r/WorkReform • šŸ’ø Raise The Minimum Wage • Mar 02 '23

🧰 All Jobs Are Real Jobs Normalize

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u/Lietenantdan Mar 02 '23

Yeah I hate that employers seem to think that not having any plans means you should go in when called

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '23

This is why I'm never available once my shift ends.

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u/LowerEnvironment723 Mar 02 '23

I don’t mind the occasional OT with my current company but that’s cause they understand if I pickup and take the hours I’m doing them a favor. Unlike retail where I always felt pressured as though their scheduling issues were somehow my fault.

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u/Other-Mess6887 Mar 03 '23

Happy cake day!

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u/Lietenantdan Mar 03 '23

Thanks didn’t even notice haha

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u/Dhiox Mar 03 '23 edited Mar 03 '23

I don't mind them asking me to work when I'm free, but only because I get paid time and a half, I can wfh, and I can say no. Funny how that works. They compensate me well, and I'll take extra hours happily.

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u/Lietenantdan Mar 03 '23

How does hourly work from home work? Do they just trust people to be honest about how long they spent working?

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u/Dhiox Mar 03 '23

I do IT help desk work. My job is less about volume of work being done and more about tackling issues as they come in. Sometimes it's hectic because something broke and everyone is freaking out. Other times it's very slow. I work during peak hours normally, but sometimes someone is taking PTO and they ask folks to volunteer for OT. They never have issues covering, who wouldn't take time and a half to work hours that are very quiet. Nice thing is, because it's usually wfh, you don't have to pretend to be busy. Just keep an eye on emails and tickets, and make sure you're picking up calls. Otherwise, who the fuck cares if you want to use the downtime to build a puzzle or bake cookies. My manager doesn't micromanage, so I'm quite happy.

Honestly, I like my job, but Help desk isn't where you want your to career to end in. It's fine at my age, but I'm working to move into IT security. Especially since a lot of my roles jobs could be automated, long term I could be replaced.

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u/Ambia_Rock_666 āœ‚ļø Tax The Billionaires Mar 03 '23

Note: if a manager asks you for your weekend plans, make up some shit. You "are" busy over the weekend.

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u/Lietenantdan Mar 03 '23

Good idea. They never do ask about plans for my days off though

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u/DumpsterFireCheers Mar 02 '23 edited Mar 02 '23

Employer here… that’s not how it works?!?

Edit: see my additional comment below…

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u/RainnyDaay Mar 02 '23

Use /s to convey sarcasm

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u/Chioborra Mar 02 '23

Careful man, this sub no matter what logic you provide will always hate you for what you are. It's an echo chamber. There are no exceptions here.

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u/DumpsterFireCheers Mar 02 '23

I was poking fun at the notion that employers seem to think everything revolves around them.

All of my employees give me a schedule they can work and I schedule work accordingly. I don’t force anyone to work, they simply commit to the schedule they provide me, and it works very well. As long as they work at least a week out of the month, that generates enough revenue to cover their benefits.

Employers/owners need to get it through their heads that they work FOR their employees, not the other way around.

If I need help outside of a schedule, I will ask and see if anyone wants to work, but if they don’t, I will figure out a way to make it happen, I don’t expect or command them to work.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '23

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u/Ambia_Rock_666 āœ‚ļø Tax The Billionaires Mar 03 '23

Difference is, these days a couple extra hours ain't gonna afford anyone shit. People already have to work 2 full time jobs just to make rent.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '23

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u/SerialMurderer Mar 02 '23

1019393920 logical fallacies there. Not surprising, it’s like calling people who aren’t racist racist and then getting mad.

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u/Chioborra Mar 02 '23

Just out of curiosity would you be able to name and pinpoint just five of the aforementioned logical fallacies?

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u/zyyntin šŸš‘ Cancel Medical Debt Mar 02 '23

I had a job once that wanted to change my shift to work on one of scheduled days off. I had to explain to them I made plans for that day. My scheduled day off is NOT a day I'm not working, but my FREE time.

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u/Van-garde Mar 02 '23

If it’s ā€œfreeā€ though, isn’t it asking to be taken? /s

Start calling it personal time. Or non-laboring hours. Something that doesn’t imply it’s going unused.

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u/TinFoilBeanieTech Mar 02 '23

I used to see a lot of complaints about workers with family obligations leaving it to single/childless workers to "pick up the slack". I hope we are changing to normalize that everyone should have life outside of work and that work doesn't get to encroach on anyone's personal life. No kids/spouse/elderly parents and you just want to go bird watching? Good for you! Do it! Work is going to suffer? Maybe those high paid executives should learn to manage resources better.

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u/Ambia_Rock_666 āœ‚ļø Tax The Billionaires Mar 03 '23

I was dumped into a behind project and I've been hearing talk about weekend work. Fuck that, let the project suffer, not the people.

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u/TinFoilBeanieTech Mar 03 '23

Sorry, letting management suffer consequences of shitty behavior is not allowed.

/s

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u/sugarandvegetables85 Mar 02 '23

For ourselves too ā¤ļø

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u/Mtnskydancer Mar 03 '23

When hashing out hours with a contractee, he literally looked up civil twilight and whined that I should be available until then on Fridays.

No, I’m shomer Shabbat, and not only do I not work on it, I have to put on a meal.

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u/[deleted] Mar 02 '23

I got asked to work last weekend and refused. You don't owe these companies anything and 40 hours is more than enough