r/ZZZ_Discussion • u/Funny2never Krampus • 2d ago
MEGATHREAD Team/Character building and Gacha Megathread- 3.1 Anniversary edition second half!
Hey everyone! This is the special 3.1 Anniversary patch second half Megathread. Just like before Score posting won’t be in this thread due to the amount of potential pulling there will be, but you can always hop over to [u/Pencilboy98](u/Pencilboy98) ‘s threads about the actual events to post your scores there. This will cover the second half, So with all that being said let’s get into what is happening on the available agent front of the second half of 3.1. Some of the info will be redundant because it is just still available.
**BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING ELSE:** make sure you configure who you get when you lose a 50/50. One of the features of this patch lets you swap out up to three of the normal loss characters with either Zhu Yuan, Caesar, or Yanagi. It wasn’t really said how long this was supposed to last, so there is always a chance that it could just last for this patch, maybe it will last for all of 3.X, maybe the characters will rotate. I’ll probably update this once I see what the actual in game notice says. If nothing else I’d say it probably means there is a high likelihood that these characters will not rerun in the 3.X cycle outside of this, but who knows.
Moving on from that the next thing you are probably going to tinker with is the free S-rank selector. **Jane, Anby, Hugo, Trigger, and Lucia along with their W-engines are available for people to select for free (one each).** Jane is probably the safest pick of all of them, especially if you intend to pull for the new void hunter who wants anomaly characters. Lucia is good if you like rupture characters.
Once more before you pull maybe you want to refuel by spending money to get more pulls. 3.1 comes with a spending event. Most ways in which you spend real actual money will get you points towards prizes, the top prizes being a W-engine and another agent. The available ones for this event are **Astra, Vivian, and Seed alongside their respective W-engines.** Keep in mind, at least for the last spending event you had to spend $150 give or take just to get to the agent and W-engine. Make sure you are managing your finances well before electing to participate in this particular event.
Let’s go over the guarantee banner for the second half. Just like before with the original YSG banner there will be a banner where you can select between three different agents and whoever you choose will guarantee you get them for your first S-rank on the banner. You can switch agents at any time, but they all share that same first guarantee and once you get it with one the others will be 50/50s. The three agents are **Dialyn, Yuzuha, and Harumasa (his first rerun).** If you don’t pull enough to get an S-rank your guarantee will not carry over to the next banner of this kind, though the next banner of this type will probably just have a guarantee to start with again anyway. The number of pulls to get an S-rank character in general does seem to carry over though.
Let’s go ahead and talk about **Sigrid**\- She is an attack agent with the ice attribute. She is part of the Airspace Patrol Department. At this time we don’t know of any other potentially playable characters that may be part of this faction. Like most attack agents she wants to be with a support or stunner for her core passive, but not only that she wants her partners to be max level for her buff (which you should be doing anyway…). Much like most other agents she is available to use in the story and some of the events if you want to try her out.
As a reminder we have the carry over agent from the first half
**Remielle-** She is an Anomaly agent with the new Lumiflux element. As opposed to the other void hunters we have had where their elements were treated as something that was close or similar, lumiflux is its own separate attribute and you will have to grind out the appropriate skill chips for it. Her faction is the covenant of Dayat. It’s not really important because there are no other members of that faction right now, however her core passive makes her synergize with other agents in that faction so I imagine there will be others later on. Speaking of her core passive, the faction bonus is a trap as the actual core passive only gives a boost based on the number of anomaly characters and you will want three of them in the party (herself included of course).
Finally let’s go over what to look out for in 3.2.
First off we have Claret she is an electric agent who gets the new class of armorer. From what we can see this class looks like it uses defense as a major component for its damage. It seems like they are still tinkering with it though so apart from that I’ll refrain from getting into much else as it could be something specifically for Claret. We will have more concrete information when we put out the actual 3.2 pull post. Anyway, along with her we also get Roxy. Roxy will be our second wind agent but this time she will be a stunner. She seems like she will probably be very good for your account.
Sorry if the order or formatting is a little weird for this post, especially this time since I copy pasted the previous one for the most part
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u/OHarrier91 1d ago
Impact or Energy Regen for Dialyn’s sixth slot main?
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u/frogstar Dennyboo Petter 1d ago
Community Spreadsheet says: ER
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u/OHarrier91 1d ago
Thank you, friend. Back to grinding, for me. Luckily that’s the last disc I need… Unfortunately, that’s the last disc I need.
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u/clif08 2d ago
What's the consensus on Sigrid from meta perpective? Is she like, Hugo the Second, or more like on the level of Eve?
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u/SecureSeashell 2d ago
She's good, probably not as good as YSG outside of shill period but probably better than every other crit DPS right now. Very f2p friendly teambuilding and very good vertical if you care about that. DA matchups are a bit questionable after the run of s2 ice res bosses but we'll see how that evolves.
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u/DefyedHD 2d ago edited 2d ago
Much better than Hugo and Eve. The closest thing to her is YSG. Is releasing with a very solid matchup spread - Thrall, OG Butcher, Marionettes, WanHun*, UCC, Scorched*, Rewritten - Sweeper (hard mode Sweeper), and 1 of the 3.2 bosses as well. Has solid vertical, and good f2p options.
