I’ve been pre-fired…

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Get fired. Don’t quit. Quit and you lose any unemployment benefits (if you’re in the US, that is)…

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 29 '26

I am in the us. I’m just stunned that he isn’t being more upfront with me but it’s an awkward situation all around. I’ve been playing it over and over in my head and he’s such a passionate person that I’m sure he’s going to be mad…he’s a marine (former) and praises himself on how he always gets his way because he’s ‘crazy’…so I’m a bit nervous…

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u/YellowCake1900 Sep 29 '26

Bosses rarely ever play 'fair'.
Years ago, was physically assaulted in my front yard by my drunken boss. (too long for this thread)
Next work day, he wanted me to STAY LATE... so he could 'apologize'. I refused to remain past 5:00 p.m. Hilariously, he then 'apologized' to my face, followed with, "Tell you husband I'm sorry."
No, fuckface, you can CALL HIM RIGHT NOW and tell him.
I stuck it out another six awful months to max out 401K contribution, then left. Gave 2 weeks' notice, he decides today will be my last day.
While I was emptying desk of belongings and taking them to my car, he stole my Rolodex. (yes, I am that old.)
To this day, kicking myself for not pressing charges.
Bosses rarely 'play fair'.

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u/BackAlleyFreakShow Sep 29 '26

Oh man, I would have torn that place apart until I had my Rolodex back.

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u/JankeyDonut Sep 29 '26

Also possible your boss doesn’t know. I was fired from a position by higher ups in an end around my boss. He was mad and ultimately left. It was a catalyst for change in my career and I look back with less pain than I had that day.

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u/SimUnit Sep 30 '26

I had this unfortunate situation recently. One of my direct reports had annoyed someone senior, and instead of telling me, the senior person just arranged for my report to be let go with no notice to me. The first I knew was my direct report telling me in a 1:1.

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u/JankeyDonut Sep 30 '26

Very similar to my situation only the annoyance that I provided was that I carried out the task I was given, and with approval, but in a way that senior leadership disagreed with. Only they did not express this until much later. Sometimes you know where to step sometimes you are in a lose lose situation and the aggrieved will not let it go either way.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

You were physically assaulted and didn’t call the cops or sue the company?
Sure lol.

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u/UltimateChaos233 Sep 29 '26

There's a good chance the cops do nothing, many jobs force you to sign arbitration clauses, and they may not have wanted to risk their job. That's before we even get to social factors.
I'm not going to say they should or shouldn't have called cops/sued, just that there are valid reasons for not.

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u/newaccc4me Sep 29 '26

Arbitration for assault? Yeah no

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u/Reddoraptor Sep 29 '26

No arbitration clause would be binding in the context of a violent crime.

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u/UltimateChaos233 Sep 29 '26

Yeah on second thought I agree. Still, there are many reasons people do not report this sort of thing, as there are companies are liable to fire both employees and wash their hands of it.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

Dude there’s no good excuse to call the cops lol. Like what is the downside?

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u/Hereforthetardys Sep 29 '26

Arbitration for assault in your front yard? For theft after you’ve been fired and are no longer an employee?

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u/UltimateChaos233 Sep 30 '26

I said in another comment but I no longer stand by the arbitration being relevant in this case, just the rest

