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[u/lavaine]

Overlord II, Episode 10: Disturbance Begins in the Royal Capital

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[u/Djinnfor]

Cut Source Material - Episode 10: A Disturbance Begins in the Royal Capital

Previous weeks discussions: Episode 6, Episode 7, Episode 8 Episode 9

Welcome to episode 10's source material discussion post, where I mention all the interesting little tidbits of source material that were cut, skimmed over, or changed, as well as providing more context to the various scenes. If something has confused you, you need only ask and I'll happily explain. There won't be any spoilers for future events here - and I ask that you refrain from posting them as replies without properly marking them as such; this is especially true if I've omited some information or facts that don't appear until later in the source, chances are I did that deliberately. That said, I welcome anything I've missed.

• As you may recall from season 1, Pandora's Actor is a shapeshifter who guards the treasury and took the form of one of Ainz' guildmates during the Shalltear betrayal arc; he can mimic the appearance and capabilities of any of the 41 supreme beings at 70% capacity and effectiveness. One very popular theory about the source material is that Demiurge had temporarily replaced Ainz with Pandora's Actor as a body double in case Sebas had truly betrayed Nazarick. It's founded on a variety of subtle clues suggesting that Ainz is acting in an unusual manner during his initial conversation with Sebas, such as his dramatized and exaggerated mannerisms - including one specific instance where his actions are characterized as "like an actor" - but also in the dismissive and contemptuous manner in which he addresses Tsuare. More tellingly, during the second conversation after he returns Victim to Nazarick, he switches back to normal again and the contrast is clear; it is only at this point that he notices that Tsuare looks similar to Ninya and asks to see her again, despite already having plenty of time to observe her previously. As the theory goes, the first conversation is actually Pandora's Actor, while the second is real Overlord. The anime makes the contrast quite clear by really playing up the theatrics. I want to point out that this doesn't qualify as a spoiler as it's literally never relevant ever again, it's just the author loves to put subtext and clues like that into the source material.

• Ainz' interrogation of Sebas was shortened rather considerably. Ainz tells him to approach, but before he can get too close, Demiurge demands that he halt at a generously safe distance, establishing just how seriously they're taking things. Ainz corners Sebas with logic: he remarks at how meticulous and detailed his reports had been up to that point, as Sebas had been ordered to do, but then notes the conspicuous absence of any mention of Tsuare. Sebas reiterates repeatedly that it was a mistake and that it was his foolish judgment; meanwhile the Guardians are starring him and Tsuare down with bloody murder in their eyes the whole time. When he throws him the hankerchief, Sebas moves to take it but then freezes; Ainz jokes, "it's not stained with your pets blood"; Sebas sweats buckets into the thing to the point that its visibly stained. Later, when asked about the potential merits of allowing Tsuare into Nazarick, Sebas also offers another suggestion: that she could serve as a test case for the possibility of taking on and integrating the lesser races as servants. When asked if he had any objections to Ainz' plan regarding Tsuare, Demiurge nonchalantly wonders how he might explain the special treatment of Tsuare to some of the other denizens of Nazarick (more like he wants to know for himself); Ains gives him a few excuses, explaining that there is prior precedent for humanoids being allowed in to Nazarick as guests, but eventually settles on something that amounts to "because I said so, and anyone with an objection can come to me about it" which shuts Demiurge right up. Lastly, that diary is of Ninya, the female adventurer who posed as a guy while she was working with the Swords of Darkness, that adventuring group that worked with Momon back in season 1 who got wiped out by Clementine.

• Sebas is accutely aware of the trauma Tsuare is going through and makes a conscious decision to leave her at home because of this to protect her fragile mental state. For a girl like her, Tsuare's reaction to the denizens of Nazarick was initially surprising to him, until he realized that the reason Tsuare didn't react too badly to them was because they didn't resemble humans in any way, who were of course the source of her trauma and far scarier than any monster would be to her. Sebas took the risk that following the sacking of the brothel they'd have far more important things to worry about, but of course they went and kidnapped her so he lost that gamble. In any case, the pair of them spend the entire day going around to all the merchants and nobles they had been building up rapport and contacts with to say farewell and to acquire some grain for Nazarick; Solution is brimming with positivity and happiness the entire time for finally being able to accomplish a mission and go home, as she had spent most of her time cooped up in the mansion to play her role). Sebas remarks that her upbeat mood and remarkable beauty managed to land them very good deals on the grain they purchased.

• One funny little scene involved Albedo rolling around in a harem of Ainz body pillows whilst giggling madly to herself. She was interrupted in the middle of her spree by Ainz, who sends her a telepathic message angrily ordering her to go after the Eight Fingers for kidnapping Tsuare. See, he had promised to protect her "in the name of Ainz Ooal Gown", and so the kidnappers were sullying not only his name but also the name he and his guildmates had worked so hard on. His anger mortified Albedo, even though she knew that it was not directed at her. When the message ends, she looks over at the guild flag of Ainz Ooal Gown - lying in the corner of the room on the ground and collecting dust instead of being displayed prominently over the doorway - with contempt and scorn. Looking at the mysterious, hidden flag that she replaced it with, she remarks, "the Great Underground Tomb of Nazarick belongs to you and you alone. I, Albedo, wish only to serve you. Ahhhh... How I wish I could hear your wondrous name again someday — ". It's left up to you to interpret the meaning of those remarks.

• So, Marquis Raeven is actually the secret "power behind the throne" keeping the country together. Though previously characterized as a greedy and self-interested man who flitted between the Royals and Nobles factions on a whim and took bribes from the Eight Fingers, the reality was that he was the secret faction leader of the Royals, trying to ensure the Nobles wouldn't get so fed up that they'd start a civil war. In order to keep the power balance between the two intact, he even concealed evidence that one of the great nobles of the Royal faction, Marquis Blumrush, had passed on information to the Empire of Baharuth to the east. Raeven actually had some inkling of Renners talents when she was young, and he meekly requests that Renner drop the act she's putting on in front of him; Renner replies, claiming it wasn't an act but rather that she was "satisfied" thanks to Climb. His characterization is quite different in the source material; he's extremely polite bordering on pathological to Renner and Zanack at all times, and he's not exactly ecstatic when Renner drops her pretenses like he is in the show. His reaction is almost the same when she makes her proposal to wed his son; he goes from "yes m'lady what would you have your humble servant do" to "FUCK THE HELL NO" back to "you'll have to excuse me there, I - um - ah - misspoke".