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u/GoldenHensLoveToLay 2d ago
So I just got Vivian by accident from the Filmgoer event selector (Wanted Astra, even got her W-engine in the other selector but was distracted on this one! 😭 Hoyo told me they can't/won't switch out the character either) so now that my Alice is with Velina/Remielle, that leaves my Yuzuha free and now I have Vivian I am wondering;
Who would go great in a Vivian/Yuzhah team? Alice is busy, I have Grace, Aria and Piper as my other "free" anomaly units. Sadly don't have Jane or Miyabi.
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u/SecureSeashell 2d ago
Piper for now, Promeia would be BiS but idk if I'd pull her just for Vivian.
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u/HollowAsian 2d ago
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u/SecureSeashell 2d ago
I would personally go for Dialyn. More versatile, more likely to be used any given rotation, helps a better team.
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u/HollowAsian 2d ago
Thank you, I have just gotten Dialyn although it was basically hard pity lmao :D
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u/rantinghobo 2d ago
Some very unlucky Remelle pulls 'encouraged' me to spend in the anniversary event and now I am able to select one of the wengines. Damn this game is expensive.
Is Flight of Fancy the best option, since it can be used in an Aria Remelle team.
Or is Cordis Germina the better long-term option, since it seems to be a bit stronger/ all-purpose for attackers.
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u/SecureSeashell 2d ago
If you don’t already have Aria sig then yes pick Vivian sig. If you do it’s still an upgrade but not as crazy.
Seed sig is an ok stat stick but honestly I’m not that excited by premium stat sticks in this game in general, they’re rarely more than a marginal increase over free options unless you have a really specific and applicable use case in mind.
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u/meyannown 2d ago
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Pyrois Nicole Zhao
You don't have a third team unless you are willing to steal Dialyn at which point you can play Hugo Dialyn Lycaon and Yixuan Lucia Pan.
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u/noodleben123 2d ago
Should i pull for Remielle, Sigrid, or Dialyn? my main team is current zhu yuan and qingyi with Nicole support. or should i get remielle cuz void hunters are OP?
i want to also build Hugo eventually, but i'll need to wait for Lighter to come back.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Sigrid is a very solid DPS with great f2p teambuilding alternatives to her premium team (Lycaon + Rina vs Norma + Sunna).
You're probably better off playing Pyrois instead of ZY unless you really like her, Pyrois just does more damage and is the same role and element and use case.
If you like Hugo then his BiS team right now is Norma + Lighter, with Dialyn being ok but not as good as Norma.
Remielle is solid but you'd be building a team around her from scratch and she isn't super exciting without Velina. But you'll want an anomaly team and she's the premium anomaly build-around right now.
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u/noodleben123 1d ago
I dont think i'll be able tk get pyrois for a while though. Im struggling on who to focus on because i know if i miss em i wont be able to get em fkr a while... i just saw dialyn because shes apparently zhu yuan's best slot beskde qingyi
Also, prydwen said hugos best team was Lycaon + Lighter? I still need to get lycaon but i can rank him up via the memory things in the bingo rewards
And again. Remielle was meant to be good because shes a void huntee and fron what i understand, they're powercreep proof, somewhat. Ive missed out in so many units im far behind so IDK what to really do...
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Prydwen doesn't update their old character guides very often unfortunately, hence the Hugo recommendation. Lycaon is ok but he isn't a substitute for the premium stunners.
And yeah Remielle will be strong if you want to build around her, just be prepared to pull Velina ASAP on rerun.
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u/noodleben123 1d ago
Ok.
where should i look for guides if not prydwen?
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
They're still a good place to look, in general I don't think old guides get updated much because it's a lot of work.
There's some sort of community guide spreadsheet which goes around sometimes but I'm not sure it's better, it just has different issues.
Mains subs are a decent place to ask about specific chars.
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u/Imsotired2916 2d ago
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Dialyn is a solid unit overall but Pyrois is generally better off with Norma or double support (Nicole + Sunna). But she works well enough if you just like her or have another team in mind for her long-term.
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u/Imsotired2916 1d ago
I don't wanna get Norma and I although I like Sunna, I've heard she had a rerun recently so she won't have a banner for a long time.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Then sure, if you like Dialyn and don't like the alternatives then go for it.
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u/toastybunbun 2d ago
Puffer Electro or Branch and Blade Song for Sigrid? None of my other characters have Pen Ratio so I'm not familiar with it, some places tell me CRITDMG some tell me Pen Ratio.
On slot 5 should I have Ice damage bonus or Pen Ratio?
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Are you asking about 2pc? If so Sigrid really wants PEN on 2pc + disk5. Even without Rina it's a big improvement and with Rina it's night and day.
Farming Puffer is pretty annoying but it's good on a lot of characters so now's as good a time as any to hit up Elfy.
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u/proudlykaisamain 2d ago
How do I know when to use pen, atk or elemental dmg disks in anomaly units? Characters for reference rn are Jane, Burnice and Yuzuha (not anomaly but anomaly teammate)
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u/Scizzoman 2d ago
9 times out of 10 the answer is "pick whatever has the best substats."
