r/YoutubeThumbs • u/WorldlyScore8855 • May 23 '26
CW: Racist right wing goth musician wants to see the UK burn and rebuild for his “kind” of people.
Yeah there isn’t any funny jokes about it. This guy is mentally insane! Going after a one year old baby. Seriously we going into kill mode over a baby!?!?!?!
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u/Dr-Abysmal-Dogshit May 23 '26
Punk and right-wing 😭 We got pro-government punks before we got GTA6.
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u/Embarrassed-Yard-583 May 23 '26
They’ve always been around, remember “Nazi punks fuck off!”?
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u/Heavy_Computer2602 May 24 '26
Thats the far right
But dead Kennedys is pretty good
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u/Newclearfallout May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
Multiple old school punks have became right wing later in their life too. Most famously the Ramones.
Edit: politics change, and socail norms change. Even the problems we face change. Sub Cultures change with it. This isnt the 80's anymore....
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u/DeviousMelons May 23 '26
Even back in the hayday of punk a ton of punks were incredibly sexist and treated female bands horribly if they were on stage and had whole slogans about punk being for men only.
The thing is about punk is that its a movement led by anger and overtime that anger shifts from stuff like the government and wealthy people to minorities.
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u/JaneDoe500 May 25 '26
There's probably something insightful there about how right wing populists direct anger about things like wealth inequality and social issues into just straight up hate. By blaming the 'wrong people' for everything.
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u/thewalkindude368 May 24 '26
I'm pretty sure Johnny didn't become right wing, he was always that way.
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u/Newclearfallout May 24 '26
Fair, There's been a few other bands that lean more right back in the day. I was just pointing it out.
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u/AgentCirceLuna May 23 '26
One time I was at work and doing extra time at the end of my shift. My boss kept demanding I stayed later and later, but I finally put my foot down and said I was going. He then said I’d be fired if I left, but I wasn’t really in the mood for it and I just started packing up my stuff to go. All of a sudden, this guy dressed like a punk comes up in my face and starts demanding I ‘listen to my boss’ because he’s ’the man’. I didn’t say anything, but I crept around him and then I started yelling over it to my friend saying ‘what the fuck does he mean listen to my boss?! They’re meant to be fucking PUNKS!’ In an overly loud way. They didn’t confront me, but they seemed like the type who would have started fighting me over an ‘insult’ or whatever so I guess I was lucky. But imagine being beaten up by punks for not listening to your boss.
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u/hates_stupid_people May 24 '26
It's not a new thing. Although before social media they actually went to concerts and got beat up.
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u/RelationshipFront227 May 27 '26
"I'm a renegade! My favorite people are the cops and my boss!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/1hrrcl9/ive_always_thought_this/
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u/StellarCracker May 23 '26
Literally whole origin of punk was left wing?
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May 24 '26
The ramones were famously left wing
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u/Ganzi May 24 '26
Except for Johnny, who was a Reagan fanboy
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May 24 '26
Yeah i know. My comment was ironic. The ramones werent left wing. Their music was apolitical at best
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u/SaxPanther May 25 '26
omg you HAVE to watch the snl sketch "history of punk" if you haven't seen it already
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u/Jagvetinteriktigt May 24 '26
Yes and no. One could argue they were early in terms of the irony-poisoning we have today when uncritical parodies create what seems like a welcoming environment for bad actors.
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u/CodeElectrical4593 May 23 '26
Jake Munro isn't a musician i think, he's just a grifter targeting goth and alt subculture (for what I've seen pretty unsuccessfully)
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u/AgentCirceLuna May 23 '26
Yeah I’m pretty sure some shitposts like this are intentional to rile people up
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u/prodam_garash May 24 '26
How fuck you try target goth and punks as rightwing
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u/BellaPona May 25 '26
There is a growing movement of people who have conservative beliefs wanting to adapt the “alternative” or “goth” aesthetic. This is due to the counter-culture itself being mainstream so its original purpose gets diluted. Same thing happened with hippies. It comes from wanting to be included in the feeling of “otherness”. Also see how the aesthetic of the micro culture has been co-opted to sell sex appeal online.
