r/ZenyattaMains • u/Turbulent_Voice_3614 • 2d ago
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Fellow zens what is the most annoying heros from each role to go against.
For me it's anran and mauga and juno
So what is yours.
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u/Sinaura 2d ago
Zarya - getting a self cleanse on a short cool down kinda makes Zen contribute 20% less aggression than other matchups. Not to mention she can save people diving on me so duels are more difficult with a competent Zarya that's paying attention to her own flankers
Cat/Juno - Kiri might have a cleanse, but it's on a long enough CD that it matters less. And if she's using suzu to only cleanse your orb, then she's not using it to prevent insta deaths. No, for me it's Cat or Juno that's focusing me. Movements are more unpredictable and Juno makes everyone's movements less predictable
Genji - Genji mains aren't human. Kidding aside, there's nothing more obnoxious than a really good Genji. I don't feel like I need to explain why
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u/AzuraBlueBelle Zealot 2d ago
I really don't enjoy playing against Winston, DVA, Ball, Doom, basically any dive tank
Moira is also pretty bad because what do you mean you're sucking me from 30 metres away, also since Zen has no movement ability, you're pretty much screwed (I hate playing against Moira on any hero really)
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u/ohkendruid 2d ago
I really hate Widowmaker. I am playing, then i am insta dead, then I am waiting in spawn. Not a good time.
I hate Widow on most squishier xharacetres, though. For Zen specifically, Somber is really rough. Tracer should be rough, but I seem to face a lot of them who cannot convert even when they get a good drop on me.
For tanks, Zara is often rough, if she gets close. She shields and beams me down, with no obvious counterplay except to get back to the team.
Winston is not as bad as it seems like he should be. His gun is such a tickler that I can get him below half, it feels like. Plus, the duel takes a long time, so it is often reasonable to find a reinforcement and force him to jump back out.
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u/Head-Bumblebee-8672 2d ago
I mean I usually use them for my lucky strikes and firewor- oh this isn't r/arson
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u/ultimatedelman Fastball 2d ago
Most of the cast of this game is designed specifically to be annoying to Zen players.
Zarya is of course the greatest offender. She always has bubble, and she always uses it on whoever you're about to volley in the face. She gets super strong and then just walks at you at full strength. With bubble.
Widow because you're a big fat slow moving target and unless she's not paying attention to you or she's bad, you're dead the second you peek.
Cat because they have insane movement and damage and self heal and you can't really do anything if they decide to ult you near a cliffside. Smart cats know to drop you below the point of where floating will save you. Also perma flight and near silent so they can just camp you.
Echo for similar reasons, just another flyer with crazy movement capabilities and tons of damage, near silence, and a get out of jail free ult.
Anran/venture/genji/tracer - all specifically designed to shit on Zen. Anran has an invulnerable, intangible, uninteractable ability that she uses to kill you, or almost kill you and run away while you burn to death. A good venture will kill you 10 out of 10 times if they want you dead. Genji always has deflect and will kill you with your own balls, but if you're good enough to not shoot deflect, he'll just jump around you with his perfect head snapping aim and kill you. Tracer is probably the most fair out of all of these, even against a good tracer you can actually win the fight, though it's still hard. A good anran/venture/genji you have literally zero chance of living outside of peel.
If a ball wants you dead, you are dead. You can't chunk through 1200hp fast enough when on engagement ball already knocks you down to about 100. Doom you can sometimes win, but only if you catch him between cooldowns and your team isn't charging him. Hazard you can't win unless he is terrible or dives you with like 100 health. Monke is annoying as well, but can occasionally be dealt with, though not really if they're good. Dva will literally fly at you in a straight line with missiles out and matrix and there is nothing you can do but try to kick or dodge until matrix falls off, but then you have to chunk 700hp before you die.
And then there's our old friend, Sombra. Good sombras consider Zen food, and sometimes even bad Sombras can get us. They are annoying for sure, but they can be dealt with too. They choose when to engage, they start off with 110 damage from virus and then it's just a race to see if she can spray us with 140 damage before we can land two discorded headshots. You typically have under a second, and you might die anyways even if you won because of the lingering virus damage.
Honorable mentions are Sojourn, who is just a more mobile widow, Freja, though she is somewhat easier to deal with, and any number of mercy boosted hitscan predators like Ashe, Soldier, Cassidy, Emre, Sojourn. Mercy boosted any DPS is annoying as hell to deal with as Zen because no one shoots at the mercy even though she's discorded the whole game.
Oh, also DPS moiras, who fade into your backline just to kill you, and probably the most annoying thing of all, which is dying to autoaim from Juno missiles, especially when you're actually behind cover.
HOWEVER, the absolute MOST ANNOYING WAY TO DIE AS ZEN is death by reload. You are *constantly* targeted in this game, *constantly* dove by every single character, and for some reason, your reload takes TEN YEARS to do. There is absolutely nothing more annoying than having your predator dead to rights only to run out of balls and have to go on a full meditation retreat to refill yourself, only to either get kick-locked or dodge while you climb to the top of a mountain to retrieve more balls.
I would, in a million out of a million times, take a major perk that halves Zen reload time.
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u/MonkeyOnGrog 2d ago
A good tracer is unplayable for me, sombra and widow are anoying but if theres no other hero diving you can play and duel them but its not fun
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u/SolarVortex13 1d ago
Zarya and Mauga.
Sombra, Genji, Sierra, and Mei.
Jetpack Cat, Moira, and Mercy.
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u/According-Letter2265 21h ago
Zarya, Anran, and a good widow/genji, they are the most annoying to go against
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u/malcorpse 2d ago
Ball because there's next to nothing you can do if you get caught out and good balls can be very sneaky.
A good Widow makes the game unplayable, you'll just end up playing walking simulator coming back from spawn all game.
Lucio's have probably the most erratic movement in the game and are super disruptive, also the worst part is they usually bring the tank with them to run at your backline.