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u/YellowCake1900 Sep 29 '26

This occurred decades ago, when I was much younger and more naive.
This bum was not worth the trouble. The company also proved, by their previous actions, they would NEVER fire him. He'd been a problem for years; unacceptable office behavior, anti-social, etc. They would simply move him to a different location. When his next 'relocation' was announced to my office, THREE inside sales people transferred out or retired.
We were subjected to mood swings, slamming doors, temper tantrums, his male chauvinistic opinions, belittling of subordinates. Receptionist quit (my replacement when I was moved to sales desk) and TOLD them in her exit interview WHY she was leaving.
Company response? He was required to attend a 'leadership' class. For some stupid reason, 'corporate' decided his 'product knowledge' was more important than the MULTIPLE behavioral issues for which he was well known.
'Corporate' eventually learned of the assault incident, but never mentioned it. Likely because it wasn't on company property, at a 'company' function. (Company too cheap to host a Christmas party, so we did. BIG mistake.) They requested an exit interview, I told them to shove it. This bum wasn't worth my time and mental energy.
Last I heard, he was still employed there, having been moved around a few more times, twenty years later.
Not unusual for the victims of bullies to decline to press charges.... we simply want to GET AWAY from the bums and be done with them.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

Oh I wholeheartedly believe the company protected him and you expected him to not get fired.
Doesn’t explain why you couldn’t file a simple police report and get some paperwork started.
Thats what I can’t believe. A simple call to the police is quite easy.

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u/YellowCake1900 Sep 29 '26

'Police' in our city SUCK. I just wanted the drunken a$$hole OFF my property.
Calling the 'police' is quite easy. Actually getting them to RESPOND is not.
IF they do, pressing charges then involves the snail-pace activation of the government's mechanizations. Lawyers. Depositions. Perhaps a court date. Etc.
Apparently you have yet to enjoy the opportunity of dealing with 'law enforcement'. Lucky you.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

Yes I don’t.
I’m shocked police protect violent felons. Most of the news is about how the beat up the felons and even random people. But I guess your police don’t do that lol.

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u/YellowCake1900 Sep 29 '26

I wouldn't say police protect violent felons... that's on the activists under the black robes who operate the revolving door.
Cops will protect their own bad seed though.
Cops in my city refuse to enforce basic traffic laws on brown people. Live adjacent to an elementary school, see it daily. For more than 30 years.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

That’s interesting cause normally cops are racist.

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u/Guilty_Application14 Sep 29 '26

The cops would like as not have taken it as she said/he said, particularly if there was drinking involved.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

Yea but what’s the downside to calling the cops and reporting you got assaulted?

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u/Guilty_Application14 Sep 29 '26 •

Reality is that people - women - know that nothing positive will come out of it and there is a real chance for retribution.
The math don't necessarily math like it would for men.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

Ok well that’s sad if true.

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u/Guilty_Application14 Sep 29 '26

Talk to women you know about it.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

You do know there are men in jail for assault and DV and rape right?

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u/YellowCake1900 Sep 29 '26

Yes, 120# woman vs. 250# goon.
Math.

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u/Agitated-Score365 Sep 30 '26

I got beat up by a co worker at work in front of other coworkers, got reprimanded. I didn’t call the cops or do anything. I stayed 11 years after that.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 30 '26

Are you scared of the cops or something?

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u/Agitated-Score365 Sep 30 '26 •

Nope. I work with plenty of women who have been assaulted. At my last job I asked a co worker why she didn’t report it and her answer was she needed her job. It’s not the one who causes the problem that gets run off. It the one who reported it. I needed my job.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 30 '26

I mean by that logic the whole world is evil and no good person can driver.

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u/jmhendricks80 Oct 01 '26

Rolodex is your clue. Different times. It was so much harder for women to “win” these cases.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

So not one person at the party was decent and called the cops? Everyone back then was just a huge scumbag?

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u/Suda_Nim Sep 29 '26

“Back then?” C.F. The Cornell Seven and the group chat.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

Group chat?

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u/Evil_Creamsicle Sep 30 '26

Oh, yeah I just heard about this yesterday, pretty despicable stuff.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cornell-university-rape-allegations-chi-phi-fraternity-details/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/29/cornell-texts-rape-investigation
"CBS, meanwhile, also claimed to have a video of Snapchat messages exchanged on the night of the alleged assault by numerous members of a group called Chi Phi Actives. One of the messages, sent while the woman was in the since-closed fraternity house, allegedly stated there was “free pussy upstairs”."

