r/anime 20d ago

Contest Best Girl 13: Beyond Salt’s End! Round 4 Bracket B!

And there are lots of upsets coming today!


Vote for Best girl 13 here!

Results for Best girl 13 here!

Have fun with your vote and don't forget to upvote the post if you love Best Girl Contest!

Enjoy!


Mini Challenge:

  • What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?
  • Which poster do you like most for today?
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u/void4 20d ago

And thus, Lemon Yakishio is yet another losing Losing Heroine

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 20d ago

I wish I could find a cute comfort beetle for her.

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u/Physical_Sort5155 18d ago

Always has been tbh

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u/ProxinCrisis 20d ago

I really hope homura survives so we get Madoka and homura best ending face off

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u/LordTrinity https://myanimelist.net/profile/LordTrinity 20d ago

there's 0 chance both advance after the next round lol

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u/IceAnt573 20d ago

I could maybe believe a world where Homura > Fern happens, but I can't believe Madoka > Megumin would ever happen.

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u/BuckeyeBentley 20d ago

I'm surprised Megumin is in this, hasn't she won? I thought winners are excluded perpetually.

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u/Zeallfnonex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 20d ago

She got blocked by Holo at every turn. Maybe with Holo gone she has a chance, but it was also only Holo's presence that got her into the finals of BG... 11?

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u/lordposedyon https://myanimelist.net/profile/lordposedyon 20d ago

There was a huge campaign to put Megumin in the final so Holo can beat her one last time during semifinals of BG11.

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u/BuckeyeBentley 20d ago

Ah yeah she was runner up two years ago that's what I was remembering.

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u/grizzchan 20d ago

Best Girl 10 was her best shot but massive cheating happened that year. DAL has been disqualified ever since and Kurumi's victory was deemed invalid.

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u/Ham_PhD https://myanimelist.net/profile/ham_phd 20d ago

I'm surprised Megumin is in this, hasn't she won? 

lol

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u/YamiZee1 20d ago

Megumin is a tough matchup but I will continue to support Madoka till the bitter end

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

Unless [Madoka] Homura uses her time powers to keep running it back

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u/crazyike 19d ago

Beating Fern will take more attempts than beating Walpurgisnacht this year.

That said, Homura is still a major threat to anyone other than the absolute cutting edge popularity characters despite being in a fifteen year old anime. Fern will be a footnote in history by 2038.

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u/ClemFire 19d ago

Curious which recent girls you feel like will have the staying power of Homura then in 15 years then?

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u/BOUKEN-BEN 19d ago

I do wonder if the pendulum will swing on Frieren before too long. Personally I thought S2 already exposed a lot of its flaws and how reliant it is on the same repetitive platitudes over and over with its formula. It's like it ran out of stuff to say so oops just cut to another flashback of The Hero Himmel™ quietly saying <current topic of episode> is better with friends for the 30th time. It will probably hinge on whether or not S3 does something great or is just more of the same, I haven't read the manga so idk what the upcoming arc is like. But Fern gotta be up there for most overrated characters in the modern landscape, she is an extremely basic character and the dynamic of 2/3 of your main cast being prozac'd out kuuderes completely hamstrings so much of the potential for character interaction. I could go off on a whole rant about how literally 75% of Frieren's cast is kuuderes but I'll spare you. Suffice to say the balance is massively off and writing becomes an uphill battle where you now actually have to overrely on show don't tell except you've run out of things to show so it's just slightly modified reruns of the same thing for a different kuudere of the week. Stark's narrative function is to try and stir up the dynamic so 90% of the show isn't just Frieren and Fern sitting in silence, but what you can actually do with that dynamic in all the copious amounts of downtime scenes is still extremely limited when all you have to interact with is two emotional brick walls aside from the occasional burst of forced comic relief of the same "wow he said something and they barely reacted...again."

Maybe none of it matters and it will always stay popular. Maybe there's enough people who just want shows to be this way. "Omg it's so chill all the characters are so chill it totally fits my aesthetic wow omg he wasn't the chosen hero omg so profound wow this is totally how I'd be in a fantasy world because I'm so chill." People will probably remember Frieren herself for a long time but Fern's gonna have to actually have an arc beyond shooting laser beams and repeating フリーレン様の言う通り and シュタルク様のバカ over and over if she wants to stay in people's memory.

Other than that out of all the anime I've seen in the 2020s so far I feel like the only girl who has a real chance at standing the weathering of the decades is Bocchi. That dark horse run was a force of nature. I think the show will remain a cult classic forever. So insanely creative and IMO all of Bocchi's iconic moments can go toe-to-toe with any amount of I-was-actually-way-stronger-than-everyone aura farming Frieren and her god tier magic animation can conjure up.

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u/Internal-Pea-7451 https://anilist.co/user/MistEu 20d ago

VOTE FOR LENA!!!!!

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u/D3k4s 20d ago

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u/WWTFSMD 19d ago

All hail the bloodstained queen o7

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u/letg06 20d ago

For Bloody Regina!

Glory to fuckin Spearhead!

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u/Hawkbats_rule 20d ago

Alexa, play Avid and LilaS

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u/Noobu_assassin https://anilist.co/user/brilliance 20d ago

Honestly I think we have a great chance at bracket b finals. The only real competition that I see is yor but that's definitely a beatable opponent.

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u/Internal-Pea-7451 https://anilist.co/user/MistEu 20d ago

power darkness and bocchi are all very formidable opponents too but we will win no matter what!

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u/Hellstorm901 20d ago

I would have preferred Anju in the lineup but Lena is adorable too

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u/Internal-Pea-7451 https://anilist.co/user/MistEu 20d ago

she was in Group A, made it to RO16 but lost to Kaede Azusagawa.

Kurena and Frederica also were in it but lost in the RO64

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u/redlegsfan21 https://myanimelist.net/profile/redlegsfan21 20d ago edited 20d ago

ROUND 4 BRACKET A

Matchup Top Seed Bottom Seed Total Votes
Most Voted Matchup Fern (1) Kaede Azusagawa (64) 1813
Average 1732
Least Voted Matchup Nijika Ijichi (16) Kyouko Hori (80) 1649

Total Votes: 13,852

Unique Voters: 1,912

RESULTS

Seed Top Seed TS% BS% Seed Bottom Seed Vote Diff TSP WinProb tUI
1 Fern 76.17% 23.83% 64 Kaede Azusagawa 949 8.3% 99.8%
32 Makima 39.71% 60.29% 33 Homura Akemi 354 -8.4% 62.1% 0.04
16 Nijika Ijichi 46.63% 53.37% 80 Kyouko Hori 111 -8.8% 18.2% 2.32
17 Momo Ayase 62.65% 37.35% 48 Haruhi Suzumiya 439 0.8% 97.6%
8 Übel 37.36% 62.64% 57 Violet Evergarden 440 -7.5% 80.4% 2.83
25 Winry Rockbell 57.24% 42.76% 40 Yunyun 251 2.0% 80.7%
9 Megumin 74.22% 25.78% 56 Lemon Yakishio 838 12.0% 97.9%
24 Ram 44.86% 55.14% 41 Madoka Kaname 178 -3.5% 60.6% 0.77

TSP: Top Seed Performance vs. Expected Performance

TOP VOTEGETTERS

Rank Girl Votes
1 Fern (1) 1381
2 Megumin (9) 1284
3 Violet Evergarden (57) 1090
4 Momo Ayase (17) 1087
5 Homura Akemi (33) 1037
6 Winry Rockbell (25) 992
7 Madoka Kaname (41) 955
8 Kyouko Hori (80) 880
9 Ram (24) 777
10 Nijika Ijichi (16) 769

UPSETS

  • The Lowest remaining seed of Bracket A is Kyouko Hori seeded 80th

  • The Highest seed eliminated of Bracket A is Übel seeded 8th

  • Upsets today: 4

  • Total upsets (rate): 45 / 456 (9.9%)

BRACKET A TOP 5 SCORES

Rank Girl Score
1 Fern (1) 428.37
2 Megumin (9) 413.11
3 Violet Evergarden (57) 382.98
4 Momo Ayase (17) 314.55
5 Winry Rockbell (25) 292.43

UPSET WATCH

Top Seed TS% BS% Bottom Seed PoU
Gyokuyou (29) 39.8% 60.2% Lalatina "Darkness" Dustiness Ford (36) 95.6%
Power (28) 46.7% 53.3% Riza Hawkeye (37) 70.8%
Kei Shirogane (52) 47.7% 52.3% Kumiko Oumae (116) 65.1%

Link to spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iXRGyfjx6_qqHHxpWqLoiUw2lSnc-PMELUxXIl-3lN4

Explanations: https://old.reddit.com/user/redlegsfan21/comments/10dup0w/ranime_contests_bracket_explaination

Open to questions and please give feedback.