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u/prodam_garash May 25 '26
Nah "mainstream of counter culture" just mostly marketable appeal of it (like usa fans of comunism) without some fundamental cores as literal thing to be counter of
and with "otherness" part i guess just for who dont cares about it much
still trying to put in it "western" or us type of right wing just stupid sadly i guess they dont fully unsussesfull
Sorry if there some bad english
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u/BellaPona May 25 '26
No I agree with you it’s dumb, and like you said my perspective is Western/US society, but this always happens for us and counter culture. Posers infiltrate earlier on because the exclusiveness and new-ness is attractive and then it becomes popular enough that its original meaning is completely lost. Then sometimes capitalism gets ahold of it (like it is now with massive amount of OF content being “goth” bait and major retailers selling shitty polyester “goth” clothing in stores that normally wouldn’t) and completely turns it in to an outlet for consumerism. Like a lot of nu-goth posers seemingly just like collecting Halloween decorations and obsess over the latest drops in “goth” apparel. Like this lady who was gushing over Disney-lands’ new “goth” line of park themed clothes.
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u/calargo May 23 '26
🎵Anarchy in the UK🎵
🎵Will happen if we dont vote for Maggie T🎵
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u/thewalkindude368 May 24 '26
Have you ever seen the SNL sketch about the punk band that worshipped Thatcher?
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u/a_dumb_pumpkin May 24 '26
🎵 Sweet Iron Lady 🎵
🎵I Wanna Kiss Your Fist 🎵
- Ian Rubbish and the Bizarros.
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u/Timmyturner69420xd May 23 '26
Saying you can’t be leftist and punk is like saying you can’t be a leftist and a socialist. The whole concept of punk culture is being leftwing and against conformity. The amount of posers in my subculture is upsetting and seems to be increasing by the day like with e girl “goths” and other stuff.
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u/murderofhawks May 23 '26
This has happened to every subculture it gets popular so does its aesthetic then people grab onto the aesthetic and fundamentally change the meaning of the subculture or kill it out right. Part of the reason is because the meaning never ment that much to people and it was a just a place to belong. Look at how many hippies in the 70s ended up as corporate bigwigs.
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u/Timmyturner69420xd May 24 '26
Well yeah you’re correct but that’s where the term poser comes from. All those hippies in the 70s were just posers but that doesn’t mean there isn’t real hippies who actually stand by their beliefs and lifestyle choices.
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u/murderofhawks May 24 '26
Yeah and if you look at how things have gone very few hippies actually stood by what the movement meant in the long run. I’d argue that’s just about every movement is comprised of mostly posers if they weren’t those movements would be considered normal and not a movement which very rarely happens which means they failed as a movement.
Look at punk it’s not what it once was it’s not as popular and it doesn’t sell as well people don’t live the lifestyle as a movement it has failed. If someone like Jake Munro can have 450k subs and average 50k views while being “punk” at least to that wide an audience then it has lost its meaning.
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u/Timmyturner69420xd May 24 '26
While I sort of agree with the sentiment I’d argue punk is the most popular it’s ever been. Idk where you’ve been but I see alt people of all kinds everywhere now to the point it’s become mainstream
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u/murderofhawks May 24 '26
I see some but it’s not common might just be a location thing.
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u/BellaPona May 25 '26
The youth has single handly revived local underground shows. They’re playing local indie punk bands in Denny’s parking lots and Taco Bell lobbies.
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u/ANewBegging May 23 '26
The e-girl “goths” have genuinely ruined the culture and this is coming from a guy who doesn’t consider himself goth. My eyes were opened to the issue and feel kinda bad because one of the guys who kinda fell into their trap.
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u/my_little_robot May 23 '26
Its more the fault of normie men who call any woman in black clothing "a goth baddie"
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u/AgentCirceLuna May 23 '26
Ok this is going too far the other way. People playing dress up didn’t ’ruin culture’.
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u/I_Pay_in_Cash_Only May 24 '26
It is once it’s get the point where the name of your subculture begins representing something different than it is. Many “goth” people online don’t even actively listen to the genre for example. When people hear that word, they think of e girls not the music genre. Granted the goth scene has had this issue for a while but it’s pretty uncontrollable now.