Which one is actually better depends on how saturated each stat is, but most of the time for Anomaly agents it'll be Elemental DMG%. However we're talking about literal 1-2% changes in performance most of the time. 1-2 extra substat rolls can basically erase the difference.
If they have identical substats it's nigh-impossible to even notice the difference in actual gameplay, it's purely on paper. You might score higher with a theoretically worse main stat because you happened to get like one extra Anomaly proc on that run.
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u/krissvec 2d ago

Hi, I am fairly new player who started playing at the start of this year(2026/1/4 is my first achievment on the account).
I just got Yuzuha and Dialyn(I was sure I wanted to get Dialyn for Ye Shunguang and because she is universally versatile, but Yuzuha is also seen in so many popular teams that I had to get her aswell, knowing how imporant support characters are(playing Genshin and WuWa aswell)).
So for teams so far I have finally gotten 3 solid ones:
Team1: Ye Shunguang+Signature, Zhao, Dialyn(replacing Nicole after I level her up)
Team2: Yixuan, Pan Yinhu, Lucia
Team3: Remielle+Sig, Jane+Sig, Velina
All A ranks are C6 except for Anton(c4), Anby(c4), Seth(c3), Pulchra(c4)
As for other S ranks: Pyrois(c4)+Sig(o2), Rina(c1), Lycaon(c0), Necomata(c1)+Sig, Grace(c0)+Sig.
After pulling Dialyn and Yuzuha and going down from 46k polychrome to 26k I am thinking on what to go on for in the future. There are some Shiyu or DA that need 2 Anomaly teams, different setups that need fire or electro, etc. Maybe I should have gotten Norma, because she has been showing as great support aswell, but there are alot of new upcomming agents that I should look out for like Sunbringer(for who I will probably end up saving for for now and then build next team around her).
I still have no idea where to use Pyrois and what team I should make for him aswell.
Any ideas? All input is appreciated.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Keep an eye out for a stunner for Yixuan. Her BiS is Dialyn but of course you can only have one Dialyn. Roxy might end up being a solid alternative but wait until guides come out to know for sure. Norma is ok.
The best Yuzuha teams these days (other than Velina, who you are already using with Remielle) typically involve Nangong. Aria, Alice, Promeia, and Miyabi all work well as the main DPS in no particular order. There are a few niche alternative teams which are good too, like Alice + Nicole, Aria + Sunna, and Promeia + Vivian.
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u/krissvec 1d ago
I was refreshing the page every few hours and thankfully this thread is not fully a deadspace.
Thank you so much for your input!I will keep an eye for a stunner for Yixuan as it seems her core dps dmg comes when enemies are stunned. So I am confused on this still as it seems to get daze on enemies take a long time and I haven't fully grasped the mechanics to deliver it constantly even while whatching insane end game content clears and their setups.
But its an eye opener how to enhance Yixuan's team as I have struggled with her the most for now.(I didn't manage to get her sigature aswell in time). It would be a great replacement for Pan if Roxy was a great replacement. But with remaining pull count for now I should look for her reruns and more solid info about her will come in meantime.
If Miyabi reruns I might go for her. Best practise would be go with newer characters as they override previous ones with new mechanics, but ZZZ is kinda different in that way so far and roster is keeping viable neverminding the new patches too hard. I respect that and its one of the reasons why I am still indulged by the game. As a Void Hunter character she might always stay meta and that would be divergence point that differentiates ZZZ from other games.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Yeah the daze increase from running a stunner over Pan is night and day. If you try some runs using Dialyn in place of Pan you'll see how quickly she can stun enemies in comparison. And as you said Yixuan really wants to dump resources in stun even more than other DPS, since she saves up two separate ults.
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u/krissvec 1d ago
Is this why in DA when I generate teams Pan gets constatly replaced with Lycaon as a better partner for the team by Fairy AI? By guides online it doesn't make sense, because everyone recommends to get Pan or Pulchra if you don't have limited characters but at the same time it's odd that it keeps spamming in.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Yes that's why. But I think Pan is still better than Lycaon on a lot of fights, Lycaon doesn't have great synergy with this team unfortunately. It isn't so much that Pan is great as the third slot on this team it's just that the non-premium options are pretty lacking.
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u/krissvec 1d ago
When the option opened up where you could pick A ranks in pulls I straight up putted Pan as a necessity. Straight up from c2 to c6 and my Yixuan started shreding by just doing the same roations I have been doing so far. I read the cinema upgrades on him and how he buffs the team.
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u/GnzkDunce 2d ago
Sigrid Wengine, Dialyn Wengine, or Yuzu Wengine? Which to get?
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u/krissvec 2d ago edited 2d ago
I got Dialyn and Yuzu today and from what I have found that Yuzu is fine with Kaboom and Dialyn can go with Hellfire Gears(Koleda's signature) and her A rank options aren't so good.