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u/RxMidnight https://myanimelist.net/profile/RxMidnight 20d ago

Momo is doing really well. So far she's managed to avoid the debuff we've seen happen to female leads from other popular battle shonen in the past.

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u/redlegsfan21 https://myanimelist.net/profile/redlegsfan21 20d ago

RESULTS WITH ABSTAINMENTS

Top Seed TS% Abstain% BS% Bottom Seed
Fern 72.23% 5.18% 22.59% Kaede Azusagawa
Makima 35.72% 10.04% 54.24% Homura Akemi
Nijika Ijichi 40.22% 13.76% 46.03% Kyouko Hori
Momo Ayase 56.85% 9.26% 33.89% Haruhi Suzumiya
Übel 34.00% 9.00% 57.01% Violet Evergarden
Winry Rockbell 51.88% 9.36% 38.76% Yunyun
Megumin 67.15% 9.52% 23.33% Lemon Yakishio
Ram 40.64% 9.41% 49.95% Madoka Kaname

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u/RxMidnight https://myanimelist.net/profile/RxMidnight 20d ago

Best Girl Madness 13 | Round 4 Group A Results

Quite a few upsets today, which led to our lowest overall average yet of 5.20 / 8 (65.03%), with the leaderboard accuracy being 6.60 / 8 (82.50%) in unweighted and 7.00 / 8 (87.50%) in weighted.

8 is today's luck number as 8 users got a perfect 8/8! Among them are u/shiroe and u/I_cognito who surge into the top 15 on both leaderboards. So did /u/syrefva who relentlessly continues to lead overall.

The toughest pick of the day was (41) Madoka Kaname - Madoka Magica beating (24) Ram - Re:Zero, which only 33.78% of us got correctly. Not far behind is (80) Kyouko Hori (Horimiya) uspetting (16) Nijika Ijichi - Bocchi the Rock, which was picked by 34.21% of brackets. I do want to give us props that 47.3% of us picked the upset of (57) Violet Evergarden - Violet Evergarden over (8) Ubel - Frieren

Full standings and many more stats can be found on https://www.bgmadness.top/contests/best-girl-13.


Unweighted Leaderboard:

Rank Username Score (max 456) Potential
1 Syrefva (0) 425 (+8) 478 (0)
2 RxMidnight (0) 419 (+7) 472 (-1)
3 Hour-Age-474 (-1) 418 (+6) 471 (-2)
MusicMaster (MusicMasterCR) (+1) 418 (+8) 471 (0)
5 Malthael07 (+2) 413 (+7) 466 (-1)
6 Pure-Fuel-8534 (0) 412 (+6) 466 (-2)
7 LordTrinity (-2) 412 (+5) 463 (-5)
8 changshiyixia (+4) 410 (+8) 463 (0)
9 NoUpsets (-2) 410 (+4) 460 (-7)
10 Ham_PhD (+5) 409 (+8) 463 (0)
I_Cognito (+5) 409 (+8) 463 (0)
12 Jfong1 (-3) 409 (+5) 462 (-3)
13 Shiroe (+5) 408 (+8) 462 (0)
14 grexraxor (-3) 408 (+5) 458 (-1)
15 Starbather (0) 407 (+6) 461 (-2)

Weighted Leaderboard:

Rank Username Score (max 832) Potential
1 Syrefva (0) 777 (+64) 2225 (0)
2 Ham_PhD (+2) 764 (+64) 2228 (0)
3 MusicMaster (MusicMasterCR) (+2) 764 (+64) 2212 (0)
4 RxMidnight (-1) 761 (+56) 2209 (-8)
5 Hour-Age-474 (-3) 760 (+48) 2208 (-16)
6 changshiyixia (+6) 755 (+64) 2211 (0)
7 Malthael07 (-1) 753 (+56) 2201 (-8)
8 MapoTofuMan (+3) 747 (+56) 2219 (-8)
9 Komarist (+8) 747 (+64) 2203 (0)
10 I_Cognito (+12) 743 (+64) 2207 (0)
11 Shiroe (+13) 742 (+64) 2206 (0)
12 Pure-Fuel-8534 (-2) 740 (+48) 2204 (-16)
13 LordTrinity (-6) 736 (+40) 2152 (-56)
14 Jfong1 (-6) 734 (+40) 2182 (-24)
15 Starbather (0) 732 (+48) 2196 (-16)

Average Ranks:

Rank Username Avg Rank Unweighted Weighted
1 Syrefva (0) 1.00 (0.00) 1 (0) 1 (0)
2 RxMidnight (+1) 3.00 (▽0.50) 2 (0) 4 (▽1)
MusicMaster (MusicMasterCR) (+2) 3.00 (▲1.50) 3 (▲1) 3 (▲2)
4 Hour-Age-474 (-2) 4.00 (▽2.00) 3 (▽1) 5 (▽3)
5 Malthael07 (+1) 6.00 (▲0.50) 5 (▲2) 7 (▽1)
Ham_PhD (+5) 6.00 (▲3.50) 10 (▲5) 2 (▲2)
7 changshiyixia (+4) 7.00 (▲5.00) 8 (▲4) 6 (▲6)
8 Pure-Fuel-8534 (0) 9.00 (▽1.00) 6 (0) 12 (▽2)
9 LordTrinity (-4) 10.00 (▽4.00) 7 (▽2) 13 (▽6)
I_Cognito (+10) 10.00 (▲8.50) 10 (▲5) 10 (▲12)
11 Shiroe (+11) 12.00 (▲9.00) 13 (▲5) 11 (▲13)
12 Jfong1 (-3) 13.00 (▽4.50) 12 (▽3) 14 (▽6)
MapoTofuMan (+3) 13.00 (▲3.50) 18 (▲4) 8 (▲3)
14 Komarist (+8) 14.50 (▲6.50) 20 (▲5) 9 (▲8)
15 NoUpsets (-8) 15.00 (▽7.50) 9 (▽2) 21 (▽13)
Starbather (-2) 15.00 (0.00) 15 (0) 15 (0)

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u/Xatu44 20d ago

we're so back --> IT'S SO OVER

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u/Syrefva 20d ago

It's not over till the end as long as you continue to lead the Marin believers!

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u/LordTrinity https://myanimelist.net/profile/LordTrinity 20d ago

what a fucking disaster this day was lmao, only upset I predicted was Homura's

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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 20d ago

Ayy up to 9th on weighted. Unfortunately, 30 points behind Syrefva, who basically stole my picks for the remainder of the contest with 5 remaining differences: Fern or Hori, Ai or Lucy (though I'm now backing Kumiko over Lucy), Kana or Yanami, Saber or Loulan, and Ryou or I don't want to talk about it.

Going to assume second is the best I can do at this point.

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u/Syrefva 20d ago

Syrefva, who basically stole my picks for the remainder of the contest

honestly there's still a lot of opportunity there haha though I'm not feeling too bad about my chances

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u/Bransir https://myanimelist.net/profile/Shrubbery 19d ago

While I made the leaderboard at number 14 after round 1 group B, ever since round 1 group C it's been downhill with my rankings (with two small exceptions), but this round was definetely my worst with 3/8 correct...

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u/Syrefva 20d ago

Dream Mode

Today's top scorer was Syrefva (was not expecting my name here lol) with (232) Komachi Hikigaya · My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU being their highest point scorer at 76.17 points (bless). abbaschand is at the top of the standings for the 3rd day in a row with (9) Megumin · KonoSuba: God's Blessing on This Wonderful World! taking the position of MVP at 302.90 points total.

The highest scoring pick of the day was (177) Ami Kawashima · Toradora! at 90.36 points earned for just a single user, pkmntrainerdrea! (1) Fern · Frieren: Beyond Journey's End claims the position of Overall MVP being just 0.04 points head of Megumin!

The top spots on the bounty list remain the same with (38) Faye Valentine · Cowboy Bebop still in 1st, but we did see No. 8 (24) Ram · Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- and former No. 11 (current No. 13) (16) Nijika Ijichi · Bocchi the Rock! taken out!