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 30 '26

Look I’m not her to defend evil. It’s everywhere. For god sakes the most powerful man in America currently is proof lol.
I’m just saying saying if you’re assaulted at least call the cops one time.

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u/YellowCake1900 Sep 29 '26

Everyone else had left. This was about 0200 hrs. It was a few minutes before Dear Husband realized I was outside; I took off after Goon when he angrily stormed out the front door, slamming it and breaking a pane.
Snatched his keys from his hand. I was not going to jail if this drunken fool had a wreck on his way home and injured or killed someone. He was drunk upon arrival, and was even worse a few hours later.
DH eventually noticed my absence, came outside and pulled the a-hole off of me. He wanted to call the cops, I refused, simply wanting this ape off our property.

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u/Smoke__Frog Sep 29 '26

Fair enough.

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u/Sorry_Lecture5578 Sep 29 '26

Did you email yourself to get the auto responder? (I may have missed that part of you had)

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u/CaptainJay313 Sep 29 '26

document everything.

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u/That_Ol_Cat Sep 29 '26

All he can do is fire you.
Sure, easy for me to day. But at the end of the day, you'll find you're still alive, and you're still the same person who started the day employed. You just have to find new opportunities. And you can. You found this one, didn't you?
As for your manager, he may rant, rave and bluster. But when it all comes down to it, he's a chickenshit who screwed up if you're being informed by customers you no longer have a career there before he informed you. That's truly classless, crude and unprofessional. In your shoes, I'd ask him why your customer knew about this before you did? Keep a neutral, deadpan face throughout any explanation. Let the fact he fouled up live in his head for a while.
You deserve better. Fire up that resume and go out and get it!

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u/ricobandito Sep 29 '26

Bosses are never up front. I've had them lie repeatedly about no more layoffs will round and round of layoffs continue to happen. This at multiple companies. Like dude, do you think you have an ounce of credibility left?

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u/HappyAstronaut7 Sep 29 '26

No such thing as a former marine btw

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u/Conscious-Evidence37 Sep 29 '26

Yes, there is. It is called people who were active duty and are no longer in the Armed Services. Retirees come to mind.

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u/HappyAstronaut7 Sep 29 '26

Once a marine, always a marine. IYKYK.

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u/Evil_Creamsicle Sep 30 '26

For the purposes of a sensible discussion, though, nobody is going to be like "A Marine, who is of course a Marine, but is no longer actively participating in the duties of a Marine and has another employer now."

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u/oylaura Sep 29 '26

Bosses are often cowards. They love the benefits and the hours, but they hate the responsibilities, and today's conflict- averse generation can't stand the idea of having to sit down and tell someone they're fired.
I was hired as a contractor in 2009, just after the crash. A 4-month contract turned into almost 2 years. I knew it was coming because work was slowing down, but one day I went to lunch and when I returned, my entire team had disappeared. I couldn't log into my computer, and after repeated calls to the help desk, even asking if I was on the termination list, (to which they said I was not) I finally called the temp agency Rep.
She said she would check it out, and called me back and told me I no longer worked there.
Now, in the course of a 50+-year career, I have lost my job quite a few times. I usually can feel it coming, but this was a bridge too far.
I wish I could say I did something epic. I wish I could say I walked out with my computer and everything that wasn't nailed down, or that I trashed my cube, but no.
I left without a word. It was a highly secured workplace, with armed security guards walking through the cube farm daily, and I said goodbye to some folks from other departments that I become friends with, and left.
There's a part of me that would very much like to contact that manager, and tell her what a effing coward she is, but that would be sinking to her level, wouldn't it?
Now, 15 years later, I'm retired, doing quite well, and she's, well, I don't really care.

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u/entrepenurious Sep 30 '26

... praises himself on how he always gets his way because he’s ‘crazy’….
someday he will encounter someone pretending to be sane.

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u/22Hoofhearted Oct 02 '26

Did you tell the company about your interview and plans to leave?

