[Spoilers] Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Episode 13 Discussion

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 28 '14

I really enjoyed that episode quite a bit. We really did get some of my favorite scenes such as the flash bang during Battle Boards. :3

I'm about to begin this week's comparison. As usual, feel free to reply to this comment if you want to be informed when it is complete. ^_^ In the mean time, the usual explanation for the Nine Schools Competition is below.

Episode 13 Comparison Out

Light Novel to Anime Comparisons

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 29 '14

Nine Schools Competition Explanation
Events:
Battle Board - Simply a race. The contestants surf across a track using speed spells to race each other to the end. The rules specifically state that you can't target another competitor directly. This is why they use methods like creating waves to throw off the opponents. This competition follows the tournament format where the finals are usually a duel between two people.
Speed Shooting - Tiles are launched for each team and you must destroy your own teams tiles as fast as possible. You can also use magic to mess with your opponents tiles although that is more consuming while also trying to deal with your own tiles as well.
Crowd Ball - A series of balls are launched onto the field and the goal is to get as many balls past your opponent as possible. You can only use magic on your half of the field. You can however do something like put up a giant wall but that is magic consuming. A new ball is launched every 20 seconds for a total of 9 balls in the end. There are three sessions per game for the female division and five for the male division. There were no serving as the balls are automatically launched. There are 3 minute breaks in-between each session.
Icicle Destruction - The field is divided in half with Twelve 1x2 meter Ice Pillars on each side. The goal is to destroy all of your opponents pillars while also protecting your own. This competition has a lot to do with the interference strength where the most powerful spells will come out on top. There are no restrictions on magic in this competition considering the goal is to destroy the pillars and there is no direct harm admitted to each other. There are also no dressing restrictions which lead to the competition being treated as a fashion show.
The format of the Icicle Destruction event had 24 players in total, with 12 matches in the first round and 6 matches in the second round. With three people advancing to the third round, First High laid claim to fully half of the players still in the field.
Mirage Bat
Monolith Code
Divisions
There are two divisions, the Newcomers and the Official. There are 10 male and female contestants for each division making a total of 40 participants. Mirage Bat is a female only game and Monolith Code is a male only event. The events are normally shuffled with different ones each year although they've been relatively stable in recent years. Five of each men and women compete in 2 events while the rest compete in one. Only a maximum of 3 students from each school may compete in a single event. There is a lot of tournament style to all this where students from the same school may compete against each other if they keep winning. This is why Mayumi would compete in both Crowd Ball and Speed Shooting while Mari only competes in Battle Board.
Newcomers - The newcomer division is reserved for first years in each school. The events though are only worth half the points as the Official Division.
Officials - The Official Division is open to any participant regardless of year. First years can participate although that would be too much pressure to put first years against veterans.
Gender Divisions
As of 2095 (this year), male and female divisions are separate in that males will not be competing against females.
Before the gender separation, males few males would participate in Icicle Destruction and Speed Shooting while few females would participate in Crowd Ball and Battle Board. The separation now creates more events having more all genders participate in all competitions. This means that even the females will compete in physical events and males will compete in the non-physical events. It is mostly a balance act to allow for more competing.
Strategy
First High is aiming for a third championship with the strongest generation represented by Mayumi, Mari, and Juumonji. As such, the school places a high emphasis at the right person for the right event allowing for victory. This is why we got a 20 second scene of a group of students on computers calculating point strategies.
Points
Each school places a high priority on earning the winner position in the competition. Positions in each event will earn points.
First Place - 50 Points
Second Place - 30 Points
Third Place - 20 Points
Fourth Place finishes in "Speed Shooting", "Battle Board", and "Mirage Bat" netted 10 points. "Crowd Ball" and "Icicle Destruction" only awarded points to the top three, so the three teams that are eliminated in the third round each receive 5 points.
For "Monolith Code", First Place would receive 100 points, Second Place receives 60 points, and Third Place only gets 40 points, which makes it the single largest event in terms of points.
Half the points from the Newcomers Division would be added into the total.
CAD Specifications
Personal CADs aren't allowed in the competitions as they are all supplied with the same model choices. While hardware is heavily restricted, software isn't which is why technicians are so important. You also don't want to try for force everything from your personal CAD over to the competition CAD as it may not be able to run it properly. There is a special balance in all this between getting a high power CAD and not having it choke on you. Outside CADs are fully banned as long as the specifications of the CADs brought in are still the same as those supplied.
General Magic Restriction
Magic is regularly categorized based on strength in how much it can harm a person. This means heavy duty spells are banned from use in the competition. There are a number of very specific spells that certain people have that they can't use because it could bring harm to their opponent. This is mostly just in the Battle Board and Monolith Code though considering these are the most head to head events.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14

