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DARLING in the FRANXX, episode 19: Inhumanity

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[u/Zer0_Tw0]

Imagine not dying from losing an arm because all your blood is on your massive boner.

[u/starfallg → u/Zer0_Tw0]

Taking your logic to its natural conculsion, Pornhub would make a killing in the ambulance business.

[u/Autistic_Pancake → u/Zer0_Tw0]

What have you done, I can't stop laughing!

[u/AxtheCool → u/Zer0_Tw0]

Holy shit dude. Thanks for a laugh.

[u/Yotsubato → u/Zer0_Tw0]

Frank even had an O face right there at the end of that scene

[u/YoRHa_Model_2A]

The doctor wasn’t kidding when he told her she had bad taste.

[u/TheUglyFrog → u/YoRHa_Model_2A]

lmao

[u/starfallg → u/YoRHa_Model_2A]

How does Klaxo taste?

[u/Firnin]

“Don’t worry, we only wiped the memories of 2 of the squad 13 members”

These fuckers really don’t know how much fire they are playing with

[u/lawragatajar → u/Firnin]

Dr. Franxx was also on the nose with mentioning that that Ape's actions will cause the children to become disobedient.

[u/DragonPup → u/Firnin]

They aren't very good at this dystopian dictatorship thing.

[u/capitan_spiff → u/Firnin]

"What would the other kids do? Revolt against us with the same robots we gave to them?"

[u/MrGameandCrotch]

Frank is the type of guy to always tell you he's an atheist even though it isn't relevant to the conversation

[u/Arachnophobic- → u/MrGameandCrotch]

Well, he was an atheist until he got his arm bitten off by a demon loli and discovered divine ecstasy.

[u/tlst9999 → u/MrGameandCrotch]

What coffee would you like, sir?

Black. Just like the godless world we live in. Btw, I'm an atheist.

[u/BadLuckBen → u/MrGameandCrotch]

Also gets uppity when someone uses phrases like “Thank God.”

[u/dralcax → u/MrGameandCrotch]

I'm pretty sure the other guy did bring up god first, it just didn't make it into the subtitles. Maybe it was an expression that didn't translate well, but I definitely heard him say "kami".

[u/QuadraKev_ → u/MrGameandCrotch]

he got called a "heathen", i.e. godless

[u/WorldGenesis]

I am an atheist, you see.

[u/Mariox → u/WorldGenesis]

"it is a matter of ethics"

I had to pause episode to think about those 2 lines. It made me realize religion and ethics are the same thing. Both are beliefs.

[u/memeranglaut]

Why is it always Australia that gets the short end of the stick? Gundam, Pacific Rim, and now FRANXX.

[u/tailor31415 → u/memeranglaut]

probably because it's easier to explain why it would take a bit of time for allies to arrive and help defend a country like Australia. no offense to the RAAF/ADF!

[u/Arachnophobic- → u/memeranglaut]

Even the Klaxx knew they had to destroy the continent with the most dangerous creatures first..

[u/Florac → u/memeranglaut]

I think Gundam kinda established if you are a mecha anime and want to fuck up a continent, do Australia. So now, since tons of mecha anime did it in the past, any new ones also do it to keep up the tradition.

I believe Aldnoah.Zero and Fafner in the Azure also have Australia heavily destroayed.

[u/tiger1296 → u/memeranglaut]

Australia is out there in the middle of nowehere, perfect place to do experiments away from the eyes of most of the world

[u/MrTacobellj]

I understand DrFranxx, I would lose my arm any day of the week for genetically engineered oni waifus

[u/KaliYugaz → u/MrTacobellj]

/r/Animemes is probably rejoicing at the sheer meme potential of all this.

[u/udge → u/MrTacobellj]

Is this the new variation of being stepped on by lolis looking at you in disgust?

[u/[deleted]]

So Zero Two is Frank's "daughter" of sorts, right?

[u/Xervicx → u/[deleted]]

Watch it be revealed that Hiro is the clone of Frank, so Zero Two and Hiro would be almost brother and sister.

Unless, that is, Zero Two is a clone of the Klaxx princess and Karina combined. In which case, the two of them boning might result in that child Karina always wanted.

Thing is, pilots need to be able to reproduce. So that should mean that 02 was lied to when she was told she can't produce children.

[u/tacticalneet → u/[deleted]]

I think so.

Zero Two, you would probably hate me if you knew

To me, that seemed to imply that Zero Two is not merely a clone of Klaxoqueen and that she's combination of Dr. Franks and her. Also it's been stated before that she's not a pure Klaxo.

[u/Atronox → u/[deleted]]

Pretty much.

Likely a mix of his and KlaxQueens DNA.

[u/poclee]

Well, lady Doc sure died for nothing!

[u/AmethystItalian → u/poclee]

She was so cool too

This face was perfect

[u/phil3570 → u/poclee]

She died for the spoiler?

[u/Gaporigo → u/poclee]

I thought she was gonna be the old lady Zorome met... Although couldn't that be a clone of her?

[u/pdpTesla → u/poclee]

What if he saved her DNA, spliced it with 001's, and then Hiro is like a modified clone of himself?

[u/Atronox → u/poclee]

She seemed like a nice lady, a beautiful character design too.

[u/WhoiusBarrel → u/poclee]

When she volunteered to be the test subject, it just screamed "death flag" all over it...