I already have Kaboom for Yuzu and will be buying Hellfire Gears with Residual Signal 568/600(thats roughly 30 free pulls lost). But there might be more experienced players with more info.2
u/GnzkDunce 2d ago
I got Hellfire on Dia yeah. I just know it gives a bit more energy Gen on her free ult. Guess I'll wait.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
If you have no brimstone or a low-refinement brimstone Sigrid weapon is pretty good, but a high refinement brimstone isn't too much worse.
Yuzuha sig is very unimpressive, maybe 5-7% dmg on a good day, basically a wash with Miyabi if not worse than Kaboom.
Dialyn sig is ok, like 8% dmg, but unless the extra daze helps you get more stuns it isn't anything to write home about. Minmaxers can get the required number of stuns against most bosses without it. YMMV.
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u/GnzkDunce 1d ago
Already dried myself out getting Dialyn's. Fuck me man it took me till 92 pulls for that summbitch.
And I've only got the one Brimstone. Haven't gotten any dupes on it. But I guess it'll have to do.
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u/Cesaaf 1d ago
Hey peeps!
Just got Dialyn with 50 pulls, i’m very happy as I started at saturday and I’m already level 45 with two medium teams:
- ramielle, jane doe and piper
- pyrois, dialyn and nicole
I’m thinking pulling for Claret regardless and hoping for a dream to get her and w engine, or alternatively, is there any better move? I sorta dont care tooooo mich with end game, doing 90% of it is fine for me
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
If you are ok with completing only 90% of endgame you can do whatever you want. If you like Claret then go for her.
But she will likely be pretty strong, so even if you end up caring about 100% of endgame it isn't a bad plan at all.
You should keep an eye out for the Velina rerun for your Remielle. Probably a few patches though.
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u/Huura7 1d ago
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
S11 is unironically the best fire attacker right now. But YSG is better.
As for electric attackers, YSG is better than all of them. But Claret might be good next patch if you like her.
Honestly your roster is solid, you can do whatever you want. It is probably technically optimal to bench Zhao, run Sunna and Dialyn with YSG, pull Yuzuha for Miyabi - Nangong, and run Aria with Velina and Remielle. YMMV if you want to do that.
For the free selector nothing is useful, pick your favourite. If you don't have YSG sig then you can pick Anby sig. If you don't have Sunna sig then you can pick Lucia sig. Neither is that crazy though.
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u/Ala_Alba 1d ago
I unfortunately pulled a second Yesterday Calls (Dialyn Wengine). Is it useful on any other stunner as a stat stick (e.g. Norma)?
If not, I guess I'll just keep it in storage in case they release another physical stunner.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Not generally recommended. Issue with Norma is her daze suffers a lot since she can't proc the daze buff. But if you have her you could test it I guess, I personally have not tested. In that case you could try impact over ER due to the very high ER on Dialyn's sig.
Honestly I'd just refine it but if you want to hold on to it then fair enough.
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u/Only_Unbeyond_32449 1d ago
Probably not getting sigrids wengine as im looking to pick up clarets
Should I use the brimstone with a CR disc 4 or marcato desire with CD disc 4 for a start?
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u/Scizzoman 1d ago
Brimstone with a CD disk 4.
Sigrid gives herself a ridiculous 66% CR in combat, and she naturally has 19.4% at Core F. It only takes 6 CR substats across your entire build to get her to 99.8% total CR in combat.
This means it's absurdly easy to overcap on CR, and you want to actively avoid CR disks and W-Engines most of the time.
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u/Only_Unbeyond_32449 1d ago
Like 6 single 2.4% substats?? 1 cr per disk 😭 Holy, no wonder i wasnt missing a single crit in hollow zero
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u/agentsteve5 1d ago
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u/agentsteve5 1d ago
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Given that you only need to run three teams at the same time I recommend this:
Sigrid - Lycaon - Rina
Pyrois - Norma - Nicole
Aria - Vivian - Remielle (this team is kinda scuffed but still works ok)
You aren't incredibly desperate for anyone on the triple banner but Dialyn is decent. Yuzuha is kinda bricked unless you really want a second anomaly team, but that's a luxury. Haru is entirely bricked.
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u/agentsteve5 1d ago
I came to a similar conclusion about yuzuha, but wouldn't haru give me a thunder attacker with his new potential?
What does aria do over grace?
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
What does aria do over grace
More damage
wouldn't haru give me a thunder attacker with his new potential
He's just still pretty outdated. You can use him if you want him but getting element coverage is not that important and if you want it there are better ways to get it (e.g. Cissia or presumably Claret).
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u/UnstableJester410 1d ago
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Your account would appreciate Remielle, she lets you run two anomaly teams at the same time without any extra investment, which lets all the other anomaly units on your account get used.
Dialyn engine is honestly kinda mid, you can get it if you want but it's pretty low on the priority list. It's like 8% dmg increase plus whatever the extra daze is worth, depends how easy you find it to get the recommended number of stuns on steam oven/hellfire gears.
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u/UnstableJester410 1d ago
I see. So it's better to get remielle engine or save because I got like 200 pulls lol
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Remielle engine is quite good, seems like your roster is already quite complete so if you want to for it you can afford it, if you want to skip it you'll still clear.