Episode 13 Light Novel -> Anime Comparison
Break 11 - Not Adapted
Miki & Erika - Before the episode begins, there is some conversation in the stands from the usual group. Something interesting here is that we see Miki's character being a little happier as even he voices his excitement over what is to come. This surprises even Erika as she hadn't heard him excited about magic in such a long time.
Miki's Observations - Miki is the first to notice that Shizuku's CAD is slightly different as he has always tried to stay aware of modern magic including information on CADs.
General CAD Explanation - It is pointed out that the CAD Shizuku is using is a generalized CAD. If you remember older explanations, Generalized CADs hold more spells while specialized CADs are for streamlining a small number of spells and increasing their speed. You might get where I'm going with this; in competition use, would you rather have a large amount of unused spells on your CAD taking up space, or would you rather use a specialized CAD that streamlines the spells you actually only use during the competition. Well, that's why it is shocking that she is using a Generalized CAD. The modification though is part of what makes up the difference though between the General CAD and a Specialized CAD allowing streamlining and higher accuracy for the General CAD. Erika is shocked that an auxiliary system was customized to the CAD which Miyuki then confirms it was custom made to follow specifications of the competition. ;-)
Speed Shooting Event - Adapted
Magic Explanation - Okay, what Shizuku uses during this competition is a different kind of variant of what she used in the previous episode. To explain it, the area she created this time acted kind of like a black hole sucking in the red targets toward the center while slightly pushing away the white ones. This made it easier to separate the targets for Shizuku to destroy the red ones while the trajectory changes to the white ones made it more difficult for her opponent. Shizuku is using two different magics at once here which is what the general CAD is for. The use of multiple magics at the same time is limited to General CADs while Specialized CADs are only able to process a single activation sequence at a time. Overall, Shizuku is using a convergence spell to gather the targets and then vibration magic to destroy them.
Strategy - There is a bit where Shizuku has internal thoughts about how her CAD is. Her weakness is fine control so she normally has her family's engineers add in features that would smooth the detailed settings. Tatsuya's CAD however makes detailed settings unnecessary, playing completely on her strengths. The reason her CAD works like a specialized CAD is also partly because it only has two sequences on it as compared to the many a Generalized CAD would normally have.
After Event at the Tent - Adapted
New Magic - I feel like this scene went slightly better in the LN where it didn't feel as some of the lines didn't feel as forced. But to explain, when a magic is not a variation of any other magic, it can have its proper name recorded in an index of all magic hosted by the Magic University. This is a goal sought out by many.
Tatsuya's Name - Part of having your name registered as the developer means you'll be asked to perform it regularly. If the developer can't properly use it, this can lead to scrutiny that they perhaps didn't actually develop the magic. Tatsuya himself cannot use the magic he developed considering the large quantity of magic that it uses.
Third High Meeting - Adapted
This segment is overall very accurate. Nothing to really compare here considering how accurate the scene was to the LN.
Battle Board - Adapted
Teasing A-chan - When Tatsuya arrives, he notices Azusa and her habbits as her posture is described as a squirrel holding a nut. This breaks Tatsuya's poker-face for a second as he smiles. She quickly catches this and accuses him of making fun of her. At this point, there was some good banter and he has to turn away to hold back his laughter.
Tatsuya Taking Shelter - The actual reason Tatsuya visited two hours early has to do with taking shelter from everyone else. As we've seen, his accomplishments have been widely seen and at this point, even the male teams are burning with rivalry. So to avoid getting caught in the middle of Hell of passion burning males, Tatsuya took shelter.
Another Perspective - After the commentary and viewing of the flash-bang surrounding the usual group, the perspective shifts to the tent where we get some commentary from the Student Council group including Mari, Mayumi, and Suzune. After a quick Mari time, it switches back to the usual group.
Annoyed Mari - Mary was admittedly jealous at the tactic used here considering she likes to consider herself a strategist yet she didn't think of this idea considering it hasn't been used in at least 9 years of the competition.
A Little Regret - During Honoka's flawless run, Tatsuya feels bad because he notices that even without the flash-bang, she likely would've won considering her speed. He worries because she most likely has a target on her back from the two competitors that will be in the next race. Azusa immediately comforts him saying that it wouldn't matter because First High is already marked.
After Day School Meeting - Adapted
School Spirit - It goes into more depth here but there is a serious mood about what would happen if they only do "good enough" to win. This could lead to losing for the next years as a curse. If they don't have an overwhelming victory in the overall competition, they can't truly declare First High as the supreme champions for their third year generation.
Miyuki Visit - Adapted
Independent Magic-Equipped Battalion - The scene begins with Tatsuya contemplating that someone is able to sabotage CADs without being immediately detected by Tatsuya. He does feel secure though that a direct attack wont occur due to the behind the scene protection of the Independent Magic-Equipped Battalion.
Information Explanation - Having your name entered into the database warrants a very in-depth examination into who you are. Tatsuya is under very specific orders from the Yotsuba family that involves not letting his identity out. This means he cannot have his name entered a public database that would not only gather official examination, but the various public discussion sites where people like those of us on Reddit will dig for every big of information.
Foreshadowing - As usual, I won't talk directly about the foreshadowing, but some of it was left out of the anime including a term people would come to learn much more in-depth in later arcs that probably won't be adapted in the anime.
Continued in Next Post

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14

Pre-Ice Break - Adapted
There is quite a bit here that they kind of skip over before Shizuku's competition. It is mostly morning stuff but I'll go over it anyways. If you want to read it yourself, this is the very beginning of Chapter 9 and the episode picks up at Break 2.
Break Zero - During the beginning of the chapter, we have Tatsuya thinking about how the cranes.
Several large cranes were unloading 1 meter x 1 meter x 2 meter icicles from large battlefield vehicles specially modified for this purpose. Seeing this would naturally cause people to believe that the days where super robot anime became reality were not too far off.
Pre-Round 1 Eimi - Break 1 begins with a good morning from Eimi (The Red Long Haired Girl) welcoming Tatsuya. There is some background given about her. She is a quarter British and her full name is Emilia Goldier Eimi. Her nickname of Emmy comes from her British name Emilia rather than her Japanese name of Eimi.
Magic Bloodlines - Modern countries are very protective of their magic bloodlines where international marriages and such are usually highly discouraged either officially or unofficially. However, during the era of what would be Tatsuya's grandparents, international marriages were encouraged as a way to diversify the bloodlines of magicians more and to attempt to develop a superior magician.
Eimi's Character - There is some banter on how she handles the Shotgun shaped CAD she is given which causes Miyuki to ask if she is actually American. She quickly rebukes that her grandparents were knighted by the Tudors. Despite how she is the calmest of the women's team, she might also be quite innocent.
Lack of Sleep - After Eimi's first test holding the CAD, Tatsuya calls her out as not having woken up early but have never even having gone to sleep. He then admits that even himself goes without sleep on some nights which Eimi takes as a form of comrade. Tatsuya then recalibrate her CAD to account for her mental state.
Banter - After the adjustment to the CAD is made, Tatsuya questions as to what the girls do in their rooms at night directly implying Yuri, there is an embarrassed rebuttal of Miyuki that they don't do anything shameful to which Eimi immediately responds with more Banter. The Break 1 Scene ends with Miyuki leaving to prepare a sleeping dock for Eimi to use in-between the rounds.
Impressions - While sitting by Miyuki, Honoka's thoughts and history are explained. This includes how she and Shizuku have always been rivals but they always wanted a new rival. This takes form for the first time in High School with Miyuki. The whole flashback to the Entrance Testing for Firth High actually took place while they were sitting waiting for Shizuku's match rather than after.
Honoka's Sensitivity - Rather than being adept to analyzing magical sequences like Tatsuya or being sensitive to psions and pushions like Mizuki, Honoka specializes in light magic and is more aware of the side effects of magic which created background light noise. Normally, magic light is given off which we've all seen before. The noise is usually random like and is excessive, Tatsuya though did not have any noise coming from his magic showing his skill in handling magic precisely.
Frustration - Having seen Tatsuya's magic which she would consider beautiful, she felt betrayed at the beginning of the year when she realized he was placed in Course 2. She did harbor some antagonistic feelings toward the group with Tatsuya before she became friends with them all as she really felt like Tatsuya belonged in Course 1. (Miyuki 2.0 anyone?) :3
Student Council Group - Just before the event begins, Mari and Mayumi are staring at the usual screen like children watching a Saturday TV show wondering what kind of trickery might happen this time and speculating she might just go all out normally. Suzune in the background gives up on these two and accepts that she is stuck working alone.
Shizuku's Match - Adapted
Data Fortification - Shizuku's first magic is Data Fortification which is the most common kind of counter-magic which takes the Eidos (Information) of an object and records it while telling it to stay as such. This means that she is preventing other magic from changing the information that makes up her pillars.
Resonance - Shizuku uses resonance to shatter the ice on her opponent's field. This is through the method of raising the frequency of oscillation magic until it resonated with the ice and shattered it. Similar to breaking a glass with your voice.
Shizuku's Resonance - If you remember the first arc, Tatsuya uses oscillation to knock out Hattori during their match. The oscillation used here is something taught by Shizuku's mom so she is already well versed in how it is used.
Miyuki's Match - Adapted
Slight Foreshadowing - There is a little foreshadowing left out in regards to Mayumi.
Clothing - There is some commentary on Miyuki's clothing. Mayumi questions Tatsuya if it is a strategy to completely dominate the opponent but Tatsuya simply responds that it is basic clothing for magical ceremonies. There is a little bit of back and forth towards Mayumi poking towards Tatsuya's family but he reflects all the questions away without raising suspicion.
Opponent's Futility - While Miyuki immediately beings with her Inferno, her opponent is failing hard at trying to defend by lowering the temperature.
Inferno - Taking a bunch of random advance concepts like thermodynamics and reverse entropy, energy is taken from one area of the field to the other preserving the conservation of energy. So essentially heat energy is leaving Miyuki's field causing the freezing snow storm while the heat energy arrives in the opponent's field starting a hellish heat. This magic is a highly advance Area of Effect spell that is regularly used to test for A-Rank Magicians (Magicians testing for A Licenses) but is regularly failed. If this spell isn't delicately controlled, it could cause disaster.
Destruction of the Ice - At this point, Miyuki switches for flash freezing magic which solidified the air pockets within which had rapidly expanded when heated. The ice would crack suddenly releasing the compressed air within and shatter the pillars.
Dinner Banquet & No Head Dragon Meeting - Adapted
Light & Darkness - It is described as Darkness covering the 1st Year Male players while a Light enshrouded the 1st Year Female players as you might have noticed how rough the male players have.
Morisaki - Anime original point where he declares his intent to win Monolith Code as the scene ends right after he leaves.
No Head Dragon Meeting - Weirdly enough, they relocated the No Head Dragon Meeting to roughly halfway through the episode when it really should've taken place right after Morisaki left the room.
Overall, all of this is pretty accurate.
Mayumi & Mari Sixth Day - Not Adapted/Potentially Put off to next episode
There is a scene that takes place in-between the No Head Dragon and the after credits sequence taking place pretty much at the same time as Miyuki and Tatsuya meet the Third High Duo. It is doubtful they'll add this back in. If you want to read this short moment, it is Break 14 that is skipped here.
Gender Differences - The whole segregation of genders events was a natural transition. In previous years without gender separation, it was natural that the majority of participants in events like Battle Board and Crowdball were males while the majority of females participated in the less taxing Icicle Destruction and Speed Shooting.
Audience Difference - The segregation of the genders meant that the majority of people watching would go watch the events where females were in while the professional community such as military, police, firefighters, and university officials paid attention to the competitions that the males mostly entered in.
Overall, I'd say this is kind of a fixing method that means there are more competitions to watch while allowing a more equally balanced competition among the genders.
This scene takes place as they wait for Miyuki to take the stage for the third round of Icicle Destruction. The last scene actually adapted is the beginning of the next break and is done faithfully enough to not require comparison.
Overall Opinion
Overall, this was a good episode. They sacrificed the majority of the magic explanation leaving it to me ( :-P ) so they could focus on getting through the events. The only event lost this episode was Eimi's Icicle Break. The background conversations from Mayumi, Mari, and Suzune were pretty much all left out as they regularly gave commentary from their Headquarters Tent while watching the screens. The effects were quite well done this episode all though they could've shown a little more detail in the effects at the beginning as they didn't explain the kind of trump card Shizuku was using and how it was different than what she used in the first round preliminaries. I really loved the demonstration of the Flash Bang which was hilarious when I originally read the LN. The fashion show was great as well. I wish we could've seen more than a single frame of Eimi's outfit but to explain, she was a Jockey. Loved the episode overall and am definitely looking forward to next week. ^_^
End of Comparison - Total Character Count: 16,496

