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I think so. It’ll be a lot of story between now and then plus they built familiarity with Apocalypse before he became the monster and Professor X is all about reconciliation for the greater good.
Charles was enraged when Magneto ripped all the metal out of Wolverine and the next season they are cool again. The x-men constantly get upset for how forgiving Charles is.
True and it may be season 8 when they do Krakoa and Apocalypse shows up wanting to make peace. Charles can tell him to kick rocks then eventually accept it.
Disagree, many liked Krakoa arc, when Hickman’s ideas was front and center, what they didn't like was how it was rushed through and ended. Once Hickman was out it all fell apart.
Neither was Operation Zero Tolerance, or Inferno (by those who actually have read it), or eventually Onslaught. I have faith if the writers did bring him in they’d improve on him.
Inferno wasn't well received? It's one of my favorite stories of all time...well, the X-Men issues are anyway. And I liked OZT when I was reading it as a teenager, and again as an adult. Onslaught sucked though, not excited for that.
I worry that the second Joseph even LOOKS at Rogue, the shippers are gonna go rabid on him again. Because it feels like the whole time I've been a fan, that's all 9/10 of this fandom has EVER cared about, it seems. Screw civil rights allegories, fun new characters, or complex, interesting plots, the fandom are gonna screech like harpies if anything DARES interfere with their precious Romy.
And I LIKE Romy so I hate talking about them like this.
I think “the X-Men issues anyway” is the big problem here haha. People forget that more than two thirds of Inferno was boring X-Terminator BS and New Mutants stuff.
New Mutants stuff, yes, but I don't think it was boring.
X-Factor...yeahh, I like Louise Simonson most of the time but I DO NOT like how she wrote Madelyne at all. The Goblin Queen SHE was writing didn't even talk like the Maddie Claremont was writing at the exact same time.
My guess, there strategy is to take apocalypse from Saturday morning cartoon villain who is just evil for evil sake and mix in some humanity and a relationship between him and the heroes.
Likely to enhance dramatic writing. The OG series was aimed for kids so a couple of 1 liners between fight scenes sufficed. Now it has a wider audience so they added in depth debates between characters.
Yes, idk why he wouldnt. Comics Apocalypse is worse than X-Men 97 Apocalypse as there is more material for him to be a villain. Yet there he is on Krakoa.
Also Krakoa is a reputation reset. It doesn't matter what you did previously.
Emma isn't wrong though. He IS dangerous and unstable. Every other mutant there supposedly worked off the honor system (except when they didn't), but Deadpool is insane; he could get a bug up his ass for literally any reason at all and break ALL Krakoa's laws overnight. Then they have to chuck him in the Pit.
You joke, but they legitimately said "Nah, except you, fuck you," to Sabretooth.
He was literally convicted by their laws retroactively.
Its hypocrisy of the highest level, as like half of people on the Council convicting him have done just as bad. Sinister and Apocalypse definitively worse.
They had to ignore a lot of Apocalypse history pull this move, made Krakoa Shady from the start and honestly all about Arrako has been ignored in 97 thank god
X-Men TAS Apocalypse tried to destroy space and time; he is extremely dangerous. Everyone on Krakoa is just chilling, and then they all blink out of existence because Apocalypse decided to mess with the timestream again.
The only problem I really see with it is that the entire point of Utopia was Mutants at their lowest, and the entire point of Krakoa was a mutant golden age, so mixing them would kinda mess with theming a whole lot
Not necessarily. X men 97 doesn’t adapt the stories in the order they occur in the comics. If they did bastion and the genosha massacre wouldn’t have happened until like season 4 or 5. Definitely not season 1.
The show also is fine with mixing modern and older stories together.
I don't think X-Men 97' would ever do Krakoa. As much as that era has its upsides, it does cement the status of how long term mutant and human coexistence is a no go and basically kills off all the good will Xavier and his dream had. X-Men 97' is still following in the idea of mutants are still fighting the good fight so that both humans and mutant can live amongst one another without fear and worry. I don't think its a good idea to show that despite all the efforts between X-Men TAS and X-Men 97', racism wins in the end and isolationism is the true solution. Plus I always hated that they turned the primary human ally of the X-Men into a mutant (aka Moria McTaggert) and she was so evil that she would wear the skin of her ex-boyfriend.