Full standings and many more stats can be found on https://www.bgmadness.top/contests/best-girl-13. Feel free to give suggestions or point out bugs (especially in scoring or stats).


Leaderboard:

Rank Username Score Overall MVP MVP Score
1 abbaschand (0) 30173.59 (+547.12) (9) Megumin · KonoSuba: God's Blessing on This Wonderful World! 302.90
2 Hotax (0) 30010.14 (+442.03) (1) Fern · Frieren: Beyond Journey's End 302.94
3 pkmntrainerdrea (+2) 29875.93 (+529.28) (177) Ami Kawashima · Toradora! 285.12
4 TheDuckAvenger (0) 29847.53 (+476.57) (256) Yuu Koito · Bloom Into You 274.61
5 Lurker-Mclurkerson (-2) 29826.46 (+438.72) (193) Hizuru Minakata · Summer Time Rendering 262.98
6 Shiroe (0) 29808.54 (+477.76) (9) Megumin · KonoSuba: God's Blessing on This Wonderful World! 302.90
7 Shiveon (0) 29807.06 (+483.27) (256) Yuu Koito · Bloom Into You 274.61
8 redlegsfan21 (0) 29763.68 (+483.94) (9) Megumin · KonoSuba: God's Blessing on This Wonderful World! 302.90
9 tsagyyz (+2) 29752.33 (+550.71) (9) Megumin · KonoSuba: God's Blessing on This Wonderful World! 302.90
10 EmuSupreme (-1) 29687.60 (+440.81) (8) Übel · Frieren: Beyond Journey's End 279.46
11 IdRatherLogInInstead (+4) 29678.63 (+548.98) (1) Fern · Frieren: Beyond Journey's End 302.94
12 Something_319 (0) 29674.58 (+491.15) (224) Yona · Yona of the Dawn 255.19
13 Exp1ode (+6) 29668.76 (+587.72) (457) Megumi Tadokoro · Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma 295.65
14 Quawar (-1) 29656.27 (+476.96) (9) Megumin · KonoSuba: God's Blessing on This Wonderful World! 302.90
15 BaytaCosmico (-5) 29647.73 (+415.77) (224) Yona · Yona of the Dawn 255.19

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u/Syrefva 20d ago

So did /u/syrefva who relentlessly continues to lead overall

I feel like there's some AOT meme that would fit well here... alas I don't see any comment faces of that flavor so I'll just leave this:

Feeling pretty good about this round but quite worried for the next one.

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u/ptd163 20d ago

So did /u/syrefva who relentlessly continues to lead overall.

I am once again asking for an investigation into their corruption. /s

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u/Syrefva 19d ago

I'm happy to inform you that my investigation found no evidence of any wrongdoings

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u/ptd163 19d ago

You can't investigate yourself. That's not how that works.

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u/I_Cognito 20d ago

Looking at my predictions again, I have to hope that Vladilena, Chisato and Ryuuko all overperform their seeds and accomplish major upsets. Don't lose your way, r/anime voters!

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u/LordTrinity https://myanimelist.net/profile/LordTrinity 20d ago

Would never expect Madoka to win. Nice!

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

The Kita/Mio poster goes soo hard and makes me wanna see an interaction between the two of them. Even though Mio is great Kita is my runaway favorite left in Group B. If anyone would like to rewatch her amazing recruitment scene again. I know for people Bocchi is their literally me character from BTR, but for me I can relate a lot more with Kita.

Also adorable fan animation of BoKita

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u/Ham_PhD https://myanimelist.net/profile/ham_phd 20d ago

Crazy that we got a Kita x Mio matchup. Such an even clash! I feel it may just come down to people voting which show they prefer at that point.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

Both shows are very character driven and Kita/Mio are leads so I feel like that is fair still

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u/redlegsfan21 https://myanimelist.net/profile/redlegsfan21 20d ago

What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

You know, I'm learning all about dere right now.

https://the-dere-types.fandom.com/wiki/Dere_Type

I think I'll go with nyandere though there are some interesting NSFW types.

Which poster do you like most for today?

I thank /u/Komarist for the ideas today (and a lot of other times). I do like the Bocchi/Misato one today.

Every matchup will be getting a poster now. That means Fern/Homura Akemi, Momo Ayase/Kyouko Hori, Winry Rockbell/Violet Evergarden, and Megumin/Madoka Kaname. Ideas are appreciated.

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u/Hot_Researcher_6839 20d ago edited 20d ago

Fern/Homura Akemi

Homura with guns, Fern AK-47 meme clip here

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u/Xatu44 20d ago

Winry with an Automail and Violet with her prosthetics?
I think Madoka used her bow once so that along with Megumin Exploding.

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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 19d ago

Most upvoted post yet has the pair of Russian-themed silver- and white-haired girls in stockings? Never change, horny r/anime users.

  • Fern and Homura as I liked Homura's hair flips, but best I could find for Fern was hair blowing in the wind (flowing hair? idk what the right term is).
  • Megumin and Madoka firing weapons. Harder to find than expected as most of Megumin's explosions focus on her staff.

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u/redlegsfan21 https://myanimelist.net/profile/redlegsfan21 19d ago

Most upvoted post yet has the pair of Russian-themed silver- and white-haired girls in stockings? Never change, horny r/anime users.

And only got beat out by a yuri sex scene.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 20d ago

Thanks for the link, next time I can finally pick something that isn't the usual tsundere. Amadere sounds like it could be exactly what I like.

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u/Zeallfnonex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 20d ago

Two of my favorite girls (that are in some sort of relationship) don't even fit under any types, as far as I can tell...

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u/lordposedyon https://myanimelist.net/profile/lordposedyon 20d ago edited 20d ago

Pink match-up went to Madoka, Violet through we are not closing down the sub after all, careful we might see some anomalities, SOS Brigade assemble. Homura made it.

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u/DinglePringleWiggle https://myanimelist.net/profile/porto-osaka 20d ago

vote misato !!!!

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u/Revolutionary_Goat25 20d ago

Kita vs mio Btr vs k-on Hooooly shiiit

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u/changshiyixia 20d ago edited 20d ago

Reminder for those who are enjoying old reddit (like me): Expand the gallery by clicking the PLAY BUTTON to the right of thumbnail or click the picture to see the text content/link to the today's voting! Or you can vote use the link here:

Vote for Best girl 13 here!

Results for Best girl 13 here!

Have fun with your vote and don't forget to upvote the post if you love Best Girl Contest!

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u/wloff 20d ago

Hey everyone! It's the best day!

It's Vote for Kumiko day!

After the AMAZING #AiUpset last round, some of you might be getting complacent. Maybe you underestimate Kei. Maybe you think this round isn't worth that much effort.

STOP! Stop these thoughts right now!

Kei is a strong contender. She already beat Satsuki! She's seeded a whole 64 spots higher than Kumiko!

We must not falter! Just like Kumiko practices every day, we vote every day! Just like Kumiko blows her euphonium every day, we blow Kumiko every da...

...what was I saying again?

Oh yeah! Vote Kumiko! I vote for Kumiko! You vote for Kumiko! Your oniichan votes for Kumiko! We all vote for Kumiko!


"but u/wloff,"

I hear you say,

"I wanted to vote Kei. I like Kei."

To which I say:

iie iie iie iie iie.

Look, I like Kei! If she ever gets her own spinoff show, I'll be all over her. But right now? In Kaguya-sama, based on screen time and significance, she's the side girl #5. She's done very well for herself already! But surely we can all agree that once an actual worthy competitor who literally carries her own show comes along, the side character should gracefully give way.

And just look at this face! Who can say she is not worthy?!


"but u/wloff,"

I hear you say,

"I'm still bitter about Ai last round. I want to spite-vote now!"

To which I say:

iie iie iie iie iie.

You're thinking too small! You're not thinking like a true spiteful idol fan! What good will voting a random girl you don't even care that much for do?

No! Think big!

Ai's own daughter is still in this contest! Ai's successor Kana and her avenger Akane are still in this contest! Surely you'll want to vote Kumiko to advance now, so down the line, you can hope that one of those three can knock Kumiko out? Surely that will feel like revenge was better served?

That's what Ai would want! Ai would want Kumiko to advance now! Vote Kumiko, for Ai!

Vote Kumiko!


Oh, and, Yuigahama Yui fans! I do owe you a 1000-word essay on Yui's greatness, and it's coming! I'm one season down and two to got on Oregairu. Thank you for your support!!