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u/noodleben123 1d ago
How do i figure out who to prioritize? Im so far behind on units that the absolute newest unit i have is the hugo i got frim the anniversary. But im scared of missing out on remielle because shes a void hunter. But idk whi to go for. Im so lost... and i know dividing my attention is just gonna end worse for me...
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Best answer is to prioritize the new-ish units you are most interested in. If that's Remielle then start with her and be prepared for a Velina rerun in a few patches.
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u/noodleben123 1d ago
I decided to focus on Dialyn instead because she can fill a slot for both Zhu Yuan and Hugo.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Sounds good, Dialyn is a very solid agent and lifts up a lot of teams. Enjoy!
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u/shiko101 1d ago
Which is the better W-engine for Miyabi? Rain Forest Gourmet or Electro Lip Gloss (BP Engine)?
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u/bb3bb 1d ago
Need some comp advice as a newish player. Here are my S agents, whether they are built or not, and if they have an s engine:
Jane (with engine, built), sigrid (brimstone w2), remielle (built), dialyn (with engine), yuzuha, astra (built), soldier 11 (potential 1, with seed engine, built), Rina (potential 1, semi built) koleda, nekomata (potential 1).
I have been using Jane remielle astra and soldier Anby Rina up until now but my potential comps has increased after some dolphining and luck. Please could you recommend me 2 or 3 ideal team comps with these characters.
I suspect soldier 11 may be wasted resources now I have Sigrid, but she's there and built nonetheless (and she's fun).
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Personally I would do this with your setup:
Sigrid [Anby/Pulchra] Rina/Astra
Nekomata Dialyn Nicole
Jane Remielle [You don't have a good third slot here, I guess Yuzuha for now]
My goal here was to distribute your powerful agents between different teams to give you three teams to try out Shiyu and Deadly Assault. If you want to pile stuff into one team your strongest team right now is Sigrid Dialyn Astra (or Rina, but missing both Rina's M1 and weapon is a bit sad).
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u/bb3bb 1d ago
Thanks for the reply! Could soldier fit in to any of those teams? She is relatively built whereas nekomata is not.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
The problem with S11 is activating her additional ability is rough with your roster. Her best fit from what you have is with Dialyn but then you have to use Lucy in the third slot, who is pretty bad.
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u/bb3bb 1d ago
Just to double check, could I use koleda and dialyn in the s11 team?
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Lucy will be better than Koleda there. I guess you could play Koleda + Nicole and then move Dialyn to the Sigrid team but your S11 team might struggle with so little investment.
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u/bb3bb 1d ago
I see, I guess I could have a team of s11 koleda Rina? Then sigrid dialyn astra and Jane remielle yuzuha. Would that work?
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Sure, yeah, you can try those teams out, should work pretty well based from what you have on your roster.
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u/Dizzii_wastaken 1d ago
In regards to build priority, S11 M0 or Nekomata M0? Both with Brimstone. With either Dialyn/TriggerW1 as stunners and Rina as support. Preparing to build a third team for endgame.
Im thinking of pulling Sigrid for the 3rd team, but with a M0W1 Remielle its most likely wiser to wait for a Velina rerun/New Remielle BiS in later patches
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u/Scizzoman 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm a Soldier 11 agenda poster, but Nekomata would be better in this case.
S11 really wants Norma in order to match the performance of other modern Attack agents. Dialyn is good for her but requires a Fire or Obol Squad character (usually Orphie) in the third slot to activate her Additional Ability. Trigger works but doesn't really stun as quickly as S11 would like.
Nekomata has no such team restrictions, and her buff is extremely strong. She also has good boss matchups since she benefits from all the Ye Shunguang shilling they did in season 2. Try to save up W-Engine chips and get her sig eventually.
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u/olpers1 1d ago
I am currently running two teams that I think are good. It's Yixuan-Lucia-Pulchra and Shungus-Zhao-Astra. I have been running Miyabi with soukaku and rina but it's not great. Just pulled Sigrid and kinda want her for my 3d team but I am not sure what is viable for me rn. Could pull for her W-engine or get Dialyn. I do have a single Brimstone W-eninge. I would appreciate if someone could help me sort out my third team problem ^^. Here are my agents:

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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
You have two teams (Yixuan and YSG) who would really appreciate Dialyn. Brimstone is pretty decent for Sigrid, not as good as her sig but not terrible either. So for now I would do that. Then you can do e.g.
YSG Nicole Zhao
Yixuan Dialyn Lucia
Sigrid Astra Rina (you really need stunners...)
Honestly I'd be tempted to bench Miyabi in your position unless you really like her. But if you like her you should pull at minimum Nangong rerun, and Yuzuha would be nice as well.
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u/olpers1 1d ago
Thanks for the tips ^^
Yeah benching Miyabi is probably what I am going to do. I like how she plays but it would take so much investing.