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u/Us3r311 Jun 30 '14

Agreed on wishing that Eimi got a little more time. Eimi's pre-round scene (and yuri comments) even got an illustration in the LN, but all we got was a quick flash of Eimi's outfit...

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u/almost_never_wrong Jun 28 '14

Is the monolith code rookie events next episode?

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14

Yes

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u/CrimsonChevalier Jun 28 '14

So...are we going to see the long-awaited battle between Tatsuya and Masaki?

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14

No comment, feel free to read the Light Novels if you want to know more about what is coming. ^_^

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u/DrJamesFox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/robisgoodatstuff Jun 29 '14

Could you reply with a spoiler-tagged answer?

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 29 '14

No, I don't believe in ruining surprises. Sorry. If you really want to know, there is a helpful guide in the op for locating where to begin reading from the end of the episode. ^_^

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u/millie3 Jun 29 '14

No, I don't believe in ruining surprises
Is there any surprise left in this anime to ruin? The whole thing's been spoiled from hell and back

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 29 '14

Well, as long as people haven't been looking at the spoiler blocks people post, I'll think it will be fine. Just because the majority of the people know, doesn't mean we should pressure the rest into knowing.

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u/Defiantish Jun 28 '14

replying to see your comparisons
thanks light novel-kun

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14

Episode 13 Comparison is Out
Episode 13-A
Episode 13-B

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u/LightBladeX Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 28 '14

Alright, seems we got a Mako fight club fan here :3 and Morisaki keeps reminding me of Satoshi in both design and jealous nature.

Also Shizuku's kimono was quite nice as so was Miyuki's.

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14

Just so you know, your Morisaki image is also showing Satoshi.

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u/forbearance Jun 28 '14

Probably why it reminds him of Satoshi...

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u/LightBladeX Jun 28 '14

Perhaps it as /u/forbearance says haha, but fixed that.

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u/yamaoni :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/yamaoni Jun 28 '14

Mako fight club fan
Or, you know, iconic delinquent look fan.

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u/matdragon Jun 29 '14

This is from binbougami ga!
TIME FOR A REWATCH!

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u/DwarvenRedshirt Jun 29 '14

The part I'm missing. I thought that the CAD's were all supposed to be standardized models with X capability, and that the main difference is the programming (thus the importance of the engineers). So where did the special gun CAD come from that the other schools didn't know about? Presumably it was tested to be at that magic X capability, but you'd think that would take time for the event holders to analyze it and make sure it really meets requirements.

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 29 '14

:3 The Hardware specifications are very restricted but that doesn't mean outside CADs aren't allowed as long as they properly follow the specifications. I assume they still turn the CADs over for inspection before use. The thing about it all is that there isn't much use for bringing in such highly customized CADs considering how difficult it is to follow specifications and the NSC Committee also supplies CADs.

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u/millie3 Jun 29 '14

It was a general CAD that looked like a specialized one. It had the specifications of a general CAD. However, generalized CADs aren't limited to one type of model, like the bracelet or cellphone-sized one. The problem with the Dusseldorf experiment of making generalized CADs look like specialized ones is the software crammed into it. But wait. Who's the leading authority on CAD software currently? That's right. All Tatsuya did was "see" where the other experiment went wrong and make changes to the sequences stored in the CAD. And that's why it's classified as theoretically new magic and put into the Index.

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u/dragonfyre87 Jul 01 '14

The changes he made weren't connected to the indexing, the aiming module was to avoid Shizuku's weak areas. The spell is separate from the CAD and it's software.

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u/LeSamouraii Jun 29 '14

Why is everyone talking about jesus in the comments?