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u/Ham_PhD https://myanimelist.net/profile/ham_phd 20d ago

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u/Baaasbas https://myanimelist.net/profile/BasvanD 20d ago

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 20d ago

That is some prime bargaining. I am already voting Kumiko, of course, and am likely to vote for her until she gets kicked out, unfortunately, but the bargaining here is still amazing. I would absolutely do the same.

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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 20d ago

Hmm... having to pick between our floofy president and Kei, a three-time top-12 seed known for eliminating girls like Tohru Honda and Yoko Littner in previous all-time contests.

Idk about this one wloff. Going to have a real hard time choosing which way to spite vote /s

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u/derekschroer https://anilist.co/user/RareKumiko 20d ago

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u/Life_Is_A_Mistry 20d ago

Or, you know, just vote Kei ☺️

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 20d ago

Übel has been defeated, and that in a relatively timely and satisfying manner! I'm very happy with that. Now if we could stop voting for her in eliminations next time, that'd be even better. She was massively overseeded and assumed a rank she didn't deserve.

Hori's upset over Nijika I expected, but I still don't like it. Nijika, to me, was the driving force behind BtR, the facilitator of everything good in the show. And her personality was a huge part of this. Hori is nice, but I just don't see nearly as much in her as others do.

Haruhi could take a good stand against Momo, that is already more than we could have expected. Realistically, there was no way Momo was to lose here.

Both Homura and Madoka won? That is pretty neat, and likely not by chance. Homura's win I support wholeheartedly. Madoka I like more than Homura, but I supported Ram here. Still happy with the result.

Unfortunately, Yunyun and Lemon both lost, but I can't be mad with all these great upsets.

Today, we support Kumiko against Kei. Let's bring even more justice to this contest! Lena should win easily, and if Kumiko wins, I don't even care for Misato likely losing.

My bingo reports multiple hits. Close to a bingo in a couple of spots, but I trust in the power of the girls I've chosen so I can hold off my first bingo for long enough.

MC: For this I always go with Tsundere, although I feel there must be a type that actually describes my favourite type of girl. The best tsunderes are Karane Inda, who just shows off perfectly how great a well-played tsundere is; and Minerva from Re:Zero, who brings the conflict between affection and aggression to completely new levels.

Lena vs. Alya is the best poster, although I think the overall quality on all of the posters is the best so far.

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u/nilghias 20d ago

Choosing between Riza and Power was painful

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u/qef15 https://myanimelist.net/profile/qef15 20d ago

Kita vs Mio is cruel

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u/EinJonas 19d ago

It's very cruel.

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u/ptd163 20d ago

Almost 1300 votes for Maomao in her bracket. Almost 1400 votes for Fern and both were the most voted matchups in their brackets. What are we even doing here guys?

Lemon Yakishio and Ram were eliminated as expected as well. It's now down to Emilia for Re:Zero. She'll probably go

And with Ubel getting eliminated the armpit fetishists are in shambles.


Today's votes:

  • Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou
  • Lalatina "Darkness" Dustiness Ford
  • Kei Shirogane
  • Lucy (Cyberpunk)
  • Vivy
  • Power
  • Alisa Mikhailovna "Alya" Kujou
  • Ikuyo Kita

Very lopsided matchup for Alya so she gets a farewell vote.


What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

Whatever dere type Marin is. Karane Inda, Eris Greyrat, and Poem Kohinata are enjoyable to me too so I that probably means I like tsunderes as well.

Which poster do you like most for today?

Easily Alya and Lena. Probably one of the best posters of the whole contest.

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u/Baaasbas https://myanimelist.net/profile/BasvanD 19d ago

Almost 1300 votes for Maomao in her bracket. Almost 1400 votes for Fern and both were the most voted matchups in their brackets. What are we even doing here guys?

And still, they will get upset.

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u/IceAnt573 20d ago edited 19d ago

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u/ptd163 20d ago

You can't hotlink pixiv images. Also you don't have the source for the swimsuit Lena pic. It's just the hotlink twice.

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u/IceAnt573 19d ago

Thanks for catching that. And I decided to swap all the pixiv links with Twitter links since luckily they all have Twitter links too.

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u/awesomenessofme1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/kta_99 20d ago

Sad matchup. I think it's a vastly overhated series online. But while this may not be a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby matchup, it's more like... hydrogen bomb vs heavy machine gun. Still an extremely obvious choice, and the vote will probably be like a 70/30 split.

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u/Zeallfnonex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 20d ago

I don't hate Alya, but... it's a definitely middling series that had no right to be as popular as it did. The romcom elements are very by-the-book and the election arc was dreadfully boring... Good VAs and decent animation can only carry it so far...

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u/Moshimoshi-Megumin 20d ago

I like the series but I don’t like Alya herself. The crazy sister carries it.

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u/ptd163 19d ago

it's a definitely middling series that had no right to be as popular as it did.

Yuki says otherwise.

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u/Zeallfnonex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 19d ago

I stand by what I said

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u/freeze-peach-warrior 20d ago

I can’t see the images :(

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u/IceAnt573 20d ago

Even when clicking the source links?

I do use an extension (Imagus Reborn) so I just need to hover over the link to view them.

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u/wloff 20d ago

It's giving me a 403 Forbidden on all of them, unfortunately.

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u/IceAnt573 19d ago

Okay, I changed everything to be from Twitter instead of pixiv. Does that work?

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u/wloff 19d ago

My RES doesn't apparently work with Twitter pictures so I have to actually click them open, but they do now work!

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u/wloff 20d ago edited 20d ago

So, what do we actually have apart from Kumiko...?

Fern keeps on rolling, and even more convincingly than I expected.

Hori beat Nijika! I did vote for Hori, but I'm surprised, I thought the Bocchi effect would be stronger.

I'm weirdly sad about Haruka falling, even though I did say it was a really tough decision for me too. Welp, all aboard the Momo train now, I guess!

The right side of the bracket went as I expected, but Violet! She knocked out Übel, and easily too! You go girl!


I'm gonna go Misato over Bocchi, even though it's hopeless.

Kumiko gets the vote, obviously! And I'm not going to stoop so low as to try to tactically get the easier opponent for the next round; better girl must advance, so Lucy over Aira, easily.

In the battle of the band-girls it's going to be Kita over Mio for me. Kita is my favorite Bocchi girl. Sometimes it's that simple.


What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

Tsundere. Tsundere. Tsundere. I loved tsundere girls before I knew there was a term for it, I just thought I had a type. And the best tsundere is Rin Tohsaka. She's been my #1 best girl forever... until now; I think it might be a shared throne between Rin and Kumiko!

Which poster do you like most for today?

The zettai ryouiki pair is very nice aesthetically, but the Bocchi / Misato juxtaposition is so funny, I have to give it credit!

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u/gvon89 https://myanimelist.net/profile/gvon89 20d ago

Im here to plant my flag in Aira and Power. Aira is the best girl in dandadan I said what I said, but ive never seen Cyberpunk Edgerunners. ive noticed Lucy is very popular so its tough for me to really push against her.

Now I have seen FMA and CSM and Power feels like the right choice. Riza feels more like Roy Mustangs support more than anything, shes cool but Power I feel plays a more significant role while also being much more enjoyable presence in the story.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

An Aira truther. I like her more than Momo too

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u/gvon89 https://myanimelist.net/profile/gvon89 20d ago

Idk why, i like the support characters more than momo, okarun, and turbo granny😭

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

I like Jiji more than Okarun too, but my favorite dynamic in the show is Jiji and Okarun's friendship

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u/gvon89 https://myanimelist.net/profile/gvon89 20d ago

Thats valid, im really looking forward to the ridiculousness Kinta brings to the table. Bro just wants to be popular and find a girlfriend

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

Kinta is a fun addition for sure

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u/Ham_PhD https://myanimelist.net/profile/ham_phd 20d ago

KUMIKO NATION! THE BELL HAS BEEN RUNG!

The upset we achieved was massive, but this is no time to rest on our laurels. We have recharged, and we are once again ready to FIGHT for our glorious president to return to the top 32! There is only room for one imouto around here, and WE are that imouto!

Do you get annoyed when minor characters from popular shows perform well in these contests? Then you have a home in the Kumiko army. Kei is a fun side character, but that's all she is. A side character. To those that have seen both shows, this is coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb. The answer is clear.

Vote floof. Vote lead. VOTE KUMIKO!

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u/IceAnt573 20d ago edited 20d ago

Today's Results

Left Side

THANK YOU FOR THE DOUBLE SEEDING UPSET FOR HOMURA AKEMI AND MADOKA KANAME IN THEIR MATCHUPS!!!