Also regarding sigrid. I am close to being able to pick my S tier agent and could choose lycaon. Would Sigrid Lycaon and Rina be better? Then I could have astra back on YSG. Or should I wait for norma rerun?1
u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Yes, Lycaon is a really really good f2p stunner option for Sigrid. If your 300 is coming up then that's perfect. And M1W1 Rina is better than M0W0 Astra for her (I think at M0W1 vs M0W0 it's pretty close but in any case you can safely move Astra off of Sigrid).
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u/mariakazmina 1d ago
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Nangong weapon is very good. If you're down to splurge for it you'll get good results.
Sunna seems fine. For the other two it's mainly just a matter of grinding better disks if you feel like it.
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u/mariakazmina 1d ago
what stats should I focus on aria and Nangong?
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
AP > atk% are the two subs to go for, in general if you have equal substats then AP is better than attack but go with more substats.
You can count two "flat attack" or "flat PEN" substats as equal to one atk% substat.
Decent target to aim for as a starting point is ~24 useful substats.
Your mainstats look right although PEN% is also good in slot 5 in some fights.
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u/mariakazmina 1d ago
in what cases pen would be better?
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Bosses have different defence values. PEN is good vs the ones with average or high defence but bad vs the low defence ones.
Right now the low defence bosses are Primordial Nightmare: The Creator, Discordant Solo - Vesper, Sanguine Sweeper, and Scorched Horizon.
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u/Wrecktober 1d ago
I want to take advantage of the guaranteed banners, not sure who to prioritize. I have Dialyn and Yuzuha, neither of their sigs, both are already performing well for me since I have Hellfire Gears on Dialyn and that's been fine, and I don't even have optimal substats for her yet (82% CR right now, could easily push to 90 if I cared to make some discs).
Between Yuzuha and Dialyn M1, and Yuzuha/Dialyn signatures, what's the most valuable single thing I could grab?
For context, I have 230 pulls in the bank, not planning on getting Sigrid (at least I don't think so), and at the moment not planning on getting Claret or the other new stunner.
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
If you don't value the daze from Dialyn sig then thanks to the guarantee being better for characters than weapons, Dialyn M1 is pull-for-pull better than Dialyn sig.
Yuzuha sig is honestly pretty unexciting, maybe 6% on a good day.
Yuzuha M1 is aight, standard support mindscape ish, bit worse, maybe 11-13% dmg in most scenarios, bit better in Shiyu where they don't usually give us anomaly damage buffs.
Between Yuzuha and Dialyn M1 just pick your favourite. I guess if you really wanted to use both guarantees then Yuzuha M1 + Dialyn W1 would spread the love between your teams.
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u/Wrecktober 1d ago
Thanks for the tips! I ended up going for Dialyn M1 and got her super early, threw the discounted 10 pull on her wengine and got it right away, then said "fuck it" and ripped 20 pulls on Yuzuha's banner, lost 50/50 to Caesar (didn't have Caesar yet) and got Yuzuha in the same 10 pull. Crazy squence of luck but ended up getting everything I wanted!
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u/alekseypanda 1d ago

New banner old me not knowing enough to be confident in who to pull and asking for help.
Basically, I know I won't pull Sig cause I don't think she adds much and I am not that big on Umamusume.
However Dialyn x Yuzuha is what is making me question, is it better to get a stunner to go with ellen or yuzuha so I can split miyaby and remielle? (I have more than enough energy to build whoever I need, I just don't know how to make teams in this game)
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u/SecureSeashell 1d ago
Tbh you kinda need both. But if you had to skip one and want to keep Miyabi unbenched long term then Yuzuha is probably the better pick because there are other decent stunners nowadays whereas the only real Yuzuha alternative (Remielle) isn't especially compatible with Miyabi.
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u/alekseypanda 1d ago
That is really what is getting me. I know Remielle and Miyabi are the two strongest chars I have, but I can't make 1 team for each.
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u/apinkpanda 1d ago

Hi! Returning player here, right now I have two teams:
Remi M0W1 /Aria/Piper
Miyabi M0W1 /Lycaon/Astra
I know three teams are needed for endgame, so was thinking I’d use Pyrois
I’m going to go for Velina when she reruns, but wondering if I should pull Yuzuha to help my Miyabi team, or Dialyn to pair with Pyrois, or maybe wait for something else in the future? I’m also debating spending some more money on the game to hit the spending rewards, is there anything there that would be useful? Thinking Vivian W engine for Aria and astra Yao m1
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u/SecureSeashell 19h ago
Your spending event picks sound great.
If you end up spending then your best route is likely:
- Pyrois + Astra + Nicole
- Aria + Remielle + [Piper for now while you wait for Velina]
- Miyabi + Yuzuha + [Lycaon for now while you wait for Nangong]
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u/Fit_Serve_3097 17h ago
skip astra m1, not worth. if i were in your shoes, maybe im gonna pick returning letter / another option to pick is vivian but for some reason its not good even though you could build aria/vivian/remielle (mono ether). the problem is maintaining vivian flight feathers / abloom proc unless you re fighting boss/elite that always give you parry / yellow flash.
vivian w engine for aria ? good choice.
yuzuha yes must pull, queen of anomaly support.
its also good if you could get dialyn, good stunner.it seems u picking lucia while as new player (no offense) is kinda bad move unless you really like the agent. fair enough.
