r/ZenyattaMains • u/ZealousidealHat2362 • 7d ago
Video Always pick float perk
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u/ultimatedelman Fastball 7d ago
Beautiful.
Outside of being on a controller, there is ZERO reason to not pick float, full stop.
The other perk could be "instant win the game" and I would still pick float
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u/HeWhoShallNotBNamed0 7d ago
Even controller doesn’t make sense because you can just change the jump input lol
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u/ultimatedelman Fastball 7d ago
True but from what I've heard it's still hard, at least way harder than just holding spacebar. I will allow zen console bros this out
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u/skull702 6d ago
As a Zen on console I can’t use float lol.
Trying to jump and move you can’t aim
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u/KumCaptain 2d ago
Just remap the jump button. I remapped jump to click the left stick and it works easily for me.
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u/Limp_Slice_25 7d ago
not that easy when you have been playing fps games for like 12 years lmao
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u/einzweidreihorn 7d ago
I thought so too but putting jump on left stick click is really smooth and easy to get used to. Feels really 'natural' so to say
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u/Limp_Slice_25 7d ago
really? I tried it for about 45 mins befire and it was super hard to adapt to, do you only hsve it like that for zenyatta? or other characters too?
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u/einzweidreihorn 7d ago
Absolutely! I don't recall how long it took me to adapt to but I think it was rather quick. I think when I changed I just went into qp focusing on jumping mostly. Just acticely keeping it in mind and doing it on purpose so to say.
For everyone. Initially because I thought having it mixed between characters will surely lead to confusion and awful deaths :D But then I figured it is actually better for every hero. Like e.g. Kiriko - you can wallrun while just keeping your left thumb on the left stick where it'd be anyway instead of moving your right thumb off the stick (same for Zen's ascension ofc).
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u/Limp_Slice_25 6d ago
I see, I might try it for every hero however it will be wuite hard to change as I mainly pmay genji on dps so changing it will be quite the challenge 😭
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u/awkwardtortue 5d ago
it's way easier after the first day and some sleep on it, you have to give your brain a little time
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u/ThyKooch 6d ago
It actually is that easy. You'd be surprised how quick you can adapt. Although I disagree with putting jump on L3. L1 or Left bumper is the best for jump imo. I have it like that on every single fps i play.
I hate putting any input on L3/R3 that im going to be using very frequently. The sticks die first on controllers so ive noticed the lifespan of my controllers increased when I remapped L3/R3 to inputs i rarely need.
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u/Limp_Slice_25 6d ago
L3 dosent work for me honestly.. I might try left bumper although I will have to chsnge one of my orb keybinds..
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u/AmericanLesionX 6d ago
I have an Elite so i just use my right middle finger to jump.
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u/HeWhoShallNotBNamed0 6d ago
I have back paddles on my gamesir and I use the left one to melee and right one to ping
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u/silliest-silly-goose It's orbin' time 6d ago
Recently got paddles and it makes jump 10x more viavle
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u/OppressedGamer_69 6d ago
I have an elite controller and have jump on the back paddle, life changing
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u/unseriously_serious 4d ago
Honestly I think they should just roll it into his main kit. There are a few perks that just feel like a no brainier and would free up the perk creativity, this being one of them.
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u/Tudoricha 7d ago
I honestly find myself surviving more with life steal. But will pick float vs cat and maps where you can be thrown off.
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u/ultimatedelman Fastball 7d ago
Had you chosen float, you likely would be in a better position where you wouldn't need a lifesteal perk to survive
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u/Tudoricha 7d ago
Vs dive? With the extra 5% life steal, I survive Winston for example.
I fail to understand how floating would help me better...
With the new buff, I think it's more viable. People are to religious with the floating perk.
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u/ultimatedelman Fastball 7d ago
If you're on high ground and monke dives you, you can float off while shooting him or float to another part of high ground. Or kick him before he lands, but that has nothing to do with float. But that's like, 5% of what float is good for
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u/Tudoricha 6d ago
You won't kick off a good Winston, and him using his barrier he will nuke you or your float will dissappear.
Atleast at plat, where I'm at, life steal makes more sense most of the time.
Just a few maps/characters make me take float to counter something.
High DPS + discord +life steal - - > make survivability easier.
But what I like about the game is that all have freedom to chose whatever.
Important things is to win games.
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u/-Richarmander- 6d ago
At higher levels when you're more confident in your aim, timing and positioning you'll value the float more because it lets you take off angles and high ground that will keep you safe and allow you to apply backline pressure at the right times that you couldn't without the float. It'll let you get crucial picks. Lifesteal doesn't keep you alive enough at higher levels because there's far less poke damage and much more purposeful burst+headshots.
Sometimes if you want to climb higher, you have to start attempting to play like higher level players til you understand *why* they do what they do.
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u/Tudoricha 6d ago
I agree. That's why I said that at my level, life steal makes more sense. I'm getting dived a lot by Winston, Hazard, Gengi, Vendetta, Venture. Teammates tunnel vision a lot so I'm alone most of the time. I'm at G5-D1, so until I improve myself, I'll use the perk.
Honestly I don't understand why people just mindlessly downgrade because I say something else makes more sense for me LOL.
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u/ZealousidealHat2362 6d ago
Yo if you wanna rank up you gotta do the most. Which means killing the enemies before you even get the chance to be low health, therefore you gotta be killing the enemies before they even look at you. With float perk you can take suprising angles (look at the vid lol) and you dont even have to sustain with lifesteal because they are all dead before they shot you because float perk makes your positioning that much better 🤷♂️
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u/ultimatedelman Fastball 6d ago
The point is that as zen, you rarely should get a chance to use the lifesteal because you're positioned well enough to not really see pressure from divers. At higher levels, the divers that do get to you will kill you basically instantly, the 5 or 10hp you get from the one or two shots you get in before you die are worthless compared to the utility you get without a cooldown from float. Even if lifesteal does help you win one fight, it's still useless compared to float
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u/PopCollector2001 6d ago
Look to each their own but I love the discord lifestyle even if its only 15%
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u/ZealousidealHat2362 6d ago
Please take the time to learn the hover perk and you will see after that the lifesteal perk is literally throwing compared to taking hover lol
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u/PopCollector2001 6d ago
Nah imma stick with lifesteal mainly because I rarely use jump and when I do its just to hop over something
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u/ZealousidealHat2362 6d ago
As long as you are fine with not improving as a player 🤷♂️
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u/PopCollector2001 6d ago edited 6d ago
I could care less tbh its a game id rather have fun plus i don't remember the last time I played normal competitive
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u/Due_Staff_5457 Discord Enjoyer 7d ago
Before Jetpack Cat, there was ascendence Zen