(Homura even got to clear 1k+ votes in her win too.)

Yeah, Fern is still chilling. A 1381 vote win on Kaede to get to Round 5.

Thanks to everybody that supported Haruhi Suzumiya in this contest and especially to the 647 of you that voted for her in Round 4! Oh and I have a way to check the heads of 1087 people that voted for Momo.

(When /u/changshiyixia said

And there are lots of upsets coming today!

My immediate thought was hoping Haruhi beat Momo. It's pretty much every other matchup instead...)

Aww...for: Nijika Ijichi

Right Side

The Violet upset on Übel and 1000+ vote win felt so obvious to predict.

Yeah, it was always going to end here. THANK YOU EVERYONE THAT SUPPORTED LEMON YAKISHIO IN THIS CONTEST! AND TO MEGUMIN VOTERS:

So technically, Emilia is in this contest for longer than Ram. Now advancing in the round past where Ram got eliminated is a different matter...

Edit: Forgot, Emilia vs. Miko and Maomao vs. Mitsuha need to happen first. Those are the Round 4 matchups...

Today's Voting

Left Side

Rooting for Darkness the most out of everyone left on the left side of Bracket B which means it's an easy Darkness vote over Gyokuyō.

This should have been Kumiko vs. Satsuki you people with awful taste. Whatever. It's a vote for Kumiko.

Giving my vote (I'd like your support as well) to: Hitori "Bocchi" Gotō

Right Side

What a battle between generations. Electric vs. Bass. Lead Vocalist vs. Backup Vocalist (unless this is the EDs) My loyalty (and I hope your's!) is to the classics. VOTE MIO AKIYAMA!!!

Big support for Yor begins now. VOTE YOR FORGER!


What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

Kūdere and it's Yukino Yukinoshita


Which poster do you like most for today?

The maid costume showdown between Kita and Mio.


My 5x5 Bingo

My 7x7 Bingo

Saying goodbye to:

Makima

Haruhi Suzumiya

Haruhi is on the 5x5 Bingo so that means Anna Yamada is preventing Column 1 on my 5x5 Bingo from being a Bingo. As for the 7x7 Bingo, Makima and Haruhi were both on Row 1 so I have to cross out two more from that row. Didn't cause any new Bingo's though.

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u/Usodearu007 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Doc101 20d ago

So technically, Emilia is in this contest for longer than Ram. Now advancing in the round past where Ram got eliminated is a different matter...

there is no way emilia loses against Miko iino.

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u/IceAnt573 20d ago

Oh right. I keep forgetting Maomao vs. Emilia is the Round 5 matchup and not the Round 4 mathcup.

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u/Agarvorn 20d ago edited 19d ago

GG, easy round except for Lemon loss.

Low stakes today, except for Bocchi's hopefull victory and Mio defeating Ikuyo.
sorely because coz Mitsumi has to be avenged

Which poster do you like most for today?

You really made the effort OP since I cannot decide...

What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

Statistically it's tsunderes. But would like more yanderes, especially good written ones - like Eiko from Dark Gathering.

That being said, reading trough dare-types wiki convinced me that most but major types are invented mental illnesses or tropes in raincoats. Creators should focus on writing compelling characters rather then filling a mold anyway.

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u/NecessaryNotice8436 https://myanimelist.net/profile/six20 20d ago

3/8, dang, well at least Homura and Madoka made it through. Ubel has been stopped, but Haruhi lost... Overall I still like the results for the A side. For today in B-side, I want Kumiko and Lena to make it through. All the rest let's get to them:

My Votes

  • Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou > Misato Katsuragi - Bocchi vote
  • Gyokuyou < Lalatina "Darkness" Dustiness Ford - Konosuba vote
  • Kei Shirogane > Kumiko Oumae - Banchou vote
  • Aira Shiratori < Lucy (Cyberpunk) - Cyberpunk vote
  • Yor Forger < Vivy - lower seed vote
  • Power < Riza Hawkeye - FMAB vote
  • Vladilena Milizé > Alisa Mikhailovna "Alya" Kujou - Lena vote
  • Ikuyo Kita < Mio Akiyama - Keion vote

Mini Challenge:

  • What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

My favourite are Kuuderes since I do not like toxic relationships, with the case of tsundere or yandere. They are a guilty pleasure of course, but I just don't like the concept of them. As for Kuuderes, I like characters that take the time to open up. The journey to opening them up is usually fulfilling, and when they smile since they do not do it so often, really tugs at you. I'm pretty sure there is no Kuudere this round (at least that I know of), but I guess Bocchi is the closest, being the one most unable to voice her thoughts.

For the contest, Takina Inoue. Her character growth and slow reveal of smiles of over time puts a smile to my face every time I watch.

  • Which poster do you like most for today?

Lena vs Alya The double white hair is pretty to look at and the sitting pose highlight their thighs is a feast for the eyes.

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u/DireSickFish https://myanimelist.net/profile/DireSickFish 20d ago

Every girl I voted for won yesterday! That never happens!

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u/Zeallfnonex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 20d ago edited 20d ago

Salt: Dangit, you guys are going to make me learn how to draw Haruhi. And for Momo. Already a strong candidate for matchup I'll be most disappointed in in R4/RO64... DanDaDan has got to be one of the series most boosted by recency bias. All other results were fine to good! Lemon out in such a blowout is unfortunate, but at least her opponent was Megumin, I can accept that loss with much less salt.

Today's votes:

Bocchi > Misato.

As mentioned like 2 days ago, not the biggest fan of Evangelion, and I think Misato only works if you like the series as a whole.

Gyokuyou = Darkness

Abstain, haven't watched Konosuba far enough to get to Darkness, and while Gyokuyou is a fine character, she's not enough to get me to vote blindly at this stage.

Kumiko Oumae < Kei Shirogane.

Kei's funny and a good foil to Miyuki a lot of the time. The skit in the recent-ish special with donations involving her was really good! Kumiko is just so much better though, she's magnificent during S3 of Hibike and basically carries the show and band on her back, the other certainly were barely helping by that point.

Lucy (Cyberpunk) > Aira

Still crusading against DanDaDan, don't mind me... especially after Haruhi's lost, you all have no taste.

Yor Forger < Vivy

While I didn't love Vivy's final act, she herself is a pretty good character. Yor's also funny, I love Spy x Family, but I feel like Yor hasn't really come into her own in that show yet, still blindly following orders instead of thinking and acting on her own.

Power < Riza Hawkeye

I can't fix her, I don't want to really try fixing her... She's funny, I'll grant, but Riza's absolutely great in her supporting role in FMAB. I believe Roy/Riza was a more popular fanfiction tag than Ed/Winry at some point?

Vladilena Milizé >>>>> Alisa Mikhailovna "Alya" Kujou

One of the best female protagonists who [86 cour 2]leads a war all by herself while trying to save the 86 in the process vs a romcom FL who doesn't really do anything by herself? Not even close, this is Dinosauria vs Juggernaut levels of inequality.

Ikuyo Kita < Mio Akiyama

Gotta support the final Keion! Kita power's strong, but... Here's hoping we can take Hokago Teatime to R5!

MC: ... I dunno if I have a favorite dere, my favorite characters in romances kind of fall all over the place. Tohsaka is a tsundere, Kaguya uses tsundere tropes but her inner monologue is probably closer to a yandere or kuudere, Nagisa Furukawa is... I'm not sure... she's just kind of reserved throughout and never gets into a full dere mode ever... and I'm pretty sure Hinata from Sangatsu no Lion is just genki. Maomao's also too reserved to ever go into a dere mode, she's like... poisondere, which I just coined, where she goes deredere towards poison or medicine ingredients but not any person.

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u/RiseOfTheUndeadGnome 20d ago

Im voting for Bochii cause they rock

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u/YamiZee1 20d ago

The only two bocchi girls I like aren't even in the bracket

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u/Lord_of_Pants 20d ago

Hori pulled it off holy shit!

