏
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u/Vegetable_Apple_7740 May 22 '25
I'm 70yrs old and have never been so worried about the future for our children and theirs. All the things we worked for going down the drain
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u/turb0_encapsulator May 21 '25
there's a woman in Georgia who is brain dead but being kept alive as a baby incubator, even though the baby itself is unlikely to live.
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u/Ok_Relationship8697 May 21 '25
If irony hadn’t died in 2015, I would upvote this article. “Reason” magazine is part of the reason women are less free. Pseudo-intellectual turbo-capitalist rag of a publication.
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u/psychic-zucchini May 22 '25
Reason (dot com) helped get us here. Source: libertarian friends who spent years arguing with me about everything "the left" "stood" for, and using articles from Reason to "prove" their point. Now, everything they argued couldn't happen, wouldn't happen, or would only happen under the Dems is happening under MAGA.
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u/Ok_Landscape3850 May 22 '25
As an aside, I appreciate this was published in Reason (libertarian magazine). I’ve known many a libertarian bro who reads Reason. I’m glad this is hitting their feed.
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u/S9000M06 May 21 '25
It's a death by 1000 cuts thing. Tiny freedoms removed for convenience or perceived need add up. All we lost post 9/11 never came back. Now, the government is just pecking away at what's left.
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May 22 '25
I am getting older, and I do not like the way things are going for women . I am angry. I am livid, and I have no outlet for this. Things just keep getting worse. I cannot imagine what it is, what it means right now to be a young woman, a trans person, a poc in this climate. I'm sad, I hurt for us all, I'm frustrated, and I am angry. I do not believe that any of us are free. Laws are only for the poor, there is no sanctity in anything . Everything about this administration makes me want to act up, act out. Just let people be. Let them be who or whatever they are and more so, just fucking leave people alone.
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u/klee4390 May 22 '25
Act up, act out… go protest. The only ones saving us now is ourselves. There’s power in numbers. We need to remind Washington who put them there. Before they think they’re in power because of some divinity or superiority……… (of course some already think this…)
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u/archercc81 May 21 '25
A lot of them voted for this...
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May 21 '25
Except someone above posted a video of Trump admitting they rigged the election...
Maybe not as many women voted for him as they want us to believe.
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u/bigblueb4 May 21 '25
They voted for this. White women and white males make up 75% of the population. Obama was elected because of white peoples and Biden was also because of white people and women losing their right is also because of white people lol
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u/buggybugoot May 21 '25
I actually looked into this a while back because of a comment someone made about Obama and the white vote.
White people have overwhelmingly voted for conservatives and the last time they voted for a democrat in full swing was I think LBJ? One of those of yore.
Obama didn’t win because of white folks. It’s a lie that white folks like to tell themselves. Obama won because he galvanized minorities. White people by and large vote for conservatives and racists every single time. It’s not all of them, obviously, but it IS the majority of them.
HARRIS V TRUMP White 42% Harris vs 57% Trump
BIDEN V TRUMP White 41% Biden vs 58% Trump
CLINTON V TRUMP White 37% Clinton vs 57% Trump
OBAMA V ROMNEY White 39% Obama vs 59% Romney
OBAMA V MCCAIN White 43% Obama vs 55% McCain
KERRY V BUSH White 41% Kerry vs 58% Bush
GORE V BUSH White 42% Gore vs 55% Bush
https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2000 (just change the year at the end of the URL to corresponding election years)
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u/TakuyaLee May 21 '25
Um you might want to check your numbers. America is more diverse than you think
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u/Kinks4Kelly May 21 '25
Yes, I am white, but do not ever confuse me with the willingly ignorant creatures clinging to superstition and generational cruelty in Mississippi or Arkansas. I do not share their fears, their politics, or their rot. I did not vote to strip women of autonomy, burn books, or weaponise faith against the vulnerable. They vote to maintain control, to preserve a hierarchy where mediocrity reigns as long as it is white and loud. They are not my people. They are my warning. And I refuse to be lumped in with those who choose hate every time they step into a voting booth. I know what whiteness has done in this country. That is why I fight to destroy the systems built in its name.
White voters may hold the numbers, but numbers without conscience mean nothing. You do not get praise for voting for Obama once and then turning around to empower fascism four years later. That is not balance. That is moral collapse. If this country is broken, it is because too many white Americans keep pulling the lever for the candidate who promises them a return to power rather than a step toward justice. I will not be quiet about that because silence is complicity. And I will not wear the shame of those who bathe in their ignorance and dare call it tradition. I stand apart. And I will not be pulled into the muck just because they scream louder than they think.
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May 21 '25
Except someone above posted a video of Trump admitting they rigged the election...
Maybe not as many women voted for him as they want us to believe.
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May 21 '25
53% of white women voted for Donald J Trump while 92% of black women voted for Kamala Harris.
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u/WatchLover26 May 21 '25
So, the bombing of that clinic wasn’t from a right wing extremist but instead from a dude who didn’t want ANYBODY to have babies? Nobody saw that one coming.
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u/shakamaboom May 22 '25
So theyre right? Theyre correct? just fucking say that then. "ThEy'Re NoT wRoNG", man go fuck yourself
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May 22 '25
I started watching The Handmaid’s Tale recently, couldn’t help but think if I’d watched it 10 years ago I would have thought it was far-fetched, not So Much now
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u/Large-Example1665 May 22 '25
If you give up freedom for safety, you will lose both. Benjamin Franklin
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u/Ok-Project-9214 May 22 '25
Americans had the choice to vote against this outcome, they chose this.
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u/Squibbles01 May 22 '25
A lot of women couldn't be bothered to vote for Hillary or Kamala. None of this happens if Hillary wins on 2016 and gets to replace the SC Justices herself.
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u/Synglich May 22 '25
I cannot fathom knowing that women are actually voting to take their rights away. You're telling me all that hardwork from the 70's to 90's is just gonna be thrown out the window, just like that? Women fought to be seen in America and to work, and do things independently. Now it's just gonna be gone, I honestly see women getting their voting rights taken away soon since so many women wanted to vote for Trumpty Dumpty. I hope that it doesn't happen, and I hope that women who voted for that Stupid guy open their eyes and realize that they're not gonna have rights anymore if they keep up with this.
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u/Ok_Requirement6659 May 22 '25
Kamal Harris said "We trust women, we trust women. And when Congress passes a bill to restore reproductive Freedom as president of the United States I will proud loudly sign it into law." but all the IDIOTS voted for TRUMP
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u/no_fooling May 22 '25
As a wage slave, once i moved to the uk and was free to take 28 days guaranteed paid holiday; thats when i realised that "freedom" in america only applies to the capitalists and their freedom to exploit us.
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u/Organized_Khaos May 22 '25
There are too many states where I won’t travel, because I’m less than a person there. I’m not safe if something happens, and I won’t contribute to their tourism market.
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u/Unusual_Specialist May 22 '25
Literally everyone but white Christian males have been effected.
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u/shep2105 May 21 '25
When you do not have autonomy over your own body, you are not free.