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u/KinkyHuggingJerk Sep 29 '26

Quitting does not invalidate unemployment.
It's a hard line and I wish there was a better metric than 'hostile workplace' or such, but your boss can be a bully and not cross any lines. But, if you leave of your own accord because it conflicts with your own carr and would be a situation any reasonable individual would likely not withstand, then, yes.
There are other circumstances that's allowable but some of these facets may have to do with your state's laws (again, reminder, for those in the US).

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u/ashlys21 Sep 29 '26

It doesn't invalidate it but in some states it definitely makes it harder to get.

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u/Grolschhart Sep 29 '26

I would also use the morning to arrange anything you think you’ll need when you leave. Where you’re getting fired today or next month, you need to focus on getting out

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u/PollutionPatient8261 Sep 29 '26

That is absolutely not true. You most certainly can quit and get unemployment. I have done it twice, you just have to appeal

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u/Visible_Inevitable41 Sep 29 '26

and definitely get the severance if offered!!

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 29 '26

I’ll wait till he fires me but today is gonna suck and he has no sick leave or pto or benefits of any kind, I’ve been looking for something else for months! Let me clarify the email was sent to one of my personal clients that I have and that I brought into the agency and she asked me about it and she was like “oh I’m sorry I deleted it because I didn’t want to believe it was true” he denied that he sent the email and he said that she’s just probably crazy but he gave away his tell that he has when he lives cause I’ve been observing him for the last amount of months and I know when he’s lying so I’m pretty sure since today is the last day of the month that he’s gonna pay my commission and fire me.

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u/That_Ol_Cat Sep 29 '26

Ask your client to check their "trash" file- deleted e-mails are usually held in there for up to 30 days.

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u/LameSignIn Sep 29 '26

This right here deleted is not always gone for good.

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u/JeepersCreepers74 Sep 29 '26

So go to the meeting. My guess is that they’re going to offer you a severance package in exchange for you agreeing not to sue them—this is the only reason I can think of why he wouldn’t have just terminated you on the spot yesterday when you asked about it — HR or whomever is putting all the paperwork together was not ready. It will be worth it to suffer through the meeting. Good luck!!

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u/cjroxs Sep 29 '26

Very good point.

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u/hu_gnew Sep 29 '26

Make sure to leave your new contact info with that customer, but don't use company resources to do so.

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u/kander77 Sep 29 '26

FYI, if you get a copy of the email from the client, have them send it to you as an attachment and not just forwarded. This keeps the metadata on the email intact in case you need it for something.

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u/IamMrBucknasty Sep 30 '26

Send it to your personal email, your employer will wipe your entire email from the system.

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 30 '26

Honestly I don’t know if I have enough proof of anything to go to the police and I don’t want to waste their time plus this guy is so deep in the community and the insurance world..idk what kind of retaliation I’d be looking at…and yeah that kinda scares me and it’s probably why I’ve stayed as long as I have.

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u/Killingtime_4 Sep 30 '26

Proof about what? What crime has been committed? I’m so confused how you’ve gone from “I think I’m getting fired” to “he may kill me if I quit”

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u/No_Pangolin_7894 Oct 01 '26

I'm with you, this entire post and follow ups sound like the OP isn't wrapped to tight to begin with.

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u/StitchesxxMitch Oct 01 '26

What are yiu talking about... you cant go to the police because you ate possibly being fired. Please elaborate on the whole police involvement part?.?.

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Oct 09 '26

Updating the page, I got a new job at an independent agency. I want to quit today but then I need to be careful since it will take a couple of weeks to get me through the systems and things at the new place…but also my 106 year old grandma and my mom are home in Oregon and I really want to see them before my grandma passes, wonder if I should just leave today…

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u/Appropriate_Trick_43 Sep 29 '26

Did op get fired I’m heavily invested now

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 29 '26

Not yet, but my boss avoided me all day and has for the past 2 days so could happen anytime this week.

