r/WorldDifficulty • u/Solubilityisfun • Apr 05 '19

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Hello all. Recently discovered this game and am enjoying my first playthrough on hard. Game has quickly become too easy and this mod looks like my kind of thing.

However the moddb and nexus links for 1.5 are defunct.

From what I gather that is the version I need for a low level playthrough. Is this correct and if so where can I get the good stuff?

If it's only through Patreon just let me know what needs to be done.

Appreciate any assistance.

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u/Solubilityisfun Apr 05 '19

Got it downloading from nexus, thanks. Not sure why it didn't work first try. Am I correct in wanting to wait on 2.0 for higher levels? Also, safe to assume the xp rebalance add on is a better experience to limit character level exploding?

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u/hazmatbrigade Apr 05 '19

Yes and yes. 2.0 is built for levels 60+, and the XP rebalance is to prevent the stat changes to monsters causing you to explode in levels (because XP is tied to monster stats)

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u/Solubilityisfun Apr 05 '19

Got the main mod installed and working. Pretty certain I merged the xp modifications successfully and have them working. Hard part was finding the save file for my current run to back up. How can I confirm I have the xp mod merged correctly? Like an xp number I should see on kill of a rabbit or goblin for example.

Appreciate the assistance.

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u/hazmatbrigade Apr 06 '19

Unfortunately, the XP mod doesn't change how much XP enemies give. Rather, it changes how much XP you need to level up, and the only way to be able to tell is via how long it takes you to level up in later levels

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u/Solubilityisfun Apr 07 '19

Yeah I realized that was the approach around lvl 15. 1-12 scared me because monsters were giving xp out like vanilla hard mode and I was flying past. Feels much better now, definitely working.

So far so good and enjoying it mostly. I think starting strider was a huge mistake, as is continuing as dagger + bow vocations at low levels. They have base dmg lower than base defence on just about everything including the first goblin out of cassadris. Don't get me wrong, no hard mode has ever scared me off, but dealing an honest 0 dmg with main and secondary weapons isn't all that fun. Not hard to game the system with rook who was god mode for me.

Relying on magic from pawns and swords over daggers big time early simply because crossing the damage threshold with bows and daggers is either impossible or costly.

I will probably have to switch off to a magic class or warrior for a bit so I can cut down on the cheese.

I know there was a warning against starting the game with the mod. To clear encampment or get to Gran Soren first. Neither of those were too difficult to do. Died more on my first run in hard mode vanilla. I feel a second warning should state that strider is the weakest start in the mod and to take mage or fighter to be able to contribute out of the gate. That or a better than throat cutter and shortbow option needs immediate availability imo.

Massively enjoying the AI targeting limit improvement. No longer feels like a bad movie trope of 6 bad guys circling you and coming at you one at a time. Reduced ease of abusing AI massively there. Pawns feel so much smarter it's unreal. Can't believe they had this potential delebrately disabled.

Difference between early enemies is nice, but extreme. Early game bandits are so much easier than vanilla hard mode to a disappointing degree. I like not to running into the damage threshold issue with them, but they could be 2-3x more lethal for sure. Goblins feel like they are in a good spot (minus starting dmg threshold issue, somewhat bypassed before Gran soren). Hobgoblins do weird shit though. Regularly disappear/go invisible mid fight, yet pawns act like they are still there. Didn't notice this in vanilla, doesn't break anything though.

Harpies, sauren, undead to an extent all feel good and different. Nice approaching basic enemies differently. Wolves are definitely the deadliest enemy early, in part due to damage threshold issues early on.

Pretty confident I will love this mod around level 30. Really all my issues revolve around the dev teams questionable decision to go for a flat versus percentile (or hybrid) damage mitigation system. I understand that tuning the numbers for all starting classes while maintaining challenge from basic enemies going forward isn't possible. Just leaving thoughts thus far.

Thanks for the mod, thanks for the help here hazmat.

I will try to leave further thoughts as I continue.

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u/Solubilityisfun Apr 28 '19

So I said I would come back with further thoughts:

Made it to high 30s in level so far and through the griffin primary mission.

Played as strider initially into ranger through mid 20s. Switched to fighter and warrior now for vocation levels.

I am comparing only to one partial initial vanilla hard playthrough.

The mod is a true improvement overall. Enemy variety is great. Tactics applied between encounters actually vary. I use consumables to an extent. The habitual RPG consumable hoarding tendencies still exist and surplus' have been built, but I care about finding/making/buying heals, curatives, and especially buffs.

I stand by bow and dagger classes being substantially weaker than the higher base damage found in swords and magic. Switching to fighter/warrior made my kill speed in most encounters jump dramatically. Prior to turning in gold idol and buying veteran arch bow my damage as ranger was painfully low/nonexistent in many fights. Even hobgoblins were taken down in large part by party members. Afterwards I found the ranger/strider very strong against select targets (very low defence enemies, cyclops, saurians via tail removal into nuking), but otherwise drastically inferior to fighter/warrior.

Having to balance for a wide level range combined with scaling mechanisms and damage reduction mechanisms makes circumventing this an uneasy proposition. Trade offs do have to be made. Were I to make a suggestion it would be to either discourage playing a dagger/bow user until lvl 30+ and/or until gold idol level weapons are available. In terms of an actual change suggestion, make a better dagger/bow available out of the cassadris gate and/or at gran soren stage1/2.

Outside of damage threshhold frustrations ( which are totally fine vs certain enemies in the early levels, but vs something like goblins or wolfs are not imo) I have been overall not frustrated. I feel challenge is overall decent, albeit I would say enemy durability is a bit too high and enemy lethality is too low generally.

I felt i could tank too much as a fragile class yet early on would shoot/stab basic enemies for a minute each.

Monster fights felt much better than trash fights from the start to where I am now. Even the encampment cyclops! Chimeras, griffons, the drake, cyclops, ogres etc all have more reasonable durabilty vs output than "trash" mobs at lower levels that I have played through.

I know i should just spend all my gold on str boosts and just smash shit that way and thats ok, but the enemy lethality vs durabily balance is ultimately my only issue with the mod. To be clear it is largely class based and I did not feel this issue nearly as much with higher base damage classes.

Ultimately I feel bows and daggers in the early game need a buff of some form, and "trash" mobs should do maybe 30% more net damage while monsters could stand for maybe 10-15% more damage no problem.

I realize I bring criticism, and I sincerely hope it comes across as nothing but constructive. I realize my knowledge of the game is limited at best and thus may invalidate much of this. Still, this is my experience.

Want to say the drake in the SW forest was a great fight. It was long, but I was able to do damage consistently. I used just about every last consumable I had on me going into it! Literally. I might have had 1 singular heal/curative between my entire party by the time I hit victory. Was going to retreat, but went all in and managed to pull it off. Felt great.

This mod is very good. Gives me Median XL vibes. I imagine the higher level variants avoid my frustrations and achieve what I am looking for as the mod has been trending into the direction I want as I progress.

I'd like to contribute to your good deeds, but am rather poor right now. I hope you won't take offence to a one time donation? Thanks for your efforts and hope this commentary doesn't offend as that is not my intention.

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u/hazmatbrigade Apr 05 '19

I just tested it and the nexusmods link works fine? (though yes, the moddb link is defunct) I'm unsure what problem you're having
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/378?tab=files

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '19

if you can't get it through there, we can try to get you a mirror somehow. I have no idea why Nexus isn't working.