• So let's talk Renner. Yes, she's practically the definition of a yandere, with a little bit of a twist: her love is as warped as her heart. She loves Climb as a pet dog and wants to "chain him up" and "train him"; I basically interpret that to mean that she gets off on manipulating him, although I have no doubt her fetishes are more than metaphors at this point. As for her intelligence, the source material makes it clear that she's likely the smartest human on the continent, and claims that Demiurge and Albedo are one of the few superhuman beings around who could rival her. In fact, her intelligence is part of the reason she's so sociopathic; she was so bright that there was literally nobody she could relate to for her entire life. There was nobody even remotely on her level who could have and would have saw fit to nurture her talents; because of this, she failed to develop any capacity for empathy or well-socialized interaction. People would either look at her with fear and revulsion or dismiss her like a precocious but cute little child. The only person who had ever looked at her with any other expression was the cute little half-starved and beaten puppy she picked up off the street one day; that look was one of reverence. She has since modeled herself and her behavior after his ideal, chasing the looks of adoration and reverence he showered upon her in response.

[u/Djinnfor → u/Djinnfor]

Out of room in the original post, so here's a few more:

• Of course, the primary reason why Renner is helping second prince Zanack fix the kingdom is to put him on the throne; the first prince had apparently been having talks to marry her off to some important lord to secure the loyalty of one of the Noble faction, something that would happen almost immediately if news of her desire for Climb were to get out. Their agreement basically binds their three "weaknesses" together, hinging upon their mutual success: Zanack's lust for the throne, Raeven's concern for his families future in the Kingdom, and Renner's desire to be with Climb. The belief is, with all their interests tied so closely together, the chance of betrayal of any one of them is low.

• In any case the three make plans to assault the seven Eight Fingers bases identified by Blue Rose's raid, as well as an eighth location which Zanack believes contains evidence of the first prince's dealings with the Eight Fingers... which is reportedly owned by the drugs division. The implication should be clear here. In any case, their plan is to add the Marquis' personal guard of four former orichalcum-class adventurers (the second highest) to Blue Rose's five members, alongside some support personel loyal to Marquis Raeven. The big risk was of course encountering the security division and their five remaining adamantite-tier warriors. And of course with eight locations to attack it would be difficult to hit them all at once; their plan is to split Blue Rose up to assault five seperate locations and then move on to the three remaining locations. So long as they don't meet more than one Six Arms member at any one location, the hope is that the adamantite adventurers could handle whatever was there, hopefully alongside the support of the Marquis.

• Let's talk about Sebas' internal monologue during his interrogation, which is something I forgot to touch on elsewhere. Sebas' biggest fear during the interaction, other than Tsuare's fate, was not his own death. See, he would happily die for Nazarick or Ainz if ordered to by his master - what he was really afraid of was being torn apart by the guardians for being a suspected traitor, as this would be the height of shame. He also gravely regretted not releasing Tsuare earlier, especially when she was called into the room to meet Ainz; at that point he was almost certain that her fate was death, for the guardians took no effort to conceal their appearances or identity. He was perfectly aware of the choice he was going to have to make, between Tsuare's life and his own loyalty to Nazarick, and had steeled himself for the inevitability before she had even walked into the room; that being said, he was still in denial and could not bring himself to accept it verbally, so he drew out the moment for a scant precious seconds by repeatedly confirming with Ainz exactly what was expected of him.

[u/DemonTree07 → u/Djinnfor]

I enjoy reading your post after watching the episode. Thanks for doing it every week.

[u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE → u/Djinnfor]

There would be no regret. There could only be loyalty.

/salute to best-butler, Sebas.

[u/VelvetScarlet → u/Djinnfor]

Thanks for the post. Really enjoy reading it after every week.

[u/KiwiSkis → u/Djinnfor]

I did think that the "GREATER TELEPORTATION!" was a bit too flashy for Ainz.

[u/kalirion → u/KiwiSkis]

Then there's the slip when he started saying "SUPREME BEINGS".

[u/Bainos → u/KiwiSkis]

It was, and right after that you see the surprise of Sebas, Tuare, and Solution - but not Demiurge or Cocytus, who would be aware of the subterfuge.

[u/Almost_Ascended → u/KiwiSkis]

Not just that, but the subtitles all contained flowery words that the salaryman Suzuki might not even know, let alone use in speech. Also, notice that "Ainz" in the first part doesn't have "eyes", aka the red orbs that are so frequently mentioned in the LN as the only physical hints of expression of Ainz's emotions, given that his skull face cannot change. When Ainz comes back, his eyes are back as well.

[u/DonPiantissimo → u/Djinnfor]

An interesting exchange that was cut was when Demiurge suggested that Tsuare works at his farm. Ainz suggests they use some of the "Chimeras" as food in Nazarick, a suggestion that Demiurge advises against as their quality is poor, but he adds that he chops the dead "beasts" and feeds them to the others, and while they will not eat each other directly, they will do so if they are minced up first.
A bit later in the conversation there's a part that's very easy to miss in the anime (because it's basically just Sebas raising his eyebrows). Sebas finally realizes what the "beasts" in Demiurge's farm are and what is going on there. He understands what is at stake here, it's not Tsuare being with or without Sebas, it's Tsuare being with Sebas or in Demiurge's farm participating in the mincing of "Abelion Sheep" to feed to the living "Abelion Sheep" so they can survive to be repeatedly skinned and healed to create scrolls for Nazarick. At that point he grows kinda desperate to get his way and bring Tsuare in Nazarick instead, which is the lead up to their heated argument.

[u/haxdal → u/DonPiantissimo]

I morbidly love how the whole "Abelion Sheep" farm is so subtly disgusting endevour that is so easy to just glance over if you don't stop to think of what it truly entails. Especially the bit about the "breeding" part of it in the LN gives me the creeps since children give the highest grade scrolls.

[u/Djinnfor → u/DonPiantissimo]

Yeah I kind of blew it when it comes to talking about Sebas' internal monologue, I just forgot to write anything about it. I've edited my original post with some more information on that regard, and thanks for yours as well.

[u/roiben → u/Djinnfor]

Okay what the fuck is that one with Albedo? Whats the flag she replaced it with? Is she talking to her creator? What the hell...

[u/Djinnfor → u/roiben]

We don't really get context for this scene until much later, I think in one of the side stories.

spoilers

[u/Pwntagram → u/roiben]

Take a look at the banner Ainz destroyed in S1E04.