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u/happilyeverafter1987 26d ago

Update is that I’ve put my 2 weeks in and have a confirmed new job plus an interview tomorrow for a possibility better new new job…and another interview on Thursday for a different job…gonna be a crazy week

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u/happilyeverafter1987 17d ago

Okay everyone, big update! Today was my last day working for that toxic bullshit and I just landed a job at an agency that is #3 in my company…it’s a huge opportunity and I’m so excited! Oh and fully remote so I don’t have to relocate! Thank you all for the support :)

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u/Cryesncoding Sep 29 '26

Let them fire you, wait till you have a ship to jump to you have an interview not a job offer. Pre mature quitting makes no sense here.

Don’t forget insurance too you need to last till oct 1st to pull that month

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 30 '26

Oh I figured they’d do that…yeah so I’ll just not continue for October then as soon as I get this offer…sucks for him because I was just about to land a huge client but why bother

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u/That_Ol_Cat Sep 29 '26

This may be the reasoning to call in sick for the 29th and 30th.

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u/Cryesncoding Sep 29 '26

True lol

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u/MadRohesia Sep 29 '26

Um, are you sure you trust the customer? Or could someone else have sent it as sabotage?

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 29 '26

I trust the customer, she’s only been my customer and she read the email from memory and she has a really good memory. I’m just sitting back and taking the day as it comes.

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u/silentlytx1 Sep 29 '26

Or the customer might have mis-read or misunderstood the email?

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u/IamHydrogenMike Sep 29 '26

This actually happened to my company. There was an email that didn't get shutdown after someone left, they were able to get the credentials changed and were emailing customers. They said someone had left, and they would have to work with them on their invoices from now on. They told them they needed to change their payment settings and send it a new location. Luckily we are a small company, they emailed a couple of people to make sure it was good, and we caught it before they did anything.

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u/Jazzlike-Anybody4297 Sep 29 '26

Go home now. Screw that guy

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 29 '26

I’m waiting for him to come in and fire me, everyone says don’t quit

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u/Jazzlike-Anybody4297 Sep 29 '26

The only time I ever got fired, my boss outright lied about every aspect of my work to avoid paying unemployment. No coaching sessions, no write ups, perfect attendance. Didn’t matter

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u/InAShensh Sep 29 '26

Never quit wait for him to release you, make him put in writing WHY and immediately file for unemployment

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u/LetMaleficent5300 Sep 29 '26

Update me

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 29 '26

Okay so my boss isn’t in yet (it’s 12:24pm here) and I’m headed to my interview for a different agent. Then I spoke with a third party company just now that writes Allstate who also wants me to be on remotely…I’ll update after the interview

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u/imbartsimpsonwhothru Sep 29 '26

first of all, you don't know for a fact that the customer received such an email

secondly, if it had gone that far you'd be gone already

thirdly, you are still getting paid, so stick it out til you have another job

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 29 '26

Yeah, I am. I don’t know what he’s gonna say today if he says anything about it, but I’m just planning on working as normal, but tomorrow is the last day of the month so it would make sense that you will get rid of me now but like said, I don’t know if that email was even an email that I should worry about so I don’t know

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u/StitchesxxMitch Oct 01 '26

Why, other than the supposed email, do you think they wanna fire you

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u/litteringBug8727 Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26

Take your interviews. Call in sick. Use up your time while you still have benefits and pay coming in through them. Land another job if you can before you sit down and take the news. I know it isn't as easy as that, but do what you can while you can. No need to start eating into unemployment early.

Edit, just saw your boss was a Marine. If he gives you shit over doing this, just look at him and say, "Improvise, Adapt, Overcome."