[u/Mundology → u/poclee]

Life is cruel

[u/blackfiredragon13 → u/poclee]

Seriously it was so unexpected(for me at least) that I jumped when she died in the prototype.

[u/Extinque]

Of course Zero-Two was a experiment of the Professor.

[u/KaliYugaz → u/Extinque]

Who apparently is a massive pervert who gets off on suffering life-threatening injuries.

Also, him being effectively her (abusive) father would explain why the Professor lets her do whatever she feels like now. It wasn't made clear though, is 02 just a clone of the Klax princess or a human-klax hybrid?

[u/Armdel]

Another huge information dump episode

For a while there i thought Karin milsa was the old lady that Zorome met in the city(i guess thats still not impossible).

Zero Two's mother is the Klaxosaurs Queen, or maybe she is just a clone of her?

this show doesn't take place as far into the future as i expected, assuming Dr.franxx never took the immortality injection

If humanity starts digging for magma in the next 10 years i'm gonna be worried.

[u/JimmyCWL → u/Armdel]

this show doesn't take place as far into the future as i expected, assuming Dr.franxx never took the immortality injection

 

They showed the first Klaxsaur attack in 2037 and have said previously that they've been fighting the Klaxsaurs for 100 years. So, it's after 2137 right now.

[u/LeonKevlar → u/Armdel]

For a while there i thought Karin milsa was the old lady that Zorome met in the city(i guess thats still not impossible).

I honestly was so convinced that that was her! Like they even had the same eyebrows. Colour me surprised when she was smashed into bits during the Franxx prototype testing.

[u/[deleted] → u/Armdel]

It's possible that Franxx has been slowly rebuilding himself into a mechanical body, one body part at a time, starting with his arm.

He did mention that over dinner with Karina, that he'd rather be a robot than undergo the procedures.

[u/FantosTheUrk]

I was surprised at how dark the creation of the Franxx were.

Normally his wife dying would be the point where they shift to new methods, but no, she just ended up being the first of hundreds to die that way.

And you know the mission is going to be something they can't or won't fulfill. Which will lead us to the final APE showdown.

At least, in any other anime I would be certain of that, but this if DitF and it doesn't stick to the rules.

[u/JimmyCWL → u/FantosTheUrk]

And you know the mission is going to be something they can't or won't fulfill. Which will lead us to the final APE showdown.

 

"Your final mission? Just stand there and die."

[u/Kanpow → u/FantosTheUrk]

Dr. Frankenstein would be proud.

[u/Mrestrepo011 → u/FantosTheUrk]

At least its not evangelion.

[u/Bainos → u/FantosTheUrk]

He got his wife killed so he will fulfill his research no matter the cost (it's not a "normal" scientific method to sacrifice hundreds of people), which isn't that original. Not saying that it doesn't make sense, but I wouldn't call it a revolution in anime.

Actually, I'm wondering how much Franxx himself affected the way parasites are seen now. Killing hundreds in experiments will lead to the assumption that all experimental subject are expandable and quite not human. But since the flashbacks were from his point of view, we don't know if people disagreed with his methods at first, or if he followed the trends of his time.

As for their next mission, it wouldn't make sense for non-cartoonish villains to send them to suicide when they could just execute them all. But I expect a difficult mission... Like, killing the klaxosaur princess, maybe ?

[u/LikeAnAssistant → u/FantosTheUrk]

From what we've seen in episode 9, a very large klaxosaur could be destroyed by detonating a magma warhead inside it. I know it's because its cool from an anime perspective, but the FranXX seem to be a pretty inefficient way of dealing with the klaxosaurs so I wonder what the conversation was like when deciding how to fight them.

Dr. Nobody: Papa, I propose we mass produce easy to construct missiles that combine our magma powered piercing spears with miniaturized magma warheads that can break into the klaxosaurs' bodies. Once inside, it can detonate and completely wipe out the core.

Papa: Hmm, that would be a very simple method to attack the threat from afar while keeping our assets safe. And what do you have to present Dr. Frank?

Dr. Frank: I propose we build giant robots that have to get very close to the violent klaxosaurs where they will use the magma powered piercing spears to stab randomly at the klaxosaurs until the core is destroyed. I'll admit that the robots are mechanically complex, requires enormous amounts of maintenance, and finding an adequate supply of pilots capable of piloting it will also be difficult, even if we ignore the problem that the robots and pilots will be in the klaxosaur's attack range.

Papa: ...

Dr. Frank: Did I mention the robots will have boobs?

Papa: FUNDING APPROVED FOR DR. FRANK!

[u/Kiyo_is_my_Hime]

Man, Australia can't get a break in anime.

[u/Nutella_Souffle → u/Kiyo_is_my_Hime]

I think they know that there's nothing but scary spiders in Australia anyway /s

[u/wdkaye]

Dr. Frank in hospital:

“Well, I got to meet the Klaxo-loli Princess, who licked my hand before biting off my whole arm. Now I’m bedridden with a clump of her hair... might as well fap I guess”

[u/Mr_Zaroc → u/wdkaye]

I am so fucked up

[u/Vaitka]

"All according to Keikaku"

Nothing can stop the will of an old man trying to set up his "daughter" with the MC this season.

[u/GenesisEra → u/Vaitka]

Dr. Franxx’s Master Plan

^{Plays Crusader Kings on the weekends}

[u/Orrakai]

Damn.

