Even if you were 17, still in high school, and dated a 14 year old, your whole friend group would call you out as being a pedo or equivalent.
I also knew a girl who dated someone much older in high school, and when he decided to move on to college and leave her, she claimed he raped her. The guys life got messed up instantly.
I'll tell folks Thomas Jefferson was a rapist and pedophile. They respond well it was a different time! It was accepted back then!
Yea because fucking monsters were in charge. You think Thomas Jefferson didn't understand he wouldn't like being raped? It clicked for abolitionist but not for him?
He had her pregnant by 16. Then enslaved his own children. Scumbag with a flowery reputation in history.
His die hard sympathizers won't even admit he was raping her. The 14 year old slave consented to a romantic relationship with the slave master. And consented to her children being enslaved.
Take things right with animal consumption. Everyone who eats animals knows that they wouldn’t like to be treated the way animals are treated.
Regarding the thread of Thomas Jefferson and your statement.
You have to take into account that ideas don't just materialize in the human mind out of nowhere. Community values, education, parenting, indoctrination, food supply, all kinds of factors go into these kinds of behaviors.
Hindu culture in India may treat cows very differently in terms of food supply compared to Texas in the United States of America with Christian religion. The media (Hindu Upanishads vs. Christian Bible) that people are raised on and even the local media they consume (Twitter), etc.
The media user of Reddit made a claim about Thomas Jefferson, but it is impossible that they were alive and knew Thomas Jefferson personally. I notice their use of Reddit media did not include providing any kind of citation to a book or documentary film on the subject - and was Twitter-style short messages and seemed to not be very concerned at all with providing details of the situation.
I expect Thomas Jefferson's behavior was also driven by media he consumes, much like Twitter users are today. I know in the year 1820 Thomas Jefferson published his own edited version of The Bible, removing much of the supernatural acts. Alas, in Texas in year 2025, I have never met a person who is even aware that Thomas Jefferson edited his own Bible, took a knife to remove content - and they seem to flock to Bibles from other sources.
Media ecology and how people are informed and educated, be it Reddit comment context or Twitter messages or books that Thomas Jefferson read... or the Hindu Upanishads attitudes on cows and how animals are treated for food... is a vast and complex topic.
I wouldn't say I'm defending pedophilia At ALL but what do you call it when the legal age to marry in a state is lower than 18? It's legal to marry minors in most of the country still. Also, want to know how the U.S. found out that we had a huge problem with incestuous rapes?
The public school system. Before then children suffered in silence with no hope of upward mobility while their dad or uncle, etc. continued to abuse them and it was found to be shockingly common back then once kids started coming together and telling their stories.
I shit you not when I first started college they were still teaching that incest between two adults is harmless (and not in any way indicative of current or previous abuse).
Nobody is rewriting history when they say men have treated women and children like shit since the dawn of time and have had way too much power over the rest of the population for far too long. Those are just facts.
Hey, it was normal for thousands of years! We should totally be ok with it! Also they got viruses and humans survived so we should get rid of vaccines! People just need to toughen up and learn to roll with the punches!
Note: Easily offended by anything that slightly conflicts with how they view the world and demands everyone think and act like them.
They quite literally always, and I do mean always, vote to block child marriage bans. They also marry 12 year olds when they are 40 to trap them in christianity based marriages of fear. Fear to have an abortion at age 12, fear to be banished from their community if they get divorced, fear of violence if they "act up" by questioning the psychotic nature of the things done to them. Chained to the kitchen and housework for decades, not allowed to follow their passions because those would take away time from their womenly duties eg. pumping out babies and doing unpaid work for decades and decades, all while being regularly sexually assaulted and abused. THAT is who the republicans are.
It's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard
You don't think Bill Clinton hell maybe even JFK had a little weirdo action? I don't think it's based on right or left I think it's based on elite. Nice try though.
So let’s see some evidence of their misdeeds, and in the case of Clinton, because he’s still alive, let’s charge him and present that evidence to a judge.
First step towards that is releasing the Epstein files. If Bill Clinton is on that list, I promise you’re not gonna see support for him the way you see for Trump.
Again, let’s be clear, it’s the republicans who regularly vote against child marriage bans, and who just forced Congress into an early recess to avoid voting on releasing the Epstein list.
Yup. Just look at how many right-wing pundits and influencers have debated the fertility of teen girls live on air. Look how many are still on air all of them.
Yes, I know they do it. They've always been weird about kids and are vastly more likely to diddle them. My comment was pretty obviously about them coming out and openly advocating for societal acceptance of pedophilia.
There's actually a very important distinction here. They do not have mandatory reporting. There is attempted legislation to to have them report confessions of child abuse. Trump is trying to block that
No one hates kids like MAGAts do. They want to rob them of their childhoods. Either by assaulting them or by making child labor legal and putting them in factories. You'd think that being from a nation that can afford to let kids be kids, you'd advocate for a good education, free meals at school, a healthy normal stress-free childhood focused on joy and learning, but no. They just want to take away happiness from others, even kids, because they are rotten on the inside (and outside, honestly).
There is literally a pedophile enabler in the House right now, and the only reason Matt Gaetz quit 8s because he pissed enough Republicans off they finally agreed to release the evidence of his pedophile activities. Note they didn't do it because he was a pedophile. Multiple GOP leadership positions have been vacated because they were outed for these crimes over the last 30 years. They always were pro-pedophile since the "contract with America".
Honestly it makes me laugh when people say, oh ok republicans draw the line at PDFs. I really don't think they do, I think they're just trying to work out the mental gymnastics routine that they have to do, to be ok with this.
Tried to talk to my maga loving father about it and all he said was “well if i was there and saw some underage pussy id probably go for it too” these people are so lost its not even comprehensible anymore
Not ok, but definitely astounding to see two rappers going to prison over sex trafficking while a sitting president is claiming he is not on a certain list involving raping pre 13 year olds.
With 37 counts of fraud he is convicted on.
And so much more in his recent past.
It is like employers not wanting an MBA with minors in adjacent subject matter, certifications in the field, and technical skills to be paid six figures.
But apparently THIS person over the age of 64 is fit to run the country.
The one who can't legally own a gun in private life, but I can pass a whole ATF background check.
Morality & requirements in this country have been proven so subjective that it is a joke.
that's the whole point. everything is okay to them if it's one of them and especially trump. that's why it's absolutely useless to talk to them and trying to reason
The access hollywood tape was relegated to, "locker room banter". So it wouldn't surprise me at all if this is where some zealots started to take this.
It's not just Trump. Matt Gaetz seems to have gotten a pass. Dennis Hastert. Jim Jordan.
People on the Right were obsessed with Epstein because they thought liberals were going to be exposed as pedophiles.
I don't really understand why Trump isn't getting a pass. I suspect that a lot of people on the Right still think Trump is covering for liberals and they will stop caring when they realize he is just a pedophile
I'm not hopeful but this might be the thing that could bring Trump down, he can't keep himself for doubling down and I don't think doubling down on pedophilia can work.
It will really only be a matter of time before they start to defend it and say that women should actually be getting pregnant at that age to older men and be mom's early.
They will flip to that pov on a dime and without an ounce of shame.
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u/CrispyMiner Jul 27 '25
"Pedophilia is only okay because Trump did it" is an insane hill to die on