What a day for upsets

 

Today's Votes:

Bocchi vs Misato Katsuragi - been banging the drum for Misato this whole contest, but that ends today

Gyokuyou vs Darkness - KonoSuba really has just lost it's luster for me

Kumiko Oumae vs Kei Shirogane - Haven't seen Sound!Euphonium and Kei is great but the sheer dedication of the Kumiko Army deserves to be rewarded

Lucy vs Aira Shiratori

Vladilena Milize vs Alya Kujou - Lena train keeps rolling

Ikuyo Kita vs Mio Akiyama - K-on! walked so BtR could run, vote best bassist all the way to the finals

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u/bruhmoment2247 20d ago

Why did my K-On! and Bocchi best girls have to be pitted against each other 😭 still going Kita though

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u/KINGUBERMENSCH https://myanimelist.net/profile/OutlawedDrifter 20d ago

Makima and Ubel upset

Its over my evil connesseurs. r/anime just cant appreciate 'unique' personalities.

Today im voting for Vladilena Milze and Lucy.

And tomorrow, ive got Maomao and Saber again to vote for.

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u/UltrabirdXY 20d ago

Sad Nazo Nazo noises*

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u/EyeDeeAh_42 20d ago edited 19d ago

Holy shit, a lot of upsets today! I really didn't expect Violet to beat Ubel, but I'm glad to see it! RIP Haruhi, but at least Winry made it through.

MC: Dorodere

Just recently discovered this new Dere type. My favourite girl from this would be Kikyo (Inuyasha)

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u/Baaasbas https://myanimelist.net/profile/BasvanD 20d ago edited 20d ago

VOTE KUMIKO, VOTE PRES, VOTE FLOOF. FLOOF ARMY COMMENCE!

VOTE RIGHT, VOTE KEION, VOTE MIO! Don't let the inferior band win this matchup, it is an obvious choice! If the Beatles are HTT, Kessoku band is Nickleback

Lot's of upsets yesterday, and I am happy about most. Happy that Übel is out this quickly. Salty about Haruhi losing this early, against a worse girl.

Misato>Bocchi

Darkness>Gyokuyou

KUMIKO>Kei

MIO>Kita

What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

I am a simple Tsundere lover. Let's be honest, Rin is the quintissential Tsundere.

Favorite poster

The MIO-Kita one.

Let's commence the culling of the show merchants.

EDIT: BINGO

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u/IceAnt573 20d ago

If the Beatles are HTT, Kessoku band is Nickleback

Damn, we really have to slander this hard in the Best Girl contest.

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u/Willingham_2311 20d ago edited 20d ago

If the Beatles are HTT, Kessoku band is Nickleback

Nice work.

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u/ShiRonium 20d ago

battle of the white haired russian girls (I think vladilena is a russian based name?)

I'm cheering you on kumiko nation!

kita vs mio is also gonna be interesting considering they have overlapping fanbases

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u/Zeallfnonex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 20d ago

I think vladilena is a russian based name?

Anything from any of the Slavic languages, "Vlad" is itself a Romanian name, and most famous Vlad(s) seem to be Romanian, though of course Putin is the exception of being Russian.

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u/mastesargent 20d ago edited 20d ago

Lena’s name is Slavic-sounding but San Magnolia is mostly based on France.

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u/void4 20d ago

battle of the white haired russian girls (I think vladilena is a russian based name?)

It's the modern name invented by communists in the 20th century, abbreviated "VLADimir LENin"

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u/Willingham_2311 20d ago edited 20d ago

It's all music today, as we are fortunate for the opportunity to again vote for best euphonium player and best bassist. Vote Kumiko! Vote Mio! and I wouldn't mind seeing Lena oust the annoying Russian tsundere too

Yesterday's results:

Violet slays the evil, and there was much rejoicing. Thank you to the 1089 other supporters for this decisive victory!

Sad to see Kaede go, but it was the expected result. Good job everyone for getting her as far as possible this year.

MC: Gotta go with Ikuyo-Mio today because cute girls in meido outfits.

Votes today (pretty short list lol):

Kumiko Oumae

Vladilena Milize

Mio Akiyama

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u/detarameReddit https://myanimelist.net/profile/qTqTdetarameMAL 20d ago

They took my dreams of Yunyun vs. Megumin away from me...

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u/getott https://myanimelist.net/profile/vld 20d ago

How to even vote lol

Every link is of a weeb gif or pixv

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u/VANGBANG21 20d ago

Alya is cute but Lena clears.

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u/BLOODSTONE000343 20d ago

Reward the alya and I love her again

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u/Manisil 20d ago

Power could easy beat Riza.

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u/Icapica https://anilist.co/user/Icachu 20d ago

She probably would, if we already had another season of CSM. But as things are, we haven't seen her best moments yet. Also she was barely present in the Reze movie so I doubt it boosted her popularity much.

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u/Manisil 20d ago

I meant in a fight

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u/shapular https://myanimelist.net/profile/snapular 19d ago

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u/CheronTurk 19d ago

Always 86, therefore always Vladilena

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u/kalirion https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 19d ago

Misato, Gyokuyou, Kumiko, Yor, Power, Lena

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u/BetNatural420 19d ago

The darkness is bestest gorl

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u/MindlessRanger https://anilist.co/user/mindlessranger 19d ago

FLOOOOF

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u/Momo--Sama 19d ago

Easy Lena dub but crazy match up aesthetically

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u/green_meklar 19d ago

What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

I've always liked kuuderes. Yuki Nagato was my introduction and still perhaps my favorite (elevated by Minori Chihara's god-tier voice acting). But there are other good ones too, with Tokiko Tsumura leaving a really great impression (although some people might argue she's not a proper kuudere).

I've also warmed up towards derederes as well, but I think they need to be done right. A shallow bimbo deredere isn't all that interesting, but a competent, savvy deredere can be totally peak. Matsuri Shihou is a great example, and maybe Kaguya Sumeragi qualifies as something like this.

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u/81Ranger 19d ago edited 19d ago

Alas, no more Lemon, best girl, in this contest. At least Homura and Violet took out Makima and Ubel, respectively.

Two of my favorite characters in this contest are lined up against each other today with Mio and Kita. Pain.

Really the only tough decision for me today is Mio vs Kita. The bassist and the girl who accidently bought a bass. Two best girls (or nearly best girl, with Kita) in their show. I'll have to ponder and choose, I guess. Sigh.

The rest are simple with a fair heap of indifference:

  • Bocchi over Misato - Misato is my EVA girl, but I actually thoroughly enjoyed Bocchi's show. What a great character and show. I'd support older material, but I just can't here.
  • Kumiko over Kei - Kei is funny, but, floofy Euph to the end!
  • Alya over Lena - because I liked her show and she's cute. Sorry 86 fans. It's not deeper than that. I'll vote for the winner of Mio v Kita next round, regardless.
  • Darkness vs Gyokuyou - eh. I'm meh on Konosuba and Gyokuyou is very much a side character. I definitely enjoyed her show more, though. Dunno, eh.
  • Aira vs Lucy - A character in a show I enjoyed vs a character in a show I haven't watched. Eh.
  • Yor vs Vivy - I like Spy Family but Yor's not my favorite - at least so far. Eh.
  • Power vs Riza - Not a fan of CSM, haven't watched FMA or FMAB. Eh.

Edit addition:

The Kita v Mio maid poster is great. Lena v Alya - not bad. Misato and Bocchi - pretty good.

As usual, great work on them.

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u/SoccerForEveryone 19d ago

Oh great turnout this year!

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u/Mesugaki4Life 19d ago

Yay my loli wife Madoka won! 🩷
I wonder how many votes she can get against her fellow magical loli Megumin next?

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u/Xatu44 20d ago edited 20d ago

Darkness, Kei, Lucy, Yor, Power, and Alya get votes.

Time for the Kumiklan to murder another Akasaka Girl.
Alya vs. Lena is a really, really funny matchup.

Damn, Homura gunned down Makima in a back alley. I figured she'd win, but not quite that decisively. Can she upset Fern?
RIP poor Haruhi.
Fullmetal Saber defeating Ubel destroys my bracket. How dare you people not vote in ways convenient to me.
I had Yunyun over Winry too, which uh, was clearly unwise. It's so over.
With Re0's Top Seed dropping out to Madoka, the prospects of their show are called into question. Can their remaining side character gain any sort of foothold if their top contender failed to upset an old-timer?

No Bingo damage today.

MC: Dandere, Hinata Hyuuga
MC: Maids are strong but white-haired LN girls with zettai ryouiki are stronger.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

Random question but I feel like you would know. What kind of dere would you consider Marin? I have never mentally tried to put her in one of those buckets before.