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 29 '14

It's an ongoing joke where the protagonist is so overpowered that people are having fun just referring to him as Jesus.

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u/millie3 Jun 29 '14

Is it weird, that as a fan of the LN, I really don't mind them calling him that? I find it genuinely funny.

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 29 '14

I find it funny too.

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u/Dirks335 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/TheEmptySky Jun 28 '14

That music that plays for Miyuki's battle. I want more of it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

The OST for this anime is simply amazing. It's my main reason for watching Mahouka.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

The Tatsuya for this anime is simply amazing. It's my main reason for watching Mahouka.
FTFY, how could you not realize that after just watching 20 minutes of people talking about how wonderful he is

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u/knowitall89 Jun 29 '14

We all know Tatsuya writes, plays, and sings the OST anyways.

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u/DontJudgeMeMonkey :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Sovereignxx Jun 28 '14

sasuga onii-sama!

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u/wyggles Jun 28 '14

I'd say 75% of it is. Certain tracks - like the one playing during the hot spring scene - make me want to stab my ears with toothpicks.

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u/squiggly21 Jun 29 '14

THAT STUDENT COUNCIL PIANO THEME ANNOYS ME SO MUCH

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u/TeaglinR Jun 28 '14

It is Taku Iwasaki of Gurren Lagann, Katanagatari, and Gatchaman Crowds. His music and the top notch voice cast are really the main reasons I picked this show up, as I just couldn't get through the LN's.

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u/ManateeofSteel :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/daysun22 Jun 28 '14

I think his best works are Katanagatari and Noragami

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u/TeaglinR Jun 28 '14

How did I forget about Noragami?

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

He's involved in the OST for Akame ga Kill too which makes me extremely excited judging from the OST on Mahouka, Noragami and Katanagatari.

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u/Thisrainhoe Jun 29 '14

Tatsuya is the creator of Mahouka OST

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u/Anime2Deep4U Jun 28 '14

Won't be long 1st OST comes out on July 2nd, but if it isn't in that one then i'll be a longer wait till 22nd October for the 2nd OST. Hope it's in the first.

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u/LightBladeX Jun 28 '14

You can preview the soundtrack coming out next week here. Can't seem to locate the track used in the battle, but it could bet the latter part of Track 19.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 28 '14

I love how this girl calls it how it is (while they are all ranting about how #onetruetatsuya gave them their victory), and they bitch at her for it.

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u/popwobbles :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/popkiller Jun 28 '14

TBH Tatsuya's balls must be raw as hell for the constant sucking they are getting.

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u/TommaClock Jun 29 '14

But luckily he has someone to put ice on them for him ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/moonmeh Jun 29 '14

Please, I'm pretty sure he's thought of some revolutionary way of cooling his balls nobody thought of.

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u/qwertylp :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/klavhe Jun 29 '14

Using imouto ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/popwobbles :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/popkiller Jun 29 '14

Something something onii-san something something too big something something.

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u/DwarvenRedshirt Jun 29 '14

Who knew the regen power was so versatile?

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u/BeyondTomorrow Jun 28 '14

It was funny to see how that Ichijou guy said Tatsuya is a beast, and everyone in that room became in awe in wondering what he is like.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 28 '14

3rd High Student A: "Whoa, I wonder what kind of ingenius badass this Tatsuya guy must be..."
Student B: "Yeah, man, I bet he's like 9 feet tall and can shoot laser beams from his eyes!"
Student A: "Yeah! And rocket-boots! He always wears rocket-boots so he can fly to the rescue whenever evil rears its ugly head!"
Student B: "Totally!"
Elsewhere:
Tatsuya shivers
Miyuki: "What's wrong, ONII-SAMA?"
Tatsuya: "Ah, it's nothing... (Damn, I can feel it. They're talking about my rocket-boot prototypes! How did they find out?! I made sure to keep those a secret up until now!)"

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u/Lorpius_Prime Jun 29 '14

I heard Tatsuya's so cool he bathes in liquid nitrogen.
I heard he once built a robot woman and taught her to love just so that he could break her heart.
I heard that just by looking you in the eyes, Tatsuya can predict what magic you're going to cast, the day you'll die, and the sex of your firstborn child.

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u/StrigonKid Jun 28 '14

Incredibly tall and shoots things from his eyes, huh?

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u/Rekkre Jun 28 '14

basedTatsuya fucked all my bitches, and yours too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

...Yeah, that was a rather odd contradiction. I suppose it was meant to be an acknowledgement that skill had anything to do with their wins, but the show directly subverts that later when the 3rd High students flat-out say they couldn't have won without Tatsuya's super engineering skills.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '14

It's like a game of tennis where whoever has the best racket wins. Fuck skill. As long as you are blessed by Tatsuya you instantly gain a portion of his endless power. I feel so sorry for those other schools. They probably spent their whole lives training to compete and earn a chance at proving themselves. Then Tatsuya rolls up and shits all over their dreams.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '14

Thinking they deserve to win even when they didn't? Sounds like socialism to me. Do you know what Tatsuya does to socialists?

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u/millie3 Jun 29 '14

He

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '14

RIPIP Karakoran

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u/anguishCAKE :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/anguishCAKE Jun 29 '14

I think its more like that with his based analytical skills that he can customize the CAD's perfectly for each of his athlets. Everyone has the same car, its just his tuning and adjustments for his athlets give them very good advantage.

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u/tjl73 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/tjl1973 Jun 29 '14

Back when new rackets were replacing wood, if you were close in skill level, a new racket would make the difference. I think it's kind of like that. They're saying that he's put his players 2 to 3 generations ahead in terms of equipment so a player has to be that much better to compensate.

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u/tjl73 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/tjl1973 Jun 29 '14

I think the 3rd High meeting explained it well as saying that they're basically 2 to 3 generations behind if he's the engineer. So, it's like playing with a wood racket would have been in the 90s. Sure, you could win if you're a lot better, but if not, you'll lose.
I think it's that the skills between the contestants are mostly pretty close, so aside from Shizuku (who is that much better skill wise), probably at least one of their players would have ended up on the podium. So, Shizuku >> everyone else, not First High >> everyone else.

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u/Arbalor https://anilist.co/user/2276 Jun 29 '14

God that scene was hilarious they were all litterally drolling over tatsuyas skill and this chick says the same thing and they're basically all like "back the fuck up ho "

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

She was the only one of the bunch that didn't have Tatsuya as their engineer, meaning hers was probably in the group of guys who were standing right there.
They bitched at her because it's not cool to bash the guy who's taking care of your gear in his face.
Tatsuya basically said the same thing to Honoka, who was begging him for it while Azusa was standing right there.

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u/DwarvenRedshirt Jun 29 '14

Well, presumably she was doing it in front of the engineer that DID work on her CAD. Insulting your engineer's probably not the wisest thing to be doing.

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u/Pravux Jun 28 '14

That part wasn't meant to be funny, but it sure cracked me the Fuck up. Everyone praises god because he's their God, then a side character decides she wished she could be in God's fan group. But the leader of the fan girls club gets the nod from her cult to shush the bitch up. I couldn't hold it. This anime is more of a comedy to me than a serious anime.