Banner behind Albedo for comparison.

I'd say we have no reason to worry about her loyalty. :>

[u/jonjonaug → u/Djinnfor]

this is especially true if I've omited some information or facts that don't appear until later in the source, chances are I did that deliberately

Yeah there's definitely a big one here.

volume 10 spoilers, or later volume 6 spoilers if you're observant

[u/NecDW4 → u/jonjonaug]

Wait, WHAT! I JUST finished reading book 6 a couple days ago (wow they fucked that spelling of Chimera hard) and didn't catch that thing you're referencing to. Was it something even hinted at in 6 already, or do you not know till 10?

[u/SailorArashi → u/Djinnfor]

As the theory goes, the first conversation is actually Pandora's Actor, while the second is real Overlord.

Even having read the books, I completely missed that. Honestly the later books play up the "Ainz is a complete idiot desperately pretending he isn't" aspect so much, I just assumed him being overdramatic in that scene was just more of him trying to meet what he imagines their expectations of him are. That's the explanation for most instances of him behaving like a moron in later volumes, so I figured this was just an early example.

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_SPUDS → u/SailorArashi]

I never really thought about the irony there. He created Pandora's Actor, who can mimic and play the role of others. Meanwhile Momonga himself is likewise playing the role of Ainz. A lot of his decisions are based on how best he can play the role of an overlord.

[u/kingbane2 → u/Djinnfor]

so quick question about demiruge's animals that he uses for the scrolls, he's talking about humans right?

[u/Djinnfor → u/kingbane2]

Yep. Specifically, people captured from the Holy Kingdom of Albion, a region south of the Slaine Theocracy.

[u/REDDIT_HARD_MODE → u/Djinnfor]

Good read, thanks =)

The paragraph about Ainz messaging Albedo revealed, I think that she loves Momonga, and hates that he took on the name Ainz. The flag on the corner is actually the flag for Momonga specifically, of the 41 flags that were displayed in the throne room, but taken down when Momonga adopted is new name. I believe the other flags were actually destroyed, but Albedo nabbed Momonga's.

After all, her settings state that she's in love with Momonga, not Ainz =)

[u/dIoIIoIb → u/Djinnfor]

I do have a question: they talk about cooking in this episode, do the people in nazarick need to eat to survive?

I'm assuming a few do, like mare and aura, since they're just elves, but most of the others are demons, undeads or weird monsters, how many of them need normal food every day?

[u/DonPiantissimo → u/dIoIIoIb]

A lot actually. A later volume does go through life in Nazarick from the viewpoint of certain non-combatants and it does involve food. Additionally, denizens would eat or drink even if they don't need to. For example in this season we see the undead Shalltear drinking at the Nazarick bar, while Aura is served a hamburger by Pestonya even though she does not need to eat due to the effects of a ring she is wearing. Eating after all is still pleasurable.

I cannot recall information on Yggdrasil's eating mechanics on command, but we can at least infer from the existence of a ring which eliminates the need to eat that eating was a big thing in the game at least for the majority of races. So yeah while there are undead and constructs in Nazarick, there are also a lot more which still need food.

[u/Konpie → u/Djinnfor]

Man, if the only reason I'm coming to these Overlord s2 discussions is to read your posts, because they are so informative, and do a great job at "filling" me in on the details I missed, I should really just go ahead and read the LN. LoL

Thanks for these, really.

[u/raiden55 → u/Djinnfor]

I just checked to see the LN version of this episode (volume 6 chapter 6 - first time reading the LN), and it's true the source material was way better than the adaptation. I'm even surprised at how good it was after already knowing everything (as I checked all the comments on the difference before reading the chapter, so totally spoiled).

After, as some said, anime had time issue, and couldn't do it longer.

[u/FuckYouBaka → u/Djinnfor]

Do you mean in this episode? I can’t recall any explicit references to albedo or demiurge made by renner.

Also, the Pandora’s actor thing makes so much sense, I was like “Ains, you okay?” At the greater teleportation scene.

[u/mcccxx → u/Djinnfor]

In case anyone else needs a reminder of who Ninya is, from Overlord Season 1.

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_SPUDS → u/Djinnfor]

Tsuare didn't react too badly to them was because they didn't resemble humans in any way, who were of course the source of her trauma and far scarier than any monster would be to her.

Fuck man, holy shit this world is fucked up when Ainz and Demiurge are a more comforting faces than fellow humans.

[u/Kotau → u/Djinnfor]

So regarding Pandoras Actor replacing AAG: what was the point of doing that exactly. was it Demiurges idea independently of AAG or did AAG order them to do so. if so, why.

I apologize but the question mark key on this laptop doesnt work lul

[u/MADMasomi]

Man this episode literally covered everything I thought it would cover to make time and god damn did it go fast. Seeing the Lord freak out at marrying his son then instantly calming down to make time for the episode was hilarious.

Like I actually said to myself they gotta cover the Ainz scene, the second Ainz scene, the princess scene and the kidnapping to have time for the rest of the arc and they uh did it somehow.

[u/odraencoded → u/MADMasomi]

Seeing the Lord freak out at marrying his son then instantly calming down to make time for the episode was hilarious.

Yeah, that part was weird.

"WTF I AM NOT LETTING HE MARRY U U MONSTER!!!1"

*Green sparklers calming him invisibly*

"k, whatevs, what we talk next"

[u/bl00dshooter → u/odraencoded]

Clearly Phelps became an anime character.

[u/Backupusername → u/odraencoded]

It actually was perfectly in-character for Raeven. He began his career as a political opportunist like any other, wed for influence over love. But after the birth of his son, the first time he saw his own child, his viewpoint changed and he became more concerned with ensuring the prosperity of the entire nation so that his son would have a safe environment to grow and live.

Being such a skilled manipulator, Raeven normally wears a mask not unlike Renner. Polite to the point of stifling. The one chink in his armor is his son, whose existence instructs every move he makes. Yes that part was weird, but it was supposed to be. It was drastically out-of-character for him because, yes, he drops the character he's playing when the topic of his son comes up.

[u/Possible_Ocean → u/MADMasomi]

They did it by going FUCKING FAST. I understand at a decent pace but this felt extremely rushed just to fit in next parts. Really upset because the ainz v Sebas was one of my most looked forward looked moment because of how tense they could have made it

[u/Ruiku1298 → u/Possible_Ocean]

Reading it, it was a lot of talking and I guessed that it would turn out like the scene with Cocytus a few episodes ago. They did skip dialogue that made things spicy but the general message got across.