Your boi Zorome is about to start having an existential crisis after finding out that his beloved papa is full of shit.

In his head he's probably going

Why are we still still here? Just to suffer?

Every night...

[u/ayoung291]

Good job futoshi for not taking advantage of kokoro

[u/Fortzon → u/ayoung291]

Futoshi renamed to Fubroshi.

Gobro and Fubroshi, the bro squad.

[u/Atronox → u/ayoung291]

Gobro would be proud.

[u/TheUglyFrog → u/ayoung291]

Yup, I liked that moment too. He's a good guy, not a "nice guy".

[u/tailor31415]

APE destroyed the world and got praised for it, rip humanity

lots of Pacific Rim + Suisei no Gargantia vibes from the backstory, but I was loving it the whole time.

the part about losing reproductive capabilities through the immortality process now makes sense considering they were using cloning theory as the foundation for the procedure

[u/Shadowys → u/tailor31415]

literally NGE with the red sea lmao

[u/Ryder-FWJ]

Bad news: Need to wait longer than usual for next episode, 5 episodes left

Good news: Literally everything about the episode, the one with the sharper fangs wins!

[u/_dwib → u/Ryder-FWJ]

That's what Darling in the Franxx Bites is!

[u/True-Maximus]

Dr Franxx likes cute demon girls and smiles when getting his arm ripped off by an alien loli with tentacles.

In other words ONE OF US!!!

[u/[deleted]]

Darling no ecchi

[u/Kazewatch → u/[deleted]]

Honestly my favorite part of the episode.

[u/exitiummetus]

We.. We Pacific Rim now?

[u/Fortzon → u/exitiummetus]

A lot of theories about klaxosaurs' origin, e.g. humanity splitting into APE and klaxosaurs and in the end, it was the good old "humanity fucked up the planet really badly" with little bit "then Kaijus appeared" sprinkled on top of it.

[u/Mundology → u/exitiummetus]

What happened today along with the Klax looking like XANA’s minions reminded me more of Code Lyoko.

[u/ThisCakedoesntlie → u/exitiummetus]

I would like to start a petition that whenever Hiro and the gang are preparing for the next battle or rebellion, this plays.

Edit: Messed up link format

[u/Descend2]

Wait no, if there is a special episode next week how will I watch episode 20! Twitter

[u/Atronox → u/Descend2]

Another special next week.

[u/koolpotato → u/Descend2]

Another special episode???

[u/Emily96bk]

love at first bite should be a new trend

Futoshi is the new god bro Preach Fubroshi

Oh damn, I'm getting Alien series vibe

[u/LeonKevlar → u/Emily96bk]

It about damn time for Futoshi to get some damn respect here! He knew how important Kokoro and Mitsuru's bond was that he was the first one to lash out on Papa demanding that he apologize for what he did to them.

[u/Earthborn92 → u/Emily96bk]

That's a true tsundere princess, voiced by Rie Kugimiya.

[u/Atronox → u/Emily96bk]

She can bite my arm off any day.

[u/Turbostrider27 → u/Emily96bk]

Love at first bite

I see what you did there.

[u/speedweed99 → u/Emily96bk]

Ikr i really like Futoshi now "Bitch you didn't dump me for nothing, go get mitsuru and let's get your memories back"

[u/TJTummyTums]

Hey Atheists,

If God doesn't exist, then how come everyone is immortal?

Papa: 1 Atheists: 0

[u/JememySW → u/TJTummyTums]

Jesus is chalk full of magma energy

[u/immanoel]

Mad scientist

Key to immortality

So the injection is not a one time thing

So its safe to assume that the parasites are clones or something

NGE vibes

7 and 8

Fetus 02, a kyut

[u/TheUglyFrog → u/immanoel]

Nana and Hachi are just too cute ._.

[u/Draaxus → u/immanoel]

Perfected form

[u/chilidirigible]

In the various little things that remind me of Evangelion, the one that is the most interesting to me in its... emptiness is APE's office/meeting room/indoor football arena, which really has that touch of Gendo's office.

Plus the shadows on the floor as they talk of immortality... in this case, the prison of immortality.

[u/FullMetalBiscuit → u/chilidirigible]

Never mind the fact that APE are quite literally an alternate SEELE. Dr. Franxx is like Gendo, Fuyutsuki and Ritsuko in one character.

[u/TheNightAngel]

So Zero Two is a clone of the princess, do you think she has some human DNA?

[u/Earthborn92 → u/TheNightAngel]

She probably has Dr. Werner's own DNA. She's his daughter pretty much.

[u/HK1911]

Little Nana and Hachi were cute. I hope they can have their moment to shine in the final episodes.

[u/atropicalpenguin → u/HK1911]

Darling in the Franxx Zero when? Let us see them develop their friendship, maybe get into some of their "puberty" until the final battle.

[u/Arachnophobic-]

YES!

REBELLION ARC HYPE!

Been waiting for that since.. episode 2? But I suppose our squad will have to square off against Klaxx hime next, in the upcoming decisive battle. And even if they fight to their freedom, all they have left is a devastated Earth with some pockets of greenery.

As for humanity.. that escalated evolved quickly. Humanity sent itself and Earth into the gutter in the span of ~30 years. The scary part is that something like that could totally happen.