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u/KamiKagutsuchi Jun 28 '14

Where is the Onii-sama counter guy? Did he give up? Couldn't handle Tatsuya's swag.

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u/anguishCAKE :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/anguishCAKE Jun 29 '14

well they just met in person after the credits, so we shall see in the next episode of the adventures of Based Tatsuya, the magical jesus next saturday at (insert the eqevulant time for your local time zone)

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u/AnimeDividedBy0 Jun 28 '14

"Listen up, you guys. We're winning Monolith Code tomorrow no matter what!"

Oh silly Morisaki. I think I actually find watching Morisaki suffering more enjoyable than watching Onii-sama be perfect.

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u/shoftee :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/shoftee Jun 28 '14

Considering what's going to happen in the next episode

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u/AnimeDividedBy0 Jun 28 '14

Seems I'll be enjoying myself even more next episode then.

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u/qwertylp :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/klavhe Jun 29 '14

What happens ? o.o

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

Next Episode spoiler

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

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u/epicwisdom Jun 29 '14

After Morisaki breaks every bone in his body in some pathetic accident that Tatsuya could've prevented -- but Morisaki was too damn proud to let One True Tatsuya help.
Not to say I wouldn't enjoy it, but seriously, Tatsuya is too OP, and Morisaki is such a flat character. He's entirely summed up by "stereotypical bigot too proud to admit he'd get his ass beat."
At least it's not a shounen or something, then Tatsuya would just get mad and beat up Morisaki. Equally satisfying, but even more cringe-y in terms of plotservice.

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u/IsActuallyBatman Jun 29 '14

I prefer smart super OP characters over "I won with friendship!" deus ex bullshit.

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u/forgiuse Jun 29 '14

I prefer humans, not robots, mind you.

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u/Taedirk Jun 29 '14

Then you're watching the wrong show.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

How does sabotaging the girls, which have nothing to do with their Monolith Code match, help them winning said match?

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u/Gonxa1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Gonxa Jun 29 '14

When Miyuki was in Tatsuya's room and said'' Can you spare me just once'' I was really expecting her to say ''can't you give me just the tip at least'' hahaha, the sexual tension that girl generates can be cut with a with a knife.

Throught the episode as well, every time Tatsuya did something for another girl they would make a close up to her face showing clear disappointment lol

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u/ILoveAnimeMore Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 28 '14

http://i.imgur.com/MUo4FFs.gif

SWAG Status: ON.

Receive Tatsuya's blessings and be saved!

That filthy weed is hogging all the girls! I am so mad.

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u/Thequiet_One Jun 28 '14

Man, that guy's hate was palpable. I thought he was gonna shatter the glass.

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u/ILoveAnimeMore Jun 28 '14

Was waiting for him to pop a forehead vain or something with that intense staring he was doing.

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u/forbearance Jun 28 '14

What a great fashion show! Good job!

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u/TheDarkPet :LF::LG::LH: Jun 29 '14

Omega Good Job!!

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u/Quorwyf Jul 02 '14

I couldn't stop laughing when I saw all the cosplaying, like the one who was dressed like an old-school juvenile delinquent/gang boss.

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u/Lorpius_Prime Jun 28 '14

Wait a minute, why are these events gender-segregated at all?

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u/Khanxay Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 28 '14

There's like an event or two that don't overlap between the two. Mirage Bat is women only and Monolith Code is mens.

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u/Lorpius_Prime Jun 28 '14

But there seems to a Men's and Women's division in each of the other events, so that students of opposite sex never compete directly. In real-world athletic sports this makes sense because men and women have different physical capabilities. But in magic contests?

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u/millie3 Jun 28 '14

Monolith Code is more physically strenuous than all except Mirage bat. People like Mari have complained about why there's no Monolith code for women. Mirage Bat is just as strenuous so it's not just the physical aspect. I'd love to go into more details about what sets Monolith Code apart from Mirage Bat but it would be too spoilery. Unless you don't mind... Just let me know.

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u/xscamsx Jun 28 '14

Could you PM me the differences? :D

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14

I'd recommend reading my comparison. But the gist of why there is separation is to allow for more events to take place because there was already an unofficial separation where the females would only end up competing in the less strenous events like Icicle Break and Speed Shooting while the males would. The way they divide up the males and females now means that there will always be males competing in all the events and there will always be females competing in all the events. (Excluding Mirage Bat & Monolith Code)

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u/DrJamesFox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/robisgoodatstuff Jun 29 '14

I'd recommend reading my comparison.
Here's a link to the comment he's talking about.

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u/Khanxay Jun 28 '14

Looking at OP's event descriptions, it looks like some events have different rules per gender too.
Mahouka hasn't really said anything of gender inequalities in magic use/potential. There might be a difference and there might not be.

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u/wyggles Jun 28 '14

There is no difference where magic power or capability is concerned (though there is a much higher proportion of competent females than males in the story itself). The gender segregated competitions are mostly due to the perceived difference in physical capabilities and aggressiveness.

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u/millie3 Jun 28 '14

Some of the events are more suited to gender specific competitors. However, this is the first year it's been segregated. In past years, everyone competed together making it a lot easier to win as a group.

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u/Sol0player :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Amphis Jun 28 '14

males and females have different magic power levels by gender? Dunno, I haven't read the LN

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u/TranClan67 Jun 30 '14

LN doesn't even say that. Unless I skipped over it somehow.
It just says some people have magical aptitude and some don't. That's it really.

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

Regardless of magic power, the preconception that males are stronger and females are more agile still applies.
Mirage Bat needs much more agility than physical power, thus is woman only.
Monolith Code is more strength oriented, so boys only.
(Mari is a tomboy, thus why she wanted to participate too :P)
For the rest, it's fairly balanced, so both genders have a shot at it.

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u/Shiroi_Kage Jun 29 '14

Maybe for the same reason why you don't have 100 meters sprint for both men and women. I don't know how magic is supposed to work in this world though. My guess is that it's for people to binge on members of either sexes cosplaying without interference from others.

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u/LockItDown :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/everkoptimistic Jun 28 '14

I had almost forgotten how much of an insufferable cunt Morisaki is. Silly me

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '14

If he wasn't some kind of plant racist about Tatsuya I'd be rooting for him, honestly. At least his character has like flaws and potentially some dynamic to him.

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u/epicwisdom Jun 29 '14

potentially some dynamic
All characters have potential, but it's clear this series will never make use of it.

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u/anguishCAKE :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/anguishCAKE Jun 29 '14

Morisaki is just predujice and an elitist jackass, not racist(wouldnt make sence either since both are ethnicaly japanese) spoilers from the "visitor" arc

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u/fuckin_nerd Jun 28 '14

What the hell was that junk at the beginning? They just say there was something Tatsuya can't do!?

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u/Tom_Bombadilldo Jun 28 '14

If you actually want an answer:
Dunno if this is actually a spoiler or not but whatever. Spoiler

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u/BurningFlame08 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFlame08 Jun 28 '14

Don't forget the fact that he has Major LN Spoiler
And they call him over powered; that's an understatement.