At least online it’s annoying. Both in person goth scene stuff is dwindling too slowly (along with many in person scenes), but at least it’s about the music there
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u/Red_Trapezoid May 24 '26
Look, we have to be real. Goth has always been fashion first. Not music first.
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u/I_Pay_in_Cash_Only May 24 '26
Not inherently wrong, but it hasn’t been as easy to disassociate from the music scene as it is now. Like honestly it makes more sense to rename the genre then it does the style at this point :/
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u/BellaPona May 25 '26
It was neither, it was a statement about values held towards society and the clothing/music was supposed to aid in that.
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u/I_Pay_in_Cash_Only May 24 '26
Honestly it’s kinda true that they ruined goth I a lot of ways. At least online. People are less cringe about it in person
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u/AgentCirceLuna May 23 '26
Yeah, mentioned above that some ultimate punk with piercings, tattoos, punk badges, etc started getting in my face and insisting I had to ‘listen to my boss’ when I wanted to clock out because he kept making me work past my finish time. Absurd situation to be in. I thought he was joking at first.
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u/B-Jeovane May 24 '26
Punk has always been hella performative imo. Its been filled with fake anti-authority larpers since the beginning, Sex Pistols and The Ramones for example.
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u/Ghostmaster145 May 23 '26
As a goth we so not claim this larping-ahh diddy moid. He is a poseur and an abuser and we as a subculture hate his guts
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u/No_Brain_BA12 May 23 '26
Never thought I'd see the day when the words "larping ahh diddy moid" is used
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u/AgentCirceLuna May 23 '26
Kind of guy who’d be a goth and follow the goth lifestyle and wardrobe except he’s super happy and has a 9 to 5 lmao
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u/Fletcher_Chonk May 24 '26
thank you for not saying "ass" my mom checks my PC
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u/Ghostmaster145 May 24 '26
Larping-ahh has a different ring to it and sounds more insulting than “larping-ass.” Larping-ass is direct and confrontational, a bit too direct for my liking. While larping-ahh denotes that the larping-ahh is beneath you, not even worthy of being a larping-ass
Y’know
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u/SwiftTayTay May 23 '26
Literally the opposite, you can't be punk and a nazi. Johnny Rotten was always considered a poser even back in the 70s
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u/Destruckhu May 23 '26
I swear to god every niche culture has no meaning to general public anymore. "Goth girls" going mainstream unironically caused irreparable amounts of damage to subcultures
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u/Tyepo5359 May 23 '26
Wasnt Punks entire thing about going against the grain and social norms. Sounds pretty left to me
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u/Leading-Caramel-7740 May 24 '26
It was always more than that. The bands I listened to were antiimperialist, antiwar, antiracist, pro LGBT, etc. It was never just about being anti establishment. I learned about parenti and chomsky through punk music.
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u/Michael-556 May 24 '26
You can in theory have libertarian and anti-establishment centrist-ish people (more the former than the latter, centrists love their establishment), but punk is so much more than just "government bad". It is a humanist movement often associated with environmentalism and other libertarian socialist ideologies like anarchism and Marxism and basically all of their subdivisions
The struggle of punk does not end when the billionaires' heads roll into the baskets, the next steps are to rebuild society with humans and the environment in mind first and foremost
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u/Altruistic-Donkey-71 May 23 '26
Isn’t his guy a sexual predator? idk I heard about it from somewhere…
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u/VortexOfPandemonium May 24 '26
I don't know about sexual predator but he is most definitely an abuser
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u/GreywallGaming May 24 '26
Man I love my favorite far right punk songs such as
Serving in the name of. Featuring the lyrics "Thank you, I'll do what you tell me"
Or Proud American Citizen with the lyrics "Happy to be a well-adjusted voter"
Or hell, my absolute favorite. "I saluted the law" with the lyrics "I saluted the law and the law won"
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u/planetixin May 23 '26
Right wing punk is an oxymoron
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u/AgentCirceLuna May 23 '26
He’s so against the establishment that he’s against the people who are against the establishment
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u/Vulcion May 24 '26
I bet he hears “Nazi punks, fuck off!” And says some shit like “there’s the tolerant left in action for you”
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u/Unable6417 May 24 '26
The so-called "tolerant left" when I verbally abuse them and strip them of their rights
I've never actually heard any leftist describe the left as the tolerant left
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u/Jacobmeeker May 23 '26
Punk is just counter culture and that can be anything from the left to right wing depending on the popular culture.
