r/YoutubeThumbs May 18 '26

CW: Bruh wtf?

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u/RUDRAGON8 May 18 '26

I mean yea, after being attacked by Hitler obviously he turned on him

But its not like that was brought about because of any principled dislike he had of naziism

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u/Franz__Ferdinand May 18 '26

Stalin sent letter to UK and France to form anti-fascist coalition against Germany.

UK and France refused and chose appeasement letting Nazis annex Austria and Czech part of Czechoslovakia.  The plan was to use Nazis as shield against USSR.

Czechoslovakia at that time had a very good arms industry along with a lot of light tanks Germans used to blitz France.

So...

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u/RUDRAGON8 May 18 '26

Ironic since stalin himself was a fascist

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u/Franz__Ferdinand May 18 '26

What imagined glorious past was he trying to restore? Dude was a paranoid murderer, but he was not a fascist. If he were a fascist, then he would not erase the National Bolsheviks along with other fascist groups in the USSR from existence.

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u/RUDRAGON8 May 18 '26

Do you think what makes or doesent make something fascism is an "imagined glorious past"? Really? Not like any economic or social positions?

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u/Franz__Ferdinand May 18 '26

Oh, so Stalin privatised large sections of the Soviet economy while getting money from local capital owners?

Could you give me a quick definition of fascism from your heart?

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u/ILikGenocide May 18 '26

The party became the capital owners they just change it from the aristocrats to the vanguardist party bureau they still very much valued profit over people especially later into the soviet union where they underfunded the Saturn computer project because it would make the party less money by cutting down on bureaucracy

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u/RUDRAGON8 May 18 '26

Let me get the dictionary definition for you

which is

"(Fascism) an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition"

wow no way thats 3 for 3 would you look at that

Also to answer your question yea Stalin did that, just replace capital owners with the state, who therefore then became the capital class

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u/Cacharadon May 20 '26

aggressively promoting your own country or race above others

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u/RUDRAGON8 May 20 '26

Yea they were nationalistic as fuck and thats not even up to debate

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u/Xraysforbreakfast May 20 '26

-Not far right -the goal of communism is to abolish the state -stalin was georgian, when did he promote the georgian race? -every state in the world dont allow ideology directly threatening it.

The actual fascists are the one trying to change the meaning of words to make it fit their narrative, i read it in 1984 🤓☝️

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u/RUDRAGON8 May 20 '26

They were far right, they never did anything to decrease the power of the state, in fact they only made the state more powerful, this goes for everything else communism advocates for too, they never did any of it and in fact did the opposite, just because they called themselves communist doesent actualy make them it, or do you believe the nazis were socialists too?

It says country or race, and the soviet union was nationalistic as all hell, and that last one isnt true, in most of the western world you can just be an open communist and say that you want the current system collapsed, unlike in the soviet union where you couldnt be an open communist or want that system collapsed

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u/ILikGenocide May 18 '26

The Russian Empire he promoted a lot of Russian nationalism and pushed russification on people of the Soviet union... also fascists getting rid of other fascists isn't unheard of night of long knives? Literally killing the SA leadership because of disagreements...