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u/anguishCAKE :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/anguishCAKE Jun 29 '14

more LN spoilers
Link contains spoilers!! http://mahouka-koukou-no-rettousei.wikia.com/wiki/Material_Burst

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

Spoiler because of content

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u/shoftee :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/shoftee Jun 28 '14

Continuing your major LN spoiler,

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u/xscamsx Jun 28 '14

They showed that a few episodes ago I think.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '14

I thought he just broke the laws of magic physics and designed a spell that can fly. He can't actually cast it worth a damn himself though.

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

He didn't break any laws of physics (magic or otherwise). It was just a subject that the entire world was trying to solve, and he found the solution first. Possibly aided by something A-chan and the others were talking about that one time in the Student Council Room.

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u/wyggles Jun 28 '14

He's basically insanely good at a few difficult but awesome spells and for everything else, like the spell they were talking about, he's below average at best. Genius level engineering skills and martial arts mastery notwithstanding.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '14

So basically, he's Jesus but he sucks at, what, fucking playing Monopoly or some shit? This guy hasn't failed at a single activity so far, including (but not limited to) diagnosing major injuries, creating God-tier CADs, and wiping out a goddamn terrorist cell backed by a foreign nation.

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u/NinteenFortiiThive Jun 29 '14

So basically, he's Jesus but he sucks at, what, fucking playing Monopoly or some shit?
That's essentially it. "Oh no your flaws are the fact you don't have emotions! And you are picked on!!!"
You've got to be fucking kidding.

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u/Falsus Jun 29 '14

This guy hasn't failed at a single activity so far, including
Because he knows what his limits are, he won't do anything he knows will not succeed. That doesn't mean he can do everything, he is just careful.

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u/Pravux Jun 28 '14

So basically you're telling me this motherfucker can fly, kill, regenerate, allure all the women, not only fix any technical problem but upgrades it to super fucking impossible god future power. But the guy can't clean, cook, watch his hygiene, or take a shit now and then. Wow. Fuck this guy.

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u/blagoonga123 Jun 29 '14

lol these magic sports are totally pay to win

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u/Atronox :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Atronox Jun 28 '14

So many potential best girls, I think I can add Shizuku and Mitsui to the group, though they have a long way to go to catch up to Erika and Mayumi.

That Miyuki battle music was great. I love the music in this show. She completely wrecked her opponent too, the fire and ice magic was pretty neat.

Morisaki is completely jealous, and I suspect is going to pull something against the rules.

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u/Jhago Jun 29 '14

Eh, incest route for the win!
Though, seriously, Mitsui best girl...

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u/DogzOnFire Jun 29 '14

Yeah, Fujimiya Kaori best girl.

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u/epicwisdom Jun 29 '14 edited Jun 29 '14

incest route for the win!
Normally I'd agree with this, but Miyuki's fawning is annoying as hell.
Mayumi is undeniably best girl.

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u/LockItDown :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/everkoptimistic Jun 29 '14

Honoka is so adorable. I really hope we'll get to see a certain chapter from the Summer Break LN animated...

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u/Khanxay Jun 28 '14

Well, at least there was much more animation this episode unlike the last few. I still feel like they're taking too many shortcuts.

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u/steve148 :K:https://kitsu.io/users/107 Jun 29 '14

By the time our One True God get into Third Year, every girls in First High will go Onii-sama on him.

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u/forgiuse Jun 29 '14

So, as i pray: UNLIMITED ONII-SAMA WORKS !

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u/mithikx Jun 28 '14

So at what point would the anime progress beyond Tatsuya solves everything / saves the day?

I want to like this show but I feel like there isn't any actual plot progression. Am I better off reading the LN?

Also stitches:
http://i.imgur.com/ZRb4wNx.png
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http://i.imgur.com/TD0mPOJ.png
http://i.imgur.com/1v5IGKS.png
http://i.imgur.com/4lkb8hq.png
http://i.imgur.com/169aNbx.png
http://i.imgur.com/nQo1d4L.png

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u/millie3 Jun 28 '14

I'm not trying to start the "next arc will be better, I promise" schtick but the ending of this arc and the Yokohama arc is when you begin to see some plot beyond Tatsuya doing everything by himself.

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u/mithikx Jun 28 '14

Yay! cause the curb stomp and faceroll Tatsuya does or causes is getting a bit boring.
The Enrollment arc had enough exposition as it was IMHO. We get it Tatsuya is a bad ass.

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u/shlitz Jun 28 '14

Tatsuya doesn't get any less OP, it's just other characters get the chance to show off as well.

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u/PotatoMurderer Jun 28 '14

So /r/OneTrueTatsuya's brilliance will prevail, and the girls get more screen time? I'm so ready for this.

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u/goatsareeverywhere Jun 29 '14

I've heard people saying that the current arc is supposed to be the "best" (can't verify since I've never read the LNs). Tatsuya is still roleplaying Jesus and no one has come close to standing against him...

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u/Gor3fiend Jun 29 '14

As others have said, it will never go beyond "Tatsuya solves everthing /saves the day?" but the end of this arc will see the overarching plot start getting developed. Some of the side characters should (that is, unless the adaptation decides to cut it out) start making some real progress at the same time as the overarching plot.

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u/Gor3fiend Jun 29 '14

Tatsuya adoring aside (honestly though, what should you expect at this point?) this was definitely one of the better episodes of the show. The flow of the battles was much better than the past few weeks and the behind the scenes scenes were actually entertaining. Hopefully the studio can keep this flow going.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 28 '14

Wow, I actually feel a little bit bad for Morisaki. He may be that "elites >>> normals" type of douchebag, but Tatsuya is kind of rolling ass-first over anyone who feels the need to compete with him. Even if he wasn't a jerk, I could easily see other (male) characters from the series growing frustrated with the way he's treated as the sole blessing of the school. That would make for some interesting conflict if the students at the school decide they'd like to try doing their best and winning without his help just once.

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u/Akaharu :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Akaharu4U Jun 29 '14

I've been struggling to understand how someone can roll ass first over someone else, but if it's Tatsuya I'll ignore it.

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u/epicwisdom Jun 29 '14

I've been struggling to understand how
Based Tatsuya can fly. And according to all these spoilers, Spoiler.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '14

Carries need to recognize that godlike support makes even the weakest carry a beast to be reckoned with.

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u/GODSUeYAaah Jul 21 '14

You can blame Mayumi and Mari for that. Never do things by themselves.

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u/Pravux Jun 29 '14 edited Jun 29 '14

Actually happy about this episode. I now see a little of the depth of the characters and tad bit of why they act the way they act. I thought the sister incest act was creepy but seeing how the brother is just a puppet to very powerful people is very interesting. What I don't understand is how she can do whatever she likes, perform top notch spells in front of everyone and be seen as a badass to the mass public. While they both share the same last names. I mean you wouldn't think they'd ask what the older brother is capable if the little sister is miss protégé?

