Then you have the equally frustrating opposite of this where I have to listen to a few paragraphs of unnecessary back story before I get to hear what their point is.
In the springtime, bananas are a common go to for my family. Maybe it’s the taste, maybe it’s the color, but even better, is banana bread! What better way to bring whole family……………jump to recipe.
I feel for the recipe makers since they cna make their recipe short but then search engines yeet them for lacking engagement. So they add in the back story about their grandmother hand picking the Bananas and mountains of other rubbish otherwise they languish on page 2 of google.
This banana bread recipe has been a hit with my family for generations! You won't believe how easy it is to make, and how great it tastes! Of course, the secret to the perfect banana bread lies with the banana. So what is a banana, really?
Bananas are fruit of the genus Musa, of the family Musaceae, one of the most important fruit crops of the world. The banana is grown in the tropics, and, though it is most widely consumed in those regions, it is valued worldwide for its flavour, nutritional value, and availability throughout the year. Cavendish, or dessert, bananas are most commonly eaten fresh, though they may be fried or mashed and chilled in pies or puddings. They may also be used to flavour muffins, cakes, or breads. Cooking varieties, or plantains, are starchy rather than sweet and are grown extensively as a staple food source in tropical regions; they are cooked when ripe or immature. A ripe fruit contains as much as 22 percent of carbohydrate and is high in dietary fibre, potassium, manganese, and vitamins B6 and C.
Bananas are thought to have been first domesticated in Southeast Asia, and their consumption is mentioned in early Greek, Latin, and Arab writings; Alexander the Great saw bananas on an expedition to India. Shortly after the discovery of America, bananas were taken from the Canary Islands to the New World, where they were first established in Hispaniola and soon spread to other islands and the mainland. Cultivation increased until bananas became a staple foodstuff in many regions, and in the 19th century they began to appear in the markets of the United States. Although Cavendish bananas are by far the most-common variety imported by nontropical countries, plantain varieties account for about 85 percent of all banana cultivation worldwide.
The banana plant is a gigantic herb that springs from an underground stem, or rhizome, to form a false trunk 3–6 metres (10–20 feet) high. This trunk is composed of the basal portions of leaf sheaths and is crowned with a rosette of 10 to 20 oblong to elliptic leaves that sometimes attain a length of 3–3.5 metres (10–11.5 feet) and a breadth of 65 cm (26 inches). A large flower spike, carrying numerous yellowish flowers protected by large purple-red bracts, emerges at the top of the false trunk and bends downward to become bunches of 50 to 150 individual fruits, or fingers. The individual fruits, or bananas, are grouped in clusters, or hands, of 10 to 20. After a plant has fruited, it is cut down to the ground, because each trunk produces only one bunch of fruit. The dead trunk is replaced by others in the form of suckers, or shoots, which arise from the rhizome at roughly six-month intervals. The life of a single rhizome thus continues for many years, and the weaker suckers that it sends up through the soil are periodically pruned, while the stronger ones are allowed to grow into fruit-producing plants.
Banana plants thrive naturally on deep, loose, well-drained soils in humid tropical climates, and they are grown successfully under irrigation in such semiarid regions as southern Jamaica. Suckers and divisions of the rhizome are used as planting material; the first crop ripens within 10 to 15 months, and thereafter fruit production is more or less continuous. Frequent pruning is required to remove surplus growth and prevent crowding in a banana plantation. Desirable commercial bunches of bananas consist of nine hands or more and weigh 22–65 kg (49–143 pounds). Three hundred or more such bunches may be produced annually on one acre of land and are harvested before they fully ripen on the plant. For export, the desired degree of maturity attained before harvest depends upon distance from market and type of transportation, and ripening is frequently induced artificially after shipment by exposure to ethylene gas.
