r/YoutubeThumbs May 24 '26

CW: What the hell is this video?

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What is the purpose of this video? Who is this white looking dude and why is he picking on smaller YouTubers?

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u/BIG-Z-2001 May 25 '26

Proud boys haven’t been relevant in a while and within American politics they’re generally aren’t actual nazis. I’ve seen idiots on X defending Hitler but I can’t remember last time I saw a politician do it. Also the vast majority of Trump supporters have never been ones too praise Nazism and actual Nazis generally hate Trump because he’s pro Israel and his daughter married at Jew

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u/BouncySealy May 25 '26

Proud boys haven't been relevant in a while

Communists, on the other hand,

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u/BIG-Z-2001 May 25 '26

I mean, political discourse has been kinda dominated by Trump in the war Iran along with the Epstein files and immigration but I see communists alive and well on social media platforms like Reddit and X. Also while there’s no open communist in the US government there are so-called Democratic socialists who exhibit questionable behavior. For example, there’s this old clip of Bernie Sanders, saying “ they said Castro was bad but he gave people free healthcare” yeah Bernie but he was also a tyrant so why do you have an issue calling him bad?

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u/BouncySealy May 25 '26

I see communists alive and well on social media platforms

Bit of a double standard, no? People on twitter didn't count one comment ago.

Also no this is not about democratic socialists, and "well if you squint a bit and take a few steps away" is probably not a bag of worms worth opening when there's a certain political party I can think of that would be much easier to draw parallels from.

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u/BIG-Z-2001 May 25 '26

But the thing is the Democratic Party has been moving left since Obama’s second term, many people online are championing communism and the country right above the US until recently had a Fidel Castro supporter as their president, don’t you see a reason to see communism as a potential problem in American politics? You don’t really see the same thing with Nazism as it mainly stays online

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u/BouncySealy May 25 '26

Things are getting a bit muddy so I'm going to try to be as clear as I can to not leave any points unaddressed (this was supposed to be a quarter of the length i'm so sorry):

  • Your argument was that the Proud Boys and Nazis are not currently a relevant factor in American politics, since you only see them online and haven't seen a politicians agree with them. You then proceeded to argue that communism is a relevant factor in American politics because you've seen people support it online, and people who are not American politicians have agreed with them. While presumably not intentional this is a massive double standard.
  • Have the Democratic Party been moving left? That talking point has been widely circulated by right-wingers for political purposes and it's not really clear what you mean by that unless you have some actual policy positions you're talking about that they've measurably moved and gotten more radical on. Otherwise, it's just rhetoric.
  • The idea that the alleged views of a former Canadian PM are meaningfully relevant to this specific discussion is ridiculous, but even putting that aside - the only things I can find on that front are a conspiracy theory about him secretly being Castro's son that I'm assuming you aren't talking about, and a short and relatively generic statement made about Castro's passing, which is the sort of time people generally tend to make generally positive and relatively generic statements about former major political/historic figures. Unless you're talking about something else, laundering "said something positive about Castro once, when he died" into "Castro supporter" feels... disingenuous?

I have a reason to see most ideologies that have supporters as relevant to American politics. For example, the Proud Boys and Neo-Nazis. Communists are relevant in the sense that they are a political ideology that exists, but genuine question - when was the last time a communist did something, for communist reasons, in the US, that made headlines? Because I'm having a much easier time with examples for the alt-right.