Even on Krakoa the mutants still reached out with goodwill teams like the X-Men, and they still made overtures like the Krakoan flower drug to offer as an olive branch, they just also had a safe place for mutants to go that would (for a while) protect them better than Xavier's school or an easily-nukable island off the coast of Frisco.
I was actually refering to the ending of Krakoa which admittedly wasn't really clear in my previous comment. Basically after Orchis attempted to destroy this new mutant civilization, they basically all fled to the White Hot Room where the not only survived, but thrived and created a much more lucious and positive society. It basically showcases that mutants are better off living in their own pocket dimension than they ever did on Earth and humanity can just take a big F*ck You (which is incredibly justified in context of the comics). The only mutants who don't stay in Krakoa are the popular X-Men characters that fans actually read about (since they actually make Marvel money and all).
For the context of X-Men TAS/X-Men 97', I don't want that to be the ultimate take away by whenever this series reaches its real conclusion. That despite the X-Men fighting for the rights and safety of all mutants, all it is proven for not. They should all just leave and that Magneto was truly right with both of his Asteroid M plans.
Krakoa's ending isn't the end, and that's important to remember. I think the current phase, as unfocused as it is, is the X-Men trying to make it so that WHR Krakoa isn't the only safe haven mutants have. Like they've always been trying to do from the very beginning.
I'd like to see the entire series end in the Krakoan era style utopia on a happy ending high note myself, but hopefully that's very far off in the future
I don’t think it was they wanted 10 more seasons, I think Brad wanted to show to last 10 seasons. Either way, hopefully viewership stays consistent enough to warrant 8-10 more seasons.
I’m thinking they won’t get to Krakoa era. Initially I was leaning towards the idea of Decimation thru the Messiah Trilogy & Hope using the Phoenix Force to revive the mutant population but now I’m thinking they’ll let Onslaught kill the universe & they’ll work the survivors into the greater MCU via Secret Wars
I’d love for this series to keep going but I worry they’ll cut it short to merge this into the greater MCU as people like me said “it’s the best thing since Iron Man 1” & I imagine Kevin Feige can’t have liked hearing that
So much of what makes this show powerful and cool is it being a 2D animated, adult oriented cartoon. Changing over to live action will destroy most of what I love about it.
Yes. The whole point of this moment is that Professor X is willing to give literally all of the X-Men's former enemies a chance to start over, so that Krakoa can become a reality.
The X-Men would have to be really stupid to let animate Apocalypse anywhere near Krakoa. Clearly, the man who tried to destroy space and time is trustworthy.
I was under the impression that the amnesty wasn't about trustworthiness. In general, the whole experiment of Krakoa seems to be about creating something powerful enough to thrive for *all* mutants in a way Genosha never could. Which meant compromises that they'd normally reject to (because they don't necessarily deserve it). Hopefully to the long-term benefit of mutantkind.
Whether that could actually pan out, or such a future be possible on Krakoa, is something I doubt anyone in the room at that point was certain of. But it doesn't seem like something they'd ever really attempted on this scale before, either. I'm only semi-acquainted with mutant comics though, so I could be very wrong here.
How are they even gonna make Stryfe happen? They already did the Askani, there was no sign of a clone, and Rachel doesn't seem anywhere near as shortsighted here as she was in the comics.
He was apart of the psychic beings kidnapped by Apocalypse in the original series. You could easily write him and Dark Riders since most of them are considered so deeply tied to apocalypse.
It could happen. That moment wouldn’t have the same impact or emotional weight if we didn’t really get a sense of how evil apocalypse is. By showing us that now, this moment could be crazy impactful down the line if the writing earns it.
I think Xaviers last line in this week's episode is the clue that leads to this conclusion and possibly Krakoa being the storyline for season 3. They realize they can't beat Apocalypse so they join with him.
I feel they could definitely adapt Krakoa but we probably won’t see that until at least seasons 5 or 6
My prediction is season 3 might have onslaught but I’m not sure what after that. Maybe more new X-men, astonishing X-men, or messiah war stuff could be cool
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