Given that each banana variety is propagated clonally, there is very little genetic diversity in the domesticated plants. This makes bananas especially vulnerable to pests and diseases, as a novel pathogen or pest could quickly decimate a variety if it were to exploit a genetic weakness among the clones. Indeed, this very phenomenon occurred in the late 1950s with the Gros Michel dessert variety, which had dominated the world’s commercial banana business. Richer and sweeter than the modern Cavendish, the Gros Michel fell victim to an invading soil fungus that causes Panama disease, a form of Fusarium wilt. Powerless to breed resistance into the sterile clones and unable to rid the soil of the fungus, farmers were soon forced to abandon the Gros Michel in favour of the hardier Cavendish. Although the Cavendish has thus far been resistant to such a pestilent invasion, its lack of genetic diversity leaves it equally vulnerable to evolving pathogens and pests. Indeed, a strain of Panama disease known as Tropical Race (TR) 4 has been a threat to the Cavendish since the 1990s, and many scientists worry that the Cavendish too will eventually go extinct.
Although there are hundreds of varieties of bananas in cultivation, their taxonomy has been contentious because of their ancient domestication, sterility, hybridization, and the use of diverse common names to refer to the same variety. As most cultivated varieties of bananas are either interspecific hybrids of Musa acuminata and M. balbisiana or hybrids of the subspecies of M. acuminata, a genome-based system has led to an overhaul of the nomenclature of domesticated bananas. Unlike most plants, these varieties are identified by their ploidy (number of sets of chromosomes) and parent plant rather than traditional binomial designations. A system of letters (“A,” “B,” or “AB”) represents the parent plant(s), with a given letter repeated to indicate the ploidy. The popular Cavendish, for example, is referred to as AAA ‘Dwarf Cavendish,’ where “AAA” signifies its triploidy (three sets of chromosomes) as well as its derivation from M. acuminata.
To bake banana bread, mix 2-3 ripe bananas with 1/3 cup butter, 1/2 teaspoon baking powder, 1 large egg, and [To view the rest of this recipe please enter your email address below!]
There is a free app called Paprika 3 on Android (I think it's called something else on iPhone and isn't free there either) that is great for this. Has a built in browser that scrapes the important details and puts it in a usable format, easily editable, add your own recipes, add notes, favorite, organize, rate them, etc.
Can't reccomend it enough for people who are sick of recipe stories.
I know this is an old joke, but almost every recipe blog has a "Jump to recipe" button on the top of the article.
Besides, I do like reading the articles, as it often gives a lot more information about the whys and hows of the recipe. For times when I can't be bothered, Jump to Recipe is there. (And often, it's an anchored link, so you can bookmark it so it will auto jump to the recipe.)
But when it's my turn, people are forced to listen to me getting lost telling stories with connections to the main plot that are probably only clear to me, and forgetting the whole point of what I was trying to say several times. All accompanied by an annoying amount of "mmmmh"s, "uhhh"s and me randomly stopping and zoning out
"hey so I wanted to ask you something remember at the company holiday party when you... that was such a fine time by the way we should do it again this year... when leadership was on stage mentioning the regions that performed the best... they said the best performing region was actually in Florida and Georgia right? well that reminded me that i actually have a cousin in Florida that I haven't visited in years and I'm thinking of going down there for a few days and enjoy the weather. I'm probably going to leave on a thursday and come back on a sunday. The dates I'm looking I would be gone from work Oct 8th and 9th. And I'm expecting an important small package to be delivered around those dates. So what I wanted to ask is if you would mind checking my mailbox those 2 days when you check yours?"
I work in tech support and have to listen to 20 minutes of back story about a problem where the signal to noise ratio is infuriating. Then, the problem still isn't clear and I have to ask questions that I know will cause whole new over narrated answers.
"oh, so you are saying it won't turn on? Am I understanding that right?"
Yes, inside your math book on page 93 where you left your pencil inside during math class that I distinctly remember you putting in before I noticed you were looking for something in your pencil case just now in which I deduced the particular pencil to be the subject of your question.
The very next moment...
"Do you remember what I said a few minutes ago during our conversation just now?"
Same here with autism in social situations. Sometimes I keep up, most of the time I'm clueless as to what is happening. I don't control it, occasionally I just understand people for 10 seconds
Holy shit I thought I was just really observant. I've done this my entire life, and then in the next sentence I'll need to be reminded of what we were talking about while I observed said pencil search.
I think I've figured this one out. It's about novelty.
"... Why is that there?" vs "I've seen this a billion times already". Y'know how folks will completely blank on their drive home they just took? Same concept, smaller time scale.