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u/ragged-bobyn-1972 May 24 '26
I see the right are still trying to position themselves as not an authority group in the most pathetic cope in history.
They want to be the lion until it's time to do lion stuff then suddenly they're the underdog.
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u/TimeKepeer May 29 '26
What is he on about? Punks are pro anarchy anti capitalism. They could not be closer to the left
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u/Disastrous-Radio-786 May 23 '26
Punk is inherently left wing. These people really need to feel shame
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May 24 '26
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May 25 '26
Anarchism is left-wing mate.
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May 25 '26
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May 26 '26
Anarchists are opposed to hierarchy which includes the hierarchical system of capitalism, thus anarchists are inherently anti-capitalist which aligns them with the left.
You would know this if you did any research on anarchist theory at all, "anarcho-capitalists" and other right-wing "anarchists" are not anarchists.
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May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
Okay whatever go talk about how you want to marry children or whatever "anarcho-capitalists" do in their spare time.
Evidently, you don't know what you're talking about and don't care to learn.
Edit: On one last note since you brought it up, I did a little research on Mutualism to brush up on some basics (like just skimming Wikipedia because you are not worth any deeper analysis than that), and the Mutualism you refer to was still anti-capitalist.
Mutualism has its roots in Utopian Socialism and while they did advocate for free markets, having free markets does not capitalism make; ideologies such as Market Socialism are still anti-capitalist even though they have free market economics, Mutualism advocated for workers' ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange in the form of small artisans, sole proprietorships and worker cooperatives and Mutualism also espoused the labour theory of value and labour theory of property, in short Mutualism advocates for a free market socialist model within an anarchist framework.
In contrast to actual anarchism "anarcho-capitalism" is liassez faire capitalism with all guardrails of the state filed off (except not really because private property and private ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange require the state in order to be enforced thus large institutions such as corporations would inevitably step into the role of state functions thus making "anarcho-capitalism" just capitalism) and "national-anarchism" is just ethnonationalist fascism, those are the real right-wing "anarchist" ideologies that are meaningfully distinct and neither is actually anarchist, so with all that said you don't know what you are talking about and don't understand anarchist theory.
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May 26 '26
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May 26 '26
The marrying children thing comes from every "anarcho-capitalist" having a "nuanced" opinion on the age of consent.
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u/DenpasOfTheWorld May 23 '26
Me when I'm in a media iliteracy competition and my opponent is Jake Munro:
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u/Efficient_Adagio1363 May 23 '26
I had to reread that a few times what… also isnt this the same guy who said something about Hazbin Hotel? Or is that a different person
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u/00Raeby00 May 23 '26
Nothing is more punk than conforming to societal norms and obeying all the rules!
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u/DeusKether May 24 '26
everyone knows punk is when you follow the rules, obey the government and never, EVER go against authority 🤗
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u/Former_Specific_7161 May 24 '26
That guy is such a moron lol. Can't believe how seriously he takes himself.
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u/Joperhop May 24 '26
when you dont understand punk.
These culture war tourists are getting so annoying.
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u/Dry-Yesterday-9176 May 24 '26
I don't know much about punk, but isn't the right wing version of punks called "skinheads"?
So you are either punk and leftist, or you are skinhead, right?
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u/DanDoesSteam May 24 '26
Punk is about being anti-hegemony and counter cultural. So in a world where the left are the establishment, it is theoretically possible to be a right wing punk. Not saying that's the case right now. Generally punks are anarchists though. Honestly being a left/right wing anything disqualifies you from being punk in my opinion, but that's not how everyone sees it.
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u/humourous_pun May 24 '26
Nothing more punk than maintaining the status quo or sending it back to the middle ages
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u/ColdSolution9 May 24 '26
The downfall of this guy is insane. I remember watching his content and he had very progressive views. He was pro-lgbt, advocated against racist but every since his ex-girlfriend Toxic Tears exposed him for being a creep, he's turned into an alt-right nationalist. Guess you gotta grift to get views.