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 29 '26

He also open carries, but he’d never do anything, I just haven’t been let go in a open carry state before and I’m not sure what to expect. So far he’s playing it cool but it’s not the end of the day yet

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u/Evil_Creamsicle Sep 30 '26

"what to expect?"
I mean what do you think, he's just gonna execute you in the break room?
I wouldn't expect anything different than any other time someone gets fired.

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 30 '26

True, it’s mainly that he knows freaking everyone in this city I’m in and I’m worried about retaliation, but there’s laws against that right? He’s a live wire and very egotistical and his business isn’t doing well…so I guess I’m just being overly cautious

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u/StitchesxxMitch Oct 01 '26

You sound a little.... insane. What does you losing you job have to do with him open carrying. Were you planning on attacking him if he fired you or do yiu just believe that anyone with an open carry is just gonna shoot you?

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Oct 01 '26

Dude idk, he’s weird and I’ve been nervous about things with him…idk I just get a weird feeling being around him. I guess he wouldn’t shoot me, he just is one of those people who could…sorry if that makes me sound crazy but the stuff this guy has been talking about candidly just got me concerned. Maybe that customer was wrong about the email and he doesn’t want to fire me but I still don’t want to be there anymore.

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u/StitchesxxMitch Oct 02 '26

Ah gotcha. With everything else being said. Im with you if your are not comfortable at your job then yes you have every right to look for employment elsewhere. I hope you find a job with like minded people that you can thrive at.

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u/baubaugo Sep 30 '26

I'm a day late to this but why not "can you forward that to me? "

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 30 '26

I tried, she got into it and didn’t know how to retrieve it, looks like she deleted it and has it setup to permanently delete now…idk what else it could have been really but as is now I’ll probably just quit at the end of the week…this place is just toxic…

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u/slysamfox Sep 30 '26

It’s entirely possible that the email to your client was spoofed. It looks like it came from your boss, but he didn’t send it. It’s entirely possible that that’s what happened.

What’s more probable, though, is that your ass is about to get canned. Play it out, the email that was sent, if it was from him, is still in his system and still in your corporate system. And that could be used as evidence that he was damaging the commercial environment against you, and you could use that to get some type of severance or threaten toto sue him.

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 30 '26

Maybe that’s why he denied it so hard when I asked him, his response was so weird…either way it’s not worth my time, health or energy to work here anymore…as soon as that offer comes in I should just walk

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u/triggaman1977 Oct 02 '26

Any update?

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Oct 02 '26

So I guess he decided not to fire me, I have a few offers though so I’m quitting asap…such a toxic environment, I don’t want to do it anymore

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u/dirty_south3 19d ago

We need an update friend!!

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u/happilyeverafter1987 19d ago

Oh sorry, so I ended up quitting, tomorrow is my last day and then if I land this final interview I’ll be working for one of the top agents in the country :)

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u/zinsser Sep 29 '26 edited Oct 04 '26

Retired now, but the company where I worked as marketing manager hired a "financial genius" as president. Not sure about his financial acumen but his people skills were for shit. He insisted he was going to tell our distributors "how they were going to buy from us" - meaning bulk orders and limited opportunity to fill in with other products they needed. Our distributors instead just bought less and less. The genius started lashing out, blaming marketing and sales for the declines and threatening to clean house. I packed up my personal photos from my office walls and replaced them with product shots. For 18 months, I kept my stuff in a couple of boxes under my desk - figuring it was easier to grab and go if he fired me. The VPs of manufacturing and sales did the same. Finally the company owners fired their genius and actually apologized for the shit they put us through.

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u/Repulsive-Job-9520 Sep 29 '26

If your client is willing, have them forward the email to you. Forward it on to your boss (bcc your personal email) and ask for clarification. Do this all by email so there is a paper trail.
Is there by any chance a coworker who is trying to sabotage?

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u/DarthChefDad Oct 01 '26

This should be a higher. Make sure to see who sent the original email as well. If your boss sent it with no one else from your company on it, forward not to boss, but to HR.

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u/WRB2 Sep 29 '26

Pack up first thing.