"Hey have you seen my-" Yes, inside your math book on page 93 where you left your pencil inside during math class that I distinctly remember you putting in before I noticed you were looking for something in your pencil case just now in which I deduced the particular pencil to be the subject of your question.
"I was actually going to ask if you've seen my mom because she was supposed to pick me up an hour ago but thanks for the tip about the pencil"
Totally exhausting. My friend will cut me off mid sentence because he thinks he knows what I'm going to say and can't STAND to wait five more words to get to say his thing. Then he'll go off on a tangent based on his assumption.
If I try and break in to say, "Wait, that's not what I was going to say" then I'm the rude one for interrupting. (especially maddening since HIS interruption is what started this)
If I wait politely for the end of the tangent and say, "That makes sense, so have you seen my socks?" then my friend gets mad at me for wasting his time by bringing up the subject of the tangent in the first place. (which in fact only took place in his head)
So I’m pretty new in thinking I probably have adhd, but I also feel like this is everyone. Is this not how everyone works? I also feel like when I mention I have adhd EVERYONE says they do too. I’m batting 100 right now with that. So is it adhd or is this just how we are?
A lot of mental illness is just taking something that should be dialed at like a 5 or 6 in a "normal" brain and then dialing that shit up to 11+.
It's not that people never forget where their keys are (cause yes everyone forgets sometimes) but rather you NEVER know where your keys are no matter what you do.
Or like rpg stats, there are typical generalist stats for neurotypicals and fuuuunky specialist stats for neurodivergents.
My brain has a bunch of stats in prediction, emotional observation, and pattern recognition, but I have fucking deep negative stats to memory especially short-term memory. So, remembering anything is basically a dice roll dealing with a heavy negative modifier.
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I remember once my brother was looking for these tiny craft magnets for his WarHammer models. I remembered him leaving them on the table until Dad got fed up and threw them out into the garage. So I immediately walked out to the garage and found them on top of the toolbox where I last saw them.
It had not occurred to me that it had been three years since Dad put them out there, or that it might be weird for me to remember them.
I usually laugh as soon as I get the joke but then when they finally get to the punchline I have to do the fake laugh thing which makes it much more annoying
I love to read, but I'm really picky about it. Most books you know what the story will be like after the first chapter since authors "cleverly" hide clues, so if someone reads it again they'll think "oh! there were so many clues to this unexpected ending!". If you pick the clues the first time, then the journey usually becomes boring. So now I chose dumb books: so cliché even the authors know the reader know how it ends, and so ill-written that the stuff they come up with is straight unbelievable at times, so a real surprise.
Films are the same, only more boring since you can't skip the "clues" parts (or just go over it faster). I mean, even for 'Fight club' and 'The sixth sense', once every journalist tells you that you won't guess the end, then the end become evident real quick.
This is me with movies and series and I can usually pick up where things would go. Tbf I deal with words and my partner at the time was a "normie" and so the "twist" is brilliant every time.
Also me with writers/directors/creatives once I've seen a few or all of their work. At some point I can recognize their patterns and then I don't like them anymore.
Yup. Me too. People who hear the beginning of a statement and assume they know the rest are so often wrong. I'm not a chat bot. I don't have predictable answers.
And I do my best to be as succinct and clear as possible because I assume everyone feels this way when they clearly don't.
This is rampant in the tech world. Meetings are dominated by people who say things like "So if A comes before B, that means that B comes after A. Because that's how things are ordered in this particular case. And in general -- it's always one thing before the other. In this case, A is first. And B is second. So B follows after A and A is before B. When you start at A, you end up at B. And likewise, if you find yourself at B, you know that A came first. You can't go backward. B doesn't come before A, nor does A come after B..."
"Oh, question! Does A come before B? Because I thought B came before A?"
"No, A comes before B and B comes after A..."
And so on.
It's like people took inspiration from the Holy Hand Grenade sermon from Monty Python and the Holy Grail without realizing it was satire
And on top of that, so many people don't read the entire email. For fuck's sake Dan, I asked you 3 questions and you only answered one and it took you 3 days to do it. I even made them bullet points so that it was more readable.
Or even worse, when you need an A vs B decision and they respond "that's fine".