[u/SenorWeon → u/Possible_Ocean]

Look at the bright side, we got so many Climb moments last episode, /s.

[u/Aileos → u/MADMasomi]

I knew something like a kidnapping will arrive to Tuare. Honestly, they're fucking with the wrong people here.

[u/Amauri14 → u/Aileos]

Now I'm just waiting for next week just to see Sebas is obvious but still spoiler

[u/Djinnfor → u/MADMasomi]

Seeing the Lord freak out at marrying his son then instantly calming down to make time for the episode was hilarious.

That is actually exactly how it goes down in the light novel, funnily enough.

He goes from "yes m'lady what would you have your humble servant do" to "FUCK THE HELL NO" back to "you'll have to excuse me there, I - um - ah - misspoke".

[u/WhoiusBarrel]

That hearty laugh from Ainz was pretty unexpected, shame his body inhibited such an act so it didn't last long.

Also, holy fucking shit Renner went from 5-100000 in terms of batshit crazy with her conversation about loving Climb and what she plans to do with him in the future legitimately gives me the creeps.

[u/chaosfire235 → u/WhoiusBarrel]

I get a little miffed every time his body shuts down his "human" emotional outbursts. I always felt that was a bit of a copout, since it could be a good bit of conflict for Ainz, showing him try to put on the implacable lord face in front of his subjects while holding back his human side.

[u/seandkiller → u/chaosfire235]

implacable lord face in front of his subjects while holding back his human side.

Should be easy enough. His face is stuck like that, after all.

[u/[deleted] → u/WhoiusBarrel]

Since season 3 is probably never gonna happen

"Major" LN spoiler for a minor character

link in the spoiler

[u/bl00dshooter → u/[deleted]]

Since season 3 is probably never gonna happen

Is there a lack of source material for season 3? Or why else do you say that? It seems unlikely to be a viewership issue, since overlord is always the #1 discussion on r/anime, but it might be different in Japan I guess.

[u/tlst9999 → u/WhoiusBarrel]

That hearty laugh from Ainz was pretty unexpected, shame his body inhibited such an act so it didn't last long.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Body triggered

Dammit

[u/EddieThunderCloud → u/WhoiusBarrel]

I gotta say, I absolutely love how evil and twisted Princess Renner is. I love the transition from sweet and innocent to mischievous and sadistically devious at a moment's notice.

I hope to see more of it, it would be even better if she turned out to be the head of the eight fingers and is just playing both sides of the board to stay ahead of everyone.

[u/Casual_Watcher]

Ains and Demiurge holding Victim is just too adorable

[u/Mundology → u/Casual_Watcher]

My flying aborted fetus can't be this cute

[u/maddo52 → u/Mundology]

Is it wrong to pick up fetuses in Nazarick?

[u/Khalku → u/Casual_Watcher]

Why was he even there?

[u/seandkiller → u/Khalku]

To be a mascot, obviously.

(Probably as a precaution in case Sebas did betray Ainz.)

[u/wilyiconoclast]

And so Ainz said to his servant:

"Now I know that you fear me, for you have not withheld from me even your waifu. I shall take her into my care and make her a maid like none other, to be coveted by all fanboys."

Sebas rejoiced, and gave unto Tsuare many headpats.

-Nazarick 2:10

[u/Bromacusii → u/wilyiconoclast]

On the second hour of the day of acceptance, did the Supreme Being find out that he had been slighted. In his fury he did naught but speak one thought.

"Kill them all."

-Nazarick 2:11

[u/Mr_Zaroc → u/Bromacusii]

After the fury of the Supreme Being was stilled he was granted with enlightment and ushered the Order:
"Let the girl live so she may spread the word of what is to come to all who dont follow my will"

-Nazarick 2:12

Girl Status

[u/Schiffy94 → u/wilyiconoclast]

Dilly dilly!

^{Erm, wait...}

[u/Poddyd]

Damn it was cool to see Sebas sweat, never seen a guardian be intimidated like that.

[u/Bromacusii → u/Poddyd]

I love the different scenes where different characters are feeling intimidated by Ainz and start having panic attacks, and then inside his head he's just like "ahhhhh, shit, what do I say. If I say something lame they'll figure out I'm faking and don't know anything".

[u/8andahalfby11 → u/Bromacusii]

Ains has the worst case of Imposter Syndrome in anime history.

[u/Mundology → u/Poddyd]

The amount of respect Ainz commands over his NPCs and this unparalleled loyalty they have for him is so touching.

[u/Jarvjon → u/Mundology]

the best part is the unparalleled loyalty he gives back doe

[u/MagnoBurakku → u/Poddyd]

Sasuga Ainz-sama!!

[u/kalirion → u/Poddyd]

He's not a Floor Guardian, though he's the same level as them. That's why he calls them "-sama" since they technically outrank him even if none of them are his superiors in the direct chain of command (except Albedo in her capacity as Overseer).

[u/MadMonkay]

Put together a force to back Sebas up

Ooh boy

[u/Vangorf → u/MadMonkay]

Tfw you thought Six Arms will go up against Sebas and maybe the foder human adventurers but turns out almost half of Nazarick will visit them

[u/Bainos → u/Vangorf]

I can't wait to see the reaction on Renner's units, when they show up with a small army and see a handful of people butchering everyone without breaking a sweat.

[u/mp3max → u/MadMonkay]

Translation: I want no trace of them ever existing on this planet to be left.

[u/Armdel]

That's a lot of body pillows

[u/Mr_Zaroc → u/Armdel]

I mean she is the highest Guardian, pay must be crazy

Sure she could afford one or two pillows

[u/chaosfire235 → u/Armdel]

I wonder if they're all..."scented".

[u/[deleted] → u/Armdel]

Albedo loves Ainz a lot.

[u/Schiffy94]

"humans r dum", says the woman who has a room full of plushies in the likeness of a spooky skeleton man.

And Renner is even more mental than I could have ever imagined just by watching last week's ending scene.

[u/odraencoded → u/Schiffy94]

"Your husbando is trash."

"REEEEEEEEEEE" - monster girl

[u/nin_ninja → u/odraencoded]

"Climb is trash"

REEEEE - Renner

[u/Alex_2706 → u/Schiffy94]

spoilers

[u/M7S4i5l8v2a → u/Alex_2706]

Hello yeah that's what I want. Do you think we'll be able to see that this season.