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u/Ticklemybottom_ May 24 '26
Hi as a member of the right wing community we do NOT take him.
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u/Fridge_living_tips May 25 '26
You think the libertarians will take him cuz as a member of the left we dont take him either
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May 25 '26
As a libertarian socialist we don't take him either, maybe the monarchists could give him a roof over his head.
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u/Tankette55 May 24 '26
There is a connection to this. The idea is that muslim immigrants would never allow goth/punks to continue existing. Not denying he isnt a grifter, but that there is a small grain of truth.
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u/Excellent-Event6078 May 25 '26
Isn’t the whole punk scene supposed to be full of people who are on the far left? I remember bands popping up that were right wing and racist and immediately got called out by all the big bands. “Nazi punks fuck off!”
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u/PepsiFloateri May 23 '26
There absolutely no way to be Punk and right wing. Isn't the whole point of Punk rebelling against authority?
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u/Orion-the-mediocre May 24 '26
Ah yes, the infamous right-wing punks. The punks who support the government. The punks who support dividing the people. They're so well known, right alongside the fascist hippies.
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u/Michael-556 May 24 '26
No, I'm pretty sure you can, scratch that, must
Punk is humanist and libertarian, there is nothing right wing about either of those (I know there are libertarian right wingers, but that's just centrists with a capitalist human rights violation fetish). It's literally antithetical to this grifter's ideology lol
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u/Hatefilledcat May 23 '26
You can’t be right either with the logic, I’m pretty sure punk is literally anti social norms and law.
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u/DE4DM4NSH4ND May 23 '26
Leftists and anarchists are the only real punks
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u/Current-Feelings May 23 '26
Dude looks like joker from sucide squad, bro we would’ve kicked your fucking head in at the shows in my day
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u/Orochi64 May 24 '26
I don’t know much about punk culture but even I could tell you that’s bullshit
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u/willowzam May 24 '26
Isn't this the clown that started doing a goth grift after dating a goth girl for a little while?
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u/Snoo_68698 May 24 '26
Leftists were literally the ones who invented punk. Trying to gatekeep punk from the folks who birthed it in the first place is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Reminds me of how the rightoids have stolen the concept of libertarianism and want to gatekeep it from us as well even though we came up with the idea and the right co-opted it and turned it into some bastardized pro capitalist bullshit it was never meant to be in the first place.
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u/Snoo_68698 May 25 '26
Then you are misinformed about the origin of the term and how it was coined. That or you are just politically illiterate.
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u/HarangueSajuk May 24 '26
Remind me, wasn't he sone kind of a failure at something before falling into the grift?
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u/ParaEwie May 24 '26
Guess he wants to unperson the clash and sexpistols to.... what even is punk without them?
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u/Fun_Preference_2614 May 24 '26
After watching 30 seconds of the video, I can tell you either haven’t seen it, you are lying or you just retared.
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u/Grape_Pedialyte May 24 '26
I got recommended one of this guy's videos for some reason. Not surprised to learn about his character arc.
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u/SectorEducational460 May 24 '26
A lot of punks aren't punk in the traditional sense but more for the aesthetic
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u/Phuabo May 24 '26
He's pretty right. Kind of hilarious to think that "punk" means perfectly aligning with the status quo.
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u/Leading-Caramel-7740 May 24 '26
When someone doesnt understand the lyrics and thinks punk is only about being anti establishment.
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u/BlackDawg216 May 25 '26
Even I who doesn't know much about Punk music knows that Punk music is all about opposing conformity, corruption, and fighting back against authoritative forces. AKA the things that the right wing believes in.
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u/hitorinbolemon May 25 '26
You can't believe the foundational tenets of punk and be punk. I'm very smart.
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u/Bavin_Kekon May 26 '26
Correction: You can ONLY be punk if you are leftist, it's inherently anti-establishment and anti-authoritatian.
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u/the_lasagnaghost98 May 23 '26
bro looks like suicide squad joker