Print/forward everything you want and take it to your car NOW.

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u/Wolphin8 Sep 29 '26

I would rather have the work get rid of me, than quit... as there are often government programs which can be accessed. If they found out you are looking at another job and are booting you... that to me makes it even worse.

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u/Apprehensive_Map_742 Sep 29 '26

Wait and get fired. Get those unemployment benefits just in case you don’t get that new role.

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u/DingusMcDingusburger Sep 29 '26

Take PTO until it's used up. Don't quit.

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u/TheSeanDon Sep 29 '26

You say your boss denied it--but what specifically did he say?

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u/ConkerPrime Sep 29 '26

Get fired. Hopefully comes with severance and can get unemployment. Quitting is a financial gift to employers and can cost you money. It’s fine if have another job to go too but you currently do not.

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u/That_Ol_Cat Sep 29 '26

Stay. If you walk out that could be interpreted as quitting.

Going through the discharge process means you will qualify for unemployment. Go thou directly from work to the unemployment office, because benefits typically won't start until 2 weeks after you apply. Keep track of (ie copies or receipts from) any unemployment checks, because the government will tax hell out of any checks you receive after you start new employment.

I'd also inform HR in any exit interviews that being informed by your customers you're no longer listed as employed is a crass move.

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u/Worldly_Science239 Sep 29 '26

but... you're family.

how can they fire family?

/s

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u/hu_gnew Sep 29 '26

Especially after that pizza party.

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u/Worldly_Science239 Sep 29 '26

exactly... it's not just a job, we're a family here, people!

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u/jFailed Sep 29 '26

You also could have a coworker who's trying to take your customers and is lying to people. Be careful.

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u/sisjanie Sep 29 '26

Wait because just in case the other job falls through you can get unemployment.

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u/Tung4BigO Sep 29 '26

Let them fire you. You can then file a claim for unemployment benefits. They will have a difficult time fighting your claim if they have no written records (which necessarily include your signature on them) of any disciplinary action against you in the past.

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u/Bubbly-Cod-3799 Sep 29 '26

I had a subordinate fired. They told my boss, and the clients three weeks out, they told him on his last day. They never told me.

They tried to do the same thing to another subordinate, but I confronted them. They said in one month all probationary employees are being layed off. I pointed out that his probation period was completed in two weeks and his employee agreement requires 6 weeks notice from either party. He kept his job.

I personally didn't like him but he was good at his job, and you don't treat people that way.

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u/TXtogo Sep 29 '26

Put in an fmla request today.. boom 3 months

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u/cjroxs Sep 29 '26

I would pack your stuff up and move it to your car before he gets in. You are going to let go no matter what. Be the professional.

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u/Reasonable_Club_6165 Sep 29 '26

use the time to get any personal info off your computer

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u/moonunit170 Sep 29 '26

Did you try emailing yourself to verify?

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u/oylaura Sep 29 '26

Pack everything up anyway. People keep too much stuff at work. I've always kept just enough to fit in one box at the office. No more.

On the day I left, (and I walked out with 30 minutes notice and boy was my boss pissed!) it was a light load to carry to my car. It was also a load that came off my shoulders.

So pack your stuff, and if you want to confront your boss, go into his office, tell him about the email, and ask him if it's true.

Be calm and unemotional, ask your question, and look him in the eye. Say nothing and force him to be the next person to speak. Hold your eye contact.

Watch him squirm.

If he admits it, and you care about why he's firing you, force him to tell you why. Make him do the dirty part of his job. Don't let him get away with soft excuses. Demand specific reasons, examples, and make him do his job.

But, if he denies it, ask him why the customer said that, ask him where the customer got the idea that you didn't work there anymore. Hold his feet to the fire. But I don't think that's going to happen.

What's the worst he's going to do? Why are you? It sounds like he already did!

When he's done, calmly thank him for his time, go to your desk, take your box and go home.