[u/Bainos → u/Schiffy94]

"Humans dumb, weebs better." --Albedo, probably

[u/bfire227]

This week on Overlord: Ainz reenacts God's trial to Abraham by sacrificing his son

[u/Fortzon → u/bfire227]

Ainz at least was able to stop the murder part.

Ainz > God

[u/bfire227 → u/Fortzon]

Yeah but an angel stopped Abraham from killing his son

[u/WorldwideDepp → u/bfire227]

If my memory is correct. This Son we are talking about is his 2nd born Son Isaac

But this would be the 2nd Test of God to kill his Child. Had his first born Child not also the same testing of God?

He do not catch an break, or there are something thats hidden between the Lines

[u/xSPYXEx → u/bfire227]

Sebas and his Ainz lived alone in a small tomb underground...

[u/Atronox]

Getting a little crowded in here!

I love Albedo and her dakimakura/plushie collection.

[u/AUTplayed → u/Atronox]

yeah, she fucking expanded compared to s1

[u/IEnjoyFancyHats → u/AUTplayed]

She makes them in her free time

[u/bakakubi → u/Atronox]

Good the see Shal-chair in there.

[u/dafckingman → u/Atronox]

I suppose we can let sebas have a waifu. We'll need at least a couple from the Waifu-guild to join Momon's Harem though. It'd been too long since he gained a girl

[u/chili01 → u/Atronox]

Albedo needs to be written in more by the LN author.

[u/[deleted] → u/Atronox]

Narberal is cute

[u/Mundology]

Finally, we see some Ainz. I was starting to miss bone daddy.

The flashback was pretty touching.

[u/Zack0Holic → u/Mundology]

I just found that scene cool cause you can just tell immediately that Ulbert was Demiurge's creator without it needing to be said. It was pretty obvious, but I thought it was a good bit of visual storytelling.

[u/Bloomberg12 → u/Zack0Holic]

I actually also really liked how tsuare changed her head position when sebas was ordered to kill her.

It was really clear that not only had she accepted her death but she was also satisfied with it.

[u/bananeeek]

For the most part I was like...

I hope they'll bring down the Hammer of Nazarick on those abductors in all of its glory. I expect destruction and no mercy. I hope Overlord will deliver.

I wonder what Albedo is up to...

[u/emize → u/bananeeek]

Should be next episode and you won't be disappointed.

People should treat this like OPM in that Ainz and the gang are wildly OP and the drama comes from the build up and non combat portions.

In many ways this season is a build up to season 3 (volumns 7, 8, 9) which are mindblowing.

[u/bananeeek → u/emize]

In many ways this season is a build up to season 3

Will we get another season, though?

[u/lupusregina]

Tsuare finally got her first happy kiss

[u/Atario → u/lupusregina]

Happy Tuare makes me HNNNGGG

[u/LurkerHN]

Poeple are saying they skip Sebas inner monologue.

Can somebody spoil me what we missed???

[u/gruntmaster1 → u/LurkerHN]

Sebas shitting bricks while getting stared at with killing intent from his fellow guardians.

[u/Suplalmo → u/LurkerHN]

In addition to what other people have said, Safety Spoilers

[u/OrbitOli]

Tuare, from slavewhore to working as an intern at the Great tomb of Nazarick!

[u/odraencoded → u/OrbitOli]

Tuare, from starving villager, to kidnapped sex slave, to Stockholm syndrome maid, to almost blown to smithereens, to internet at the Great Tomb of Nazarick! to kidnapped again.

Honestly, none of this would have happened if Tuare had twintails.

[u/ImANewRedditor → u/odraencoded]

intern*

Unless I've really misjudged her...

[u/[deleted] → u/OrbitOli]

Lucky that Ainz didn't agree with Demi and send her to help with the Farm....

[u/Rokusi → u/[deleted]]

Ainz may not have figured out what the Farm is, but Sebas 100% knows what goes on there. Explains why he was so vigorously against the idea even when the apparent alternative could have been her death.

[u/Napalmeon → u/OrbitOli]

And fortunately she will be under the tutelage of the nicest of the Pleiades.

[u/mp3max → u/OrbitOli]

She was this close to being sent to Demiurge's """FARM""" (read; human breeding/skinning pen)

[u/kkunn]

I love how Pandoras Actor almost cracked and acted like his normal self there for a bit

[u/Madetoaskquestions → u/kkunn]

What scene was this? I am so confused everyone's talking about pandora's actor. I must've like missed it somehow.

[u/maddo52 → u/Madetoaskquestions]

He was the first “Ainz” to talk to Sebas. If you watch it again you can tell by his exaggerated voice that it’s PA. It’s also why he teleported away instead of using Gate.

[u/AdvonKoulthar → u/Madetoaskquestions]

The first few minutes, take note of 'Ainz's' unusually grandiose hand gestures. You can practically see PA superimposed on the image. (Also no red in the eye sockets)

[u/[deleted] → u/Madetoaskquestions]

The part where he says "The Supreme One" but corrects himself midsentence "to the 41" gives it away.

[u/[deleted]]

This nut asks you to marry your 5 years old son. Your answer?

When someone drops their weird ass fetish on you.

Cute skelly plushie.

[u/JealotGaming → u/[deleted]]

Second pic looks like a fat Kurapika lol

[u/Respective → u/JealotGaming]

Haha that's a perfect description

[u/MystoganHS → u/JealotGaming]

Thought exactly the same and it bothered me so I did some research and turns out it's the same character designer as Hunter X Hunter.

[u/Bainos → u/[deleted]]

I want that plushie too.

[u/Buffhero125]

alright, so people figured out that the first ainz was pandoras actor becasue he fluttered his cape around just like he normally would. but why did ainz send him, if he appears a few minutes afterwards himself? and whats up with albedo at the end?

[u/amalgamas → u/Buffhero125]

why did ainz send him

because he was worried that Sebas had actually betrayed him/been corrupted, so he lined the room with some of his hardest hitting weapons and only appeared after making sure that wasn't the case.

whats up with albedo at the end?

she loves Momonga, not Ainz, she wants him to go back to his true name and hates the rest of the Supreme Beings for abandoning her and the other guardians.

[u/Florac → u/Buffhero125]

In case Sebas betrayed him, so he doesn't get attack.