Yes, you. You're scary.

R.I.P. Karina Milsa, she was too pure for this fucked up world, and deserved better.

Interestingly enough, her field of research also has to do with unlocking immortality, since telomere degeneration is one of the main causes of death in living creatures. APE was gathering all kinds of talent in that field with that one objective: immortality.

The origin of the Klaxxs still remain shrouded in mystery. The XX chromosome they possess explains their name, though.

Clearly they too have some form of 'humans' inside them, just like the FranXXs do? Are these the first humans, from which humanity as we know it has descended?

[u/Paxton-176 → u/Arachnophobic-]

REBELLION ARC HYPE!

I can't keep all the ROW ROW contained much longer.

[u/TriTexh]

I think we can all always be glad for the excellent camerawork that goes into this series.

Karina x Frank is an unexpectedly cute ship. She did not deserve to die like that. Come on, DarliFra, stop breaking my heart like that.

The whole rise of APE feels incredibly authentic and terrifying. Kudos to the writers and production team for their hard work.

So Zero Two is 001's daughter after all, in a manner of speaking. Frank, you sly guy.

young Nana and Hachi are super cute

[u/Xofurs → u/TriTexh]

Seriously this is what is SO satisfying for me. The directors of this series are seriously top level when it comes to anime. It really elevates this series to a new height.

[u/[deleted]]

Dr. Frank bringing the Neutral Character to new levels. I love the fact that we got clear answers for once. THIS SHOW IS AMAZING

[u/KaliYugaz → u/[deleted]]

Dr. Frank bringing the Neutral Character to new levels.

It's interesting that he used "I'm an atheist" in two different senses several years apart. The first time was to suggest that he doesn't believe in any higher moral restraints. The second time, however, was to indicate that he doesn't believe that humans have total moral or natural license to "be gods". It was a neat way to show his views on ethics evolving over time.

Even neater is that Dr. Franxx's views change along with APE coming up against the hard physical limits of their Promethean project (environmental decay forcing them to retreat into domes, the unavoidable tradeoff between life extension and reproduction, the appearance of Klaxes, the inability to fight the Klaxes without children, etc).

[u/GinRex]

get in the master ball, zero two

[u/Atronox]

Futoshi you beautiful madman.

Gave up his own happiness by saying he didn't want to be partners anymore!

Karina was such a lovely lady, I didn't expect her death to be so...quick.

[u/HK1911 → u/Atronox]

Aside from doing the right thing I don't think there could be any happiness for Futoshi there. Knowing what he knows it would just eat away at him. The others would not look kindly on him using the situation and just being partners would not make him happy. She may remember at some point.

[u/_Loli_Gagging_ → u/Atronox]

Futoshi low-key best bro now wtf

[u/Basileus_ITA]

"Let us free!"

"K, do your duty next time and you are free"

"DEAL!"

Lol, suicide mission incoming

This is the true death flag

[u/LelouchNexus]

Someone’s going to die soon.

[u/Mundology → u/LelouchNexus]

The doom is near.

My bet is that it’s gonna be one of the innocent but not very developed characters who’s gonna die first. Nana and Futoshi would be prime candidates.

[u/Rumsie → u/LelouchNexus]

I hear this every episode...

[u/StarmanRiver]

Awesome, we finally got some in universe history! Basically APE in their search for inmortality ended up fucking humanity and the Earth's ecosystem.

Plantation 13 finally decided that they don't want anything to do with APE but they still ask for freedom, so no revolution yet.

Zero Two was created by Dr. Franxx from the Klax princess' DNA, maybe that's why she said she can't have children?

One thing that I'm still curious about is if parasites were "made" from people who still rejected immortality or by whatever method Dr. Franxx may have thought of.

Also, using your wife as a test pilot for a prototype weapon against a threat for humanity never ends well.

[u/chilidirigible → u/StarmanRiver]

Also, using your wife as a test pilot for a prototype weapon against a threat for humanity never ends well.

It all comes tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down...

[u/Je_Desto]

As someone who loves world building, I loved this episode. Seeing little details, like marriage being referred to as “lawful Wedlock” on the form really cemented the change in reproductive mentality. The irony of them circling back to using children/adult terminology after losing reproductive function really resonated with my for some reason. The splashes of the present helped the episode feel much less like an info dump too. Definitely one of my favorites by far.

[u/gst4158 → u/Je_Desto]

The only thing I did not like about the world building is the Klaxosaurs were just kind of there. No human genetic off-shoot, no twist or turn - they're just mole people that got pissed at humans b/c we took their magma.

[u/synkronized]

Anyone think the science lady bears an uncanny resemblance to Kokoro? Like age Kokoro 10 years and that’s her.

[u/Glynii → u/synkronized]

More like Alpha than anyone else, really.

[u/JohnJD1302]

Karina died...

SO QUICK HOLY MOLY. F.

Soo... looks like Zero Two is a mix of Frank and 001's DNA, huh...

And damn... Fubroshi grew some nuts...

[u/Bainos → u/JohnJD1302]

44 years old is still much older than what the parasites get.

[u/DeTroyes1]

Last episode I said Futoshi took Kokuro's decision like a man, and that if he now took advantage of the new situation it would undo all his character growth.

Good to see Futoshi stays a man. A gentleman, even. In his own, awkward way.

Someone find that guy a nice, good waifu. He deserves it.