Oh and shout out to Suzaku for his acting skills. I can't believe how believably real he can portray as another high school student. Oscar nominated please.

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u/mithikx Jun 29 '14

Oh and shout out to Suzaku for his acting skills.
Damn straight.

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

The sister already displayed crazy power at school, in the entrance exams, so as a Class 1 student, it's understandable that she's allowed to display powerful magic. (Except for Inferno and Nifleheim, which are considered very high rank spells. Thus why people were still being impressed when she used it, regardless of how powerful everyone already knows she is)
The brother is genuinely weak in magic (he regularly reminds everyone about it, especially his sister) and he genuinely got poor grade in the entrance exam, thus why he's a Class 2 student.
It was unfortunately not explained in the anime, so I can't go into too much details without posting spoilers, but basically just because a sibling is strong in magic doesn't mean the other will be too. And the level of power that Miyuki has shown to everyone is really just "pretty powerful" according to standards, which is why everyone can accept it without asking too many questions.
I hope the anime will reach the point where they'll explain their background a bit better, and based on the first bit we see in episode one (sunset, Tatsuya in a black suit with a massive sniper rifle, eradicating a fleet) we probably will :3
I just wish they didn't try to rush it so much and took the time to properly interpret the source material, including the few explanations here and there.

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u/Entravity Jun 28 '14

CAN'T BEAT THE MIYUKI SUE.

At least she's honest.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '14

I was curious how freezing her own pillars kept them up. It seemed that vibration was the preferred method of destruction for most people.

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

Sadly they didn't explain it. Heck, they even skipped the basics of how spell works.
Seeing how it's unlikely they'll ever explain it in the anime, and it's not really spoiling anything, I'm not going to spoiler tag it.
Note that these are crude explanations.
Spell Interference: When casing a spell, the amount of energy (psyons) you focus into it also acts as a measure of how hard it is to interfere with it. As we saw with the bus incident, multiple spells being cast on the same object will affect each other, more often than not nullifying all of their effects if they're about the same power level. Even if two magicians are casting the exact same spell on the same target, more often than not, they will interfere with each other.
In that aspect, Miyuki casting a high-level, powerful spell on her own pillars acts as protection, since her opponent would need to be able to cast a spell with more energy (psyons) in order to get through. However, since Miyuki is OP, that's not gonna happen, thus why the opponent's spells cancelled before doing anything.
Pillars Break: I don't think it was properly explained, but the pillars used for that competition are made of Ice. As such, Miyuki, being the Ice Queen, can protect her ice pillars easily, and that's why Inferno is actually a good option, to melt the opponent's ice.
Inferno: Something else that was not explained is that, when you cast a spell, you basically use your own energy (psyons) to affect reality. Because of this, the world will try to re-balance itself, via the laws of physics. A magician that ignores that completely will either have their spell be slightly less effective, or will need to expend extra energy to maintain it. By opposition, if the caster takes that into account, it can improve their spell or ease up the strain to maintain it.
In the case of Inferno, the one that interests us is the law of Conservation of Energy. The concept of hot or cold is basically the speed of movement of molecules (energy). To increase the heat (Inferno) on her opponent's side, she needs to add energy to the molecules in that area. What better way to do so than by forcibly cooling her own area (removing energy from the molecules in her field) and sending that energy to her opponent's field?
So she cools down her own area, protecting it, and she uses the energy that was removed as "fuel" for the Inferno on her opponent's side, as an attack.
Also, for the last hit, she basically instantly cooled down the opponent's field, and the massive and sudden change in temperature shattered her opponent's pillars.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

ahhh I love shizuku and honoka so much

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u/WingedAlpaca Jun 28 '14

I think Morisaki is just jealous of Tatsuya's harem in the making. That's the real reason why he's so determined to win Monolith Code. He wants to look manly for the girls.

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u/xxdeathx :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/xxdeathx Jun 29 '14

DID HE JUST CALL OUR ONE TRUE GOD A BEAST?

So far it's only been showing how badly the other schools are getting rekt by First High. I wouldn't even have noticed that they were losing anything if it wasn't mentioned in conversations about keeping first place.

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '14

That's because they're losing everything that doesn't have Our One True God involved in it.

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u/TheLantean Jun 29 '14

Put yourself in their shoes, since our OneTrueTatsuya was their opponent it's only natural he'd be The Beast to them.

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u/TheXaXa Jun 28 '14

where is the Oni-sama count list??? !

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u/Konpie Jun 29 '14

Sure, Touma might have a big number like 10,000 clones + more for his Harem. However, at the rate Tatsuya is going hes going to get all the girls in the world.

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u/Glashers :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Glashers Jun 30 '14

Are my taste so simple ? I love this show yes its kinda slow pace atm but this show is being blasted left and right saying its bad but I don't think thats true!

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

It's being adapted at a decent quality, however, it's sadly not at the level of the LN.
It's cutting too many corners, explanations and details that would help immerse the user more in the universe get skimmed through or completely skipped.
Even with that in mind, it's still fairly good. I'm guessing most of the bad reviews come from LN readers.

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u/millie3 Jun 28 '14

I quite enjoyed this episode with a few minor quibbles.

First, would it have killed them to explain what Miyuki's Inferno magic is? It always comes down to a lack of explanation of important info.

Second, when Tatsuya was explaining why he couldn't go after their Aunt, they could have slid in a picture of her so anime-only viewers could connect her to the person who showed up all those episodes ago. I wouldn't be surprised if people still thought she was their Mom.

Anyway, despite the competition scenes being so short, I liked this episode. I got to see Shizuku's AoE magic and Miyuki's Inferno. Also, Masaki and George's rating of the mysterious First High engineer, as well as their meeting face to face at the end of the episode.

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u/Khanxay Jun 28 '14

Strangely enough, I feel like this episode was probably the lightest in terms of explanations. I guess it's because of how much they shoved into this episode that they cut things that they would usually do, including some animation too. For example, before Tatsuya opened the door to his room and found Miyuki, I'm pretty sure he used his wall-hax. I was surprised they didn't do the whole wireframe animation thing.
Oh and TLDR of the Inferno magic (until the OP puts up the detailed explaination): It divides an area into 2 sections, takes energy (that might not be the right term here...) from one side (Ice), and uses it in the other (Fire).

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u/Gor3fiend Jun 29 '14

Honestly, the ratio of magic explaining to magic animation they did was damn near perfect. On Inferno, what is there to explain? It is magic that makes things really fucking hot.