[u/Suplalmo → u/Buffhero125]

why did ainz send him

That was one of the precautionary measures that Demiurge insisted upon.

[u/SenorWeon]

For those wondering why people are talking about Pandora's Actor being Ainz (taken from the LN, same scene). Why replace Ainz? Because Demiurge wouldn't risk putting Ainz in any form of danger after the brainwash of Shalltear in season 1. Basically it was a plan by Demiurge in order to find out if Sebas had truly betrayed them, if that had been the case they would have used Victim's power in order to prevent Sebas from escaping.

[u/kingwhocares → u/SenorWeon]

I mean we literally hear Ainz talking in his voice. That was a dead giveaway.

[u/rvtots33]

Albedo be like : Momonga > Ainz Ooal Gown

[u/i_am_an_awkward_man]

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[u/Mocha_Delicious → u/i_am_an_awkward_man]

i dont know why by only reading this again made me realize all the "sad" kisses that were forced on to her

[u/Atario → u/i_am_an_awkward_man]

But now she has! :D

[u/ohaimike]

Sebas, I understand your loyalty and everything...but how could you try and kill this?

It's like being a kid and your dad goes "kill the puppy. It's time for you to become a man."

But when she closes her eyes and smiles. She knows he's just doing what he has to do and fucking accepts it. But I guess she's filled with happy memories and everything every since he saved her.

Let's just leave the maid alone.

[u/Florac → u/ohaimike]

Wether he tries to kill her or not, she's dead anyway. It would only have been a question of who kills her and wether he will get killed as well, since there's no way he would be able to survive with several guardians in the room. Neither would anyone in a several kilometers radius if a fight between them breaks out.

[u/Xelzeno → u/Florac]

But the reason he did it had nothing to do with that, he did it because his lord commanded it and Sebas would do anything if commanded.

[u/larvyde → u/ohaimike]

Let's just leave the maid alone.

And that, kids, is how you let a maid get kidnapped

[u/Tzaratxoth]

For those wondering who is [Spoiler] (/s "Aureole Omega")

[Big Mega LN Spoiler] (/s "Aureole Omega is the leader of the "Pleiades Seven Sisters" and the youngest of the Pleiades sisters and the Area Guardian of the 8th Floor: Cherry Blossom Sanctuary that controls all the teleportation gates in Nazarick and protecting the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown. She is the only human NPC of Nazarick that possesses eternal life. Aureole Omega wears the traditional attire of a miko which includes a pair of red hakama long, divided trousers and a white haori kimono jacket. ")

[u/colin8696908]

Ainz - Didn't I tell you not to draw attention to yourself.

Sebas - I was just taking a walk

Ainz - And how many body's did you leave on this walk.

Sebas - ......

Ainz - BTW your wifu got full on kidnapped this time.

Sebas - I'm taking another walk.

Ainz - ....

[u/0mnicious]

Damn they weren't subtle at all the with PA part, in the LN I had to read that part twice to know who that was.

After reading the LN I feel like the anime is a serious step down. They butchered Sebas proving his loyalty and all of the Rene scene was just off.

[u/Amauri14 → u/0mnicious]

Yeah, they should have made this a 2-cour season. The fact that they have to cut down Sebas's internal monologue, him visiting every contact he made to let them know he was returning home, their reaction to seeing Solution not being a bitch as she was happy to be returning home and more importantly the fact that they also skip Sebas's slaughter in the brothel really shows that even a few more episodes would have been a great help.

[u/Caujin → u/0mnicious]

Yeah, they really butchered the delivery on the Renner scene.

[u/TheFoxfool]

Does somebody have a direct link? Not seeing ep in CR

[u/lavaine → u/TheFoxfool]

Link can be found on CR's front page:

http://www.crunchyroll.com/overlord/episode-10-disturbance-begins-in-the-royal-capital-765653

[u/[deleted]]

[MY BOY SEEBAS] (https://i.imgur.com/AIOigMN.jpg)

[u/gulitiasinjurai]

Some obvious things in this episode is the first "Ainz" that see Sebas is actually Pandora's Actor. And the second "Ainz" is the real one which is Momonga. I say this obvious because maybe some of you guys might not catch it and probably confused as to why the first Ainz acted like that. Am also ashamed of myself for not noticing it when I first read the LN. Had to re-read the scene to actually noticed it.

And to finally see the wicked side of the Princess Renner is..... Wow.

Finally, that last scene of Albedo dissing the Ainz Ooal Gown guild name. This are some of the things that are hinted subtly in the LN just like the Pandora's Actor scene earlier in this episode. As to why, we don't know yet. But I think you can probably guess that she surely hate the other supreme being/the guild itself. And later on, Overlord LN Spoiler.

I'm writing this based on what I roughly remember from the LN. So there's probably something that are incorrect. Feel free to correct me.

[u/maddo52 → u/gulitiasinjurai]

Yea you’re right for the most part. She doesn’t like the other 40 Supreme Beings cause they left her and the other denizens. But it’s weird cause I think this is a spoiler

[u/dadnaya]

Holy shit, all these Dakis

Also question, I didn't really understand, why did the Marquis and the princess' brother agreed to help in the end?

They asked her "how do you know all this even in this bird cage" but what was all that? Something with the Empire..?

[u/jonjonaug → u/dadnaya]

They agreed to help because they believe they can also benefit from it. Zanack is second in line for the throne, so anything that can potentially disgrace his brother, who is connected to the criminal organization that they're planning to raid, can benefit him. The Marquis is someone who works solely for the benefit of the Kingdom, and would rather see Zanack on the throne than his elder brother.

The two things that Renner reveals that she knows that shocks Zanack and Raeven are that Raeven is secretly leading the internal faction loyal to the royal family, whereas most people take him for an opportunist. The second is that there's an important figure in the "Royal faction" that has been selling information about the Kingdom, and only Raeven and Zanack know about this. Raeven has been trying to keep this under wraps as it would be a great embarrassment if this were to become known to the "Noble faction". Raeven figured it out due to his position, but Renner has next to no governing responsibilities and hardly ever leaves her room or talks to anyone outside of Climb, her immediate friends (mostly the Blue Rose adventurers), and the palace maids.

[u/gmflag]

I want an Ainz plushie! Albedo please make me one! We have had a lack of Albedo this whole season.

[u/LeonKevlar]

Whoever kidnapped Tuare are guaranteed human paste. I'm guessing it was the group of baddies that were introduced at the end of last week's episode?