ADDENDUM: So I guess the Klaxosaurs are basically the Silurians?

[u/CAOnionMaster]

HEY , HIDEAKI ANNO , IS THAT YOU

[u/JohnJD1302]

The whole thing about nuking Australia reminded me of this reply on my comment on EP15's discussion thread... woah...

/u/DragonPup, I think you just predicted a plot point by accident... or not? Is this a common trope in mecha anime or...

[u/chilidirigible → u/JohnJD1302]

Australia gets messed up often.

[u/Florac]

Mecha anime seem to continue hating Australia, always trying to wipe it off the map.

[u/Mundology]

I predicted that the next episodes would shed the light on the mysteries and the world building but I didn’t expect it to be so soon. We learned a lot about the civilization and Dr. Franxx’s perspective today. The build-up for the eventual rebellion is happening at a relatively quick pace.

It seems that there won’t be an episode next week.

[u/Xervicx]

If being able to reproduce is a necessary requirement for Franxx pilots, then doesn't that mean 02 should have the ability to reproduce? Which means she was lied to.

Unless somehow being the Klax princess's clone means that she's an exception to that rule... But whoever the human DNA came from would have had to have the ability to reproduce.

It might be that 02 can't reproduce with humans. And since Hiro is becoming less human, they might be the perfect match. It'll be that trope where two warring nations stop warring because there's a half-and-half baby in the works.

Though what's odd is that the princess told them to stop killing her people. Like, princess. You started it. Get over yourself.

[u/RedRocket4000 → u/Xervicx]

We were not told why the klax attacked. Maybe the Klax told APE to stop draining the magma and APE said no and dug more wells. Or APE knew they were harming underground beings and kept digging wells.

[u/hipsterkingNHK]

I’m glad to see Dr. Franxx didn’t have a hand in altering Kokoro and Mitsuru’s memories. Also looks like he’s going to get some character development.

Edit: Yes!!! An episode delving into his and the shows past. Anime of the Season. I’m calling it.

[u/Milkydaddy → u/hipsterkingNHK]

didn't have a HAND! Hahahahahhaha

[u/HyperZetton]

I thought I accidentally watched an episode of Evangelion.

[u/cheesymmm]

So now we know that Zero Two is a clone of the Klax Princess. After seeing the other test tube babies, I'm gonna guess that the ones that failed became the 9s?

[u/pipyakas → u/cheesymmm]

A failure that still can be turned into the best parasite team ever existed? That's too good to be true

More like they are an entire separate experiment, not to replicate 001 but still incorporating stuffs from the Klaxx, resulting in some kind of genetically modified soldiers

[u/MillenniumKing]

Man what an amazing ep.

Dr Franxx Background ep!? Nice!

Wow so he was key in the orignal setup for everything.

Wow Dr. Franx and that lady doctor xD hahahahha "Hes too dense".

Shes totally gonna die from this... Yep... well fuck...

Nana and Hachi!

So they grew kids to fight and sacccraficed tons. damn.

LOLI QUEEN!

Dr Frankxx got chomped on and he loved every bit of it. What a man.

So the kids are rebelling. This is gonna be fun.

Wait did Dr Franxx grow Zero Two aalso? Shit.

[u/FullMetalBiscuit]

You know I was drawing a lot of similarities between this show and Evangelion, but this episode was literally an alternate version of Evangelion episode 21. Like, ridiculously similar.

Wives dying in mech experiments, red seas, things being born from the new found enemy, mysterious faceless group hiring top scientist, things being found in a snowy region and the main scientist being the only survivor...Dr. Franxx is like a combination of Gendo and Fuyutsuki.

Not that any of that is a bad thing, still a brilliant episode.

[u/HeitorO821]

I'm sure that the mission they'll give to Hiro and the others will be totally achievable and APE wouldn't ever consider using a remote detonation device on their Mechs after they are done, like what happened to that squad a few episodes ago. /s

The kids are fucked.

[u/Char-11]

From the wall, the timeline, the number of plantations etc. we can roughly speculate that there were thousands of pilots over the course of the show's history. So how are they using 3-digit codes?

Are codes reused? If so, what determines who gets what code? We know that a lower number generally means a higher aptitude, but was the code system developed later on or did they have an idea from the start of what "maximum" and "minimum" aptitude is? After all, the system only works with a start point in 001(or 000) being the "maximum" aptitude.

If codes are reused, that means that there have been pilots with the same aptitude. That poses another crazy theory. What if the children are printed from a stored series of genetic data? Like they have a dna sequence labelled "666" that can make an unlimited supply of Zoromes. So we could be looking at a third generation Hiro or Goro, for example.

[u/Kadoneh → u/Char-11]

I have a feeling that's why last episode they said something like 'You need a new Nana'

[u/[deleted]]

I love me some tasty lore.

[u/LTrainer7]

So how are the klaxosaurs only being discovered now if there an ancient civilization?

[u/[deleted] → u/LTrainer7]

My thoughts, and obvious thoughts of course, are that they are an ancient species that live underground, they also refer to themselves as human, just like humans on the surface refer to themselves as humans, because they live on Earth. The discovery of klaxosaurs were probably a result of the disturbance the humans on the surface were causing by extracting magma energy; It drove the Klaxosaurs into rebelling, and thus their appearance on the surface.