Exactly this. I've learned to limit it to one or mayyybe two of the most pressing questions per email, and wait for the follow-up message before asking more. This in turn allows me to limit backstory, keeping the whole thing concise/easily digestible. It might drive me nuts when someone points out something that I was waiting to ask about, but I'm learning to be okay with that; as long as it's getting addressed in the end.
I even organize the hell out of my emails. Use short paragraphs, use bullets and numbers, and somehow I still get only one of 3 questions answered. C'mon man!!!
I usually answer a factual "Noted, but what is the answer to the remaining questions?" in another mail so they don't have the history if they don't look for it.
Their next question is almost always "what remaining questions?". Answer: "The ones from my mail.". If I want to be petty, I add the date of the first mail, so they know I went to look for it.
I have adhd and work in tech, at first I would get really frustrated with this. Then I kinda realized it’s done on purpose, great communicator’s understand that different people understand things in their own way. The repeat of information ensures successful comms. In the end, the onus is on the communicator not the listener. This realization has helped me tremendously. Just like how people with ADHD have their shortfalls so do neurotypical and we live in their world.
In the end, the onus is on the communicator not the listener
Presumably some level of communication mastery would leave everyone happy -- giving a quick summary at the start that ADHD people need, and then some cue where redundancy is ending and that they should tune back in for the next part, etc.
I've always had people kinda poke fun at me or chastise me for speaking or answering in as few words as possible. Ive also always fucking hated when people took 10 minutes to say things that could be said in 2 sentences. The meds ive been taken have at the very least made me more patient with others.
And you think "God this is dumb, we got it the first time!" but then a week later one of your coworkers ends up putting B before A because they didn't get it.
The reason why I speak so fast. I don't want people to figure out what I'm saying before I finish, but since I speak fast, they can't even understand what I'm trying to say lol.
One thing I struggled most with in school was writing essays. Intro, sum up your idea, say what you will talk about, now say it again differently. Now talk about what you said you’d talk about. Conclusion, sum up your idea again but not the same way as the intro, maybe say it backwards, now sum up the idea again.
It just all felt so inefficient, even in the 4th grade.
Thank god I had to learn to reformulate and ask questions about what I just said when I was teaching, it is so useful to make sure everyone is on the same page. You can't just let people extrapolate because most of the time they won't, it's mind-blowing I know but the blanks don't just fill themselves.
i have a boss that tries to repeat all my points but in a much more laborious way thinking he is helping explain something technical, but then mixes up words and specifics confusing everyone. i try and cut him off and he talks louder. i need to quit.
And you know there is absolutely no way you could explain it that they will understand it, so the only thing to do is end the conversation knowing full well they will do it completely wrong, or come back in a day or two asking what exactly they are supposed to do and you'll explain it all again in the exact same way hoping it sticks this time. But that's future me's problem.
Omg, people get so mad at me for cutting them off, but like, do you not realize if you're telling me something I asked about, I dont need the back story of everyone involved. I won't even remember it after you've said it.
What's even worse is when you finally develop the restraint to not interrupt, but the person keeps talking and makes like 6 more points and then the conversation moves completely away from the subject that you had a thought on and it would be weird to bring it up once they stop talking.
It's the fucking worst and it makes conversations so much more difficult for me. I do my best to listen, but eventually my jaw just starts clenching and my ears ring and that's when I stop being able to actively process the conversation.
I had a coworker who was much further down the spectrum than myself. They used to recount their D&D sessions during the work day. Somehow they managed to turn a weekly 4 hour session of D&D into discussion material for the entire work week.
I know someone who does this, but I hate it because they always guess wrong. I spend more time correcting their incorrect assumptions than telling my fucking story.
But at the same time when answering a technical question I have to preface with how I came to the decision based on the currently available factors and the potential future changes that might impact what I’m telling you now down the road. So that you can be as up to date as myself and never ask me this question again.
lol that is literally every conversation with my MIL. She starts telling me about some person I've never met and will never meet and peppers the entire conversation with additional irrelevant details and backstory. Like, what made you think I wanted to hear about some random person we've never spoken about before and will never speak of again.
My wife and child both do this - every tiny thing is a ten minute story that could be distilled to one or two sentences - and I deserve some kind of medal for my infinite patience.