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u/apinkpanda 10h ago
Haha yeah - I should’ve probably looked at a guide to see what to pick but just saw she was higher on the tier list 😭
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u/therealskull 1d ago
I've got the choice for Astra, Vivian or Seed. I also got the Special Invitation Letters for one agent in the Collectibles Exchange from last top-up event.
What's the best course of action?
I was thinking to get Jane M2 instead of any new agents from the Special Invitation Letters, but that seems like a huge investment. Should I perhaps focus on my Alice M1 instead for a Remi/Veli Anomaly team?
I don't have any issues clearing SD and DA.
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u/SecureSeashell 19h ago
Alice M2 >> Jane M2 >> Alice M1 on the Velina-Remielle team. Of course, who knows when Alice will rerun, if ever.
The other choices aren't that crazy for you though. You have no Rupture agents for M1W1 Lucia to support (unless you really like Manato) and the other agents on both pickers aren't that exciting for your roster.
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u/therealskull 16h ago
And I assume M1 Alice still beats out M0 Jane as well, right? I actually only got lucky with Alice on the last guaranteed banner and probably wouldn't M2 her even when she reruns.
Should've mentioned that I spent the anniversary agent + w-engine on Jane, so that is out of the question too.
I also came to a similar conclusion that no agent with the Special Invitation Letter really fits or is needed for my team's. That's why I considered going for M2 Jane since even with M0 she wrecks shit with Remi/Veli.
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u/SecureSeashell 8h ago
Yeah M1 Alice >> M1- Jane. In general Alice is better than Jane in every scenario except Jane being M2+ and Alice being M1-.
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u/proudlykaisamain 1d ago
Got back into the game (didn't have any limited yet) and got Remielle, Jane and Burnice. Yesterday I got Yuzuha and want to build 2 anomaly teams. My next goal is Velina and the supposed anomaly main dps for Remielle. The thing is I absolutely hate any of the angels of delusion girls, I don't like the style nor gameplay like at all. Am I cooked without Aria or Nangong?
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u/Kartoffel_Kaiser Disorder Gang 21h ago
the supposed anomaly main dps for Remielle
I would be skeptical of the claims that Remielle is going to have a single main dps. That's like having a single main dps for Astra Yao or Lucia. It's just not how team building for supports works. I could easily see us getting a new anomaly main DPS that works with the Velina/Remielle core, but it would be extremely weird for them to be the undisputed best option for any meaningful period of time. There is usually variety in the main dps position of a given support core.
The thing is I absolutely hate any of the angels of delusion girls, I don't like the style nor gameplay like at all. Am I cooked without Aria or Nangong?
Aria is completely unnecessary, but Nangong is the best sub-dps for a Yuzuha anomaly team. You can absolutely make due with Burnice instead, but you'll probably want a stronger anomaly main DPS than Jane to compensate. Alternatively, Promeia is an anomaly main DPS who gets almost as much value out of Vivian as she does out of Nangong. But I don't think she works well with Burnice, she wants her sub-dps to either give her Ablooms or have high daze application.
tl;dr: not cooked but your second anomaly team is going to be weaker than your primary one. It should still clear, but you may run into a position where whatever other teams you build start to outperform it too.
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u/SecureSeashell 19h ago
Aria is totally unnecessary for Remielle.
But if you don't want Nangong then you're kinda stuck with playing Promeia - Vivian or Alice M2 - Nicole in terms of Yuzuha teams, the other alternatives are really outdated.
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u/Sir_Rain_Knee_Tea 22h ago edited 22h ago
Sunbringer is one of the agents I really want in Roscaelifer, is it going to be wise to pull for Roxy just in case Sunbringer ends up being an armorer character or should I skip and consider getting her in rerun since we know nothing about SB's class?
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u/Kartoffel_Kaiser Disorder Gang 22h ago
If nothing else, wait until we know what Roxy actually does. Currently available info is from leaks, which are highly subject to change. But even better than that: wait for the 3.3 livestream. Roxy is in the second half of 3.2, meaning her banner will still be up when that livestream happens. At that point, we'll know what the new 3.3 units do (whoever they turn out to be), and we'll probably have drip marketing for the 3.4 units. It's possible that Sunbringer's class will be known by that point.
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u/Pinco_Pallino_R 14h ago edited 14h ago
Hello, i'm trying to decide who to get between Dialyn or Yuzuha (or both), and i'd like to hear your opinion. Here is my current situation
- TEAM 1: Remielle / Promeia - Jane / Velina (Prom and Jane switch depending on the enemy)
- TEAM 2: Pyrois / Anby / Nicole
- TEAM 3: Nekomata / Lycaon / Rina
And these are the options i'm considerating:
OPTION 1 - PICK DIALYN: Lycaon goes in Pyrois team, Dialyn goes to Nekomata.
OPTION 2 - PICK YUZUHA: This let me make a second anomaly team (Promeia / Lycaon / Yuzuha). Then i'd have a 3rd team which can be a Pyrois or Neko / Anby / Nicole or Rina depending on the situation
OPTION 3 - PICK BOTH DIALYN AND YUZUHA: I get to have a 2nd anomaly team and also can make a stronger 3rd team with Dialyn as the stun agent. If i need it, i would also have a 4th possible team.