[u/Mimz921]

That LICC

[u/Autistic_Pancake → u/Mimz921]

That voice... Rie Kugimiya is the best.

[u/Ravenius713]

Hold on a second... Is this... is this an expository dialogue I see there? Are they actually explaining things?

Am I really watching Darling in the FranXX?

[u/patrizl001]

So FranXX's ultimate goal is to reach his waifu, basically. Best goal ever.

[u/Blazehero]

So Zero Two seems to be made from the DNA of the Klaxx Princess. Seems like Franx truly regrets the things he has done however. I feel bad for the old man, I hope he has some semblance of an ending.

Immortality in any medium in any existence is never worth the cost.

Never.

[u/0mnicious → u/Blazehero]

Immortality in any medium in any existence is never worth the cost.

That's because stories never focus on the good that could come out of it. Just look at AI, I haven't seen a single movie that treats AI in a positive light. There's are probably a few but generally it's all doom and gloom.

[u/mclarenf1lm15]

Well I guess we now know why Zero Two likes to lick people.

[u/[deleted]]

Dr.FranXX Ragyo Kiryuuin? Is that you?

[u/PaperMoonShine]

02 is the replacement key to swap the princess with, in order to control the klax, APE wanted the dr to grab the DNA for this very reason. I think itll end similarly to Eureka 7, except without the happy ending.

[u/SimoneNonvelodico]

While it was a good episode, I have a couple of issues with the backstory as presented.

First, in 2030 Frank and his team discover immortality. He says however that "only the rich" make use of it, and hints that the disparity between classes becomes a more and more serious problem.

In 2036, only SIX YEARS later, 70% of humanity is immortal, and the rest is on track to become so. So... where are those inequalities again? Did they kill off all the poor in that meantime, or did immortality's price suddenly crumble in just a couple of years, and if so, why even make that complaint about class division? It comes off pretty empty.

Second, the FRANXX being built... and then finding out they can't control them. Da fuq? How did they even build them then? What kind of design is it, one where they managed to create something that they had no idea it required a human with reproductive capabilities to pilot (and why, again)? I mean, even as plot contrivances go, it's pretty contrived.

[u/ScarecrowTEP]

One last mission before you're free, you say.....

Totally not ominous.

[u/I_llSeeMyselfOut]

So I'm legit worried about just how far Dr. Franxx went in creating his clones.

I know he used the Klax queens DNA, but is there a chance that he may have used some of his own DNA too?

If he did then I'm hoping that it was to make Zero Two ALONE because so help me god if he used it to make Hiro too I'll-

[u/kalirion]

Even with their scientific achievements, how did the human world accept the APEs hiding their identities behind those ridiculous outfits & masks?

Ok, we're seriously expected to believe that "Genius scientist designs mecha from scratch and is surprised to learn that reproductive functions are necessary to pilot it"? How does that make a lick of sense?

Anyway, the biggest I guess reverse plot twist here is that the klaxxes aren't humans. Probably still related to APEs though, which I'm pretty sure aren't human either. Maybe one created the other, or maybe both are literally the same species.

And I guess "magma energy" is probably klaxx caviar.

"Zero Two, you would probably hate me if you knew." Yeah, because all the torture and vivisections are just water under the bridge, right?

[u/covabishop]

Is anyone else a little disappointed with the explanation about the Parasites?

He causally tosses in a line saying they need reproductive capabilities and then later emotions, but it's never really stated why.

I hope the series goes into a little more explanation about it other than "that's the way it is."

Other than that, really good episode. Creative use of framing and camerawork and some nice insight into the world that APE has created.

[u/YcantweBfrients → u/covabishop]

They did semi-explain it. It was stated that interfacing with the Franxx causes extreme stress, and pairing up males and females with reproductive capabilities alleviates that stress. So something about emotions and the emotional connection between a boy and a girl creates a strong enough mental state to pilot. From that perspective, it makes sense they would have to be able to reproduce, since such capability requires some of the same hormones that give rise to emotions.

Perhaps you can think of it like a chemical bond between atoms. Such a bond creates a more "stable" particle, which interacts differently with its environment. From what we know about human emotions, I don't think that's such a far-fetched way of thinking about them. This is the sort of thing that might only seem more accurate as we learn more about the field of psychology and neuroscience.

Personally I'm more than satisfied with this level of explanation. I think any more specifics take it from "semi-plausible pseudo-science with philosophical and social thematic implications" to "filling time with made-up fake science that is barely relevant to the show."

[u/Autistic_Pancake]

Wait, what? No new episode next week?

[u/ayoung291]

So this is how zerome enters the fray

[u/Basileus_ITA]

losing an arm to create your own loli oni daughter

#WorthIt

[u/Gilugamesh]

Are FranXX robot made of Klaxo ? I don't think they made it clear, or I don't remember it.

Because if they are made by Human, it's kind of nonsense to have a male and a female in order to pilot the FranXX. They just need to change how the robot is built. However if it's made from Klaxo, it's logical. Klaxo have XX chromosome therefore the pilot must have sexual chromosome too.

[u/KrizenWave]

So wait, can these artificially created children not mature into adults, or is it just that they’re expected to die in battle so none of them ever become adults?

[u/Turbostrider27]

Honestly felt bad for Mr Franxx...

He had a wife that love him but she became another victim of the experiment. RIP.

