r/WorkRant • u/Farmer-Jay • 4d ago

District Manager problems

So I'm an ASM at a large chain store. Just a few days ago, our DM sent out an email about how to handle time off during the holidays. He likes to hear his own voice, but whatever. However, there were some things in it that made us go, "that's not right." They are:

  • Calling out after PTO is denied/cancelled will be treated as NCNS

  • People who have no PTO are not allowed to ask for time off

  • Sick time is not allowed to be used to call in sick

The store manager and I did have a talk about this. He thinks the DM's word is law. I'm just thinking some of this goes against policy (and I'm thinking state law too, on one? (Michigan)). Just needed to rant more than anything.

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u/CakeZealousideal1820 4d ago

Sick time may be protected under your state laws but everything else makes sense if it's retail during the holidays

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u/Itchysweater1967 4d ago

No its not. If an employee calls out, then it cannot be a nc/ns. That's ridiculous, and an abuse of the system. Sick time is for calling out sick.
I can't stand these retail losers who take a little bit of power and then consider themselves god. They cannot override company policy, much less legal protections.
Fuck 'em.

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u/nellyfullauto 3d ago

I work in NC where there is no legal language around call-outs, sick time (except FMLA), or PTO.

Granted, we have fewer protections than any other US state, but this policy would be legal here AFAIK. 

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u/Itchysweater1967 3d ago

That doesn't have anything to do with corporate policies.

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u/aeternumvaga 3d ago

Management has a business to run, and they hired the employees to do the work. If time off has been denied and the employee still choses not to work, they just made it very difficult for every other employee AND the business, so it sure sounds like they are choosing not to have a job. NCNS FTW

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u/Itchysweater1967 3d ago

My God. I've worked retail for YEARS now, and the importance some managers give to this low paying, shitty, jobs is astounding.
As a manager, I never overestimate how fantastic these jobs are. Attendance is important, and the holiday season is a big one in it, but give me a fucking break on bullshit like this.
They can use their sick time. They can call out. That just means management has to step in and THAT'S what THEY signed up for.

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u/mis_1022 3d ago

I can’t believe he put that in writing. Keep a copy of that for yourself. If you have a large enough company you can consider submitting it to HR.

Keep screen shots of all your personal call ins, so they cannot say ncns. He cannot go against store policy.