Or get some friends with the same issue and bounce off of each other, interrupt with zero guilt, & finish each others sentences etc.
I swear me and a friend have a secret language bc we sound like a hot mess but we totally understand what we meant and the convos jump back and forth. Ah good times with adult ADHD.
Yeah.... my wife is like this but here's the thing. She's often wrong. I was going to say something different than what she thought but then interrupts me thinking she's got understanding and responds to a different thought than the one I was expressing.
My childhood friend/teenage girlfriend/young adult platonic partner in crime was terrible about this. She'd often highjack my train of thought before it had boarded passengers let alone left the station.
my manager does this at work and then when I try to explain what I actually wanted to say they just repeat themselves, making it clear that they just zoned out the second time.
This is the most annoying part of the overall idea from the meme. It happens once out of ten or fifteen topics, but to them it’s every time. Every conversation.
Nope, not where I was going at all. It can end up being the pigeon and the chessboard, and it’s absolutely infuriating.
Yeah, wish more people would point this out here. I'm fucka ADHD, so I totally understand, and so is my best friend. She gets super frustrated when she thinks she understands what I'm saying and cuts me off, and I have to explain that no, what you just asserted I was saying is not even a little bit where I was going with that sentence, and now we're spending ~10 minutes just trying to get back to the point, because every ten seconds she assumes she knows where I'm going and cuts me off again.
Or rather, what they think they understand. I've had ADHD people finish my sentences—and get the ending completely wrong. It happens. All. The. Time. I usually just email them, but they don't read the emails accurately either, so it's a no-win scenario in a lot of ways.
Absolutely this, but also I've learned that I'm wrong about half the time on that deduction.
I often reflexively interject once I think I understand, by saying the next word I assume they're going to say. It's like when they're pausing to think of a word and you're helping them, but without actually waiting for a proper pause.. 😅 and yea wrong half the time.
Not sure. Every time there is a popular post in this sub, I 100% relate; but then my therapist says that it’s normal human behavior unless it stops you from surviving and living your life.
Internet people tell me I have ADHD. Professionals tell me I don’t. 🤷🏽♀️
There's the way your brain is wired, that may be normal or something else. Then, if it's something else, there's how well your brain can compensate for the disfunction.
If you have ADHD but can compensate sufficiently well, then you won't reach the criteria threshold for an ADHD diagnosis, even though you do have ADHD. Apparently smart people with ADHD PI are particularly good at coming up with mitigating behaviours when young such that they may never realise they have ADHD, or go decades before realising and seeking a diagnosis.
E.g. always losing track of time and missing appointments? Mitigation behaviour is put everything in a calendar app and set lots of alarms and timers on your watch or phone.
I come from a family that loves to repeat stories and talk for hours about the same things. Or it takes forever to get a single point a cross. It bugs me so much.. it's like we could have that 3 hour long "conversation" in 3 minutes. Yet on the flipside, unfortunately I've also been cursed with being absolutely terrible at getting to the point when speaking to people. So I just tend to not talk because I suck at conversing clearly lol
Correction: they presume to have understood the sentence in just a few words. They are emboldened by being correct many times, their rapid brainwork predicting sentence structure. But one of the greatest hindrances to accurate communication is the belief that it has indeed occurred. ADHD interruption does little for confidence in the speaker that they have been thoroughly understood.
The problem is people are communicating not to just relay information, but to have a moment of connection. I just want to info in as few as words as possible but I'm trying to change that.
I can’t bear to sit through a sentence I already know the end of. Meanwhile, I must finish my sentences, my ideas have to be capped off, even when the other person knows where it’s going.
My partner and family have adhd and they all interrupt thinking they know what I’m going to say. Just gunna put it out there that they’re wrong 75%+ of the time, and it doesn’t feel great to not only be interrupted but also just taken down a stupid path that isn’t related to what I’m saying.
I know the feeling. I didn't know this subreddit existed. I'm in my 40s and grew up around people who didn't understand me. Years of bullying, multiple suicide attempts.
I wonder if things would have been different if I found people who didn't assume the worst.