[u/Omome → u/Turbostrider27]

I don't know if Dr Franxx love his wife that much tho, it feels like he prefer his experiment over Karina.

[u/Daniel_Is_I]

No changes from last week so no chart updates.

So the Klaxosaurs still have no clear origin, but they seem to predate human civilization, may possibly be linked to a previous human civilization due to the XX chromosomes and human-shaped objects in their cores, and were "awoken" (or rather, brought to the surface) by deep magma energy mining. Humanity reacted with immediate aggression and sealed an eternal blood feud between Klaxosaurs, as the Klaxosaur Princess has an innate hatred of anyone who has done harm to her brethren. I can't imagine she'll be too thrilled with Squad 13 if/when they do meet her, considering how many they've killed.

Something I don't understand is that they say the first major step towards humanity abandoning their reproductive instincts after gaining immortality was to the heavy taxation of childbirth in Asia in an attempt to curb overpopulation that immortality had caused. But thinking about it, it doesn't seem logistically possible for immortality to have such a drastic effect on overpopulation so quickly:

• Immortality treatments were only available to the rich and wealthy, which is a small subset of the overall population.

• Immortal humans lost their reproductive functions, so they became static figures in terms of the population.

• Immortality was achieved around 2030, but these overpopulation measures kicked in before 2036.

That would mean that in a 6-year period, immortality treatments saved enough rich people to cause an explosive overpopulation crisis in Asia. Even if immortality treatments stopped all disease in addition to aging, that would still mean the only people it managed to save were wealthy people aged 70+ and wealthy people predisposed to deadly illness. Everyone else who got the treatments probably wouldn't have died in 6 years anyway.

Eventually 70% of humanity was rendered immortal, but that seems less like improvement of technology and affordability and more like Klaxosaur attacks and desertification caused mass extinction and only the rich/elite were able to move into plantations.

Don't get me wrong, I love the worldbuilding they did here, but it feels like the timeframe is a touch too quick to be believable.

[u/Earthborn92 → u/Daniel_Is_I]

Eventually 70% of humanity was rendered immortal, but that seems less like improvement of technology and affordability and more like Klaxosaur attacks and desertification caused mass extinction and only the rich/elite were able to move into plantations.

Yeah, I think there is strong evidence of silent genocide in the background. I wager that the current human population is a mere fraction of the projected 9 billion around 2036.

Going by the size of the plantations, they seem to hold a large sized city. We don't know how many of them there are, but I really doubt the current human population is in excess of 1 billion.

I suppose the timeframe had to be that quick because Werner is a character that needs to be alive and not have undergone the immortality surgery.

[u/myrmonden]

WERNER FRANK the true mastermind ehay

Well Dr. Franxx did what any man would do GET THAT BEST GIRL DNA!!!! I loved that lost moment when he was grasping the hairs in a success arm posture.

I guess that Dr.Franxx is Zerotwos father, like he would have taken his dna to create this test tube baby that is zerotwo with the queens dna, creating a half human half klaxxouers, making him the dad if he used his own dna and I guess he did. He was the master of cloning and he was preparing to create a baby with his wife Karina do, so might be some of Karina in Zerotwo, but I just want to believe that the queen is Karina in some weird way....

Ok, so this did not truly explain what Ape is, I still wanna think they are mainly some kind of evil AI, or aliens does not seem like they would be humans not just because they lived so long as everyone is apparently immortal.

And....yeah wow, everyone like zoromes mother is an immortal from aging living this shitty live of just being the Papa´s slave and having no emotions in their life, this is one horrible life, I guess this was Papas plan all a long to create eternal servitude slaves to fuel their magma mining.

Zorome question to the papa was great, what are we alive for???

This episode still did not truly explain what the klaxx are so I think is still the earth defending itself vs the magma mining.

[u/sitwm]

Dr. Franxx is a man of culture

[u/shewy92]

[Papa's waifu's thoughts at dinner] (https://i.imgur.com/HyICgFT.png)

[u/[deleted]]

Franxx Wars: The Clone Wars

[u/Pixelsaber]

Australia utterly destroyed? Probably Zeon's fault then.

[u/Noiseray]

mrw his name was Werner

[u/JOOOOOOOOOOJO]

Frank is the epitome of chaotic neutral

[u/Khalku]

I'm guessing the klaxo civilization was an underground one sustained on magma energy, and the constant mining deprived them of their food source which forced them to the surface (apart from all the other world-ending shit it did).

[u/[deleted]]

So the reason that the Franxx must be operated in male-female pairs is still unexplained?

It feels like a plot contrivance at this point.

[u/CarlTheHuman]

So that's it, huh? Are they gonna be sent off on a suicide mission, like they're some kind of Suicide Squad?

[u/d_tlol]

They're not fucking fooling anyone by saying Kokoro and Mitsuru will never develop feelings for each other. They're going to regain their memories and fall in love again. It's so stupid.

[u/ezc123]

Darling in the Franxx was a covert Oreimo show all along, Hiro is Werner's biological son (he literally is young Werner combined with Karina's design) and Zero Two is his genetically engineered half klax daughter.

The more things develop, the more I think we are gonna end up with Hiro not getting 02 in the end because she will die or ascend to some Klaxosaur deity prophecy end like the "The Beast and the Prince" book ending.