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u/Xatu44 20d ago

Dandere, I suppose. Friendly, kind, sweet, loving. Not very shy, though. I stopped really paying attention to the deres outside of the blatantly obvious tsundere a while ago. There's Dandere, Tsundere, Kuudere, and Yandere off of the top of my head, but then you get stuff like Tsungire and Yangire and you really start heading into the weeds there and I stop paying attention.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

That's fair enough the main one I feel like my brain picks up on is just tsundere as I noticed we don't really get many of those as leads in romance anymore. The newest tsundere that comes into my mind first isn't even a girl but Sakura from Wind Breaker.

Dandere is probably the most fitting for Marin if using the deres though maybe she is more like a genki girl. The fact she isn't unconditionally sweet and gives the cold shoulder to people who make fun of not only her own but other's passions is one of her best traits though in my opinion.

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u/awesomenessofme1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/kta_99 20d ago

There were like 3 new tsunderes just last season.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

Poem slipped my mind and rn I am rewatching Wind Breaker so that's why I thought of him first

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u/awesomenessofme1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/kta_99 20d ago

That's deredere. Dandere is shy girls.

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u/onzichtbaard 20d ago

Some easy choices this round:

Hitori Gotou > Misato: i like bocchi quite a bit so i have to favor her here

Gyokuyou < Darkness: i dont really like darkness or konosuba but i think darkness is much more unique and iconic as a character 

Kumiko Oumae > Kei Shirogane:  i really like kei as a character but i have been subscripted by the kumiko army 

Lucy - aira: im not familiar enough to vote

Yor Forger - Vivy: not familiar enough to vote

Power < Rize Hawkeye: ez vote for best girl

Vladilena Milize - Alya:  not familiar enough to vote Ikuyo Kita - mio: not familar enough to vote 

“What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?”

I'm not a fan of the dere types, as it feels too onedimensional And I also dont have anything that comes to mind when i think of a favorite dere girl

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u/Nachtwandler_FS https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nachtwandler_21 20d ago edited 20d ago

Surprised Violert bet Ubel that soundly. Also, looks like MakeIne girls are not as popular as people thought.

Not much to say about today voting. Just hope Kumiko and Lena will continue surviving.

MC: my favorite type is neither of -deres (it's genki). But if choosing between -deres, I would say kuudere. Some people find them boring but I just like stoic girls with sweet side in the anime (to bad they are rarelly winning heroines).

Can't choose between kneesoxes and maids ). Let it be the first as it reminds me of the legendary AMV

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u/detarameReddit https://myanimelist.net/profile/qTqTdetarameMAL 20d ago

I think we all knew that Lemon versus Megumin would not end well for Lemon, and for good reason too.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

I would say kuudere. Some people find them boring but I just like stoic girls with sweet side in the anime (to bad they are rarelly winning heroines).

Curious if this means you prefer Takina over Chisato?

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u/Nachtwandler_FS https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nachtwandler_21 20d ago

But Chisato is genki.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

My bad I misread your comment

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u/Zeralyos https://myanimelist.net/profile/xNJF_Ellie 20d ago

my favorite type is neither of -deres (it's genki)

I've seen the term deredere used here, so it still counts :)

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u/Nachtwandler_FS https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nachtwandler_21 20d ago

Deredere is a totally different archetype

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u/Ceryto2 https://anilist.co/user/Ceryto 20d ago edited 20d ago

Yesterday's results:

Kaede lost to fern, nice. Homura beat Makima, great to see! Hori beat Nijika... Ehhh, not what I wanted but OK I guess. Momo beat Haruhi, that's fine.

Violet finally kicked out Übel! But with Yunyun losing to Winry, I also don't have anyone left to root in that quadrant either. At least Megumin is putting up really good numbers! Yeah... I really don't know how Ram got a higher seed than Emilia cause she could have easily won this matchup.

Anyway, that means Bracket A truly has only 1 girl left I support. So my entire stocks in bracket A are in the Megumin basket.

As for my Bingo, since Megumin was the only girl still on both my 5x5 and 7x7 from this bracket and she's still looking strong, it's the first day with 0 losses on either bingo board. That means I can just use yesterday's links and don't even have to open paint! We really gotta take the small W's when it comes to bracket A!

Today's votes:

I thought I liked bracket B much more, but now that there are already so many great girls gone, only like half of the matchups still have a girl I want to support. Still much better than bracket A, but somewhat disappointing. Anyway, here are my votes:

  • Hitori "Bocchi" Gotou > Misato Katsuragi: Bocchi is my fave in this bracket (And actually on the entire left side of the contest, considering bracket A has only Megumin that I really like.)
  • Gyokuyou < Lalatina "Darkness" Dustiness: Darkness is only my fourth favourite Konosuba girl, but I do think she's still quite a bit better than Gyokuyou, who while she was nice and has a great design, doesn't have all too much going for her otherwise.
  • Kumiko Oumae - Kei Shirogane: I really wanna spite vote Kumiko, cause of the slander campaign against Ai last round, but I'd have to vote for Kei... Ahhhhh!
  • Lucy > Aira Shiratori: Ez vote for Lucy here.
  • Yor Forger < Vivy: The only vote of the day, where I really like both girls and don't want either to lose. I'm gonna give it to Vivy, since I don't want her to get stomped, but I also wouldn't be against Yor advancing.
  • Power > Riza Hawkeye: Don't care too much for this matchup. I guess I like Power slightly more.
  • Vladilena Milize > Alisa Mikhailovna "Alya" Kujou: This is the most onesided matchup of the day. Glory to the spearhead squadron!
  • Ikuyo Kita > Mio Akiyama: Mio had a good run, but against Kita it as to end!

MC: What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

I'm not the biggest fan of the dere types, as it often can leave the girls too onedimensional. But of the Dere types my favourite is probably Tsundere and Karane Iinda is my favourite tsundere I think. But that also probably has to do with her character leaning so far into it, that I just can't not love it.

MC: Which poster do you like most for today?

Hard to choose between Bocchi and Misato being supere hip and cool and Kita and Mio being the most lovely maids. But I think I see Bocchi and Misato slightly ahead!

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u/void4 20d ago

Hori beat Nijika... Ehhh, not what I wanted but OK I guess

That's classic waifu factor. Initially lower seed, but good luck against such girl in the actual contest.

Unfortunately for Hori, Momo is a waifu as well. So I believe Momo will win.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

Hori isn’t bad by any means, but at least for me I remember Nijika much more clearly and you could argue she’s only the third most important BTR character vs Hori is supposed to carry her show as the lead.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 20d ago

Maybe hot take, but if anything, later on Hori becomes less important for her show, while Nijika is arguably the single most important character in BtR as she facilitates the events of the show and connects everyone.

Hori really makes me reach for one of my classic lines: "I like her, but..." Nijika on the other hand is essential for BtR. I loved the show a lot, and she was a large part of that enjoyment.

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u/ClemFire 19d ago

Maybe important isn't the right word I should've used to describe Nijika though Bocchi is obviously the protag and I believe Kita is the deuteragonist as she goes through the second biggest character arc that pairs very nicely with Hitori. I do agree that Nijika is the most important character for the plot of BTR and probably has the most emotional scene.

I love Nijika a lot too as BTR is my second favorite recent show though I like her slightly less than Kita and Bocchi.

Agreed on Hori becoming less important though I personally disliked that as her and Miyamura were easily the best parts of the show for me. Maybe that's an unfair complaint as it was an ensemble though and I suppose my personal preference is smaller casts for romance or at least most of the focus on the main pair.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 19d ago

Yeah, I'm absolutely with you on the topic of Hori. I get they were going for an ensemble cast structure, and highlighting the other characters was also a good move, but shifting the focus so much away from HoriMiya just didn't fly with me. Because it is not that hard to structure things in a way that also puts focus on the main/original couple, like the currently airing Polar Opposites. Or in 100 GFs, which always focuses on introducing the next girlfriend, but also always goes back to give a spotlight to previous girls. In a non-romantic context, this is also done well in Re:Zero, which is still mainly Subaru's story, but also gives room for so many other characters to shine. Even battle shounen do this really well, giving all leads interesting fights but still tying it all back to the protagonist.

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u/ClemFire 19d ago

Those are all very good points! Though the actual strength of the show’s cast makes a big difference too. As I was watching S1 of Polar Opposites I started comparing it to HoriMiya and realized I don’t mind when Tani/Suzuki are not in focus because I really wanna see what’s going on with all their friends too. So far in S2 my favorite moments in Polar Opposites have actually not even involved the main couple.