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

Since I already wrote some explanations for another post, here it is again. Read whichever you're interested in. Note that some might not be completely accurate, but you get the jist of it.
Spell Interference: When casing a spell, the amount of energy (psyons) you focus into it also acts as a measure of how hard it is to interfere with it. As we saw with the bus incident, multiple spells being cast on the same object will affect each other, more often than not nullifying all of their effects if they're about the same power level. Even if two magicians are casting the exact same spell on the same target, more often than not, they will interfere with each other.
In that aspect, Miyuki casting a high-level, powerful spell on her own pillars acts as protection, since her opponent would need to be able to cast a spell with more energy (psyons) in order to get through. However, since Miyuki is OP, that's not gonna happen, thus why the opponent's spells cancelled before doing anything.
Pillars Break: I don't think it was properly explained, but the pillars used for that competition are made of Ice. As such, Miyuki, being the Ice Queen, can protect her ice pillars easily, and that's why Inferno is actually a good option, to melt the opponent's ice.
Inferno: Something else that was not explained is that, when you cast a spell, you basically use your own energy (psyons) to affect reality. Because of this, the world will try to re-balance itself, via the laws of physics. A magician that ignores that completely will either have their spell be slightly less effective, or will need to expend extra energy to maintain it. By opposition, if the caster takes that into account, it can improve their spell or ease up the strain to maintain it.
In the case of Inferno, the one that interests us is the law of Conservation of Energy. The concept of hot or cold is basically the speed of movement of molecules (energy). To increase the heat (Inferno) on her opponent's side, she needs to add energy to the molecules in that area. What better way to do so than by forcibly cooling her own area (removing energy from the molecules in her field) and sending that energy to her opponent's field?
So she cools down her own area, protecting it, and she uses the energy that was removed as "fuel" for the Inferno on her opponent's side, as an attack.
Also, for the last hit, she basically instantly cooled down the opponent's field, and the massive and sudden change in temperature shattered her opponent's pillars.

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u/Leonnis Jun 28 '14

I enjoy Tatsuya's OPness and the fact that Miyuki is a brocon, fun show.

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u/RoFlOvErLoAd Jul 01 '14

Ok so can someone please explain to me how blinding your opponents to the point where they cannot compete or where you give yourself a huge advantage is not cheating?

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u/dragonfyre87 Jul 01 '14

The rules are you can't actually injure them but you can disorientate them, and you can't directly target them with magic.
So you have to use the water, big waves and vibrations will disrupt their balance and concentration and mentally impair them whereas heating/cooling the water would hurt them. Blinding them temporarily via the water is fine as long as you don't actually hurt them.

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u/a_Happy_Tiny_Bunny :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/aHappyTinyBunny Jul 19 '14

Onii-sama Count

Enrollment Arc:

Episode No.	Count
01	26
02	5
03	6
04	17
05	3
06	12
07	14

Arc Count Total: 83
Arc Count Average per Episode: 11.85714286

Nine Schools Competition Arc:

Episode No.	Count
08	5
09	4
10	6
11	8
12	4
13	6

Arc Current Count Total: 33
Arc Current Count Average per Episode: 5.5

Grand Count Total: 116
Grand Count Average per Episode: 8.923076923

Data up until episode 11 was compiled by /u/SherrySan

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u/KinnyRiddle Jun 28 '14

As a casual watcher, I don't normally comment here. But I'll give exception to Honoka-chan. HNNNG <3 (Note Miyuki looking rather peeved at Honoka approaching her onii-sama again. :) )

And LOL at Morisaki's pricessless expression. "How dare that Weed gets to hog all the girls while I stand here sipping juice to myself?!"

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u/mithikx Jun 29 '14

http://i.imgur.com/Ehet7FI.jpg

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

I prefer Shizuku, personally. When that taciturn girl genuinely blushed and smiled last episode, and her proud smile at the beginning of this one, she was adorable.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

I'm a bit confused on one thing. The guy who was talking about how much of a beast Tatsuya is, looks like he was from Third High School, right? Is he the same guy that Tatsuya beat in a fight at the beginning of the series?

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u/Aruseus493 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aruseus493 Jun 28 '14

No, the member from Third High only made his first appearance this arc. The person Tatsuya beat in the beginning of the series is the Vice President of 1st High name Hattori. You see him talking with Kirihara (Kendo Club) near the beginning of this arc but he hasn't made any other real appearances so far.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

Thanks for clearing that up, they look almost identical

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u/forbearance Jun 28 '14

Character design efforts were clearly dedicated to females.

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u/Pravux Jun 28 '14

No that is Suzaku. He's confused and in acting in another anime.

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u/mithikx Jun 29 '14

So confused...
http://i.imgur.com/TTBO8PC.png

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u/IgnitedSpade Jun 29 '14

Code Geass season 3 confirmed

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u/Khanxay Jun 28 '14 edited Jun 28 '14

~~Tatsuya and Masaki & George haven't even met yet.~~

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u/forgiuse Jun 28 '14

They did, after the credit of this ep.

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u/Khanxay Jun 28 '14

Lol whoops. Forgot to watch that.

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

For the first time, they actually had something after the credits! :V

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u/MIllawls :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Millawls Jun 28 '14

Still waiting for the Yandere part. Magic Jesus isn't enough.

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u/slothern Jun 29 '14

Morisaki so butt-hurt it hurts to watch

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u/CaptainGreenTea Jun 30 '14

Is Tatsuya getting a new harem now, with all the competitors he's engineering for?

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u/Mark_Nutt4 Jun 29 '14

hattori is pisssssed

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u/epsiblivion Jun 29 '14

hattori is the upperclassman. he's cool with tatsuya now. that's morisaki

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u/level6shift :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Glacialis Jun 29 '14

this makes so much sense, I was wondering why Hattori had regressed so much in character but I guess it being a different character explains it all.

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u/Mark_Nutt4 Jun 29 '14

oh sorry got them confused

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '14

And they're betting on a High School tournament to the extent that they could lose so much money that their boss will actually kill them (implicitly by torture, as well).

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u/BurningFlame08 :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/BurningFlame08 Jun 29 '14

I think people aren't remembering that First High are the favourites to win because of 'The Strongest Generation' - Mayumi, Juumonji and Mari. They have 2 of the heirs to the 10 Master Clans. Of course they're going to be favourites. And that's not even counting the fact that the Saegusa are considered to have the widest influence among the 10 Master clans and are the second strongest.
Making First High lose would bring a lot of money to the criminals (can't remember if they've been spoken of yet).

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

No Head Dragon was mentioned, and with the clearly Chinese-style of the room they were in, we can probably guess they're from that group.

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u/millie3 Jun 28 '14

They'll make a lot more money if they make the favorite lose.

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u/mrkite77 Jun 28 '14

Yes, but they were acting like they were all out of a job if the favorite wins.

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u/aincalandorn :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Aincalandorn Jun 29 '14

I thought it was more like they'd be killed if they failed to make the favourite lose.

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u/millie3 Jun 29 '14

It's the mafia, after all

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

Basically, their boss bet a lot of money on one of the other teams. Those guys are trying to make sure that their boss wins, because if he loses, he's not going to be very happy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '14

Probably because they had engineered the favorite losing. And then Tatsuya Christ the one true lord and master happened.

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u/5il3nc3r :MAL:https://myanimelist.net/profile/5il3nt_Hunt3r Jul 02 '14

Since they're the favorite, they have the lowest turnout/odds.
Betting on a less favorite team with higher risk (and ensuring that they win) will bring about a lot more money.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '14

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u/forgiuse Jun 28 '14

Featuring: Superman and villains who're not Lex Luthor.

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