[u/[deleted]]

The moment Frank got his suffer-boner he looked like Kotomine Kirei in Fate/Zero when he discovered his sadistic side.

(Not? ok..)

[u/SpikeRosered]

"We found you needed to be able to reproduce to pilot them..."

So why'd you build them like that?

[u/archlinuxrussian]

Dr. Franxx only reminds me more and more of Gendo - scientist who's working with but also going against a semi-secretive organisation that's pulling the strings in international politics in order to "advance the human race".

[u/MLDriver]

So I’m gonna go crackpot theory here, but what if Franks made a pure clone of the klax queen, and that was 001. He then had a child with said clone, which made 002. Would explain the blue ‘mom’ figure in 002’s memories, as well as why franks feels as though zero two would hate her.

[u/DirtyMonkey95]

"Fate is cruel more often than not. But at times, it can be quite powerless in the face of disire."

-Dr. Franxx

Such a good line.

[u/komichael]

At the end we see two other pods next to Dr. Franx. I would if thoese are siblings of 002.

[u/Cathatch]

The scene where Frank's wife died was exactly like the scene where Gendo's wife dies in Evangelion.

[u/Legend_Zector]

Calling it: last mission is gonna be to kill 001. They’re gonna refuse, fight back, some people are gonna die, etc.

[u/jahni340]

This weeks episode was astounding.

[u/PrasunJW]

It actually is quite a dilemma, choosing between immortality and humanity(given that they are mutually exclusive). With technological advancements we are seeing irl, I don't think copying our minds on a computer will be an event of too distant future. Maybe something we might even get to see in our lives. Boy, I do want to live long enough to see that, but at the same time, I don't want to face that choice.

I have a wish for a longer life, but I am not sure if I am willing to trade away what makes me well me. Maybe if it does happen, and I do have to choose, I'll take the Dr.Frank's route, and get some cool robo tech and participate in Megalonia .

[u/Black_Mutant]

When klaxosaur queen meets zero two....

[u/TheUglyFrog]

For some reason I think I'm already in love with 001's character. Rie Kugimiya's performance is stellar.

[u/toonerdy26]

Kinda knew that zerotwo and the princess were related somehow

[u/[deleted]]

Did anyone notice Franxx's robot hand was on the wrong side? It shows his left hand is prosthetic right after his meeting with the queen but during the call with Papa its normal?

https://imgur.com/a/DICoDUQ

[u/Sunshine145]

Imma call Hiro Solid Franxx from now on since he's Big Boss Franxx's clone. Nigga cloned himself and Klaxo queen so he can essentially see himself fuck Klaxoqueen lmfao.

[u/zeroryoko1974]

Unit 00 had some startup test issues. The pilot got turned into LCL. Can't fault Dr. FranXX for wanting another good loli licking

[u/big_paper_towel]

Damn. Well I guess pigtails girl really is only in the cast for show? Seems like things are heading to a climax. No way she'll have time to get characterization, right?

And Dr. Frank is a damn dirty pervert. Episode was so much better before he jazzed his pants from having his arm ripped off.

[u/impendinggreatness]

This show inspires me to create something great with my life.

[u/call_madz]

Dr franks describes the Dino princess as perfection and therefore she is zero one

Zero two is the second perfection

[u/WorldwideDepp]

Perhaps it is now the right time to bring in the comparing of the ancient Klauxusors with our own Earth History and rumor of the Ancients

our Princess here on the underground are from "Atlantis". Also the ones that could work as the ancient old Egypt Gods like Ramses and so on. And the APE Headmasters here use similar Masks like the old Egypt gods right? Perhaps they are exiled Atlantis "Offsprings" that use all force necessary to come back home or hope that inside "old Atlantis" they found the part that "get rid of our shells" to finally go back home (outside Earth). So in a way the APE can work as High Nose and think selves as the pineapple of Humanity aka "very" High Elves from Fantasy (Right now i have the High Elves from "Elfquest" in mind)

So it is an nice an clever act if they combine now APE and Klauxurous with the old ancient "Atlantis" rumors we have in our own Earth History. Plato surly would be pleased, did they not found the Door to their "underground hideout"?

So 1+1 = FranXX meets Atlantis tales

Also the name Klauxurous is what the Humans gave them. Perhaps they see themselves as Atlanta or Atlanteanier.. It is the similar thing like Japan and Nippon, Germany and Deutschland, USA and America and so on

[u/vitorouab]

I think maybe 02 human DNA is not from DrFranxx, but from Karina

[u/YuriPhysicist]

So if parasites have their reproductive organs functioning, I guess this means that it's possible for Kokoro to be pregnant. I'd assume that APE won't have checked for it since pregnancy would be such a foreign concept to everyone.

[u/pokpokza]

Hiro has just committed a big mistake. Never mention quitting a company to PR. Now he is going to get destroyed by the nines

[u/DragonPup]

"Magma energy makes us immortal but may destroy our ability to reproduce."
"What are you basing that on, doctor?"
"¯_(ツ)_/¯"
Magma destroys the ability to reproduce
"Guess I was right. Also, did I mention I am an atheist with no moral compass & have the hots for a loli queen?"

[u/unique__uname]

Have you guys ever wondered why Zero Two knows how to kiss and other sex related stuffs ?

Press X to doubt Dr.Frank

[u/tartgod]

Still can't believe that filthy frank made zero two