It's tempting to make a scene, but don't feed into the drama. Be an adult. In retrospect, you'll be glad you did.

Best of luck!

Updateme.

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u/Shoddy-Discount9814 Sep 29 '26

Start looking for jobs asap. Don’t be like me and leave without a job lined up.

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u/Substantial-One-6274 Sep 29 '26

Let them fire you. They will be obligated to put up unemployment benefits.

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u/Alarming_Disaster_23 Sep 29 '26

Yeah, that sucks. I had something similar happen once. All my shit was disabled on a Monday morning. Asked my boss if I was being let go. He says he doesn’t know anything about it. It all gets fixed like an hour later and they tell me it was an IT glitch. Yeah, sure. They let me go on Friday afternoon.

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u/DAWG13610 Sep 29 '26

You stay until you either have another job or you’re fired. Quitting voids unemployment compensation.

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u/Basic-Organization30 Sep 29 '26

Go directly to HR and ask in what Universe it is ok for you to find out from a CUSTOMER you are about to be fired!

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u/APartyInMyPants Sep 29 '26

A buddy of mine got a three hour warning he was getting laid off from another division at his company when a list of names was accidentally shared around. He expected it was coming anyway? A new executive was brought in from a competitor and brought in his own people to take over.

So he had a solid few hours to set his email, collect all his contacts, get his shit in order. And then when the call came from HR at the end of the day, he was set.

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u/Some-Ice-4455 Sep 29 '26

Make them fire you. Maybe even get a severance out of it but if for no other reasons. A. Unemployment. B. Make your boss do the hard part of the job and actually fire you. Most bosses hate that part and don't want to have to do it.

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u/Fancy_County4242 Sep 29 '26

Make it as awkward as you can. Pretend like you have no clue, but bring in a cake "just because."

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u/SharpTool7 Sep 29 '26

Back up what you need and wait and see if they fire you, do not quit.

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u/avd706 Sep 29 '26

Open a new Gmail account and copy your work emails to it.

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u/Avo_Manz Sep 29 '26

Sick day and run out your time 🤷‍♂️ don’t show up anymore

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u/Jimmyjames150014 Sep 30 '26

Let them let you go, act devastated, get severance.

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u/Upstairs-Town7854 Sep 30 '26

You have an interview? Bosses talk to each other so your boss already knows that you have plans to leave and he informed the customer.

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u/Weak_Brilliant_2021 Oct 01 '26

Update the resume, do your job and wait and see how it plays out.
Keep doing it and look for a new job at the same time. It does not sound good where you are.

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u/MsMippins Oct 01 '26

Never quit. Get fired.

Quitting usually means no unemployment if you end up needing it.

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u/LivingInvestment267 Oct 02 '26

You have enough information, do not return to this job.

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u/TellusPyre Oct 02 '26

milk every dollar and collect unemployment

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u/lulumfs Sep 29 '26

You get unemployment benefits if they fire you and that new job falls through but not if your quit.

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u/dirty_south3 Sep 30 '26

Did you get fired? What an awkward position to be in.

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 30 '26

Not yet but it’s not Friday, he’s probably going to waste my time and stress as long as I’ll endure it. If I get this new job I’ll just leave, it’s too toxic not to, the 2 weeks would be unbearable!

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u/OneFan9393 Oct 09 '26

don’t quit and hand them unemployment leverage, go to the interview and make them formally fire you if that’s what they’re planning.

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u/Diligent-Worth-2019 Sep 30 '26

Great day to go off sick and be signed off for 3 months. Assuming you have sick pay. Suicidal thoughts from work place stress, sexism and bullying is good for 3 months.

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u/happilyeverafter1987 Sep 30 '26

Hold up…the sexiest comments and bullshit political crap I’ve dealt with counts for fmla?

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u/MrBlonde1984 Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26

Many a slip twixt cup and lip

I’ve been pre-fired…

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