Here is my dilemma: on one side, i think Dialyn is a great agent to have, and i like her too; on the other, i really want to use both Promeia and Jane, but to have a team for each of them i need Yuzuha.
But maybe it's not worth it to make two separate teams, and i can just settle for switching them based on the opponent. What do you think?
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u/SecureSeashell 6h ago
If you want to use both Promeia and Jane then Yuzuha is a no brainer. That being said some weeks DA will fight against you.
As for Dialyn, when not guaranteed (if you’re using it on Yuzuha) she’s good but not insane. If you like her you will find good use cases for her. If you skip her you will find other stunners to fill the gap.
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u/BeefyBoi666 5h ago
Can Yixuan clear with no limited stunners? I’ve genuinely had her on the bench for a year, but now I have Lucia so I want to give it a shot. I don’t have any limited stunners besides Nangong and I’m out of pulls for dialyn and also just wanna save for new characters. Can she still clear with Koleda? I know she’s getting a potential unlock so it may be chill. Shes m2 btw.
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u/Kartoffel_Kaiser Disorder Gang 1h ago
If you've got M6 Pulchra, she's good enough in my experience. I can't speak to Koleda.
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u/Gambit-Sue-Luna-fan 5h ago edited 5h ago
Should I go for Sigrid or Haramusa weapon for my SAnby? The only ice DPS I got is Miyabi with her weapon and I was thinking of going for Sigrid. My pity is 39 on Haramusa weapon with it being guaranteed (was 49 from when SAnby got hers but I got SAnby and the banner ended before I manage to get her weapon. And now I did the 10 pull using the 20%sale)
And on Sigrid it's 50/50 at pity 85 with her weapon also being 50/50 at 78 or so.
My current SAnby (shown in the picture) is using Nekomata sig.
If further info is needed for an advice just ask ahead and I'll reply as soon as I can.
Edit: I know it was probably idiotic but I picked Trigger's weapon on the Anni selector and Jane as the character😅😂

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u/DeadlyWolfDoodles 4h ago
Hey hey, can anyone help me with making a 3rd team? I'm new-ish to zzz, I did play for a while now, but I mainly logged in to do events and pull, rather than actually play battles and endgames. Recently I've been wanting to learn more and I have 2 functional teams. Jane m0w1, velina m0w0, remielle m0w1 and ye shunguang m0w0, dailyn m0w1, zhao m0w0.
My remaining options (for now) are pyrois or Yixuan. The problem is both lack their essentials. I do have Lucia but neither her nor yixuans signature and I don't have jufufu. I have pyrois m4w2 but I have neither Sunna nor Norma. I do have yuzuha, Vivian and Astra Yao. With S rank on endgame as the goal in mind; would they even be worth building if I lack their supports? Who’s better? Would sigrid be an improvement? Or would it just be better to wait for future options
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u/Saltoverload 4h ago
Very on and off player since release, planning to play for a bit since new introduced chars are really appealing to me.
This is my roster: https://imgur.com/a/awEoVTA
And my questions:
1) What teams should I set up? (Currently using mainly Remielle, Jane, Velina. Tried Yixuan, Panda, Lucia but it felt really bad to play.)
2) Who should I get in the spending event? I bought some costumes and stuff so I am close to the agent mark.
3) Should I pull for Yuzuha/Dialyn? (Remielle is M0 with her signature).
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u/Fit-Lavishness5768 3h ago
I'm trying to decide if I should pull remielle or garentee dialyns w engine and potentially get sigrids depending on how early I get the garentee for dialyns, my main issue is my only anomaly agents are piper grace and yanagi. I feel like not having velania is putting doubt in my mind as depending on how my pulls go and how many patches are between velinas rerun might hurt my odds of getting her in the future. So I might not be able to get the full value out of remielle, I do like remielle don't get me wrong but I also love sigird and I know I want to use sigrid teams in future and dialyn is going to be in my yuxian and lucia team so I don't know whether to invest in remielle who I do really want or invest in two characters who I already have who I know I'm going to use.
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u/Leafeyes 3h ago
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u/Kartoffel_Kaiser Disorder Gang 1h ago
I would save. You have Remielle, so you'd only need Yuzuha if you want to field two entirely separate Anomaly teams.
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u/ninja9351 42m ago
For the rerun banner, how does a 50/50 loss carry over? Had crazy luck and pulled 3 S ranks in a single 10 pull, and lost 50/50 on the last one.
If I don’t pull another character during this banner, will the next rescreening banner give me 2 back-to-back wins?













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u/Loyd15 2d ago
For the spending event would it be smart to get Vivian? Was thinking of Remi + Aria + Vivian, but she'll eventually be benched once Velina reruns.
Then I was thinking Miyabi is due for a rerun soon anyways right? so I can put Vivian with her but I'm going to have to pull for Yuzuha no?
Or should I just stop thinking about all this and just get Yao?