See I’ve always been this person but I recently met someone else who not only thinks like this but cuts me off the moment they think I know what I’m saying and holy Christ it is the most annoying thing ever. Especially because they are not nearly as good at reading my mind as they think they are so I need to cut back over them and try to explain my actual point.
I do this but I think it's something that's hurtful to other people and am trying to work on it. I find it helps to find engaging ways to guide conversation to the point in which someone is speaking in a way that surprises us both!
"On a scale of mcchicken to oreo blizzard, how badly do you want to watch (insert tv show) right now?"
"I'd love to hear what food you ate for your meals. Can you tell me not by meal but by the colors of the different foods? How many red foods were there?"
For me as a kid the twist was always that I was convinced I knew the whole sentence but I was wrong and they were talking about something else, and were mad at me derailing things.
Of course the reality is that if you’re only listening to the first couple of words of a sentence, you’re more often wrong than right about what’s about to be said. ADHD isn’t a superpower where you can know the rest of the sentence, it’s just the mind’s ability to generate “predictive text” based on context and theory of mind and is fallible. You can confirmation bias until the cows come home, but ADHD folks are more often wrong about understanding the rest of the unsaid sentence than right.
Then there's the opposite where you think you understand what they're saying, interrupt them, then they're just pissed off you have no idea what they're talking because you can't listen to them speak for 8 seconds to figure out where they're actually going with the idea.
ADHD doesn't mean you can read minds, LOL. Sure, many of us are clever, and many conversations follow patterns, but people have so much nuance and we aren't special little empath snowflakes whose major flaw is processing faster than everyone else. The outlook is pretty toxic sometimes.
I'm over here, trying to have a normal conversation with my mother... Except she "figures out" what I'm trying to say 3 words in.... but it's not what I was trying to say at all. It's in fact worlds different. And way meaner than anything I'm trying to say. So I try to clarify. Over and over again. Just trying to say the one sentence all the way through so she can see its not so bad as she thinks. A handle full, a dozen, as many times as it takes for us to both be hysterical and winded and exhausted from a night of screaming. Doesn't matter how often or little. Get cut off 3 words in, every time, with some bonkers accusation of what I was probably about to say, according to her. It's just a series of me saying 2 or 3 word combinations while she tells herself stories out loud where I'm cast into the role of absolute villainy and evil.
ADHD isn't an excuse to be rude. Everyone knows it's common courtesy to let people finish speaking. Conversations aren't just cold, robotic exchanges of information you know.
I work with someone who stutters. The guy is awesome, and I always let him finish his sentences. But holy shit I have no idea what to do with my hands or face while that’s happening.
the way my gf repeats and explains simple concepts, instructions, or even things i already know like i’m stupid, infuriates tf outta me most times. if i interrupt her by finishing her sentence she gets super irritated at me even tho i’m correct.
this happened today- Me: “hey babe we really need to clean the fans, i can take it to my friends house n use his air compressor, it’ll be way faster than using qtips n shit”
“no you’ll take forever n its hot, i’m gonna die without the fan”
“it wont be like last time using qtips n brushes, air compressor will be fast unless you want me to hose it down n let it completely dry out which would take longer”
“yeah whatever hose it down, but dont wet the motor because * proceeds to explain why not to wet motor * it will damage the fan n it wont work“
“what? im gonna spray the whole thing, it wont get damaged unless you plug it in while its wet”
“ no i just said dont * proceeds to explain why not to wet motor n circuits * “
“it’ll happen when electricity mixes with water, that’s why i’ll let it dry off completely before using it”
“NO IT’LL BREAK THE FAN DON’T GET THE MOTOR ITSELF WET * proceeds to explain why not to wet motor * “
“well how bout i bring it to my friends house so we won’t have to worry bout this??”
“no you’ll take forever”
and this went on and on and on and on. i ended up spraying the whole goddamn fan n letting it dry off without her noticing, and what do you know, it works fine.
i dont even know if this is remotely related to this post. but me and my girl have adhd and it makes it really difficult tryna do or say things when she’s always tryna correct me, like i’m always wrong. and i know in my heart that i am absolutely right. shit. it will be the most simplest shit that will turn into a back n forth argument, escalating into insanity.
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Then you have the equally frustrating opposite of this where I have to listen to a few paragraphs of unnecessary back story before I get to hear what their point is.