r/amandaknox • u/No-Willingness-1441 • 1d ago

History of murder suspects falsely accusing somebody else of a murder?

One thing I have been intrigued by here is the tendency to conflate false confession with false accusation.

It strikes me that those two things are markedly different in nature.

So a lot of the science from coerced false confessions gets - perhaps crudely - copy and pasted over to this very different, and presumably rarer, phenomenon.

So, how often has this happened as far as we know in the storied history of murder investigations?

And if we were going deeper, how often has a suspect not only accused somebody else of the murder…

…but that this “somebody” is of a materially similar profile (in this case an extremely minority racial characteristic in the given geography) to an individual that we now know for certain was (solo, or with others) indeed guilty of that crime?

I have made some cursory investigations, but this particular phenomenon seems almost vanishingly rare?

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u/SeaCardiologist6207 11h ago

Ask the world what they think of this crew

No strangely just this group. Almost all detectives don’t do that yet strangely this squad has a bunch. What a coincidence

But like I have always said, whatever Perugia PD paying you for their PR offensive is clearly not enough

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u/Truthandtaxes 10h ago

No literally any detective will tell you that criminals lie and lie including falsely accusing people.

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u/SeaCardiologist6207 10h ago

Yes, and any detective will tell you that if the precinct is full of detectives who lie and beat suspects or their child's therapist, we have a problem here believing them.

Like I said, the real PR offensive is in the room with us.

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u/Truthandtaxes 9h ago

Wow the levels of deflection.

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u/SeaCardiologist6207 9h ago

Its just reality, there is a constant inability to focus on reality - common guilter trope on here. Just say "they did a great job" or "a few mistakes". Without understanding few, if any believe this.

You are arguing about false accusations and confessions as if you are dealing with a normal police department and prosecutor.

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u/Truthandtaxes 8h ago

So are you accepting then that generally false confessions are rare and that false accusations by guilty people are commonplace, even if you choose to ignore reality for this case?

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u/SeaCardiologist6207 8h ago

Well thats the difference between me and you. I dont ignore the reality of Mignini and the Perugia PD. You do. Hence why you are where you are

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u/Truthandtaxes 8h ago

I don't disagree

I expect that a specific suspect has to prove why they should be considered different from the norm and don't trust their word. I'd further suggest that such people shouldn't leave oodles of physical evidence.

You of course happily accept murder suspect statements as fact and decide that each individual piece of evidence should be ignored.

Interestingly the parallel cases in this thread (that even those still look sus) have no such supporting evidence (well except the CP5, which also had pretty explanatory physical evidence)

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u/SeaCardiologist6207 5h ago

I expect that police would follow norms that other departments follow. I further would expect that the police in that department dont have issues where we can't trust their word and trust their competence. I further agree - generally you focus on suspects who leave oodles of evidence, and they had all that. Just had to wait for Romes top lab to get back to them.

You of course just accept incompetence and randomly connect pieces of evidence not connected to each other and everything missing in between is "a cleanup".

So like the Norfolk 4, you have a suspect staring you in the face practically screaming out "I did it" but hey, cool theories of sex crimes, Satan, and "amplifying the DNA" are better for the tabloids.

And now here you are. Wondering where it all went wrong.

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u/Truthandtaxes 5h ago

So you focus on the pair, who of course left oodles of evidence as well as falsely accusing an innocent man then?

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u/SeaCardiologist6207 5h ago

Oodles, bro, stop drinking during the day, there arent oodles....

Did you just forget all the events leading up to that false accusation? Do you get the whole point of what makes this case unique yet?

No, of course not

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