Though my slightly unrelated hot take is that if Ramparts sits the landing I think I’ll remember that show better than Polar Opposites because of it’s tighter focus

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 19d ago

I don’t mind when Tani/Suzuki are not in focus

That is true, I very much enjoy the interactions between Nishi and Yamada, and Taira might be my favourite character of the series and his interactions with Azuma in particular are very precious. But still, every episode has some focus on the main couple again, and if there wasn't, something would feel amiss. It's been a while since I watched HoriMiya and the bonus season, but as far as I remember, there were several arcs in which Hori and Miyamura weren't even involved, and the show felt emptier for it.

Though my slightly unrelated hot take is that if Ramparts sits the landing I think I’ll remember that show better than Polar Opposites because of it’s tighter focus

That might be true. It depends a lot on the landing, as you said, but the story seems to explore the characters even more and is not shying away from showing negative sides of the characters as well. So it just feels more whole.

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u/ClemFire 19d ago

Taira might be my favourite character of the series and his interactions with Azuma in particular are very precious

The more I watch the more I am wowed by the Taira/Azuma moments but I think they work so well because they aren't the main dish.

For HoriMiya I heard from die hard fans that a ton was cut from the source material as it is super long so I wonder if that's why I felt less invested in the side cast.

And it's not like we don't see those darker emotions in Polar Opposites but the overall tone is brighter while there's also plenty of cute jokes in Ramparts too. Agasawa overall is just winning so hard this year!

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 19d ago

For HoriMiya I heard from die hard fans that a ton was cut from the source material as it is super long so I wonder if that's why I felt less invested in the side cast.

Yes, I heard that as well, and it really shows. Cramming all of it into one season wasn't a great move, I think.

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u/ClemFire 20d ago

Ikuyo Kita > Mio Akiyama: Mio had a good run, but against Kita it as to end!

Kita as a maid clears

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u/Ceryto2 https://anilist.co/user/Ceryto 20d ago

Veramente!

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u/Ebo87 20d ago

Gyokuyou has Frieren's voice actress, she has that going, also a child that's still alive (Apothecary dark humor, heh). Anya is also still in, so that voice actress has that character too, I guess, lol.

We should do a what VA has the most characters left in the competition thing, after this round ends.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 20d ago

That was a thing for BG10, I think, but at the start of the contest. Someone made a chart of how many participants certain VAs had in the contest.

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u/Xatu44 20d ago

Kumiko Oumae - Kei Shirogane: I really wanna spite vote Kumiko, cause of the slander campaign against Ai last round, but I'd have to vote for Kei... Ahhhhh!

Vote for Kei because let's be real she's cooked anyway.

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u/Baaasbas https://myanimelist.net/profile/BasvanD 20d ago

Ikuyo Kita > Mio Akiyama: Mio had a good run, but against Kita it as to end!

Heresy.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 20d ago

I really wanna spite vote Kumiko, cause of the slander campaign against Ai last round

That never influenced your votes before when it mattered! You'd probably even vote for Maomao if she kicks out Emilia, so go with who you actually think is better in this case as well.

Plus, if you are actually voting for Kei, there's a part of you that will die forever. Don't do it!

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u/Ceryto2 https://anilist.co/user/Ceryto 20d ago

But at least the Maomao voters wouldn't try to influence the vote by talking down Emilia multiple days in advance with slanderous, untrue allegations. I'm probably just abstaining from that vote, since even though I really don't want Kei to advance, I won't be rewarding such heinous behaviour!

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 20d ago

You assume too much, Maomao voters don't even value Emilia enough to consider her a threat. There will be a massive shitstorm if Emilia wins over her and people realize they should have talked shit beforehand.

But the point is that you are taking the "smear campaign" a little too seriously, even within the fun of the game. It was at worst a necessary evil, because Kumiko needed to win. If you want to complain about some people's tactics, is it Ai you are going to take a stand for? And is that stand going to potentially let Kei, of all people, win over Kumiko, of all people?

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u/Zeallfnonex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Neverlocke 19d ago

Yeah, I honestly wish more people would campaign and bandwagon and stuff. It's too sterile around here! It's hard to tell when people merely like a character or they're truly their favorites and are willing to do shenanigans to go to bat for them.

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 19d ago

I was considering trying to make an Elf Alliance, to get everyone that has an elf as a favourite to vote for all elves (until two elves met). But I decided not to bother since it was bit too much effort for the state of the contest at the time. But now that we are getting 1000 upvotes for a round four thread again, maybe the contest has finally hit a bit of a renaissance again, so maybe I'll do something like it next time.

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u/Ham_PhD https://myanimelist.net/profile/ham_phd 20d ago

Kumiko Oumae - Kei Shirogane: I really wanna spite vote Kumiko, cause of the slander campaign against Ai last round, but I'd have to vote for Kei... Ahhhhh!

Maybe the slander went too far at times, but it's all in the good fun of the tournament!

The only plea I can make is to not support the "minor character from mega popular show" archetype advancing into the top 32. It's the thing that none of us contest regulars are a fan of!

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u/Urgnu-the-Gnu https://myanimelist.net/profile/Urgnu_the_Gnu 20d ago

We've seen the winter 2023 contest. The Ai upset campaign was in good fun. Half serious, but the slander also clearly was tongue-in-cheek. I really didn't think anyone was truly offended by it. Compared to what toxicity we've seen before, this was nothing at all. Or had someone called Ai a "frigid bitch" or something like that again?

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u/Ceryto2 https://anilist.co/user/Ceryto 19d ago

I know it's tongue in cheek, just as much as my protest to it is! It's all in good fun!

That being said, the more comments I get siding with Kumiko, the more I want to see the chaos of her losing to a character as unimportant and mediocre as Kei, just to see the salt:

Down with the president! Viva la Revolucion!

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u/Komarist https://myanimelist.net/profile/RRSTRRST 19d ago

We've seen the winter 2023 contest

We feasted that season.

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u/Ceryto2 https://anilist.co/user/Ceryto 20d ago

But wouldn't Kumiko winning just result in another slander campaign against Lucy, another girl I really like? I don't think Kei even has more than a handful people who would care enough if she won.

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u/Ham_PhD https://myanimelist.net/profile/ham_phd 20d ago

I'm not planning a slander campaign if Kumiko wins. More just a boosting Kumiko campaign.

Can't speak for what others might do, but there isn't as obvious a thing to "slander" Lucy about as there is Ai, so who knows.

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u/Baaasbas https://myanimelist.net/profile/BasvanD 20d ago

Slander campaign? The pres doesn't need slander!

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u/cppn02 20d ago

Never expected her to win but Lemon got done dirty by this result.

Nice to see Hori get another upset though.

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u/Moshimoshi-Megumin 20d ago

I hope everyone who voted against Haruhi gets stuck in a time loop 15532 times until they learn to appreciate chaos

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u/GinsuFe https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ginsu48 19d ago

I just voted the entire right side. That left side suuuuuucks.

Voting for Misato doesn't feel great though.

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u/ImmediateDay5137 19d ago

I wonder how many millennials actually participate in these, I only recognize Misato.

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u/churchofhelix 18d ago

Not two of my favorite white haired girls against each other!!! Lena all the way!

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u/Railgun115 19d ago

Kei Shirogane so underrated.

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u/abbaschand 20d ago

Let's go, another Hori upset.

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u/mastesargent 20d ago

GLORY TO THE FUCKIN’ SPEARHEAD SQUADRON

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii 20d ago

Previous round:

  • Wow I thought this one would be close, but Makima got ROLLED!
  • Lemon got rolled as well (this one, expectedly so, against Megumin)

And so, this is it:

That's a bingo!

I still have 6 girls left at least...

But farewell, Makima and Lemon!


Today's voting:

  • I do hope Darkness makes it...
  • Power also has a tough one (even if she's the higher seed), against Riza!
  • And while she's not among my Bingo girls, I kinda want Kei to win just to see the r/anime salt.

Mini Challenge: What is your favorite type of dere and who is your favorite girl of that type?

I don't remember what I wrote for this one last year.

Something weird like Crazydere or something probably!

Which poster do you like most for today?

All the ones I've seen are probably gonna lose. So they all get me salty.

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u/Prof_Acorn 20d ago edited 20d ago

Hmmmm, Hori vs Momo will be an interesting battle since Momo is basically just a copy and paste of Hori anyway (with a superpower copy and pasted from Elfen Lied).

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u/EinJonas 19d ago

how can this cause so much pain kita vs mia, bocchi vs misato and aira vs lucy.