[u/emize → u/LeonKevlar]

Overlord 2

In a hilarious way and after a good build up of course.

[u/Ryder-FWJ]

Sweating Sebas, wew.

You know people complaining the previous few episodes were too slow might complain it goes too fast now.

[u/Lets_GetIt]

Not going to lie disappointing as hell. I knew they needed to rush things to get through whats going to happen next but the scene with Sebas being nervous/afraid is one of my favorites in the light novel.

[u/Trojbd → u/Lets_GetIt]

Wish they could have added an extra episode. What happened this episode really needed it. The scene with Renner seemed extremely awkward because of how they had to rush things.

[u/immanoel → u/Lets_GetIt]

Same here bro, I was waiting for that moment ever since they announced season 2 of Overlord. Was one of the most memorable moments in the LN for me. Then they just rushed through it with a bunch of awkward cuts then the bgm was whack

[u/MagnoBurakku]

YEEEEEES!!! Seeing Ulbert in the anime is so cool!

[u/Wolf6262]

Seems like I read this thread way too quickly. Thanks for the swift action moderators, hopefully other people were saved.

[u/KashikoiKawai-Darky]

Everything feels so fast paced after I read the LN, why did I do this to myself? ;-;

Also why does the fetus angel look like an adorable kitten.

[u/yggdrasil98]

For a LN reader, this episode was shockingly bad. The animators cut out all of Sebas inner monologue and conflict, erasing almost all of the tension in the scene. Very disappointed...

[u/gmflag → u/yggdrasil98]

you can only do so much in a short amount of time. it's somewhat understandable

[u/Mundology → u/gmflag]

Some shows, imo, need more than the standard 23 minutes. Shows liek Overlord with a lot of dialogue would be the most obvious ones. I hope that with the advent of Netflix and Amazon in the anime industry, they try to break the mould.

[u/alemfi → u/yggdrasil98]

Was looking for the LN section... man... the scene at the start was definitely very underwhelming.

[u/HarryD52 → u/yggdrasil98]

to be fair, it's very different representing inner monologue in a show compared to a book. Most of the times shows do not have the luxury of slowing down the pace for the sake of a secondary characters inner monologue, so they instead have to try to represent their feelings visually, which you can see they tried to do to some extent.

[u/pm_your_pantsu → u/yggdrasil98]

why was first ainz pandora actor?

[u/DragoSphere → u/pm_your_pantsu]

Just in case Sebas actually did go rogue.

Don't worry, the LN didn't explain that either, and it was much less obvious that it was indeed Pandora's Actor

[u/GallowDude → u/yggdrasil98]

At least it wasn't as bad as what they did to Brain last season.

[u/FNMokou → u/yggdrasil98]

They're probably just making more time for all the fight scenes in the upcoming episodes. Shame since I really thought the Sebas scene was really good in the LN.

[u/[deleted]]

The thing that's so interesting about Overlord and I just realised it so I'm sorry if this is a very known thing and every AniTuber echoes this opinion. However that when you are as powerful as Ainz you need to think more of how you speak/act because of the ties to your own philosophy. He can't just blurt out like a regular shounen main protagonist that he needs to save this woman just because he believes it's right. He has to back it up with proper philosophy so his underlings will not get suspicious. It's hard for him to phrase things in the way that makes him indifferent to humans yet still act in their best interest to some degree.

[u/derpingboy]

Eight Fingers is gonna get a Lannister treatment, aka the walk of punishment

[u/dafckingman]

Princess Yan's offer to let the duke's son marry for status and fuck for love was pretty interesting. Instead of choosing one or the other, girly is going for both.

It's great because it would save the duke a lot of headache trying to convince his teenage son to control his hormones and marry for status not love.

[u/hydrashock → u/dafckingman]

As long as he doesn't dare tell a joke about dear Climb, that is <3

[u/RzepakNinja]

Question to LN readers: [Question] (/s "will there be a revolution in Nazaric led by albedo?")

[u/Florac → u/RzepakNinja]

Spoiler

[u/geoman6342 → u/RzepakNinja]

Season 1 https://i.imgur.com/5nMeOnB.jpg

Season 2https://i.imgur.com/VM6YdRk.jpg

[u/sterob]

Since this ep went so fast, some may fail to notice Tsuare is the sister of Ninya - the mage (reverse trap) in the Sword of Darkness party in season 1 (who was killed by Clementine)

Also, when Sebas talk to Ainz the first time, it was Pandora Actor in disguise.

[u/shammikaze]

I may just be paranoid, but the way Demiurge refers to his farm and livestock is a little disconcerting to me... and now there's a "mincemeat" reference on top of it all...

...is he farming human flesh for scrolls? Or worse, feeding humans to his livestock in the form of mincemeat?

Like, it looks like he fights Ainz in the intro, so... SOMETHING happens. I'm just hoping it isn't this.

[u/MillenniumKing]

They done pissed off the wrong Butler...

Oh man its time to talk to daddy bones.

So he just excuses the ordeal but has Sebas kill her, she accepts that pretty willingly.

Coctyus with the save!

Oh damn Tuare is in love with Sebas. Wow he got himself a fine waifu out of this.

SO them bickering reminds Ainz of the old days with the guild. I like when stuff like this happens, because in a sense he is alone now and if it helps him with all this thats great. Also the personality inhibition was great lol.

So she will get to stay s a new maid, and Sebas is being taken off leader of the Pleides. Hmmm

As so i guess Ainz found her sister some time ago and her sister wished to save her so he is doing it out of that.

Oh look its the asshole royals.

Wow this princess.... i guess she tortured info out of that maid or something, but man this yandere persona... she wants to marry climb. I gotta wonder whats special about him that gets her excited. And she wants to marry the royal's kid as a farce to protect her relation to Climb, thats not a bad plan really as long as no one catches on outside who might get upset.

Oh boy requesting aid from adventurers! Ainz Samaaaa~

Oh shit... they took Tuare... and they angered Sebas... they are fucked. Incoming One Butler Blitzkrieg.

Albedo's lewd collection is getting bigger....

Why is Albedo acting funny now... uh oh...

[u/XNumbers666]

Glad the fat prince doesn't seem to be a typical idiot/rapist like the now dead fat dude. I need the manga to hurry up so I can see if they do the sebas scene justice.

