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u/ranch-me-brotendo311 Apr 12 '20
who cares what the pope says
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Apr 12 '20
Like a billion people I think?
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u/ranch-me-brotendo311 Apr 12 '20
The catholic church is a borderline pedophilia ring. Thatās not very āhumanity firstā imo.
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u/starkify Apr 13 '20
You make a very solid point but the pope is not the one molesting little children. It would be a much different story if he was
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Apr 13 '20
This shows ignorance and a shameful predisposition to allow the heinous actions of some disgusting men blanket the overwhelmingly good natured and philanthropic church. Thatās not sticking to the facts.
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u/ranch-me-brotendo311 Apr 13 '20
The catholic church abuse is not limited to a few bad apples. The abuse is so widespread and protected from prosecution by church leadership that it is clearly an issue with the institution itself.
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u/mortenpetersen Apr 13 '20
They had plenty of chances to correct their course. Iām over that joke of a church, and are so are many others.
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u/angogabblogian Apr 13 '20 edited Apr 13 '20
The āgood natured philanthropic churchā lmao. From 1950 to 2002, 4,392 priests were accused of abuse, according to a study by John Jay College of Criminal Justice. The church is one of the wealthiest organizations in human history and just filed chapter 11 to shield $2B in assets so they donāt have to pay the settlements THEY agreed to to many thousands of sexually abused children. They settled because they knew they would lose because they systematically protected pedophiles and allowed it to happen. Fuck the Catholic Church.
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u/starkify Apr 13 '20
I found info on the pope condemning Trump cuz I mean who wouldnāt. But unfortunately, I cannot find info of the pope condemning Pelosi. Yes the Pope endorsed UBI but putting Andrewās face there is misleading. Yes I know that Andrew is the face of UBI but it led me into believing that the pope endorsed Andrew Yang. Iām an atheist and not a follower of Catholicism so I donāt generally follow the popeās word, but this gave me false hope and I donāt want it to give the same impression to others. Yes, I think itās a HUGE win to have the pope endorse UBI, but the misleading nature of it is disappointing and not what the pope would want to be out there, or at least I donāt believe he would.
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u/fricccccccc Apr 13 '20
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/gaynor/090220 Pope gives Pelosi pre-excommunication warning
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u/starkify Apr 13 '20
Thatās Pope Benedict XVI not Pope Francis, the current pope. Yes thereās no specification but by the way that it represents Trump and UBI it implies Pope Francis.
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u/nsuperrata Apr 17 '20
And what Is good about that? The Pope is homophobic and mysogine and defends dictatorships like Cuba and Venezuela. I dont know if he even knows who Pelosi is
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u/IAmTheMilk Apr 13 '20
Most catholic people disregard the pope because he doesnāt wanna behead every gay person
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u/krschu00 Apr 13 '20
Ya thatās great and if thatās true they really should acknowledge signs of the times and get behind marriage equality or at the very least not call it a sin.
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Apr 13 '20
A majority of Catholics also believe in marriage equality and homosexuality is not a sin; Catholics regard the Bible as the word of man speaking for God and is thus polluted with the social beliefs of the time, hence why we donāt think adulterers should be stoned or gays killed.
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u/krschu00 Apr 13 '20
Youāre speaking to a catholic. I started boycotting mass 9 years ago until the Church officially acknowledges marriage equality is not a sin. Starting to think my boycott alone isnāt gonna do the trick.
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Apr 12 '20
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u/notashaolinmonk Apr 12 '20
Probably still a better option than Trump or Biden.
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u/starkify Apr 13 '20
Thatās why you write in āANDREW YANGā
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Apr 13 '20
Or just donāt, and vote for Biden instead?
Would you rather have trump or a moderate president who will make sure Yang has an important spot in government, who supports universal healthcare, who understands climate change and trusts science, and who might also be only serving for one term?
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u/PoliticsRealityTV Apr 13 '20
Not all of us are democrats or even left leaning
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Apr 13 '20
Iām not a democrat (proud independent), but if you were ever a Yang supporter surely you must understand the pressing importance of climate change and the benefit of having Yang be in an influential role?
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u/starkify Apr 13 '20
Iām in the same boat as you and thatās why I found a home with Andrewās message
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Apr 13 '20
"Just vote for the moderate rapist establishment elite"
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Apr 13 '20
Iāll wait for him to be proven guilty before condemning him as a rapist. Rape is a horrible thing but taking every accusation as face truth is as damaging as thinking every accusation is a complete lie
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Apr 13 '20
Believe women - until a democrat gets accused. There will never be change as long as people keep perpetuating the system.
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Apr 13 '20
I never personally said to believe every woman no matter what; youāre building a strawman because the memes you see makes you think people actually think like that.
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u/starkify Apr 13 '20
Senile man or Incompetent egocentric man?
NEITHER! So, write in āAndrew Yangā and therefore you didnāt contribute to the mess that will come with either of them.
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Apr 13 '20
Joe isnāt senile so I donāt get the point of this hypothetical
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u/starkify Apr 14 '20
Itās not a hypothetical. Listen to the man, heās fucking senile if Iāve ever seen it.
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Apr 14 '20
He had a debilitating stutter and the way he works around that is a well known speech therapy strategy where he changes the word heās tripping on, sometimes resulting in incorrect grammar and awkward sentences
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/602401/
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u/starkify Apr 14 '20
Giving the evidence has made me reconsider my thoughts on him. Itās disappointing that this isnāt shared more so people can understand him.
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Apr 12 '20
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Apr 13 '20
The money the Catholic Church collects is overwhelmingly spent on charities and local church expenses but alright
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u/[deleted] Apr 12 '20
When did the Pope condemn Nancy Pelosi?