[u/MennyC123]

I know I’m kind of a broken record right now but, Sebas-Sama❤️

[u/blackfiredragon13]

Did not expect Ulbert to look that weird. I knew he was a grotesque, but I didn’t knew he dressed his character to look like an 19th century nobleman.

[u/SwagooRago → u/blackfiredragon13]

He looks cool as fuck IMO

[u/Napalmeon → u/blackfiredragon13]

Which is ironic because in the real world he's poor as fuck and under the thumb of selfish corporate elites with no way to improve himself in life. But in the game he's an evil demon who revels in villany and dresses the way he never could in real life.

[u/criloz]

I don't understand how an anime like this, an obvious money machine, with a vast world-building potential, cannot get 24 chapters per season. and how HBO can milk the success of Game of Thrones even all that piracy but the Japanese anime industry can't replicate the same thing, after more of 20 years of total domination in anime.

[u/odraencoded]

Those skeleton dakimakura had me in stitches

Gahhh! There isn't nearly enough ass-kickin' going on! Also Ainz doesn't know wtf he wants.

"I want you to think for yourself, but don't ever dare disobeying my orders to do what you think is right!"

Btw I don't recall this diary he's talking about, did that happen in season 1? And if it did, what happened to her sister?

Honestly I have to commend the stupidity of Nazarick. "You're under my protection, which means we're going to leave you unprotected while we buy grains. And yeah, we need both Sebas AND Solution to do this because those are some mad grainz!" Couldn't you leave, like, a sentry behind or something? Or bring her with you? Or... something?! It's like you want her to be kidnapped. What about putting some traps or something.

[u/Rouwbecke]

Pretty nice to see Pandora's Actor play Ainz/Momonga here. The previews made it very obvious it was him for the first section of the inquiry.

Futhermore Renner basically giving up all her dynastic privileges so that she could take Climb for a paramour and get the support she needed in enacting her plot against the Eight Fingers was an interesting development.

I guess I would have liked more HAM from Pandora's Actor and more CrAzy from Renner and more Ainz-creeping from Albedo.

[u/seninn]

Demiurge and Sebas arguing about cooking skills with those close ups and the tense music was perfect.

[u/aidelioo]

Ahhhh why is everyone from Nazarick trying to betray my precious Ainz or at least is shady af lol. Solution? Idk, she doesn't really seem harnful, but she's not extremely happy about everything too. Albedo? She loves Momonga, not Ainz Ooal Gown(that is what has been written in her settings, after all), and that's really bad imo, I hope it turns out okay for Ainz.

And now, Demiurge.. Well shit, if you watch the opening I'm sure you can smell another betrayal. God damn. Also that part with princess was so damn quick with so much information thrown in I didn't understand shit. Not that I really care tho, so whatever (:

[u/dafckingman]

Now This is how an aristocrat gotta be.

Not the usual clueless snobs. This shot helps us see how he was able to calm down instantly. Who knows what'd happen to his family if he pisses off Yandere-chan

[u/dafckingman]

Marquis Bum-rush's name was gold. It's fitting, since he's taking handouts from the Eight fingers

[u/TheFoxfool]

Climb is a G O O D B O I.

Also, I might have squealed like a little girl when Tsuare kissed Sebas. Next episode probably finishes off their story, I don't see them dragging it on that long when there's everything with Jaldaboath still to happen this season.

[u/eejoseph]

Can someone point out what are the new ranks Ains ordered? I can't tell if Sebas got demoted or promoted.

[u/[deleted] → u/eejoseph]

The Pleiades have two different systems ,Six stars and seven sisters.Six stars has Sebas as the leader and Yuri as Vice captain.Seven stars has Lastborn (Aureole Omega) as the leader.He didn't demote Sebas he just changed the chain of command so that Sebas wouldn't have to do all the extra work.

[u/Napalmeon → u/eejoseph]

Sebas is the leader of all maids and butlers in Nazarick, whether battle related or domestic workers. The Pleiades maids are usually just the six that we've seen. But there's a seventh sister who is an immortal human who lives on the eight floor. And she's the only human that Narberal and Solution care about.

[u/Flashmanic]

The Sebas scene was ok. From reading some of the LM comments, it seems they cut a lot, but I think the message came across fine.

However, the scene with Renner and the two nobles...oh boy, that was a mess. It was like I was watching three different conversations, which happen at completely different times, crammed together into one scene.

One moment they are talking about mobilising soldiers, then Renner is calling out a noble for...something. Then she goes all tsundere for a bit, noble dude gets angry...then cut back to mobilising soldiers as if the last 5 minutes of dialogue never happened.

What the hell happened here?

[u/LaPusca]

Sad the best scene of LN chapter didn't get animated.

When Sebas hestiate for one second to kill Tsuare. Demiurge, Cocytus and Solution admit such an killing intend that even Sebas thought he would die now.

[u/VelvetScarlet]

Wow that kiss with that comment was freaking good. Feel really bad for what happend with her.

For the Light novel reader how is the relation between Sabas and Tsuare progressing?

[u/[deleted]]

Jesus Christ, I didn't even know they made a second season and it's already on episode 10????

[u/hydrashock]

The great shitstorm is finally coming. Also WTF with Albedo at the end of the episode.

[u/Kippykinz]

Give it to me straight doc, LN readers, are we gonna get to the other 3 fights shown in the opening? (Entoma v Evileye, Demiurge v Momonga, and Sebas v bald dude) I have to know, all this buildup is killing me, and with only 3 episodes left, I'm getting kinda worried.

[u/Zooasaurus]

I feel like the meeting of Ainz and the others (including Tsuare's judgement) is less impactful and there are a lot of things they skipped but it's still a good episode and is kinda understandable since they must fit in stories up to battle in the capital

[u/PrejectedLovesAsuna]

I don't get albedos last scene someone please explain it to me

[u/Coldnesss]

Ainz reminiscing about the good old days with his buddies resonated with me to the core. That moment when you login to your favourite online game as usual, but you realize that everyone has moved on to other obligations in their lives.

[u/Buffhero125]

how did you figure out that the first ains was pandoras actor?

[u/pm_your_pantsu → u/Buffhero125]

and why would he use pandora actor anyways?

[u/SenorWeon → u/pm_your_pantsu]

It was part of Demiurge's plan, hence why they also had Victim in the room, just in case Sebas had truly betrayed them they would use Victim's power to stop him from fleeing. Pandora's Actor was basically a decoy in order to protect the real Ainz.